亲历!妈妈持绿卡国内超过一年,东航被拦, 美国顺利入境

purpledee
回复 191楼的帖子
你要帮东航洗地就负责一点,你不是一直口口声声说东航按章办事吗?拿个章出来给大家看很难吗?真要拿章给我们看,就开始扯到别的啦?你放心, 发的有用的东西我一定会看。 我开的贴本来就不是给你这样的杠精看的,你目前家里没有滞留一年的绿卡者, 也没有提出过正面有建设型建议,你有啥资格说我杠精?至少我诚恳的告诉别人我的经历,希望帮助了和我类似经历的人。你不但早该撤了, 你进都不该进来。
如果你的目的只是帮东航说话,说他们好,而不是给我们建设型有用建议,建议你出门右拐另开一贴,专门讨论东航如何好,你要如何感谢他们的好。
我今天和我妈说,居然有人要我们感谢东航,我妈说航空公司的人刁难我几个小时,还骗我说问了美国海关,会被遣返,居然还要感谢他们的损,这些人想什么?
我是杠精无所谓,反正我妈来了天天给我做好吃的,姐闲得很,对付这些站着说话不腰疼,还出言不逊的杠精,我不认识,也没必要客气。


morelove 发表于 2021-04-10 00:08

章已经share过很多次了啊,就是那个vn.usembassy.gov的链接阿。东航很大可能就是和大家一样,在美国政府网站上面找信息。不要把这些公司想象的太高大上了,他们不一定会花钱去雇移民律师的。而且即使有律师,也可能是中国律师,或者是一个律师管50个国家,你说得那些tricky的东西,他们不一定知道的。你想想,东航如果雇100个移民律师来对付每一个国家的移民,早亏本了。
不过我想听听东航怎么骗你的,他们在你面前打电话给美国CBP吗?
既然美国CBP这么的人性化,那相信大使馆也是会人性化的,SB1签证会特殊情况特殊对待的。所以正解说不定就是去申请SB1签证。
最后我再把“章”发一次,凭心而论,你要是东航,在美国政府网站看见这么一段,你会怎么做? (假设东航没有现役中美移民律师)。
https://vn.usembassy.gov/useful-information-for-lprs-green-card-holders-during-covid-19/
Will USCIS consider the current COVID-19 situation as an exceptional circumstance and allow affected LPRs presently outside of the U.S. to retain their LPR status? There has not been an announcement or policy exception issued by USCIS regarding this issue. LPRs who have stayed outside of the United States for more than one year, or longer than the validity of their Re-Entry Permits, are generally considered to have abandoned their LPR status. If your case falls under either of these scenarios and you wish to return to the United States, you will need to apply for an SB-1 Returning Resident visa with the Immigrant Visa (IV) Unit. Please see instructions here.
morelove
回复 193楼purpledee的帖子
what? 我没看错吧,你说东航是按照越南美国大使馆网站上的链接办事? Are you sure? 你可以仔细去读读嘛? 你把哪一段是说有效绿卡滞留超过一年, 会被海关遣返, 什么情况办SB-1,你这么一说 , 我更确认东航在有效绿卡滞留这一块,没有照章办事, 是勿乱办事, 耽误大家。 我发现你根本就没仔细读我的贴, 你也没有仔细读你发的链接, 建议你别不停的说那个链接, 只会为你和东航减分。 , 东航怎么说的, 我已经说了很多次, 你自己可以去看, 我没必要不停重复,你听了以后可以做什么?帮大家去和东航聊聊嘛?提高他们的专业能力, 更好的方便旅客,为证件有效的旅客减少无谓的损失嘛? 如果你能, 那先谢谢你啦。
purpledee
回复 193楼purpledee的帖子
what? 我没看错吧,你说东航是按照越南美国大使馆网站上的链接办事? Are you sure? 你可以仔细去读读嘛? 你把哪一段是说有效绿卡滞留超过一年, 会被海关遣返, 什么情况办SB-1,你这么一说 , 我更确认东航在有效绿卡滞留这一块,没有照章办事, 是勿乱办事, 耽误大家。 我发现你根本就没仔细读我的贴, 你也没有仔细读你发的链接, 建议你别不停的说那个链接, 只会为你和东航减分。 , 东航怎么说的, 我已经说了很多次, 你自己可以去看, 我没必要不停重复,你听了以后可以做什么?帮大家去和东航聊聊嘛?提高他们的专业能力, 更好的方便旅客,为证件有效的旅客减少无谓的损失嘛? 如果你能, 那先谢谢你啦。
morelove 发表于 2021-04-10 00:38

