speaking of国际电话一分钟三块多美金, 姐当时在国内大二,BF已在美国,打电话是打到我宿舍一楼传达室,公用电话就放在窗外,电话响了谁走过就接一下,然后大嗓门喊,那谁来接美国长途。。。 经常赶上有人在唐电话粥,那么他就要打很多次才能打通,而且我经常不在宿舍。。。有个月吵架花了500美金,80年代属于巨款。每礼拜BF必写一封信,标了号, 我也必回一封。浪漫有爱吧?持续了2年多一直到我毕业。我妈还把信给我留着呢。。。有100多封,对于理科男,真的属于trying very hard
哈哈😄 老板很理直气壮嘛 好像是感恩节假期间,我是和几个女同学逛街,一个一个的商店看,后来进了一家店,还没抬头就听道清脆响亮的声音welcome! Let’s know if there is anything you are interested... 抬头一望,满眼的各种颜色和形状的JJ看着我们几个小姑娘,才发现是成人用品店。。。我们几个害羞的小伙伴们冲出商店,落荒而逃,然后到了一出空地,相互一视,大笑10分钟不止。。。好吧,第一次逛成人用品店的经历🤣
INA section 214 item B. Visa rejection reason due to immigration tendency (when applying for nonimmigrant visa category). yolandos 发表于 2021-05-05 22:13
By 2000, it seemed like everyone I knew in their 20s and 30s was working for a dot-com. (That should have been a warning sign right there.) Not just San Francisco Bay Area locals; new college grads and experienced business and technology professionals were migrating here from all over the country (and world) in the years leading up to the crash. Commentators famously compared it to Florence during the Renaissance. The housing market was beyond ridiculous at the peak. I mean worse than the usual "Bay Area ridiculous" that's been the status quo since the 1980s.
By 2000, it seemed like everyone I knew in their 20s and 30s was working for a dot-com. (That should have been a warning sign right there.) Not just San Francisco Bay Area locals; new college grads and experienced business and technology professionals were migrating here from all over the country (and world) in the years leading up to the crash. Commentators famously compared it to Florence during the Renaissance. The housing market was beyond ridiculous at the peak. I mean worse than the usual "Bay Area ridiculous" that's been the status quo since the 1980s. CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-05 22:26
By 2000, it seemed like everyone I knew in their 20s and 30s was working for a dot-com. (That should have been a warning sign right there.) Not just San Francisco Bay Area locals; new college grads and experienced business and technology professionals were migrating here from all over the country (and world) in the years leading up to the crash. Commentators famously compared it to Florence during the Renaissance. The housing market was beyond ridiculous at the peak. I mean worse than the usual "Bay Area ridiculous" that's been the status quo since the 1980s. CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-05 22:26
Well,in the late 1990s at the peak of the bubble I had a friend at yahoo whose stock options worth swings by 3 million dollars a day, total was something like 21 million... should have convinced me to move to California...
Well,in the late 1990s at the peak of the bubble I had a friend at yahoo whose stock options worth swings by 3 million dollars a day, total was something like 21 million... should have convinced me to move to California... yolandos 发表于 2021-05-05 22:34
这个这个 好震惊 If you were homeless the best place to really enjoy yourself and take a bath outside is in the creeks that are woven in the mountains of La Honda down old Route 84 off of Highway 101! The Borders bookstore down the street from the Cisco Corporation at East Tasman Drive, San Jose, CA was a hot spot. The bookstore is located on North McCarthy Blvd and Ranch Drive. Every Friday night during the years '02 - '03 there use to be free entertainment at the bookstore and the people really got together for it. There were a lot of people living in cars and vans there. How do I know this? Because I was homeless living in the van that used to hold my sportbike in Silicon Valley for one year too!
是不是感觉和现在一模一样? yesterday once more? 这次应该远超2000那次 jmm 发表于 2021-05-05 22:33
Totally. I still believe in miracles, though. My observation is even the bubble bursted, those in the middle of it still had been way better off than those watched on the sideline (hint, that''s me).
