近距离参观辽宁号飞机降落

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fredman
习肺帝这仪态.....村里面蹲墙角晒太阳的老农都比他顺眼
Trekker 发表于 2021-04-16 00:14

飞行员倒是选的真不错,全是五短身材还都没脖子。。
天生吃海航饭的。。。
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Trekker
飞行员倒是选的真不错,全是五短身材还都没脖子。。
天生吃海航饭的。。。
fredman 发表于 2021-04-16 00:19

why? 脖子长不宜航海?
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niubenniuben
苏联解体已经29年, TG还是拿着前苏联的的东西到处献宝。 看看绕着台湾跑圈都是毛熊的山寨货. 当年TU16/Mig21可是大哥手把手教的, 那Tu16新三年旧三年缝缝补补又五十年。 唯一能拿得出手的J10, 也是以色列和毛熊帮助才得以飞上天。 但J10腿短无法跑全场, 关键时刻还是大哥货撑门面, 牛皮的J20还真是隐形飞机。 TG军工实在不咋地, 但红粉们还那么有底气天天喊打。
bud 发表于 2021-04-15 22:06

那个隐形技术就是牺牲了大使馆换来的吧 不然真的没有任何亮点了
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manduka
真的假的啊?
zhegufei 发表于 2021-04-16 00:10

https://twitter.com/p58846392003/status/1382633575074340866 快訊
遼寧號三天沒有動的原因好像是因為鍋爐爆了
應該死了不少人
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fredman
why? 脖子长不宜航海?
Trekker 发表于 2021-04-16 00:21

脖子长抗G能力差,起飞降落容易昏过去。
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nj_guy
砍省丸把瓦妈当年那些反舰导弹的舱室取消了,应该内部空间更大些。如果包括直升机,库茨涅佐夫级应该可以装4,50架。固定翼比较少,大概就是你的数。
驫龘麤靐 发表于 2021-04-15 13:25

能装40~50架战机和能operate 40~50架战机是两回事。我不知道辽宁目前能不能够真的发起一次4架战机的攻击编队。在没有舰载加油机的情况下,如果起降间隔又很长,那编队后的真正空战滞空时间就很有限了。
单架战机的起降和实际的作战编队还有一定距离。我猜测中国海军现在能把12架歼15和8架直升机在辽宁舰上玩转就已经不容易了。
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tntcn
回复 102楼manduka的帖子
不会吧,莫非是在美国驱逐舰前秀一下机动性爆缸了?
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abracadabraa
故障的可能性比爆炸高: Boiler is connected to main Shaft through Turbine. If it is exploded, the Turbine Blades, Shaft and Main Bearing shall have also been damaged or impacted, which are usually beyond the repair by the regular maintenance crew. (Ref: similar like a thermo power plant)
Probably it is fake.
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slippp
当时萨达姆就是这种误判 以为他的特权武装力量 共和国卫队会卖命 至少造成美军伤亡他好谈条件 事实证明他想多了 兵败如山倒
niubenniuben 发表于 2021-04-15 14:05

拿这些绿头跟中国人比,你是不是脑子不大清醒?绿头几十个国家打一个小小以色列打了三次都动不了人家。中国那时候穷的跟个鬼,跟15个国家的联合军队打还能打个平手。更何况TG现在的现代化军事巨大发展。
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abracadabraa
拿这些绿头跟中国人比,你是不是脑子不大清醒?绿头几十个国家打一个小小以色列打了三次都动不了人家。中国那时候穷的跟个鬼,跟15个国家的联合军队打还能打个平手。更何况TG现在的现代化军事巨大发展。
slippp 发表于 2021-04-16 06:20

是蛮大的,参见 辽宁号
按你的逻辑,以色列不比中国差,所以你想想好,现在台湾的实力不比以色列弱,打起来的话,联合国军不一定有,但周围国家加北约不会袖手旁观,
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slippp
是蛮大的,参见 辽宁号
按你的逻辑,以色列不比中国差,所以你想想好,现在台湾的实力不比以色列弱,打起来的话,联合国军不一定有,但周围国家加北约不会袖手旁观,
abracadabraa 发表于 2021-04-16 06:25

根据我的陈述,你是怎么推出以色列不必中国差这种这种结果的?又怎么推出台湾不比以色列弱这个结果的?台湾人的脑回路果然奇特。完全无逻辑可言。
海威

锅炉爆了可是一个大新闻。要是真的已经传遍各大平台和军事论坛了。结果找了半天最早的出处是关键时刻。宝洁哥你又来骗我!
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abracadabraa
根据我的陈述,你是怎么推出以色列不必中国差这种这种结果的?又怎么推出台湾不比以色列弱这个结果的?台湾人的脑回路果然奇特。完全无逻辑可言。
slippp 发表于 2021-04-16 06:37