美国驻越南大使馆也是美国的喉舌,不能说越南美国大使馆的信息就是不对的。
If your case falls under either of these scenarios and you wish to return to the United States, you will need to apply for an SB-1 Returning Resident visa with the Immigrant Visa (IV) Unit. Please see instructions here.
you will need写得很清楚了,而且没有提任何的alternative,也没有提说可以try luck闯关。
不过我确实想知道东航怎么骗你的,我没找到,你的原贴里面没有说具体怎么骗你的,你可以说说是几楼吗,我很感兴趣。
小气蔻蔻
你这个其实不算什么,我有朋友绿卡3年多没回美国的,只要有病历翻译件公证书,海关很痛快的就放行了。
morelove
回复 195楼purpledee的帖子

越南美国大使馆都说的那么清楚, 一切要依据USCIS,你打开USCIS网站,敲黑板,划重点 ‘ If you remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years, any reentry permit granted before your departure from the United States will have expired. In this case, it is advisable to consider applying for a returning resident visa (SB-1) at the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.’
看清楚, 2年以上!


What if my trip abroad will last longer than 1 year? If you plan on being absent from the United States for longer than a year, it is advisable to first apply for a reentry permit on Form I-131. Obtaining a reentry permit prior to leaving the United States allows a permanent or conditional permanent resident to apply for admission into the United States during the permit’s validity without the need to obtain a returning resident visa from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate abroad. Please note that it does not guarantee entry into the United States upon your return as you must first be determined to be admissible; however, it will assist you in establishing your intention to permanently reside in the United States. For more information, see the Travel Documents page. If you remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years, any reentry permit granted before your departure from the United States will have expired. In this case, it is advisable to consider applying for a returning resident visa (SB-1) at the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. An SB-1 applicant will be required to establish eligibility for an immigrant visa and will need a medical exam. There is an exception to this process for the spouse or child of either a member of the U.S. Armed Forces or civilian employee of the U.S. Government stationed abroad on official orders. For more information on obtaining a returning resident visa, see the Department of State’s webpage on returning resident visas. Additionally, absences from the United States of six months or more may disrupt the continuous residency required for naturalization. If your absence is one year or longer and you wish to preserve your continuous residency in the United States for naturalization purposes, you may file an Application to Preserve Residence for Naturalization Purposes on Form N-470. For more information, please see the Continuous Residence and Physical Presence Requirements page.

purpledee
回复 195楼purpledee的帖子

越南美国大使馆都说的那么清楚, 一切要依据USCIS,你打开USCIS网站,敲黑板,划重点 ‘ If you remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years, any reentry permit granted before your departure from the United States will have expired. In this case, it is advisable to consider applying for a returning resident visa (SB-1) at the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.’
看清楚, 2年以上!


What if my trip abroad will last longer than 1 year? If you plan on being absent from the United States for longer than a year, it is advisable to first apply for a reentry permit on Form I-131. Obtaining a reentry permit prior to leaving the United States allows a permanent or conditional permanent resident to apply for admission into the United States during the permit’s validity without the need to obtain a returning resident visa from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate abroad. Please note that it does not guarantee entry into the United States upon your return as you must first be determined to be admissible; however, it will assist you in establishing your intention to permanently reside in the United States. For more information, see the Travel Documents page. If you remain outside of the United States for more than 2 years, any reentry permit granted before your departure from the United States will have expired. In this case, it is advisable to consider applying for a returning resident visa (SB-1) at the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. An SB-1 applicant will be required to establish eligibility for an immigrant visa and will need a medical exam. There is an exception to this process for the spouse or child of either a member of the U.S. Armed Forces or civilian employee of the U.S. Government stationed abroad on official orders. For more information on obtaining a returning resident visa, see the Department of State’s webpage on returning resident visas. Additionally, absences from the United States of six months or more may disrupt the continuous residency required for naturalization. If your absence is one year or longer and you wish to preserve your continuous residency in the United States for naturalization purposes, you may file an Application to Preserve Residence for Naturalization Purposes on Form N-470. For more information, please see the Continuous Residence and Physical Presence Requirements page.