Totally. I still believe in miracles, though. My observation is even the bubble bursted, those in the middle of it still had been way better off than those watched on the sideline (hint, that''''s me). yolandos 发表于 2021-05-05 22:37
方舟子那是特例。 一般人会去中国走他那条路吗?
只听说过这个产品 好用吗
ah. good old days. I remember switching between AT&T and MCI to bring the international call cost down.
为什么不是他儿子江绵恒的决定?
还是很寂寞无聊啊,也是混华人圈子,很多人父母都办了投资移民,那个时候等待时间也不长。我身边基本上能去top 50的大学就是很牛了。
没有看脱衣舞的轶事,差评。。早期留学回国猥琐大叔们,还时不时的回忆起看脱衣舞等等香艳场面
这个我在quora上念过 当年palo alto餐馆里都是phd在端盘子 离开加州的u haul租也租不到
哪天我们又要回去那段岁月
脱衣舞我还真没有看过。只是带国内来玩的朋友去过好莱坞的性用品商店,那地方又脏又臭,一股尿味。大家都觉得很无聊,对了,有人去借过黄色录像,然后第二天回来跟老板说里面内容跟封面不符。老板说,有裸女吗?有,有打炮吗,有。那你没什么可抱怨的了。
我听过有人去hawaii看跳舞 评论是自然风光无限好
我花了很久才明白这nature是啥意思
对对对,我支持两性平等。
因为她是自费硕士,家里有钱有退路。这里的老留当年好多消了户口本来的,破釜沉舟啊……
男生天天喜欢美女有错吗?难道还需要 implement 不应期以防系统过载吗?
没有人工大咪咪?
所以他现在是你老公吗?
no。。。
上世纪来美国的是不是就是老老留了?
说的一点不错。
That's another long story…
户口只是国家的正常手续, 回去可以恢复. 我不知道你们什么毛病. 找不到同伴, 可以自己去开个贴.
你扫错人了……我也算老留吧……如果按端盘子分类。
不是提当年勇,在国内追的人不要太多。来了美国,嗯,人呢?
Organic silicone
Survivorship biases
哈哈😄 老板很理直气壮嘛
好像是感恩节假期间,我是和几个女同学逛街,一个一个的商店看,后来进了一家店,还没抬头就听道清脆响亮的声音welcome! Let’s know if there is anything you are interested... 抬头一望,满眼的各种颜色和形状的JJ看着我们几个小姑娘,才发现是成人用品店。。。我们几个害羞的小伙伴们冲出商店,落荒而逃,然后到了一出空地,相互一视,大笑10分钟不止。。。好吧,第一次逛成人用品店的经历🤣
额好吧. 华人上这批人应该几乎都没端盘子. 因为那时候全奖才拿得到签证.
哈哈哈哈哈,对~
之前的留学生出来的时候真的是一穷二白,口袋里面那点美金,缴玩第一个月房租和押金都啥都不剩了,眼巴巴的等着奖学金按月发下来。国内家人指望不上的 你说这个例子,女主自费读硕,说明家里当时是有矿的
没买,觉得有点沉。过了几年买了palm pda.
会。我知道的学长打工,都是因为要养活没有奖学金但也要读书的家属,有些还有娃。我则是因为毕业后找不到工作奖学金也挥霍完了……
Did it work out?
她有丈夫且丈夫有稳定收入,还有家里给生活费。 03年国内普通工薪家庭工资去了解一下吧,有几家能每月拿出哪怕一两百刀资助美国留学生生活费的?
手里就一个样本,足以disprove楼里几十个dp? 感觉这水平初中都不一定毕业了啊。。现在留学真是没门槛。
还是有不少的。一些家属过来读书的, 没有奖学金, 又要交学费, 都是一边打工一边读的。
哦对的. make sense. 因为F2打算自费上学...
嗯, 我当时有一个女同学打工, 她是转学去别的学校, 没了奖学金.
