搜了下到2月截止,headache只有391,death有953,这个数据肯定不全而且不准确,CDC自己说: VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
搜了下到2月截止,headache只有391,death有953,这个数据肯定不全而且不准确,CDC自己说: VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind. Seeking668 发表于 2021-03-07 16:49
这是从最乐观的角度看,从最不乐观的角度看,大部分case都不会被上报,上报到VAERS的case只有1%-10%的,实际数字需要乘以10-100。大家还是meet in the middle吧。
Note: Submitting a report to VAERS does not mean that healthcare personnel or the vaccine caused or contributed to the adverse event (possible side effect).
是所有不良反应中的20%,不是总人数的20%
如果一星期1000多万人接种疫苗,那这数据应该是一周的数据吧,不是总计
总共报道的AE 事件有二万五千左右,其中emergency占这些events的20%。打的人现在应该有几千万了,所以打完疫苗去急救的比例非常低。
大家自己去search吧
VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
这是从最乐观的角度看,从最不乐观的角度看,大部分case都不会被上报,上报到VAERS的case只有1%-10%的,实际数字需要乘以10-100。大家还是meet in the middle吧。
吐了,你谁啊?包子的马甲?
楼主的1153死亡数据不是一周死亡人数而是从疫苗开打到二月底总共报备的死亡人数。
2021年1月数据
2 报备的事件不等于一定是由接种疫苗引起的
Note: Submitting a report to VAERS does not mean that healthcare personnel or the vaccine caused or contributed to the adverse event (possible side effect).
我不知道这些数据上报的标准是什么,但这数字太少,很难相信一个月死的人数只有1千多。这样下去,美国人口要爆炸了。美国现在有3亿多人,这3亿人在今后的100年内都要死光,这就是平均每年要死3百多万人,也就是平均每天要死1万人。现在8千万人打了疫苗,也就是说,再打过疫苗的人里面每天至少要死2,500人。我就不懂这1150人的数据代表什么了。
1153不是死的人总数而是有人接种后死了被怀疑是和接种有关就到CDC这个网站报备了
那这么小的数字也不直接说明啥问题,不知道CDC是不是会调查一下。
这就是问题所在。8000万人打了疫苗,按概率来说当天就死的就有几千人,这些人至少都得调查一下才完整。如果前面加了一层筛选,那这就有主观因素或者流程因素在里面。到底什么条件下死的才会被这个数据统计到,这个cdc完全可以在流程上控制。别忘了cdc在流程上是有前科的,去年年初的时候cdc规定没有去过中国的不测新冠,直接导致纽约结界一个都没有,对后来新冠在纽约大爆发得负责任。
我猜接种后如果某一类疾病发病率或死亡率高于背景发病率或死亡率CDC或疫苗生产厂家就会调查
我觉得死因判断是由抢救医院或本地政府验尸部门负责的,确定死因和接种有关后他们会上这个网站登记数据。CDC这个网站只是负责收集资料的,我没听到过他们会把登记的数据进行筛选。另外这个网站好像也面向公众,死者家属或朋友如果觉得死因和接种有关也可以登记数据。