The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19’s Origins Throughout 2020, the notion that the novel coronavirus leaked from a lab was off-limits. Those who dared to push for transparency say toxic politics and hidden agendas kept us in the dark. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins 2019年9月，病毒数据库下线的时间，和武汉同期应对新冠病毒感染者的演练，纯属巧合？ They paid one visit to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they met with Shi Zhengli, as recounted in an annex to the mission report. One obvious demand would have been access to the WIV’s database of some 22,000 virus samples and sequences, which had been taken offline. At an event convened by a London organization on March 10, Daszak was asked whether the group had made such a request. He said there was no need: Shi Zhengli had stated that the WIV took down the database due to hacking attempts during the pandemic. “Absolutely reasonable,” Daszak said. “And we did not ask to see the data…. As you know, a lot of this work has been conducted with EcoHealth Alliance…. We do basically know what’s in those databases. There is no evidence of viruses closer to SARS-CoV-2 than RaTG13 in those databases, simple as that.” In fact, the database had been taken offline on September 12, 2019, three months before the official start of the pandemic, a detail uncovered by Gilles Demaneuf and two of his DRASTIC colleagues. June 6, 2021 更新 我把最近一个月以来围绕新冠病毒溯源的主要事件按时间线总结了一下，欢迎大家评论补充 May 5: Former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, writing in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reviews the evidence and makes a strong case for the lab-leak theory. He focuses in particular on the furin cleavage site, which increases viral infectivity for human cells. His analysis yields this quote from David Baltimore, a virologist and former president of the California Institute of Technology: “When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of the virus. These features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2.” https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ May 7: James Freeman, Assistant editor, editorial page, The Wall Street Journal became the first reporter of a major news outlet challenging the intertwined relationship among China, Fauci and Origins of COVID https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-fauci-and-the-origins-of-covid-11620419989 May 11: During a Senate hearing on the pandemic response, Paul alleged that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) had been sending funding to the Wuhan lab, which then "juiced up" a virus that was originally found in bats to create a super virus that can infect human cells. Paul pressed Fauci on the theory that the novel coronavirus was created in the Wuhan lab, and then somehow escaped, either because of an accident or because it was deliberately released. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/552857-rand-paul-clashes-with-fauci-over-coronavirus-origins May 14: Eighteen prominent scientists publish a letter in the journal Science, saying a new investigation is needed because “theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable.” One signer is Ralph Baric, a virologist who worked closely with Shi. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1 May 17: Another former New York Times science reporter, Donald G. McNeil Jr., posts on Medium: “How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Lab-Leak Theory.” He quotes W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University — who had signed the March 2020 letter in Nature Medicine — as saying his mind had changed in light of new information. https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d May 23: WSJ published an exclusive news piece which reports three researchers from China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care, according to a previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report that could add weight to growing calls for a fuller probe of whether the Covid-19 virus may have escaped from the laboratory. https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228 May 24: Anthony Fauci, apparently “changed” his mind, admitted earlier this month that he is no longer convinced that the Covid-19 pandemic originated naturally. Same day, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the 23rd commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said the growing number of reports provide an increasing amount of circumstantial evidence supporting the theory that the virus could have escaped from a lab. https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/24/politics/fauci-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.htmlhttps://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/24/gottlieb-says-theres-growing-circumstantial-evidence-that-covid-may-have-originated-in-a-lab.html May 26: President Biden ordered the Intelligence Community to redouble their efforts to collect and analyze information that could bring us closer to a definitive conclusion, and to report back in 90 days. Same day, The Editorial Board of WSJ endorsed the credibility of The Virus Lab Theory https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/05/26/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-the-investigation-into-the-origins-of-covid-19/https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-virus-lab-theorys-new-credibility-11622066808 June 2: Uncovered Emails Show Fauci’s deep involvement in Gain of Function research https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf June 3: Vanity Fair published a nearly 12,000-word article by award-winning journalist Katherine Eban; it''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s much worth reading on the bottom line question of whether COVID-19 indeed stemmed from a lab leak. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins June 6: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-wuhan-origins-60-minutes-2021-06-06/#apphttps://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184 系统提示：若遇到视频无法播放请点击下方链接 https://www.youtube.com/embed/znisx0wQMGA
七国集团峰会联合公报就溯源调查的声明： Strengthening transparency and accountability, including reiterating our commitment to the full implementation of, and improved compliance with, the International Health Regulations 2005. This includes investigating, reporting and responding to outbreaks of unknown origin. We also call for a timely, transparent, expert-led, and science- based WHO-convened Phase 2 COVID-19 Origins study including, as recommended by the experts’ report, in China.
The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19’s Origins Throughout 2020, the notion that the novel coronavirus leaked from a lab was off-limits. Those who dared to push for transparency say toxic politics and hidden agendas kept us in the dark. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins 2019年9月，病毒数据库下线的时间，和武汉同期应对新冠病毒感染者的演练，纯属巧合？ They paid one visit to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they met with Shi Zhengli, as recounted in an annex to the mission report. One obvious demand would have been access to the WIV’s database of some 22,000 virus samples and sequences, which had been taken offline. At an event convened by a London organization on March 10, Daszak was asked whether the group had made such a request. He said there was no need: Shi Zhengli had stated that the WIV took down the database due to hacking attempts during the pandemic. “Absolutely reasonable,” Daszak said. “And we did not ask to see the data…. As you know, a lot of this work has been conducted with EcoHealth Alliance…. We do basically know what’s in those databases. There is no evidence of viruses closer to SARS-CoV-2 than RaTG13 in those databases, simple as that.” In fact, the database had been taken offline on September 12, 2019, three months before the official start of the pandemic, a detail uncovered by Gilles Demaneuf and two of his DRASTIC colleagues. Shang_Ri_La 发表于 2021-06-05 13:52
so the potential leak might happen before 09/2019???