我当时是拿攒了的钱买了一辆98年的雅阁,那时候我可豪横了,那可是雅阁旗舰版,看看那皮座椅!看看那电加热!六缸旗舰版!就是放歌的怎么不是CD是磁带呢?然后一毕业找不到工作就傻眼了,开着我的旗舰版雅阁去端盘子了……
well mostly true. I have 214(B)on my first passport.
真欢乐啊。我就记得刚来的时候给家里打电话要用电话卡,说不了多久十几二十块就没有了。
哪像现在这么方便,还免费的。
哈哈. 这姑娘很大气.
214是什么?
你哪只眼睛看见我在"disprove"???不认识“提供视角多样性”几个字?你的阅读理解水平才是初中没毕业吧。我专门说了不是杠,戾气就这么重?不能听见不一样的经历?她丈夫一起出来的同学都是博后,薪水一样都是3000+,就算以今天的物价水平,3000刀需要过得清贫吗?房租+食物2000刀不够???
那你嫁给他了么?
拒签,补材料
不在两岸的话可以。但是如果在DC Virginia 3000今天很吃紧了。当年他们呆的美国根今天很不一样
同不懂什么破釜沉舟,来美国付出了太大的代价,这种说法。
来美国就是个人选择而已,当时觉得美国自由就来了。
INA section 214 item B. Visa rejection reason due to immigration tendency (when applying for nonimmigrant visa category).
他们在Michigan,我特别想让杠的人来给我讲讲,03年税后3000+工资(暂且不算女生家里的生活费)怎么会过得清贫
真的没有,当时都是帮学妹攒电脑,修电脑
应该不清贫了 可以买房了
250 刀第一辆车,得计1986年的。开了一年过不了年检100卖给了车行工人。
啊, 知道了... 很常见的理由当时.
不过回不了头了
有吧……那时候ibm 的ThinkPad还是很流行的……我也有一个
很多全奖(RA TA)出来的都没法指望家里的。意思是除了最开始带来的压箱底钱,之后什么事都不会向家里伸手那种,很多我知道的攒下钱来还给家里寄呢。
我记得一个月就1000左右奖学金,房租大概3/400,还要吃饭。够是够了,但是没有存款心里很没底啊,老板要是拿不到funding,RA contract续不上,不光没收入了还得自己掏钱交学费,那学费简直是天价啊,否则学生身份就过期。有这种不确定性所以大家都过得很节省。自费来读书的体会不到这种不安全感。
看样子潮水哥也拿到过214(B)
你不用见缝插针地来损当年出国的留学生. 没人这么觉得. 追求理想, 人生值得.
真的好浪漫哦……从来没人这么对过我……当然我也没这么对过别人
哈哈
我读书时拿钱买了个雅马哈的萨克斯风,于是就只能买辆最破的车还没空调。
然后某一个烈日炎炎的夏日,一贫嘴大妈因为有点事坐我的车。结果一路上嘲笑我的破车,转弯说哎呦喂,这车是不是要把我摔出去了。然后一路上说你这车没空调这日子怎么过来的。这也算了,最后居然开始同情那些女生们,说这么破的车是不是全校最破,居然还肯坐进来,你看女生们的生活是不是很艰难,云云。我勒个去,一路没少给白眼。
这个靠谱,差不多真的是这样。
没,我一签水过的。运气好。
https://www.quora.com/What-was-Silicon-Valley-like-after-the-bubble-burst-in-the-early-2000s
楼里的005马公还是公马同学给鉴定一下有没有夸张?
年少的感情最真挚热烈啊~~~~金钱是浮云啊~~~
o……回忆起来又心酸又甜蜜吧
我靠~~~你这好有情调啊,校花眼光很不错嘛。
😄
谢谢你平和的耐心解释。如果说大多数PhD是潜意识里有不安全感,想要存钱以备让自己掏学费就make sense确实他们两个都没有背着学费,一个家里付一个在工作。如果只考虑房租+食物,而且不介意月光,确实不会经济紧张吧
想起一个同学,phd 五年毕业存了四万美金,真心是省吃俭用冬天大衣没见换过
没错, 当时大家都是兴高采烈地跑来了, 既是同龄人中的佼佼者, 又是幸运儿. 爸妈都觉得自豪, 虽然舍不得. 他们同事里谁家孩子靠自己出去留学了, 大家全都知道.
