。。。清末来华的传教士良莠不齐，其中肯定有专心做好事的，但要说他们全是善良如天使，教案全是诬陷他们的就搞笑了。近百年来教会各类针对儿童的组织，比如孤儿院，技术学校，改宗学校，聋哑学校虐待，性侵，谋杀寄宿幼儿的丑闻层出不穷，大多是被掩盖过去了，因为他们下手的对象基本都是孤儿，聋哑残废儿童，和极端贫困家庭的儿童，近些年才有针对性的调查，比如爱尔兰的The Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse (CICA)， 英格兰的The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA)， 这些调查因为存活的人有限，案例只是冰山一角。懒得看报道的我把结论摘过来一些。另外现在大热的原住民学校挖出幼童尸体这种事情并不是很稀奇，magdalene laundries技术学校查查呗，乱葬坑里挖出150多个女孩子尸体, 不过当然啦，对某些人来讲，这些只会发生在西方，到了中国的传教士一定都是中国人的守护者LOL，就算是西方学校里，那些被挖出来的幼儿都是死亡率的牺牲者，那年代孩童死亡率就是高🤷♀️，这么辩护的人是把自己代入了校方的角色？那倒是可以理解🤮 港真的清末教案里面针对幼童的指控低于一半是虚拟的我都不信，对孤立无援的幼儿掌握着绝对的控制，可以激发出人渣心中最大的恶🤷♀️ The commission's report was published on 20 May 2009 in five volumes with an executive summary containing 43 conclusions and 20 recommendations. Conclusions Conclusions included: Overall. Physical and emotional abuse and neglect were features of the institutions. Sexual abuse occurred in many of them, particularly boys' institutions. Schools were run in a severe, regimented manner that imposed unreasonable and oppressive discipline on children and even on staff. Physical abuse. The Reformatory and Industrial Schools depended on rigid control by means of severe corporal punishment and the fear of such punishment. A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions and all those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from. Sexual abuse. Sexual abuse was endemic in boys' institutions. The schools investigated revealed a substantial level of sexual abuse of boys in care that extended over a range from improper touching and fondling to rape with violence. Perpetrators of abuse were able to operate undetected for long periods at the core of institutions. When confronted with evidence of sexual abuse, the response of the religious authorities was to transfer the offender to another location where, in many instances, he was free to abuse again. The safety of children in general was not a consideration. The situation in girls' institutions was different. Although girls were subjected to predatory sexual abuse by male employees or visitors or in outside placements, sexual abuse was not systemic in girls' schools. Neglect. Poor standards of physical care were reported by most male and female complainants. Children were frequently hungry and food was inadequate, inedible and badly prepared in many schools. Accommodation was cold, spartan and bleak. Sanitary provision was primitive in most boys' schools and general hygiene facilities were poor. Emotional abuse. Witnesses spoke of being belittled and ridiculed on a daily basis. Private matters such as bodily functions and personal hygiene were used as opportunities for degradation and humiliation. Personal and family denigration was widespread. There was constant criticism and verbal abuse and children were told they were worthless. Supervision by the Department of Education. The system of inspection by the Department was fundamentally flawed and incapable of being effective. Complaints by parents and others made to the Department were not properly investigated. The Department did not apply the standards in the rules and their own guidelines when investigating complaints, but sought to protect and defend the religious Congregations and the schools. The Department dealt inadequately with complaints about sexual abuse, which were generally dismissed or ignored.
清末民初天主教-育婴堂杀婴是义和团运动起因重要原因。
前几年，“育婴堂杀婴”被公知们美化为“救助中国孤儿的慈善事业”，反对“育婴堂杀婴”的义和团被公知们丑化为愚昧无知野蛮。
反观今天披露的加拿大土著种族灭绝，
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杀婴， 特别是女婴， 也极其常见。
你知不知道茶和咖啡传到欧洲的时候他们连干净水都喝不上，小孩子从小就给喝酒，残的死的也很多，这也就是这一两百年还在发生的事儿。感觉哪儿哪儿小孩儿都活的不容易。
清末明初????????