这是言论自由和新闻自由对公民社会和事实真相无比重要的佐证！ A months long Vanity Fair investigation, interviews with more than 40 people, and a review of hundreds of pages of U.S. government documents, including internal memos, meeting minutes, and email correspondence, found that conflicts of interest, stemming in part from large government grants supporting controversial virology research, hampered the U.S. investigation into COVID-19’s origin at every step.
"Under scrutiny from governments including her own, with bizarre conspiracy theories and legitimate doubts swirling around her, she began lashing out at critics. “The 2019 novel coronavirus is a punishment from nature for humanity’s uncivilized habits,” she wrote in a February 2 post on WeChat, a popular social media app in China. “I, Shi Zhengli, guarantee on my life that it has nothing to do with our lab. May I offer some advice to those people who believe and spread bad media rumors: shut your dirty mouths.”" 石正丽以生命担保新冠病毒跟她的实验室没有关系，但是武毒所还有很多其他的实验室，所以这个声明并没有为武毒所撇清干系。
"Under scrutiny from governments including her own, with bizarre conspiracy theories and legitimate doubts swirling around her, she began lashing out at critics. “The 2019 novel coronavirus is a punishment from nature for humanity’s uncivilized habits,” she wrote in a February 2 post on WeChat, a popular social media app in China. “I, Shi Zhengli, guarantee on my life that it has nothing to do with our lab. May I offer some advice to those people who believe and spread bad media rumors: shut your dirty mouths.”" 石正丽以生命担保新冠病毒跟她的实验室没有关系，但是武毒所还有很多其他的实验室，所以这个声明并没有为武毒所撇清干系。 fopen 发表于 2021-06-06 03:25
仅这第一项，就值得注意：“石正丽曾表示，由于疫情大流行期间的黑客攻击，武汉病毒所WIV 删除了数据库。 事实上，该数据库已于 2019 年 9 月 12 日，即疫情大流行正式开始前三个月下线” 石正丽所说与事实对照，表明了什么？ 两点： 1。表明在中国公布大流行之前至少三个月病毒就开始传播了。2。病毒源头来自于武汉病毒所。 Shi Zhengli had stated that the WIV took down the database due to hacking attempts during the pandemic. In fact, the database had been taken offline on September 12, 2019, three months before the official start of the pandemic.
The Lab-Leak Theory: Inside the Fight to Uncover COVID-19’s Origins Throughout 2020, the notion that the novel coronavirus leaked from a lab was off-limits. Those who dared to push for transparency say toxic politics and hidden agendas kept us in the dark.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
2019年9月，病毒数据库下线的时间，和武汉同期应对新冠病毒感染者的演练，纯属巧合？
They paid one visit to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they met with Shi Zhengli, as recounted in an annex to the mission report. One obvious demand would have been access to the WIV’s database of some 22,000 virus samples and sequences, which had been taken offline. At an event convened by a London organization on March 10, Daszak was asked whether the group had made such a request. He said there was no need: Shi Zhengli had stated that the WIV took down the database due to hacking attempts during the pandemic. “Absolutely reasonable,” Daszak said. “And we did not ask to see the data…. As you know, a lot of this work has been conducted with EcoHealth Alliance…. We do basically know what’s in those databases. There is no evidence of viruses closer to SARS-CoV-2 than RaTG13 in those databases, simple as that.”
In fact, the database had been taken offline on September 12, 2019, three months before the official start of the pandemic, a detail uncovered by Gilles Demaneuf and two of his DRASTIC colleagues.