原来这么容易就能让你套进来啊。
你觉得中国打得过以色列么,不需要3次,1次就行。不需要用你的人海战术,因为在你国,你这种人和丧尸差不多。(参见 WORLD WAR OF Z).
要打台湾,趁早,别光在中国梦里面,会梦遗的。
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slippp
是蛮大的,参见 辽宁号
按你的逻辑,以色列不比中国差,所以你想想好,现在台湾的实力不比以色列弱,打起来的话,联合国军不一定有,但周围国家加北约不会袖手旁观,
abracadabraa 发表于 2021-04-16 06:25

辽宁号对中国来说算个什么玩意?无非是中国拿来练手玩玩的玩具罢了。后面的核电弹才是正式开始。
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abracadabraa
辽宁号对中国来说算个什么玩意?无非是中国拿来练手玩玩的玩具罢了。后面的核电弹才是正式开始。
slippp 发表于 2021-04-16 06:57

辽宁号对中国来说算个什么玩意?
你习大大到辽宁号上。。。难道也是算个什么玩意
公然映射当今遗尊,你好大的胆子,小心被拿下
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niubenniuben
辽宁号对中国来说算个什么玩意?无非是中国拿来练手玩玩的玩具罢了。后面的核电弹才是正式开始。
slippp 发表于 2021-04-16 06:57

核电弹技术都还没偷到手 就开始意淫了 既然做梦不如直接二向箔吧 那个至少还算国产货 果然是梦遗一族
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mouton
不论如何,没有航母的总算有了国产品,进步与否自有定论。
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huaren_999
这不是瓦良格吗?
流浪的那只萤火
核电弹技术都还没偷到手 就开始意淫了 既然做梦不如直接二向箔吧 那个至少还算国产货 果然是梦遗一族
niubenniuben 发表于 2021-04-16 08:12

中国第3艘航母都快完成了。
弹射已经和美国一样了。


Click to enlarge. This commercial satellite image shows the massive hull of the Type-003 aircraft carrier. Based on the dimensions of the hull near the waterline, the overall carrier appears nearly as large as the US Navy''s Ford Class ships. China’s New Aircraft Carrier Is In Same League As US Navy’s Ford Class The Chinese Navy is radically modernizing its capabilities. Chief among these are a fleet of aircraft carriers. A new satellite image clearly shows the Type-003 aircraft carrier taking shape in Shanghai, and it is the largest so far. H I Sutton  15 Apr 2021
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sillynut
马斯廷舰长和官兵应该看得最清楚。
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niubenniuben
中国第3艘航母都快完成了。
弹射已经和美国一样了。


Click to enlarge. This commercial satellite image shows the massive hull of the Type-003 aircraft carrier. Based on the dimensions of the hull near the waterline, the overall carrier appears nearly as large as the US Navy''s Ford Class ships. China’s New Aircraft Carrier Is In Same League As US Navy’s Ford Class The Chinese Navy is radically modernizing its capabilities. Chief among these are a fleet of aircraft carriers. A new satellite image clearly shows the Type-003 aircraft carrier taking shape in Shanghai, and it is the largest so far. H I Sutton  15 Apr 2021
流浪的那只萤火 发表于 2021-04-16 08:27

当年第二艘出来之前 也是这样吹的 能用再说吧
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sillynut
回复 5楼niubenniuben的帖子
没有比较就没有伤害啊,差距太大了
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niubenniuben
回复 5楼niubenniuben的帖子
没有比较就没有伤害啊,差距太大了
sillynut 发表于 2021-04-16 08:32

所以在墙内 只要你说实话 就是寻衅滋事 只能一直意淫
流浪的那只萤火
当年第二艘出来之前 也是这样吹的 能用再说吧
niubenniuben 发表于 2021-04-16 08:32