是不是故事会里的啊，我被故事会一个恐怖故事吓着过
老毛死前死後的narrative不一樣，現在又要折回去了？ 30年河東30年河西，老祖宗可能也是來回折。lol
文革期间著名的恐怖小人书 一块银元，花车上的女孩是主人公的姐姐，地主用一块银元买去给地主婆殉葬的
对，楼主历史一塌糊涂，先是写清末明初，被发现以后现在又改成清末民初。天津教案是同治年间的事情，义和团那会儿还没影子呢，和民国更是没半点关系，就是强行为洗而洗。
文革小人书，这里看 https://m.lhh1.com/files/wg/221.html
洋鬼子吃饱了杀小孩啊，基督教在中国大多数坏事是依附教会的本地流氓无产者干的，他们本来就是奔着好处去的。强烈建议大家看看历史上真实的六福客栈的故事，这样的修女才是主流
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/73147290
楼主， 大清早亡了，后清倒是还在， 咒语差不多接着用
神助拳、义和团，只因鬼子闹中原。劝奉教、自信天，不信神佛忘祖先。男不伦、女行奸，鬼孩俱是子母产。如不信、仔细观，鬼子眼珠皆发蓝。天无雨、地焦旱，全是教堂遮住天。神发怒、仙发怨，一同下山把道传。非是邪、非白莲，口念咒语法真言。升黄表、敬香煙，请来各洞诸神仙。仙出洞、神下山，附着人体把拳玩。兵法艺、都学全，平定鬼子不费难。拆铁道、拔线杆，紧急毁坏火轮船。大法国、心胆寒，英美德俄尽消然。洋鬼子、尽除完，大清一统靖江山。
原来是假的啊。。。我竟然信了。。惭愧
可能育婴堂很多，条件差别也大 小时候我妈一个老同事是育婴堂长大的，她后来念了大学当医生， 乍一看对于她这种孤儿育婴堂有再造之功 但是她说是当年小娃都死差不多了，她是个独苗，十几岁时候成了好几个修女围她转 她工作后供养好几个修女，轮着到她家住
不过话说回来 为什么轮子说共产党活摘器官就有人信 为什么共产党或者清政府whoever 说教会杀小孩轮子们就直接急着说没这回事？
说得太好了！她们说不过我就自己开楼洗地。割乳房、割阴唇、割头皮、杀婴儿轮奸虐杀印第安部落的白人杀人犯的华人老婆，站在法庭上代表起我们印第安部落受害人家属向杀人犯表达原谅、崇拜，还举出了其他变态杀人狂来洗白真的太扭曲了。这些外嫁白人的华人大妈没有一滴印第安血统，凭什么代表我们部落表达原谅？自封印第安的“人大代表”？外嫁白人的华人大妈敢不敢跑到亚美尼亚代表亚美尼亚人原谅土耳其一百万大屠杀？外嫁白人华人大妈敢不敢跑到911白人受害者家里代表她们原谅本拉登？外嫁白人大妈敢不敢跑到以色列代表犹太人原谅纳粹？原谅哈马斯火箭弹干死的人？外嫁白人大妈敢不敢跑到哈马斯地盘代表哈马斯原谅以色列军警击杀的人？没有一滴印第安血液凭什么代表我们外嫁印第安大妈原谅？怎么不跑到南京说我代表南京大。屠杀受试者原谅了！代表731人体试验受害者原谅了！你们老公的祖宗割我们祖先乳房、割阴唇、轮奸虐杀孕妇之后把婴儿刨出来虐杀，现在你还把我们代表上了？这就是无耻无赖无情无义无道无德无法无天，荒诞荒谬荒唐荒淫。四荒八无。楼主根本没权利代表印第安人。另外这些川粉大妈别一个个对墨西哥人喊滚出去，你们没资格。墨西哥人没有像你们老公的祖先一样割乳房、割阴唇、轮奸孕妇然后把婴儿挖出来！
非常喜欢听他的这一期
当年传教士在沿海地区建立了很多当地的第一家医院，和妇女婴儿救助体系。 我在80年代偶然接触过18线小镇教堂，才发现当地的医院的两幢老楼，其实是教堂房产，教堂里的修女是来去自由，当地居民里信教的非常多。 多睁开眼看看历史课本外面的历史吧
冠县百日无孩，100年之后政府主导的杀婴，壮哉！
中国人有个认知上的习惯，就是被自己人搞死再怎么残酷也无所谓，所以这些人放着49年以后的种种恶行无所谓，党的艰难探索，反正死的不是他们家人，这是中国人最搞笑得地方
中国政府不否定义和团，有着很强的现实意义。 需要保留傻逼的火种，万一哪天用得上呢
袁腾飞的经典！
啥受人恩惠当涌泉相报，文革破四旧破的不就是这个吗？现在理解为啥破了吗？不破很多国内的逻辑就讲不通了啊。
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這是本能吧 跟政府作對不是找死麼 全宇宙最大的黑手黨，土匪出身！
清末民初那个时候， 很多天主教堂买即将死亡的婴儿， 然后给他们受洗， 成为上帝的子民。 这是事实。
器官说法共党自己承认的啊。打击周永康的罪名之一就是器官，你仔细翻翻。估计共党怕某日被翻出来，预先推到周一人头上，打个伏笔。
港真的清末教案里面针对幼童的指控低于一半是虚拟的我都不信，对孤立无援的幼儿掌握着绝对的控制，可以激发出人渣心中最大的恶🤷♀️
The commission's report was published on 20 May 2009 in five volumes with an executive summary containing 43 conclusions and 20 recommendations. Conclusions
Conclusions included: Overall. Physical and emotional abuse and neglect were features of the institutions. Sexual abuse occurred in many of them, particularly boys' institutions. Schools were run in a severe, regimented manner that imposed unreasonable and oppressive discipline on children and even on staff.
