用sex toy刺激阴蒂多了会不会不好?

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jjnn2020
楼主 (北美华人网)
先赞下版主 鼓励大家有疑问就说出来 我发现如果停用跳蛋一阵子,再开始用的时候阴蒂会特别敏感。 并且不知道我是不是习惯了阴蒂高潮,男票明明技巧什么的都很好,我还是很难阴道高潮 有经验的姐妹们能说说吗
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tidewater
先赞下版主 鼓励大家有疑问就说出来 我发现如果停用跳蛋一阵子,再开始用的时候阴蒂会特别敏感。 并且不知道我是不是习惯了阴蒂高潮,男票明明技巧什么的都很好,我还是很难阴道高潮 有经验的姐妹们能说说吗

jjnn2020 发表于 2020-12-27 23:08

波浪模式、适当加上休止符、还有切分节奏。
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wenxuecity0824
先赞下版主 鼓励大家有疑问就说出来 我发现如果停用跳蛋一阵子,再开始用的时候阴蒂会特别敏感。 并且不知道我是不是习惯了阴蒂高潮,男票明明技巧什么的都很好,我还是很难阴道高潮 有经验的姐妹们能说说吗

jjnn2020 发表于 2020-12-27 23:08

男生能回答吗?
不要用跳蛋,用舌头舔不是更好吗?我都是先舔,一直舔到阴蒂高潮时再快速进入阴道,一波接一波。
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CuminLamb
波浪模式、适当加上休止符、还有切分节奏。
tidewater 发表于 2020-12-27 23:22

我不行,必须开到最大不停歇震动才能到。
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CuminLamb
男生能回答吗?
不要用跳蛋,用舌头舔不是更好吗?我都是先舔,一直舔到阴蒂高潮时再快速进入阴道,一波接一波。
wenxuecity0824 发表于 2020-12-27 23:25

我猜楼主意思是她自己的时候用跳蛋。
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CuminLamb
回复 1楼jjnn2020的帖子
楼主,你的问题我曾经也有,我以为是我太习惯自己满足自己,所以男人满足不了我。我还曾经自卑,责怪自己。
后来发现不怪我,水到渠成了,该高潮的时候挡都挡不住。
如果前一天我自己满足过,第二天做爱还会高潮更强烈。
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54aha
这个问题和男生手淫频率高了敏感度会不会下降应该是同一类型问题,处理方式应该也一样。
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CuminLamb
男生手淫过度会影响硬度吧?
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wenxuecity0824
我猜楼主意思是她自己的时候用跳蛋。
CuminLamb 发表于 2020-12-28 01:37