June 6, 2021 更新 我把最近一个月以来围绕新冠病毒溯源的主要事件按时间线总结了一下，欢迎大家评论补充
May 5: Former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, writing in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reviews the evidence and makes a strong case for the lab-leak theory. He focuses in particular on the furin cleavage site, which increases viral infectivity for human cells. His analysis yields this quote from David Baltimore, a virologist and former president of the California Institute of Technology: “When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of the virus. These features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2.” https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
May 7: James Freeman, Assistant editor, editorial page, The Wall Street Journal became the first reporter of a major news outlet challenging the intertwined relationship among China, Fauci and Origins of COVID https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-fauci-and-the-origins-of-covid-11620419989
May 11: During a Senate hearing on the pandemic response, Paul alleged that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) had been sending funding to the Wuhan lab, which then "juiced up" a virus that was originally found in bats to create a super virus that can infect human cells. Paul pressed Fauci on the theory that the novel coronavirus was created in the Wuhan lab, and then somehow escaped, either because of an accident or because it was deliberately released. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/552857-rand-paul-clashes-with-fauci-over-coronavirus-origins
May 14: Eighteen prominent scientists publish a letter in the journal Science, saying a new investigation is needed because “theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable.” One signer is Ralph Baric, a virologist who worked closely with Shi. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1
May 17: Another former New York Times science reporter, Donald G. McNeil Jr., posts on Medium: “How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Lab-Leak Theory.” He quotes W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University — who had signed the March 2020 letter in Nature Medicine — as saying his mind had changed in light of new information. https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d
May 23: WSJ published an exclusive news piece which reports three researchers from China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care, according to a previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report that could add weight to growing calls for a fuller probe of whether the Covid-19 virus may have escaped from the laboratory. https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228
May 24: Anthony Fauci, apparently “changed” his mind, admitted earlier this month that he is no longer convinced that the Covid-19 pandemic originated naturally. Same day, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the 23rd commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said the growing number of reports provide an increasing amount of circumstantial evidence supporting the theory that the virus could have escaped from a lab. https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/24/politics/fauci-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/24/gottlieb-says-theres-growing-circumstantial-evidence-that-covid-may-have-originated-in-a-lab.html
May 26: President Biden ordered the Intelligence Community to redouble their efforts to collect and analyze information that could bring us closer to a definitive conclusion, and to report back in 90 days. Same day, The Editorial Board of WSJ endorsed the credibility of The Virus Lab Theory https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/05/26/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-the-investigation-into-the-origins-of-covid-19/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-virus-lab-theorys-new-credibility-11622066808
June 2: Uncovered Emails Show Fauci’s deep involvement in Gain of Function research https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf
June 3: Vanity Fair published a nearly 12,000-word article by award-winning journalist Katherine Eban; it''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s much worth reading on the bottom line question of whether COVID-19 indeed stemmed from a lab leak. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