不用出来吧,看结构,甲板是平的,不是翘的,
就肯定是弹射的。
这段报导也说是弹射技术
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-is-in-same-league-as-us-navys-ford-class/
Another advanced technology often talked about with respect of the Type-003 is EMALS (electro-magnetic aircraft launch system). This takes the place of a traditional steam catapult. It is mechanically simpler and, in theory, will allow for more rapid take-offs. However the first system in the world, aboard the USS Ford, has reportedly suffered teething problems. Whether there is a surprise in store for the PLAN is hard to judge. In general the Chinese Navy do things their own way and are forging ahead, gaining valuable at-sea experience all the time. It is not just the U.S. Navy that the Chinese carriers will be compared to. Possibly in response to the PLAN’s carrier program Japan is converting two of its current helicopter carriers to carry jets. And South Korea is also planning a carrier. Larger carriers from elsewhere may also start appearing in the region. The Royal Navy’s Queen Elizabeth class carriers are expected to operate in the Pacific.
But the closest equivalent, in terms of size and configuration, is likely to be France’s next carrier. The PANG (Porte-avions de nouvelle génération) will have a waterline length of 305 meters (1,000 feet). Its flight deck will actually be shorter however at 300 meters (984 ft). Unlike the Chinese carrier (but like the carrier it will replace, Charles de Gaulle), PANG will be nuclear powered. But they are otherwise roughly similar in size. The assembly of the Type-003 is quite rapid now and more super-modules can be seen on the dock side in the satellite image. Soon the flight deck will start to take shape and we may get a clearer view of its final dimensions.
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niubenniuben
不用出来吧,看结构,甲板是平的,不是翘的,
就肯定是弹射的。
这段报导也说是弹射技术
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-is-in-same-league-as-us-navys-ford-class/
Another advanced technology often talked about with respect of the Type-003 is EMALS (electro-magnetic aircraft launch system). This takes the place of a traditional steam catapult. It is mechanically simpler and, in theory, will allow for more rapid take-offs. However the first system in the world, aboard the USS Ford, has reportedly suffered teething problems. Whether there is a surprise in store for the PLAN is hard to judge. In general the Chinese Navy do things their own way and are forging ahead, gaining valuable at-sea experience all the time. It is not just the U.S. Navy that the Chinese carriers will be compared to. Possibly in response to the PLAN’s carrier program Japan is converting two of its current helicopter carriers to carry jets. And South Korea is also planning a carrier. Larger carriers from elsewhere may also start appearing in the region. The Royal Navy’s Queen Elizabeth class carriers are expected to operate in the Pacific.
But the closest equivalent, in terms of size and configuration, is likely to be France’s next carrier. The PANG (Porte-avions de nouvelle génération) will have a waterline length of 305 meters (1,000 feet). Its flight deck will actually be shorter however at 300 meters (984 ft). Unlike the Chinese carrier (but like the carrier it will replace, Charles de Gaulle), PANG will be nuclear powered. But they are otherwise roughly similar in size. The assembly of the Type-003 is quite rapid now and more super-modules can be seen on the dock side in the satellite image. Soon the flight deck will start to take shape and we may get a clearer view of its final dimensions.
流浪的那只萤火 发表于 2021-04-16 08:37

平的说明是想弹射 兴奋点应该是能不能弹射, 而不是想不想弹射吧
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Cinderella_smile
唉,被122、123楼的回复逗乐了,赶紧飘走..........
吃樱桃的小猪
怎么还有人拿歪脖子说事。这很无聊。
zhegufei 发表于 2021-04-15 14:17

只要能黑,能讽刺,鄙视,没有的事都可以拿来说,对于这些人都专业技能,哈哈
吃樱桃的小猪
有什么样的人民, 就有什么样的政府。 中国人和中国共产党是匹配的。 就是共产党下去, 上来的换个名字,还是会一样, 这种文化最后竞争上位成功的, 一定是毛习, 普京这类人。
qd1981 发表于 2021-04-15 14:48

很赞同。
吃樱桃的小猪
那人应该年纪好大了,思想还停留在几十年前。我开始还以为那是他自己的头像,后来狗了一下才知道是个老演员。
果小小 发表于 2021-04-15 16:39

应该是89年跑出来的。已经改不了。
吃樱桃的小猪
why? 脖子长不宜航海?
Trekker 发表于 2021-04-16 00:21

机舱内部空间小,脖子长容易顶着机舱盖,还有脖子长的人做极限动作,几个G的特技容易出问题。
吃樱桃的小猪
https://twitter.com/p58846392003/status/1382633575074340866 快訊
遼寧號三天沒有動的原因好像是因為鍋爐爆了
應該死了不少人
manduka 发表于 2021-04-16 01:36

哈哈。。
吃樱桃的小猪
辽宁号对中国来说算个什么玩意?无非是中国拿来练手玩玩的玩具罢了。后面的核电弹才是正式开始。
slippp 发表于 2021-04-16 06:57

你那么认真回复那些1450 渡轮云干嘛,当看笑话就好了。
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wackrq
一堆破铜烂铁也敢拉出来?零作战能力。
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niubenniuben
当年宣传小米加步枪 导致如今迷之自信 以为人民战争可以变废为宝 所以开着二手翻新货出来了
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manduka
锅炉爆了
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manduka
https://twitter.com/p58846392003/status/1382633575074340866 快訊
遼寧號三天沒有動的原因好像是因為鍋爐爆了
應該死了不少人
manduka 发表于 2021-04-16 01:36