你猜得对,我没想着一层。
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xinchina
The answer? No, your vibe isn’t going to wreck your V According to professional sexologist Jill McDevitt, PhD, with CalExotics, “dead vagina syndrome” is a nonmedical, fear-mongering term invented by people who don’t really understand female masturbation, orgasms, pleasure, or vaginal and vulvar anatomy. The folks who endorse this faux diagnosis may even be worse than the ones who say they “don’t believe in lube” (cue eye roll). “Society feels and teaches women to feel uncomfortable with the idea of women experiencing pleasure for the sake of pleasure and getting themselves off,” McDevitt says. As a result, “Folks with vulvas are told that a vibrator will ‘ruin’ them for partnered sex and that they’ll be unable to orgasm in any other way,” she adds. But this is stigma, not science, speaking. “It’s a complete myth that you can desensitize your vagina or clitoris from using a vibrator,” says Dr. Carolyn DeLucia, FACOG, who’s based in Hillsborough, New Jersey. And same for vibes with more vroom than a lawn mower (trust me, I know some of those power settings are more intense than you’d think). “There should be no problem or numbness from vibrators that operate at a really high vibrator pattern or intensity,” DeLucia says. Basically, the Hitachi wand is doctor-approved. You can use it all you want — unless it legitimately hurts or you’re uncomfortable for any reason, of course. There was even a small study published in The Journal of Sexual Medicine that found that vibrators don’t have a numbing effect. The majority of vibrator users reported zip, zilch, zero adverse or negative symptoms in their genitals as a consequence. In fact, contrary to the beliefs of vibrator alarmists, there was overwhelming evidence that vibrator use contributed to positive outcomes. These included: orgasm increased lubrication decreased pain a greater likelihood of seeking gynecological checkups So vibe away, folks. McDevitt does point out that in the study, “There were a few who reported numbing sensation, [but] said that feeling went away within a day.” Clinical sexologist Megan Stubbs, Ed.D, compares temporary numbness after vibrator use to the numbness your arm might experience after cutting grass or holding a Theragun. “It doesn’t last forever. With any kind of intense stimulation, your body just needs some time to reset and recover,” she says. Same goes for sex. Great news for vibrator lovers. If you’re numb, the vice still isn’t your vibe If you’re a regular vibrator user and notice a loss in sensitivity, Stubbs says it’s likely something else and not your handheld buzzer to blame. Even worrying that your vibrator is going to interfere with your ability to enjoy tech-free partnered sex could be what’s keeping you from getting off. “For folks with vulvas, so much of the orgasm comes from the brain, and stress about orgasming is a major roadblock,” McDevitt says. Yep, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Still, DeLucia suggests booking an appointment with your OB-GYN if you’re experiencing numbness of the clitoris, vulva, or another part of your vagina. Things like stress, depression, medication, or another underlying health condition can all squash your sensitivity, so it’s important to find out what’s desensitizing you downstairs.
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xinchina
Still can’t orgasm during partnered sex? First, breathe. That’s normal. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything is wrong. “Only about 10 percent of women climax easily,” DeLucia says. “And most women aren’t able to climax with/from penetrative sex alone and need direct clitoral stimulation to climax.” So, sometimes vibrators are more effective because they provide that stimulation and then some. DeLucia says that’s actually why some women are able to orgasm with the toy but not a partner. It’s not the touch that’s interfering with the O, exactly; it’s the place of touch, she says. So, if your clit is typically kicked to the sidelines during game time (aka penetrative sex), bring that baby in for backup. That may mean using your hand or asking your partner to use their hand. But it may also mean bringing in your buzzy boo into the mix, too. Either way, just make sure your clitoris is getting some attention so you can get off. “I know nobody is pulling a vibrator out during movie sex, but movie sex isn’t real-life sex!,” Stubbs says. “Many women do require a vibe to get off with their partners, and nobody should ever, ever shame you for that.” Vibe shame? Not in my house. The takeaway The good news is you don’t need to worry about vibrator-induced numbness. The bad news? “The issue usually isn’t about numbness or desensitizing. The issue is people’s discomfort with females’ pleasure and misunderstandings of anatomy,” McDevitt says. The stigma of female pleasure may be lessening, but we still have a ways to go. So sit back, relax, and enjoy that vibrator for as long (or for as many orgasms) as you want. 原文来自: https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/overusing-vibrator-sensitivity#If-youre-numb,-the-vice-still-isnt-your-vibe
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xinchina
我第一次用一个玩具,跟第一百次用,每次的高潮的时间,长度,感受都会不一样。如果时间很长,是该怪自己不敏感了,还是应该换个角度说我今天身体可以享受更久呢? 每个人的敏感度不一样,敏感是从谁的角度去看?男性吗?男人都喜欢敏感的吗?有没有想过为什么呢? 敏感是和谁比较,别的女人吗?还是过去的自己,处女时的自己吗? 比如以前看什么书都觉得写得好,现在不了,难说是思想没以前敏感了吗? 在我看来只要有途径能高潮,敏感这件事就不值得concern,我的身体和心理都在变化,他需要花更多心思去适应我的变化,不是我保持十八的敏感和心智。
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juliadjh
我觉得不会,甚至觉得比没用前更敏感了。用多了更知道自己需要什么角度什么频率,更了解自己。可以每次换不同的角度不同的模式,每次感觉都不一样,就特别满足(感觉睡了不同的男人。。)
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MeekSarah
The answer? No, your vibe isn’t going to wreck your V According to professional sexologist Jill McDevitt, PhD, with CalExotics, “dead vagina syndrome” is a nonmedical, fear-mongering term invented by people who don’t really understand female masturbation, orgasms, pleasure, or vaginal and vulvar anatomy. The folks who endorse this faux diagnosis may even be worse than the ones who say they “don’t believe in lube” (cue eye roll). “Society feels and teaches women to feel uncomfortable with the idea of women experiencing pleasure for the sake of pleasure and getting themselves off,” McDevitt says. As a result, “Folks with vulvas are told that a vibrator will ‘ruin’ them for partnered sex and that they’ll be unable to orgasm in any other way,” she adds. But this is stigma, not science, speaking. “It’s a complete myth that you can desensitize your vagina or clitoris from using a vibrator,” says Dr. Carolyn DeLucia, FACOG, who’s based in Hillsborough, New Jersey. And same for vibes with more vroom than a lawn mower (trust me, I know some of those power settings are more intense than you’d think). “There should be no problem or numbness from vibrators that operate at a really high vibrator pattern or intensity,” DeLucia says. Basically, the Hitachi wand is doctor-approved. You can use it all you want — unless it legitimately hurts or you’re uncomfortable for any reason, of course. There was even a small study published in The Journal of Sexual Medicine that found that vibrators don’t have a numbing effect. The majority of vibrator users reported zip, zilch, zero adverse or negative symptoms in their genitals as a consequence. In fact, contrary to the beliefs of vibrator alarmists, there was overwhelming evidence that vibrator use contributed to positive outcomes. These included: orgasm increased lubrication decreased pain a greater likelihood of seeking gynecological checkups So vibe away, folks. McDevitt does point out that in the study, “There were a few who reported numbing sensation, [but] said that feeling went away within a day.” Clinical sexologist Megan Stubbs, Ed.D, compares temporary numbness after vibrator use to the numbness your arm might experience after cutting grass or holding a Theragun. “It doesn’t last forever. With any kind of intense stimulation, your body just needs some time to reset and recover,” she says. Same goes for sex. Great news for vibrator lovers. If you’re numb, the vice still isn’t your vibe If you’re a regular vibrator user and notice a loss in sensitivity, Stubbs says it’s likely something else and not your handheld buzzer to blame. Even worrying that your vibrator is going to interfere with your ability to enjoy tech-free partnered sex could be what’s keeping you from getting off. “For folks with vulvas, so much of the orgasm comes from the brain, and stress about orgasming is a major roadblock,” McDevitt says. Yep, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Still, DeLucia suggests booking an appointment with your OB-GYN if you’re experiencing numbness of the clitoris, vulva, or another part of your vagina. Things like stress, depression, medication, or another underlying health condition can all squash your sensitivity, so it’s important to find out what’s desensitizing you downstairs.
xinchina 发表于 2020-12-28 08:01