June 6: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-wuhan-origins-60-minutes-2021-06-06/#app https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184
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你猜错了。我既不是轮子也不是疮粉。纯粹是在了解到那封《柳叶刀》上的科学家联署信其实是Peter Daszak背后协调的之后，感到有点愤怒了。
如果像你说的是阴谋论炒冷饭，怎么解释现在七国集团联合公报也正式呼吁溯源，而且特别点名中国呢？
Strengthening transparency and accountability, including reiterating our commitment to the full implementation of, and improved compliance with, the International Health Regulations 2005. This includes investigating, reporting and responding to outbreaks of unknown origin. We also call for a timely, transparent, expert-led, and science- based WHO-convened Phase 2 COVID-19 Origins study including, as recommended by the experts’ report, in China.
本来这话题应该是100%科学家领域，现在却是，名利场时装杂志，花街读者来信，一群前疮粉阴谋论者在拼命spin
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so the potential leak might happen before 09/2019???
很有可能 意大利的最早的病例可能是2019年11月底到12月从武汉传过去的，在人群中隐形传播了大概2-3个月才爆发 武汉也一样，12月已经爆发（要不然不会引起李文亮这种眼科医生的注意，也不会开始传到世界各国），往前推2-3个月就是9月左右。 武汉肯定知道有个超级传播者去过华南海鲜市场，所以早期拼命往华南海鲜市场上贴，但是同时肯定也知道他不是最早的一批病人。 其实lab-leak更高的可能性来自于武汉疾控中心的P2和P3实验室，他们也做蝙蝠病毒研究，CCTV在2019年底疫情没爆发的时候还有专题片。P2和P3的管理要松懈多了，又正好在疫情揭发之前搬家到华南海鲜市场附近。武汉地方很有动机去掩盖事故。他们做蝙蝠病毒研究的人自从疫情爆发之后就隐形了，剩下远在武昌的石正丽挡子弹。
美国《名利场》虽是时尚杂志，但另设团队专门从事时事调查报道，屡爆独家新闻。《 名利场》杂志6月3日发表长达1.2万字的调查报道，探讨美国主流舆论如何和为何一直 淡化新型冠状病毒溯源的“实验室外泄论”。报道提到24名业内专家去年的《柳叶刀》 联署信，令舆论认为外泄论只是阴谋论，连特朗普政府尝试溯源调查也受内部庞大阻力 ，难以将调查方向转向“功能增益”研究，有前高官质疑业界跟这项研究有太多利益轇 轕而妨碍中立调查。其中以世界卫生组织访华调查团专家成员达斯扎克最受争议，他任 职的机构长年收取华府拨款从事功能增益研究，合作对象正包括武汉病毒研究所。
据明报今天报道，探讨美舆论淡化“实验室外泄论”成因，《名利场》揭美专家科研利 益碍溯源。
《名利场》虽是时尚杂志，但另设团队专门从事时事调查报道，屡爆独家新闻。该杂志 周四（3日）报道，经连月调查，访问逾40人，又审视几百页政府文件，包括内部备忘 、会议纪录和电邮等，发现科学界有连串利益冲突嫌疑，令美国政府的病毒溯源调查工 作受阻，部分涉及华府巨额资助的争议性“功能增益”（gain of function）病毒研究 。这类研究主要是透过强化病毒以了解其特性。
美国资助研究涉武汉研究所
《名利场》报道指国务院一个溯源调查小组发现，3名在武汉病毒研究所从事冠状病毒 功能增益工作的研究员，前年秋天、即疫情已知爆发前染病，但在去年12月国务院4个 不同部门参与的会议上，有高官建议美国官方拒谈，以免外界之后聚焦到华府在功能增 益研究的角色，令不少与会者感到惊讶。报道还引述4名前国务院官员指，调查小组成 员被反复敦促不要打开“潘朵拉的盒子”，调查小组的直属上司坦言情况“感觉像掩饰 ”。
时任疾病控制及预防中心（CDC）主任雷德菲尔德（Robert Redfield）受访时更表示， 他去年3月表示支持外泄论后，收到来自一些著名科学家的死亡恐吓，“我预计会来自 政客，没预计来自科学界”。
白宫国家安全委员会有另一由时任副国安顾问博明统筹的病毒溯源团队。博明向《名利 场》称，许多业界顶尖专家都跟功能增益研究密切相关，收取或负责审批相关拨款，有 利益冲突之嫌，变相严重妨碍中立调查。
世卫访华专家卷利益冲突争议
该报道称，其中嫌疑最大的是世卫赴华专家组成员达斯扎克（Peter Daszak），这名英 籍动物学家屡次公开反驳外泄论。报道指出，达斯扎克出任主席的“生态健康联盟”多 年来收到华府资助，再将其分发予个别实验室和科研机构，在病毒学界形成巨大影响力 。生态健康联盟其一合作对象是武汉病毒研究所，据《新闻周刊》报道，达斯扎克跟石 正丽合著十数份论文，又经手至少60万美元的华府拨款予对方。生态健康联盟与武汉病 毒研究所的关系，一度促使特朗普政府直接下令叫停拨款，却引发81名诺贝尔奖得主发 公开信谴责，迫使当局改为向拨款设立条件。
达斯扎克是去年2月《刺血针》也叫《柳叶刀》24名专家联署信的幕后推手，该信在科 学界如同一锤定音，令实验室外泄论一直被视为阴谋论。声明宣称参与者不涉利益冲突 ，但《名利场》揭发有至少6名联署人士在生态健康联盟工作或受其资助，所引述的外 泄电邮亦显示，达斯扎克曾致函两名曾跟石正丽合作研究的科学家，称他们不应加入联 署，以免反令外界关注他们的科研合作联系。
明报说，中方一向否认实验室外泄论等病毒人造论述，并谴责西方藉疫情搞污名化和政 治操弄。
可是好几年前国内网站就有人爆料p4管理混乱，有实验人员把动物往外卖的现象，那时候covid好连个毛都没有呢
必有妖
这报道内容丰富，我前面的贴也提到。我有个safari 译文的pdf 版本，但是格式混乱，不合适贴在本版上。
A months long Vanity Fair investigation, interviews with more than 40 people, and a review of hundreds of pages of U.S. government documents, including internal memos, meeting minutes, and email correspondence, found that conflicts of interest, stemming in part from large government grants supporting controversial virology research, hampered the U.S. investigation into COVID-19’s origin at every step.
谢谢分享中文摘要
人人都可以审查，包括你在内。即使去年，也有几个重要媒体都报道lab leak 可能性。
一看你要不是墙内的，要不就是只看中文微信群。 vanity fair相当正统，报导的广度深度的质量挺高。当然文章都挺长的，英语不好的就是能看看图片当成时尚杂志了。
英语说shoppingisfun的人跑出来一本正经的说别人英文不好，这是啥冷笑话？
我也找这么看，本来事出有因，查无实据，推给大自然就end of story. 一个编故事造谣美国投毒说，一个陈薇军管五毒所，是让人生疑。
本大妈id注册10年多，英语水平比你要好点那是无疑的。
Shopping is fun有什么英语问题？应该怎么说？
没问题，本地幼儿园的孩子都这么说，非常地道。
那是肯定的，这个逻辑太强大了。
说新冠起源的事你跑到这里讥笑别人网名， 真有点中国外交部的风采， 你是超市买螃蟹时学的英文吧? bluecrab? 我觉得crawfish比较适合你
这些人策略就是这样的，能洗就洗，洗不了就搅浑水
不明所以。我们这里讨论来讨论去，甚至还有莫名其妙的美国放毒论，这不是言论自由是什么。如此单纯的一个溯源议题，在中国只有一个声音，是外国，是外国，是外国。。
这种深度的报导中国根本不会有。文章也没有draw conclusion, 就是陈述了各种调查结果和artifacts.楼上洗地的id们估计文章都没读完
这只是在允许你讨论的情况下
FB不是一直删lab origin的说法嘛
🤔 还有 每次说美帝 总有人拿tg出来垫底 这是什么心态？总是和差的比
Fb 是美国政府organ? 你的说法，正好说明美国有言论自由，FB 就能对着国家执政党总统干，它是私人企业，不喜欢，它就不让说。但是别人可以到别的地方说。中国人有这个选择吗？10 多亿人一个声音！beaver 你通常是有逻辑的，我以为你真有理由。
你这个又是缪误。那个余茂春收集了去年网上所有中文资料送到国务院，你如何知道华人声音没有影响？至于为何说到中国，是你先提言论自由，居然在溯源问题上指责美国没有言论自由。溯源问题与中国有关，好像你从未对中国的言论自由有任何微词。
2. Maistre说所谓武汉实验室其实不是一个实验室，而是一个实验室群。其中只有一个是P4,其余还有很多P3, P2的。
3. Rutgers University的生物化学教授Richard Ebright说他当时一听到武汉发现了跟蝙蝠有关的病毒瞬间就想到了武汉实验室，他说这世上总共只有三个实验室做相关研究，另外两个在Texas and North Carolina.
