华尔街日报说两组科研团队都发现牛津-AZN疫苗导致了血栓 【今天丹麦两人血栓，一人已死，一人病危】

尽管EMA, WHO,UK, AZN一直说血栓与疫苗无关，但华尔街日报的文章说两组科研团队都发现疫苗导致了血栓。
https://www.wsj.com/articles/scientists-say-they-found-cause-of-blood-clotting-linked-to-astrazeneca-vaccine-11616169108

这个副作用这么厉害，和不打的risk差不多，希望美国不要批

难怪准备送给墨西哥和加拿大了

辉瑞和Moderna一样引起血栓， 不也照打。 药物都有副作用， 利大于弊就行了。
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajh.26132?af=R

墨西哥和加拿大打算收赐酒？唉，话说我还以为美国都没有这个牌子的疫苗

辉瑞和Moderna一样引起血栓， 不也照打。 药物都有副作用， 利大于弊就行了。
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajh.26132?af=R
Pompom 发表于 2021-03-19 17:29

概率不同吧

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你给的这个链接说的是ITP，和AZ疫苗接种之后发现的血栓问题不是一回事。ITP及时发现是可以治疗的，欧洲为什么这次反应这么大是因为症状确实很吓人，全身广泛血栓、内出血、血小板减少，死亡率很高，好几个还是年轻人

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你给的这个链接说的是ITP，和AZ疫苗接种之后发现的血栓问题不是一回事。ITP及时发现是可以治疗的，欧洲为什么这次反应这么大是因为症状确实很吓人，全身广泛血栓、内出血、血小板减少，死亡率很高，好几个还是年轻人
little_racoon 发表于 2021-03-19 18:30

37 out of 17 million shots administered -- was lower than what would be expected to occur naturally in a general population of that size.  没觉得很吓人。 意大利已经承认暂停疫苗是political pressure。 再说法国意大利现在第三波又lockdown了，德国也要跟进。 医院爆满死的人比打疫苗的多多了。 所有疫苗药物都有副作用， 但只要利大于弊就应该继续。
And data from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) regulator in the UK show more people have reported blood clots after having Pfizer''''s vaccine than the Oxford one — even though Pfizer''''s jab has not been suspended anywhere.
Up to February 28 there were 38 reports from approximately 11.5million doses of Pfizer''''s jab, compared to 30 from 9.7m AstraZeneca doses. However, neither figure – the equivalent of one blood clot seen in every 367,000 jabs – is thought to be higher than the risk expected in the general population. 
Chief of Italy''''s medicines regulator, Nicola Magrini, today claimed the sweeping bans across Europe were part of a politically driven snowball effect which had seen countries within the bloc come under pressure to follow suit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9366963/Coronavirus-Pfizers-Covid-vaccine-linked-blood-clots-AstraZenecas-UK.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-to-know-about-blood-clots-anaphylaxis-and-other-vaccine-fears/2021/03/15/a4c6bee6-858b-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html

今天看到的新闻都是说很多国家又开始重新打了，说没事。不过本地论坛有人说去了如果是AZ的，他就带全家回家。。。

37 out of 17 million shots administered -- was lower than what would be expected to occur naturally in a general population of that size.  没觉得很吓人。 意大利已经承认暂停疫苗是political pressure。 再说法国意大利现在第三波又lockdown了，德国也要跟进。 医院爆满死的人比打疫苗的多多了。 所有疫苗药物都有副作用， 但只要利大于弊就应该继续。
And data from the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) regulator in the UK show more people have reported blood clots after having Pfizer''''s vaccine than the Oxford one — even though Pfizer''''s jab has not been suspended anywhere.
Up to February 28 there were 38 reports from approximately 11.5million doses of Pfizer''''s jab, compared to 30 from 9.7m AstraZeneca doses. However, neither figure – the equivalent of one blood clot seen in every 367,000 jabs – is thought to be higher than the risk expected in the general population. 
Chief of Italy''''s medicines regulator, Nicola Magrini, today claimed the sweeping bans across Europe were part of a politically driven snowball effect which had seen countries within the bloc come under pressure to follow suit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9366963/Coronavirus-Pfizers-Covid-vaccine-linked-blood-clots-AstraZenecas-UK.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-to-know-about-blood-clots-anaphylaxis-and-other-vaccine-fears/2021/03/15/a4c6bee6-858b-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html
Pompom 发表于 2021-03-19 20:19

是的，从公共健康的角度来讲肯定是利大于弊，但是这么一折腾这个疫苗的接受程度会很成问题。

今天丹麦两人血栓，一人已死，一人病危
https://www.newsweek.com/denmark-reports-one-death-after-use-astrazeneca-vaccine-will-maintain-suspension-1577577