谢谢楼上两位版主的个人经历和 research 资料科普 分享!
我在这疑问上没有资格回应,因为我连甚么高潮都从来没有过。lol....
我比较好食懒做,嘻嘻。我早就看到这主题,只是在等版主花了资源做research 后带回来这么有信用的资料分享后,我再来阅读学习。版主 @xinchina 的确有做 research 的能力还有乐于分享 research result 来助人的精神,在下佩服,如同我佩服我先生在这方面的能力与以正面助人的精神!
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MeekSarah
我第一次用一个玩具,跟第一百次用,每次的高潮的时间,长度,感受都会不一样。如果时间很长,是该怪自己不敏感了,还是应该换个角度说我今天身体可以享受更久呢? 每个人的敏感度不一样,敏感是从谁的角度去看?男性吗?男人都喜欢敏感的吗?有没有想过为什么呢? 敏感是和谁比较,别的女人吗?还是过去的自己,处女时的自己吗? 比如以前看什么书都觉得写得好,现在不了,难说是思想没以前敏感了吗? 在我看来只要有途径能高潮,敏感这件事就不值得concern,我的身体和心理都在变化,他需要花更多心思去适应我的变化,不是我保持十八的敏感和心智。
xinchina 发表于 2020-12-28 08:22

very good attitude。 我先生会很喜欢我多跟你交流。提起我先生,他虽然「大男人」但绝对不是那些带着「自卑又自大」思维来到两性关系中的「大男人」。虽然他跟我这段关系,从负面来看,我估计应该给他带来挫败感最高,因为我是他性爱了最久都没有高潮的女人。但他没有这样负面的想,从来没有怪我不敏感,也没有负面影响到他享受性爱过程。他是第一个人这么教我的:「人最大的性器官就是脑袋。」我懒做research 嘛,所以只靠他给的research 资料来带领我,教导我性知识,加给我性经验。
他是第一位鼓励我上来像这类探讨两性关系的forums向其她女性学习如何自我帮助提升自己得高潮的机会。 我先生叫我问有高潮经验的女人,教我如何把我的体感经思维转译成高潮。他说因他不是女人,他不能教我。 我先生对我说:他很享受我,而我的享受对他来说同样重要! 我听到我先生如此说,我好心窝喔! 有时我甚至怀疑我自己到底是否有上天赐既那种 独身无性既恩赐? 我先生不信我有性冷感。
性事,是彼此之间另一个模式的爱。所以不一定有高潮,我觉得彼此之间的爱已经好足够了。
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jjnn2020
回复 11楼xinchina的帖子
赞版主的钻研精神!谢谢! 我担心敏感也不是为了男银 阴道高潮主要爽的是自己啊😂
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jjnn2020
回复 3楼wenxuecity0824的帖子
我男票有时也用舌头 能问下如果女方觉得跳蛋比舌头更刺激 你会觉得受挫吗
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jjnn2020
回复 6楼CuminLamb的帖子
哇 谢谢!回头我拉着男票试试
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tidewater
回复 6楼CuminLamb的帖子
哇 谢谢!回头我拉着男票试试
jjnn2020 发表于 2020-12-28 13:30