4. 美国Bureau of Arms Control, Verification, and Compliance的情报说武汉病毒所在2019年秋季（后文说是2019年11月）有三个做新冠病毒功能增益的研究员生病了，症状与COVID-19非常像。这个信息其实早都收到了但没人注意到，直到一个国外的线人提醒他们说关键证据就在美国手里。
（文中说美国人手里有大量关键信息但是没人注意到，到了2020年夏天武汉实验室的调查完全冷却，直到这三个研究员生病的事情被挖出来。联系其他一些事现在美国怀疑是自己政府内部有人故意把关键信息压下来了。）
5. 2015年石正丽和北卡的流行病学家Ralph Baric发过一篇文章，证明某种新冠病毒的突刺蛋白可以感染人类细胞。他们把从中国的horseshoe蝙蝠上的蛋白注入到SARS病毒的细胞结构里造出了一种新的感染病原。这个结果让石正丽和Baric自己都很担心，所以他们在文章里写到：这项研究可能会让审议的人觉得非常危险，但它的目的是给世界一个警示，SARS可能会卷土重来，现有的蝙蝠身上就有可能带有这类病毒。这篇文章的致谢里包括美国NIH和Ecohealth Alliance, 后者就是Peter Daszak搞的。
6. 病毒泄漏说最先是两个中国的科学家在2020年2月提出来的。他们写了篇文章，试图回答的问题是：到底这个新型蝙蝠病毒是怎么出现在武汉的？按理说冬天是蝙蝠冬眠的时候，武汉市场上也不卖蝙蝠。这个文章说他们调查了海鲜市场，发现武汉CDC就在280米以外，另外还有武汉病毒所，而众所周知武汉CDC存了上百个蝙蝠样本。然后他们的结论是病毒是武汉的某个实验室里泄漏的，应该要加强实验室管理。这个文章刚一出现在网上就被删，不过美国方面还是记录下来了。
2020年2月14日习近平突然要求加强生物实验室安全制度，石正丽一开始也害怕病毒是从自己实验室出去的，害怕有不当处理，尤其是在废物清理方面，她害怕得睡不着觉，直到确认新冠序列跟她的组的序列不一样才松了口气。
8. 2020年4月一篇关于CRISPR基因改造的文章发表。这篇23个作者里有13个都是解放军军事医学研究所的。他们用CRISPR技术对小白鼠进行基因改造让它们长出类似人肺，然后观察它们对现下流行的新冠病毒的反应。美国国家安全委员会(NSC)溯源这篇文章，发现这批小白鼠是在2019年夏天新冠发生之前就造出来了。美国现在在猜测是不是中国军方在研究病毒如何感染人类。NSC的人把这些情报交给其他部门，结果其他人都不感兴趣。
9. Alina Chan，Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard University博后，在2020年5月的一篇文章指出早期新冠病毒SARS-COV-2几乎没有变异。而一般从动物传到人身上的病毒都会有不少变异，SARS就是这样，但是新冠病毒看起来像是预先就已经是改编成了传染人的。
10. 印度的DRASTIC成员，The Seeker, 搜索了中国国家知识库（China National Knowledge Infrastructure），找到一篇2013年昆明的硕士生论文，里面有大量关于云南矿洞的信息，其中很多石正丽在她的描述中从未提及。
这篇论文里的一些信息：2012年云南墨江区6个挖矿工人去洞里挖蝙蝠粪， 之后他们病得很厉害，症状是咳嗽发烧呼吸困难，被送到昆明医科大学第一附属医院。医院请来了钟南山，钟南山断定是病毒感染并开始调查哪种蝙蝠可能会携带这种病毒，查出来是携带SARS病毒的horseshoe蝙蝠。后来其中三个矿工死了，他们的血液被送到武汉病毒所，化验证明SARS阳性。
石正丽的团队开始调查这个矿洞。2013年10月，石在Nature上发表研究结果，证明有些蝙蝠携带的病毒不需要中间宿主能直接感染人类，它们是通过ACE2 receptor进入人体细胞的。2014年和2016年石的团队继续查找具体哪种病毒感染了矿工，最终只找到了一种跟SARS非常接近的，命名为RaBtCoV/4991。2020年2月石团队发表文章，指出新冠SARS-CoV-2大约有80%同SARS类似，但有96.2%与他们手里的RaTG13类似。但是被询问到RaTG13什么时候被发现什么时候被测序的时候，石正丽的回答经常自相矛盾，直到几个研究组包括一些DRASTIC成员发现RaTG13跟石2012年发现的RaBtCoV/4991的序列完全一致。2020年7月石正丽承认RaTG13就是RaBtCoV/4991，只是换了个名字。8月石正丽和Daszak团队公布了他们自2010到2015年收集的630种新冠病毒。DRASTIC成员仔细分析了这些材料，发现有8种跟RaTG13非常接近的病毒从未被提及。石正丽给出的解释是,昆明那篇硕士论文一派胡言，搞得阴谋论的人都在怀疑她，她还能怎么做？
11. 武汉病毒所的数据库被删除，石正丽的解释是新冠期间怕黑客攻击，后来DRASTIC成员发现其实数据库是在2019年9月，新冠爆发前三个月被删除的。
12. 石正丽说病毒所没有一个人感染，但这跟美国拿到的三个人感染的情报是矛盾的。