morelove 发表于 2021-04-10 00:48

你这个USCIS的我读过,通篇都是planned trip lasting more than 1 or 2 year的政策, 没有写你这样unplanned trip lasting more than 1 year的政策, 但没写不代表没有相关的政策。我相信越南大使馆的就是unplanned trip lasting more than 1 year的政策
你如果想要用这个uscis的条文来cover你自己,那你就需要提前申请re-entry permit, 但是你没有因为你是unplanned。这也许就是大家和你辩论的关键的点。
你还是没说东航怎么给CBP打电话,怎么骗你的细节呢。如果他们没打,骗你打了,那就是他们的不对了。
morelove
回复 198楼purpledee的帖子
你到底有没有看我之间写的? unplanned情况我都有说,你没看到而已。 至于东航如何和我妈说的, 我至少写了三次, 你自己去翻, 我没必要为你再打一次,浪费我时间。 而且我估计你家里也没有人有绿卡有效预期滞留的问题, 所以我不知道你讨论争论半天, 要给大家什么有效建议?
我再说最后一次,关于你的链接, 越南美国大使馆写的非常清楚, 一切按照USCIS的规定来。就算越南美国大使馆提到unplanned情况,你要东航和旅客说, 看到越南的美国大使馆的规章, 所有不能放行中国旅客? 你在搞笑吗?驻北京美国大使馆同意吗? USCIS同意吗?

purpledee
回复 198楼purpledee的帖子
你到底有没有看我之间写的? unplanned情况我都有说,你没看到而已。 至于东航如何和我妈说的, 我至少写了三次, 你自己去翻, 我没必要为你再打一次,浪费我时间。 而且我估计你家里也没有人有绿卡有效预期滞留的问题, 所以我不知道你讨论争论半天, 要给大家什么有效建议?
我再说最后一次,关于你的链接, 越南美国大使馆写的非常清楚, 一切按照USCIS的规定来。就算越南美国大使馆提到unplanned情况,你要东航和旅客说, 看到越南的美国大使馆的规章, 所有不能放行中国旅客? 你在搞笑吗?驻北京美国大使馆同意吗? USCIS同意吗?


morelove 发表于 2021-04-10 01:24

我用只看楼主功能,用关键字”plan”还有“计划”搜索了你在这个楼里面的所有帖子,没有见过你任何planned vs unplanned的讨论。不过,我欢迎你打脸
你如果现在就抱持着信息来源是越南美国大使馆这一条来争论,那你真在扛了,我在举个日本的。
immigrants who hold permanent resident status and reside outside of the United States for more than 12 months without prior approval from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) must obtain a new immigrant visa to return to the United States.
https://jp.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/green-card/maintaining-permanent-resident-status/
xdhong
回复 154楼Silverwing的帖子
絕大多數人都是守法的 守法是應該的 沒錯 但另一方面 有各種情況無法在1年內回美國的 這種情況只要好好解釋(很多時候第一次而且不是好幾年不回來的根本都不太需要解釋)大多數海關就放進來了 這也是事實 但這確實不是心存僥倖違法的理由

morelove
回复 200楼purpledee的帖子
我扛什么?有什么值得扛?
搜索的都不对,说明你根本没看我写的。我更没必要浪费时间在你身上。
你回复的所有的,给我的感觉就是抓不到重点,你把全世界的美国大使馆网站都贴过来都没问题,我尊重你的行为艺术,你还可以另开一贴,名字都帮你想好啦“各国美领馆关于绿卡逾期一年cov19政策总结” 但都注明遵循uscis的规则这一事实。你觉东航和海关会用uscis还是各国美使馆的政策?
你反复发的这个网站链接,我想请问,你到底给了这些unplanned的绿卡持有者什么建设性建议让大家回到美国?
我分享的我的经历,是多少帮助和我有一样需求和经历,因为特殊不可抗拒原因,希望能安全回到美国,我也相信帮助了大部分人,私信我的我也都回复,提供我有的信息。
你们几个喜欢杠的,基本都是家里没有逾期一年到2年,不需要我的经历做参考,给不了建设型解决方案,而是非要在这里,为了一些无关的,不痛不痒的争来争去,杠来杠去。
发的越南美领馆链接,各国政策对比,各国机场差异,如何办返美证,教育我们如何维护好绿卡,赞美东航按章办事,签证买单程机票会被海关拦.... 所有这些,能帮助我们逾期一年多,不到2年的家人顺利回美吗?
不能,就像某人说的,早点撤了,别影响需要帮助的人获取信息。或者你们完全可以按自己的喜爱,另开一贴!




joeflacco
你这个其实不算什么,我有朋友绿卡3年多没回美国的,只要有病历翻译件公证书,海关很痛快的就放行了。
小气蔻蔻 发表于 2021-04-10 00:42

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