这跟玩具本身关系不大,跟玩的频率有关。
就好比男生如果每天做两次,每次半小时 PiV,那五天之后也会不那么容易硬。这跟阳痿无关。
找到你们自己的 Nash 平衡点就行。
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tidewater
回复 3楼wenxuecity0824的帖子
我男票有时也用舌头 能问下如果女方觉得跳蛋比舌头更刺激 你会觉得受挫吗
jjnn2020 发表于 2020-12-28 13:30

我不会。实际上我不喜欢给口。我宁可给女生唱个歌。或者吹个黑管萨克斯(当然器乐现在荒废了)。
我以前是校艺术团的。还是有自信能躲过被迫口的这一劫。:-P
我个人更乐于女生用玩具,因为我也能在 PiV 的同时享受。
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xinchina
回复 16楼jjnn2020的帖子
那就好,我觉得男人其实可能会担心玩具取代自己,但是事实证明,喜欢玩具的女人也很喜欢阳具哈哈哈
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xinchina
回复 15楼MeekSarah的帖子
我也觉得自大的人其实都很自卑。
我相信你高潮那一天迟早会来的,可能来的那一天,你会发现也不过如此,也可能mind blowing,让你觉得所有的等待都很值得。
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wenxuecity0824
回复 3楼wenxuecity0824的帖子
我男票有时也用舌头 能问下如果女方觉得跳蛋比舌头更刺激 你会觉得受挫吗
jjnn2020 发表于 2020-12-28 13:30

应该会吧。别说是跳蛋,就是这次不如上次都觉得受挫。
有过一次经历,舔了一个多小时,她都没有征兆,很受挫,自己也软了。
这次圣诞节特别完美,我精心换了所有衣服,上上下下清清爽爽,感觉自己挺感性的,呵呵。
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MeekSarah
回复 22楼xinchina的帖子
lol.... 承妳貴言!
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wenxuecity0824
回复 22楼xinchina的帖子
lol.... 承妳貴言!
MeekSarah 发表于 2020-12-28 16:00

的确像领导在做战前动员,给战士们鼓劲儿。
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xinchina
我看这个贴又上首页了,可见很多人都有这个疑问。我第一次买玩具时,也有同样的问题,在网上搜索过,虽然知道没事儿,可也还是有心理负担,前些年会瞒着对方使用。
人类靠地图和记忆开车,vs现在用gps开车,大脑确实会发生变化。可是这种变化不会给我们带来问题,因为科技一直都会在,而且还在进步。玩具,永远取代不了爱,大家放心用吧。
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PAPAPAPAPA
用Toy多了会影响私处观感是真的。认识的一个韩国妹妹一直用Toy,阴蒂会比较突出,真的很突出,像花生仁那么大。我第一次见有点惊讶,但是控制住了表情。一次云雨之后问她用了多久的Toy了。她说“大概三年了吧。我妈要给我买,说我单身久了会有精神问题。我说妈你不用操心,我懂。”听着我好尴尬。结果她就把toy锁在柜子里,每次不让妈妈打扫房间
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tidewater
用Toy多了会影响私处观感是真的。认识的一个韩国妹妹一直用Toy,阴蒂会比较突出,真的很突出,像花生仁那么大。我第一次见有点惊讶,但是控制住了表情。一次云雨之后问她用了多久的Toy了。她说“大概三年了吧。我妈要给我买,说我单身久了会有精神问题。我说妈你不用操心,我懂。”听着我好尴尬。结果她就把toy锁在柜子里,每次不让妈妈打扫房间
PAPAPAPAPA 发表于 2020-12-28 17:26

更可能是天生的,让 toy 背锅。
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xinchina
回复 27楼PAPAPAPAPA的帖子
阴蒂和阴茎一样,有size的不同,也有包皮的不同。
身体本就是用来愉悦自己的,不是给他人评判用的。come as you are 书里说多大都正常,多小也都正常,包在里面正常,不包着也正常。书里有个人的例子比花生大多了,咨询后知道这是非常正常的现象。