重点是后来的BF都没那么帅了阿阿阿
2000刀够不够要看在哪了;在有的学校2000刀只能租一个凑合的一室一厅
那时候还有租录像带的铺子,我看了好多台湾综艺节目,比如张菲费玉清主持的“龙兄虎弟”,吴宗宪主持的“我猜我猜我猜猜猜”之类,那时觉得台湾综艺真幽默真好看啊!
是不是感觉和现在一模一样?
yesterday once more?
这次应该远超2000那次
就是这样的啊。
Well,in the late 1990s at the peak of the bubble I had a friend at yahoo whose stock options worth swings by 3 million dollars a day, total was something like 21 million... should have convinced me to move to California...
这个这个 好震惊
If you were homeless the best place to really enjoy yourself and take a bath outside is in the creeks that are woven in the mountains of La Honda down old Route 84 off of Highway 101! The Borders bookstore down the street from the Cisco Corporation at East Tasman Drive, San Jose, CA was a hot spot. The bookstore is located on North McCarthy Blvd and Ranch Drive. Every Friday night during the years '02 - '03 there use to be free entertainment at the bookstore and the people really got together for it. There were a lot of people living in cars and vans there. How do I know this? Because I was homeless living in the van that used to hold my sportbike in Silicon Valley for one year too!
只要你一直是鲜花就没关系啦lol
这就是个人选择的问题了,给我讲故事的couple,男主是挣工资的post doc,女主家里一直寄生活费,而他们还是月光。所以他们的青葱岁月都是去SoCal, Florida,Hawaii度假。明明不排除有些人是自己有钱也喜欢节省,结果我现在说一句前辈过得并不苦就要被楼上的某些人怼
Totally.
I still believe in miracles, though.
My observation is even the bubble bursted, those in the middle of it still had been way better off than those watched on the sideline (hint, that''s me).
任何时代都一样。现在的很多留学生也在夸大自己所经历的苦难、学业压力和孤独。我一直都是thinking positively
是的 现在的robinhood就是当年的eTrade
还有那个炒GME的宠物店老板 dot com bubble的时候也有一个宠物产品平台
我曾经在校园里吹萨克斯风时,一烙印问我能不能教他,他可以付学费。我只好说我做 TA/RA 太忙了没办法。
不过我买萨克斯风,是因为读书时不想太孤独寂寞冷而已,有个陪伴安慰。不是为了情调。
我当年还把我的黑管带到美国。那时所有箱子都已经打箱完毕,在临走前的晚上,我爸看了看,说 “你还是把你的黑管带走吧,万一你太无聊了,萨克斯风太重就算了。”。于是重新打开大箱子,把黑管的盒子拆了,只把黑管本身包在衣服里带走。
另外我大学本科时,确实是校艺术团乐队的非特招生。(注:不是清华艺术团)。
苦不苦都是对比出来的。你让我现在回想学生时候,一个日本破车就敢开着从芝加哥跑到纽约,现在是绝对不敢的
还有就是,你的国际学校老师,跟学生讲的自己的求学经历,也有可能是biased,总不能说我在美国这么多年都是蹲家里煮红烧肉省钱吧。。。
对,两口子如果都是有奖学金的,那又好很多,一个人的工资或者身份不保的话至少可以另一个人撑着,实在不行还可以转f2。最苦的是拖家带口的f1,最怕老板拿不到funding。
不一定喔 假设这次也是跌掉85%, 就到了2010年的价位了。你亏了吗?
BTW,你的英语实在不怎么样。
我记得以前父母来探亲,机票都是子女掏的。 经常F1带f2还有baby, 也能过。
He was last seen asking Austin Powers for ONE MILLION dollars.