13. WHO调研后出了个120页的报告，其中只有两页随便提了一下实验室泄漏极不可能。Jamie Metzl对这份材料的评估是fatally flawed。美国政府的评估是这份报告不但不严谨，很多地方还是前后矛盾的，还有些结论是建立在已经被撤稿的文章上。
14. 石正丽否认了武汉病毒所跟军方合作。而美国情报部门的文件表明武汉病毒所很早就和军方合作，而且军用和民用在同一个地方做动物实验。
15. 2021年5月2日，前纽约时报的撰稿人Nicholas Wade 写了一篇长文，引用诺贝尔奖得主David Baltimore的话，认为SARS-COV-2里的一段基因编码furin cleavage site是证明新冠起源的铁证。
感谢Summary. 要补充一点。中国方面拖了几乎半年才同意WHO派人调查，中国拒绝了所有三个提名，然后选了Paul 这个与WVI 关系最密切的人参加WHO “调查”，还未调查，就给了WHO一份 中国- WHO 调查预印本。
是的,我上面只是总结了跟科研本身有关的,没有跟人和政府的。
还有一个叫 worldineye 的一只眼五毛网友，每次看他的名字都特别别扭。
同意你的考虑。 所以我说的只是文章的另一个角度。
人跟政府的我也大概总结了一下,不过可能很不全。
后来名利场拿到的邮件证明这封联名信的牵头人是Peter Daszak, Ecohealth Alliance的头。他支持功能增益研究，通过Ecohealth Alliance把从联邦申请到的资金转包到各种实验室和机构搞这类研究，其中包括武汉病毒所。邮件显示他在发起签署Lancet信时特意关照几个主要的Ecohealth Alliance成员不要签，不要透露这封信与Ecohealth Alliance有关，而是让它看起来更像是科学界独立的声音。这封信末尾的话是：我们没有利益关联。Peter Daszak后来的解释是如果病毒是自然产生的，那就证明他致力一生的工作是有意义的。而如果病毒被证明是实验室出来的，那对病毒学的损害堪比切尔诺贝利对核科学。
美国当时提交了三个人的名单给WHO专家组，希望他们能随队进入中国调查，都没有获批,美国只有Peter Daszak被允许加入专家组. WHO的团队在中国的时候既不查原始数据，也不要武汉实验室提供他们的病毒序列，拿到的材料就是中国政府的分析结果。一个月的调查时间前两个星期都在旅馆隔离，最后去的是习近平伟大成就展览。Peter Daszak的解释是他们不需要武汉实验室的数据，因为石正丽一直在跟Ecohealth Alliance合作，所以大概知道怎么回事。他说武汉病毒所除了石正丽说的RaTG13没有其他跟SARS-COV-2接近的病毒。后来事实证明他撒谎了，因为他知道武汉病毒所还有至少8种非常接近的病毒。
2. 名利场拿到的大量政府文件表明，美国政府对新冠起源的调查充满了各种利益冲突（conflict of interest）。一些人被明确警告不要去查武汉实验室的功能增益研究，因为美国政府不想别人知道自己资助过这方面研究，新冠来源调查组的人不断被提醒不要打开潘多拉魔盒。这里提到两个机构内部都有这样的警告：Bureau of Arms Control, Verification, and Compliance和Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation。
2020年12月9号国务院开了查新冠源头的会，国务院Biological Policy Staff 主任Christopher Park 告诫与会人员，不要提到任何可能会指向美国参与功能增益研究的东西。其中一些人听到都傻眼了，觉得这不是明着在掩盖事实吗？ Park本人支持功能增益，曾参与撤销奥巴马时期定下的禁制这类研究的规定。他后来接受采访的时候否认掩盖事实，只是说不想太快下结论。
3. 美国前CDC的头Redfield因为在CNN上坚持实验室泄漏说还收到了死亡威胁，夸张的是有些死亡威胁竟然是他的同事和熟人发的。
5. DRASTIC的研究出来之后它的成员开始收到匿名电话，电脑也时不时出现异常。他们觉得是中国政府在背后使坏，所以把数据都移到加密网站上去了。DRASTIC开始有一些重量级人物加入。本来坚决反对阴谋论的Filippa Lentzos也觉得事情越来越可疑。2020年5月，她发表文章解释实验室泄漏的可能性，其中引用了武汉P4实验室主任的话说中国的实验室普遍维护不足，一些P3实验室甚至连基本的运行资金都不能保证。
6. 2020年1月3号，高福知会CDC的头Redfield, 说武汉出现不明肺炎，是从海鲜市场来的，但是保证不会人传人。不久高福又打电话承认早期很多人跟海鲜市场无关，而且病毒确实人传人。Redfield从一开始就怀疑武汉病毒所，他提出让美国专家去调研，当时排除病毒所非常容易，只要查一下病毒所人员是否有抗体就行了，但中国没有回应。
原文好像说美国提出三个人，都不接受，后来选了另一个美国代表Paul。
啊是的,我弄错了,修改过来。
Paul is Peter Daszak?