Physical abuse. The Reformatory and Industrial Schools depended on rigid control by means of severe corporal punishment and the fear of such punishment. A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions and all those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from.
Sexual abuse. Sexual abuse was endemic in boys' institutions. The schools investigated revealed a substantial level of sexual abuse of boys in care that extended over a range from improper touching and fondling to rape with violence. Perpetrators of abuse were able to operate undetected for long periods at the core of institutions. When confronted with evidence of sexual abuse, the response of the religious authorities was to transfer the offender to another location where, in many instances, he was free to abuse again. The safety of children in general was not a consideration. The situation in girls' institutions was different. Although girls were subjected to predatory sexual abuse by male employees or visitors or in outside placements, sexual abuse was not systemic in girls' schools.
Neglect. Poor standards of physical care were reported by most male and female complainants. Children were frequently hungry and food was inadequate, inedible and badly prepared in many schools. Accommodation was cold, spartan and bleak. Sanitary provision was primitive in most boys' schools and general hygiene facilities were poor.
Emotional abuse. Witnesses spoke of being belittled and ridiculed on a daily basis. Private matters such as bodily functions and personal hygiene were used as opportunities for degradation and humiliation. Personal and family denigration was widespread. There was constant criticism and verbal abuse and children were told they were worthless.
Supervision by the Department of Education. The system of inspection by the Department was fundamentally flawed and incapable of being effective. Complaints by parents and others made to the Department were not properly investigated. The Department did not apply the standards in the rules and their own guidelines when investigating complaints, but sought to protect and defend the religious Congregations and the schools. The Department dealt inadequately with complaints about sexual abuse, which were generally dismissed or ignored.
在加速师包帝带领下，100年前的拳民们又回来啦lol
刺耳的说一句，这类人和义和团其实是超越了时空的一类人，就是信奉的换了对象罢了，义和团信奉的是洋人都是坏的，要杀要害中国人的，这类信奉的是西方人都是好的，说他们不好都是造谣的或者恨西方的或者是五毛的神马乱七八糟的，这类人在人口中占有相当数量，又被当权者纵容的话，义和团啦文革啦发生是必然的🤷♀️
你这个就跟考试拿10分和90分的比较甩锅都没有到100分都有改进空间一样 属于搅浑水标准套路。
我们不要说100多年前如何。就提二十多年前的事，中国人大量遗弃女婴在孤儿院，不少都被欧美人花高价收养了-要付给中国政府一大笔钱。当然欧美人不是天使，不过跟遗弃女婴的中国畜生们，和不会去收养残疾女婴的普通中国人比，那不知道高尚到哪里去了。
在中国的天主教的育婴院本身收养的就是孤儿，这些小孩即使在医疗和营养过硬的现代也是少儿早夭率很高的群体。
育婴院这种模式其实并不太好，但是义和团根本就没有拿出什么证据证明育音堂有任何故意或者放纵杀婴的行为。
话说中国这种八九十年代还有生了女婴直接溺死的鬼地方，还有资格批评孤儿院？
加拿大的事情先让子弹飞一会，不急。
我的妈呀你也看过这个呀 我的童年阴影 比一双绣花鞋还瘆人
记得袁腾飞在一个节目里说过，因为科举制度，中国没有独立知识分子，深以为然。都是学成文武艺，货卖帝王家，所以没有基于人性的反思，都是研究帝王之术
由加拿大原住民寄宿学校联想近代育婴堂 - 知乎 (zhihu.com)
知乎是中共媒体。
谢谢
扯淡，一看就是无毛。我奶奶小时候连年战乱，时时闹土匪，她一个十几岁的小姑娘就是躲到教堂里逃过了劫难，可以说没有教堂就没有我们一大家子几十个子孙后代。
还是袁腾飞的精彩！👍！
以前邻居老奶奶也是育音堂长大的，挺好的
楼主的观点未必合理，但这和中国有没有资格批评孤儿院有啥关系？就算中国没有资格，楼主就也没资格？在您眼里，大家是受中国的资格限制参加华人网辩论大赛么？还是您觉得说啥事，只要把中国黑一把您就爽？
旧社会农村女婴生下来很多直接丢马桶淹死的
这不是废话，没有恩惠谁会自愿侍奉上帝？
楼主的观点有他的问题。 您说的您自家的事也很有意义。
但您最后一句有点画蛇添足了吧？您（家）受了恩惠，为啥来这儿跟别人说：“你要记得，你要承认，这些点点滴滴。更不能去泼脏水”？
好像看过一本小人书。吓人