炒股票可以用退休账户吗?

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ezsmiling
楼主 (北美华人网)
比如持股几个月的那种。退休账户(traditional IRA 或Roth IRA) 跟普通投资账户相比,哪个对税收更优惠?
小马和小猴
可以啊 无税的账户随便折腾
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SalinaMing
如果退休账户可以连BROKERAGE,当然是再退休账户里面瞎折腾,没有任何税得影响。不过相应得投资账户就要做低TAX EXPOSURE得操作了。
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Geofan
I will advice anyone to use 401K. 401K needs to be conservative investment
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ezsmiling
谢谢大家。我的理解是,pre-tax Retirement account, 如401或traditional IRA, 短期收益还会按short term capital gain收税。但是税后退休账户,如Roth IRA, 其收益就可以免税了。
不知这个理解是否正确?
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SalinaMing
谢谢大家。我的理解是,pre-tax Retirement account, 如401或traditional IRA, 短期收益还会按short term capital gain收税。但是税后退休账户,如Roth IRA, 其收益就可以免税了。
不知这个理解是否正确?
ezsmiling 发表于 2021-02-13 14:52

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yoyo2007
谢谢大家。我的理解是,pre-tax Retirement account, 如401或traditional IRA, 短期收益还会按short term capital gain收税。但是税后退休账户,如Roth IRA, 其收益就可以免税了。
不知这个理解是否正确?
ezsmiling 发表于 2021-02-13 14:52

应该不正确。 pre-tax账户如果不是很快要开始取钱出来,怎么折腾也没有税的问题。赚了不交gain税,但是赔了也不能claim loss。
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pineappletin
我就用无税账户
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ezsmiling
谢谢大家。又做了一下功课,应该是traditional IRA 会延迟在取出时才算收入税,Roth IRA则不须付任何gain tax或distribution tax.
In a traditional IRA, sales of investments inside your retirement account have no immediate tax impact. Any gain is deferred, and for traditional IRAs, any tax on that gain or other elements of the account''s income isn''t due until money is withdrawn. Moreover, at that point, the IRS no longer cares whether the income generated was short-term or long-term in nature; it will charge the ordinary income tax rate regardless.
Roth IRAs add tax-free treatment to the mix. You don''t get an up-front deduction for Roth IRA contributions, but the payback is that there''s no tax on distributions in the future, either. Therefore you never pay taxes on short-term or long-term gains in a Roth IRA. The whole question is rendered moot.
https://www.fool.com/knowledge-center/roth-ira-short-term-gains-vs-long-term-gains.aspx
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joinlily
我就用IRA炒股, 收益不收税。
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jchen36
我用401K,每天进出多次。等以后退休再说。
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paradoxlove
我用401K,每天进出多次。等以后退休再说。
jchen36 发表于 2021-02-14 02:17

401K账户买卖股票要2天SETTLE,你怎么进出多次?CASH足够?
饭饭
401K账户买卖股票要2天SETTLE,你怎么进出多次?CASH足够?
paradoxlove 发表于 2021-02-14 02:25

limited margin
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damiloveu
据我了解Rollover和Roth IRA是可以直接投资股票的,401K需要额外开启broker link功能(每年要交100美金)才可以直接买股票。
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Geofan
你到时候不要股市赔了心疼就行。401K本来就是求稳养老用的,投资顾问都是建议不要轻易用来追求风险投资。
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forregistuse
你到时候不要股市赔了心疼就行。401K本来就是求稳养老用的,投资顾问都是建议不要轻易用来追求风险投资。
Geofan 发表于 2021-02-14 10:07

不投资不够养老的
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bajiushizhihua
可以
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paradoxlove
limited margin
饭饭 发表于 2021-02-14 02:51

咋申请的,fidelity brokeragelink并不支持margin
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yolandos
on the flip side, if you lose big in your 401K/IRA, you don't get to write off 3K a year for 100 years. Everyone here seemed to assume the market always go up indifinitely and housing price too?
饭饭
咋申请的,fidelity brokeragelink并不支持margin
paradoxlove 发表于 2021-02-14 14:07

fidelity的我不清楚,好像得打电话开通,需要账号一直保持2.5W以上额度,etrade的直接网上开通。
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ray_golden
不够累的,30年拿住voo比自己瞎折腾强多了