彼得打杂客这两天上了cctv，强烈抨击实验室泄漏的阴谋论！
文中讲NIH去年把他funding cut了。
辛苦了！摘要总结得很不错，信达雅！赞👍
如果是真的， 那这个Peter daszak就是evil了。 他现在该担心fbi的90天调查了。
对，我搞错了，那个可恶的家伙名字奇怪，记不住。
不要这样嘲笑五毛，我都是尊称他们为土共舔狗。
赞总结，这个杂志的文章中立
有个很神奇的地方
Fauci和zuckerburg的很多emails在这次露出来Fauci emails里都是遮掉的
你说他俩有啥不可以告诉我们大家的呢？national security的机密为啥zuckerburg又都能知道呢？
tg很差世人皆知
美帝也要和他们一样吗？不过真的也差不多了
组织上给你们起的网名太没创意, 一个adj followed by a noun. 我知道你的工作态度很好， 手段很多， 但起的网名暴露了一切， 脱光了衣服的你手段再多也会让人注意的
Bluecrab Cleverbeaver Silverwing
不用我再举例了吧? 改个名字吧。
Lol
我建议还是就事论事吧，不管谁，在这个版面还是可以自由发言，除非有证据表明是troll 故意捣乱。
后期估计新的瓜还会有
我觉得你还是很有理想主义的
忘了我俩是聊啥认识的了
新冠让我长期压力很大 记忆力很差了 sorry 但是你的id很醒目的
美帝吧 有点是让一些理想主义的人还有可以存活 虽然不一定可以声音响亮
天朝吧 就想也不想了
今天还发现一件事 觉得和我得新冠的症状也符合
因为S protein要从ACE2 receptor进细胞 把心脏和肺部的ACE2都占了 于是乎ACE2的正常功能都不能进行 于是心肌受损严重 血压高
以后可能可以出一些从这方面着手缓解症状的药吧
还有就是感染新冠会出现cell fusion 这样呢 病毒不一定需要释放到细胞外才能感染新的细胞 免疫机制很难发挥作用
总之是个很魔幻的🦠
1。石正丽在前后很多事情对不上，至少还有8个接近新冠病毒的序列，怀疑她主动被动说谎。看看将来石女士还会不会出国开会，新冠之前她很活跃的。
2。美国政府知道三个研究人员曾经得过类似新冠的病症，在世卫调查时要求拿到三人的原始材料，被拒绝了。同时，石女士也一再声明病毒所没有一人感染，好像还在这三人染病被揪出来之前。中国政府不肯溯源这三个人，让她说话信用打折扣，还有提前掩盖的意味。
fb禁言lab origin 主流媒体帮着压制言论
其实也没有哪个国家是真的净土 只是看背后势力的较量而已
美帝趁二战 积累了很多人力财力 可惜这些年下来都快耗完了 于是这些各类牛马蛇神都冒出来了
各类奇怪诡异的托 只要给钱 什么都可以托
哈，我觉得我们有时agree, 有时 agree to disagree. 意见可以不同，但是大家都要正派。你注意到了我的id, 不错。我注册时，感到大陆许多事情不但震惊, shock，而且一再突破底线。与我离开大陆时的感觉相差太大，我都有点麻木了，所以起名noshock.
嗯 和你一个感觉 大陆出现神马都波澜不惊了
什么大陆不大陆的，中国是中国，台湾是台湾。台湾那地方让他们自己闹去。
世界上，包括美国，都有以circumstantial evidence 定罪的。近例如章的不幸事件，那个凶手就是以circumstantial evidence 定罪的。客观而言，以这种方式看，武毒所的实际卷入病毒是完全确定的，至于如何牵连，则是进一步调查的任务。
sure
说大陆不对吗？你的挑衅莫名其妙。台独才喜欢说中国，你莫非是台独？不过这对我而言倒无所谓。
"看看将来石女士还会不会出国开会，新冠之前她很活跃的。"
其实这个“会不会出国开会”的问题很重要。看疫苗的进展情况，如果疫情到今年秋冬的时候确实消退了，西方国家重新开始组织各种线下的国际会议了，可以看看那些以前在国际会议上很活跃的中国病毒学研究人员还能不能出国开会？
就我所知，已经有好些其他行业的国际会议安排在9月以后恢复在美国线下举办了。
握爪 don’t really care
但新冠貌似打乱了所有事的节奏
今后各类事件的走向有点看不出来的感觉
May 5: Former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, writing in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reviews the evidence and makes a strong case for the lab-leak theory. He focuses in particular on the furin cleavage site, which increases viral infectivity for human cells. His analysis yields this quote from David Baltimore, a virologist and former president of the California Institute of Technology: “When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of the virus. These features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2.” https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/
May 7: James Freeman, Assistant editor, editorial page, The Wall Street Journal became the first reporter of a major news outlet challenging the intertwined relationship among China, Fauci and Origins of COVID https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-fauci-and-the-origins-of-covid-11620419989
May 11: During a Senate hearing on the pandemic response, Paul alleged that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) had been sending funding to the Wuhan lab, which then "juiced up" a virus that was originally found in bats to create a super virus that can infect human cells. Paul pressed Fauci on the theory that the novel coronavirus was created in the Wuhan lab, and then somehow escaped, either because of an accident or because it was deliberately released. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/552857-rand-paul-clashes-with-fauci-over-coronavirus-origins
May 14: Eighteen prominent scientists publish a letter in the journal Science, saying a new investigation is needed because “theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable.” One signer is Ralph Baric, a virologist who worked closely with Shi. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1