鍋爐爆了
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abracadabraa
不用出来吧,看结构,甲板是平的,不是翘的,
就肯定是弹射的。
这段报导也说是弹射技术
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/04/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-is-in-same-league-as-us-navys-ford-class/
Another advanced technology often talked about with respect of the Type-003 is EMALS (electro-magnetic aircraft launch system). This takes the place of a traditional steam catapult. It is mechanically simpler and, in theory, will allow for more rapid take-offs. However the first system in the world, aboard the USS Ford, has reportedly suffered teething problems. Whether there is a surprise in store for the PLAN is hard to judge. In general the Chinese Navy do things their own way and are forging ahead, gaining valuable at-sea experience all the time. It is not just the U.S. Navy that the Chinese carriers will be compared to. Possibly in response to the PLAN’s carrier program Japan is converting two of its current helicopter carriers to carry jets. And South Korea is also planning a carrier. Larger carriers from elsewhere may also start appearing in the region. The Royal Navy’s Queen Elizabeth class carriers are expected to operate in the Pacific.
But the closest equivalent, in terms of size and configuration, is likely to be France’s next carrier. The PANG (Porte-avions de nouvelle génération) will have a waterline length of 305 meters (1,000 feet). Its flight deck will actually be shorter however at 300 meters (984 ft). Unlike the Chinese carrier (but like the carrier it will replace, Charles de Gaulle), PANG will be nuclear powered. But they are otherwise roughly similar in size. The assembly of the Type-003 is quite rapid now and more super-modules can be seen on the dock side in the satellite image. Soon the flight deck will start to take shape and we may get a clearer view of its final dimensions.
流浪的那只萤火 发表于 2021-04-16 08:37

基本上可以肯定,你没读懂这段报道
However the first system in the world, aboard the USS Ford, has reportedly suffered teething problems. Whether there is a surprise in store for the PLAN is hard to judge. In general the Chinese Navy do things their own way and are forging ahead, gaining valuable at-sea experience all the time.
003还是常规动力(BOILER) 贵国准备多少天补给一次?
干脆烧柏油吧,比柴油便宜多了
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niubenniuben
不怕,锅炉爆了不要紧,锅还在就行。摇舷窗的时候注意要慢一点,这样美国会以为我们还是电动的。
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kathyy
应该是89年跑出来的。已经改不了。
吃樱桃的小猪 发表于 2021-04-16 09:45

你太低估89年跑出来的,89年跑出来的很多都是人精,我就见过一个,89年的学生领袖,跑出来,现在跟国内各种合作捞钱不要太忙,这次新冠组织各种捐赠口罩医疗器械,前一段还在给捐赠中出大力的海外华人写感谢信各种表彰呢
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niubenniuben
辽宁号怎么了?盛传海上定点停留一天引发热议 普遍认为某种故障是它停泊的原因,但目前没有更明确讯息支持
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abracadabraa
辽宁号怎么了?盛传海上定点停留一天引发热议 普遍认为某种故障是它停泊的原因,但目前没有更明确讯息支持

niubenniuben 发表于 2021-04-16 12:40

从它的航速很容易推断出主轴的转速,对比之前的航速, 从而大概估计出问题的严重性
比方说POWER TRAIN:齿轮, 主轴,主轴轴承,或者TURBINE叶片。如果真的有过BOILER爆炸,这些东西都会变形或损坏。
所以,船停了一天应该是在ASSESS SITUATION
这种情况下,非要自己开回去对船本身很伤的
好像MUSTIN还是跟着这船,我倒是有点开始可怜PLA NAVY了,SIGH
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niubenniuben
从它的航速很容易推断出主轴的转速,对比之前的航速, 从而大概估计出问题的严重性
比方说POWER TRAIN:齿轮, 主轴,主轴轴承,或者TURBINE叶片。如果真的有过BOILER爆炸,这些东西都会变形或损坏。
所以,船停了一天应该是在ASSESS SITUATION
这种情况下,非要自己开回去对船本身很伤的
好像MUSTIN还是跟着这船,我倒是有点开始可怜PLA NAVY了,SIGH
abracadabraa 发表于 2021-04-16 13:00

只要还能动弹 自己开毫无疑问 众目睽睽下让人拖回去 就没脸再出来了 伤不伤无所谓 连五毛都承认就是个吉祥物而已
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abracadabraa
如果换一套POWER TRAIN, 他们基本上可以造一条新的了
IF, ONLY IF
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pwwq
辽宁号怎么了?盛传海上定点停留一天引发热议 普遍认为某种故障是它停泊的原因,但目前没有更明确讯息支持

niubenniuben 发表于 2021-04-16 12:40

坐邮轮出去玩, 也会有一两天在一个地方不动, 也许解放军士兵在休假
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niubenniuben
国有资产 要算政治账 不算经济账
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bud
记得有报道,苏联解体后俄罗斯无力完成该航母,就炸掉了内部主要结构。 后来香港一家白手套以废钢铁价格购得该舰,运回国内。 国内高价从乌克兰买回了原厂图纸,修复内部结构,并从乌克兰进口了原厂动力系统。 以前有传该航母动力系统有过故障。 如果这次网上说法是真的,这舰本身就有内伤。