May 17: Another former New York Times science reporter, Donald G. McNeil Jr., posts on Medium: “How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Lab-Leak Theory.” He quotes W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University — who had signed the March 2020 letter in Nature Medicine — as saying his mind had changed in light of new information. https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-lab-leak-theory-f4f88446b04d
May 23: WSJ published an exclusive news piece which reports three researchers from China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care, according to a previously undisclosed U.S. intelligence report that could add weight to growing calls for a fuller probe of whether the Covid-19 virus may have escaped from the laboratory. https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228
May 24: Anthony Fauci, apparently “changed” his mind, admitted earlier this month that he is no longer convinced that the Covid-19 pandemic originated naturally. Same day, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the 23rd commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said the growing number of reports provide an increasing amount of circumstantial evidence supporting the theory that the virus could have escaped from a lab. https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/24/politics/fauci-donald-trump-coronavirus/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/24/gottlieb-says-theres-growing-circumstantial-evidence-that-covid-may-have-originated-in-a-lab.html
May 26: President Biden ordered the Intelligence Community to redouble their efforts to collect and analyze information that could bring us closer to a definitive conclusion, and to report back in 90 days. Same day, The Editorial Board of WSJ endorsed the credibility of The Virus Lab Theory https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/05/26/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-the-investigation-into-the-origins-of-covid-19/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-virus-lab-theorys-new-credibility-11622066808
June 2: Uncovered Emails Show Fauci’s deep involvement in Gain of Function research https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf
June 3: Vanity Fair published a nearly 12,000-word article by award-winning journalist Katherine Eban; it's much worth reading on the bottom line question of whether COVID-19 indeed stemmed from a lab leak. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
感谢总结，非常棒！
远离邪恶，敬畏自然
留着crawfish给你娃用吧，屁股歪看啥和政治关联，既然讨论完新冠起源就说点专业性的东西，这种出来强调英文媒体踩别人的ID是在正经讨论？别侮辱正经两个字。
石正丽以生命担保新冠病毒跟她的实验室没有关系，但是武毒所还有很多其他的实验室，所以这个声明并没有为武毒所撇清干系。
我相信在世界几十亿有common sense 的 jury 眼睛里，武毒所之卷入是没有疑问的。
举个例子， “淘汰的实验受体猪、牛和牛奶”流入市场
https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/20200208A0QEZ500
自2008年7月至2012年2月，相关课题在研究过程中利用科研经费购买了实验所需的猪、牛，对出售课题研究过程中淘汰的实验受体猪、牛和牛奶所得款项
确实是正统杂志，胸大无脑淑女的正统严肃杂志。
出现在美发美甲店椅子上，永远不会出现在大学政治专业图书馆书架上。 探听名人隐私，狗仔队，Paparazzi。政治报道也是走狗仔路数，充满脑补，耸人听闻，戏剧化情结。
数次因为编造耸人听闻故事而被告到法院。
比如波兰斯基一案，名利场说波兰斯基在Elaine餐馆搞幼女，但是事实是，波兰斯基一个月后才第一次去那家餐馆。法院判名利场撒谎诽谤。
用这种狗仔队文化来写科学溯源，结果可想而知，猜测，编造，耸人听闻，猎奇。。。充满娱乐精神，独独没有科学精神和专业素养。一个关心精液胜过关心DNA杂志，写科学溯源，可想最后写成什么。
石正丽所说与事实对照，表明了什么？ 两点： 1。表明在中国公布大流行之前至少三个月病毒就开始传播了。2。病毒源头来自于武汉病毒所。
Shi Zhengli had stated that the WIV took down the database due to hacking attempts during the pandemic. In fact, the database had been taken offline on September 12, 2019, three months before the official start of the pandemic.
circumstantial evidences
用这样的杂志的文章来佐证自己的观点，一股浓浓的轮味。。
轮子再没人品但也比你这种戴帽子说不出一点道理和新鲜货的高级一点
满地打滚刷屏占领简体中文圈也没有用。世界即将从疫情中走出，下一步一定要追和追溯源头。为了全人类要让该负责任的付出巨大代价，让逝者安息也防止这个世界再次走入这种灾难
其实过几个月就能看出来了：等线下的学术交流恢复了以后，看看武毒所的科研人员是不是还能像以前那样出国参会。。。
影响是潜移默化的。明面上因为政治正确虽然不说要怎么地，但是所有人内心里总是有这么个阴影。以后任何政策牵扯到对华利益的时候，就比较容易达成一致的决定。其实影响已经看出来了，欧洲一些国家在和中国的经济协议已经有转变的苗头了。如果地球人大都怀疑病毒从实验室泄漏的可能性很大，那么地球上其它国家人民对中国的好感会逐步下降，尤其是中国政府对调查病毒的态度，很难想到地球人对中国会有好感。如果地球人越来越多的讨厌一个国家，你说影响会有多大？