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xinchina
回复 28楼tidewater的帖子
同意,没有证据表明以前更小
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otokorashii_onna
我自己看过research是说短期内sensitivity有可能被影响,没有长期影响(或者,至少还没有证据显示)。
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xinchina
回复 31楼otokorashii_onna的帖子
是的,短期只是个把小时或者一两天。高潮后确实不喜欢再被刺激,但是别的点还是可以的。
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summerxx719
very good attitude。 我先生会很喜欢我多跟你交流。提起我先生,他虽然「大男人」但绝对不是那些带着「自卑又自大」思维来到两性关系中的「大男人」。虽然他跟我这段关系,从负面来看,我估计应该给他带来挫败感最高,因为我是他性爱了最久都没有高潮的女人。但他没有这样负面的想,从来没有怪我不敏感,也没有负面影响到他享受性爱过程。他是第一个人这么教我的:「人最大的性器官就是脑袋。」我懒做research 嘛,所以只靠他给的research 资料来带领我,教导我性知识,加给我性经验。
他是第一位鼓励我上来像这类探讨两性关系的forums向其她女性学习如何自我帮助提升自己得高潮的机会。 我先生叫我问有高潮经验的女人,教我如何把我的体感经思维转译成高潮。他说因他不是女人,他不能教我。 我先生对我说:他很享受我,而我的享受对他来说同样重要! 我听到我先生如此说,我好心窝喔! 有时我甚至怀疑我自己到底是否有上天赐既那种 独身无性既恩赐? 我先生不信我有性冷感。
性事,是彼此之间另一个模式的爱。所以不一定有高潮,我觉得彼此之间的爱已经好足够了。
MeekSarah 发表于 2020-12-28 11:04


每个字都认识,连起来硬是没读懂。。。奇了怪了 好心窝是啥意思啊,晕
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wenxuecity0824

每个字都认识,连起来硬是没读懂。。。奇了怪了 好心窝是啥意思啊,晕
summerxx719 发表于 2020-12-28 19:18

很奇怪,我能读懂她的贴子,长的也懂,反而版主个别繁长的贴子读不懂。
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xinchina
回复 33楼summerxx719的帖子
如果没记错,Sarah 提过她有asperger syndrome,我觉得她写得非常好,让人惊叹的坦诚,同时也非常touching,至少对我来说非常有启发。我自己因为有熟人也有asperger,所以有所了解,相比之下,我更觉得这个女性很了不起。
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aiche
谢谢楼上两位版主的个人经历和 research 资料科普 分享!
我在这疑问上没有资格回应,因为我连甚么高潮都从来没有过。lol....
我比较好食懒做,嘻嘻。我早就看到这主题,只是在等版主花了资源做research 后带回来这么有信用的资料分享后,我再来阅读学习。版主 @xinchina 的确有做 research 的能力还有乐于分享 research result 来助人的精神,在下佩服,如同我佩服我先生在这方面的能力与以正面助人的精神!

MeekSarah 发表于 2020-12-28 10:47

整天把个老公挂个你的x唇上,让我觉的要么你是个WSN冒充女人,要么就是个斯徳哥尔摩病号。
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xinchina
回复 36楼aiche的帖子
你应该是对asperger syndrome不了解,是一种高功能自闭。在我们评判一个人的时候,先要想想自己有没有不了解的信息。我们永远都不会有所有的信息,所以,不要去评判。
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tidewater
回复 36楼aiche的帖子
你应该是对asperger syndrome不了解,是一种高功能自闭。在我们评判一个人的时候,先要想想自己有没有不了解的信息。我们永远都不会有所有的信息,所以,不要去评判。
xinchina 发表于 2020-12-28 21:21

这个有时也很好笑。我一直以为我自己有轻微阿斯伯格。直到有娃之后才发现我自己可能是 high sensitive。
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xinchina
回复 38楼tidewater的帖子
有可能两个都有吗?还是这个不会重合。
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tidewater
回复 38楼tidewater的帖子
有可能两个都有吗?还是这个不会重合。
xinchina 发表于 2020-12-28 21:33

我说的 high sensitive,不是指 sensory ,而是指 cognitive。
阿斯伯格无法 empathy emotion,有可能 high sensitive 但那是 sensory 的 high sensitive。
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oceanseal11
use it every day since work from home this year...watch porn and play...just enjoy it....
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maijia2020
跳蛋和magic wand用了10多年了,最近两年感觉越来越不敏感。跳蛋已经没啥感觉,magic wand还OK,阴地高潮远没有以前激烈,也有可能是年龄大了的原因。阴道高潮才能满足,可惜没有找到好的玩具,家里那位无法被玩具替代了,哈哈。
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xinchina
回复 41楼oceanseal11的帖子
每天都有能兴致?good for you
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yilinna
弱弱的问一下什么是“跳骚”? 最好给个链接
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ZMM19
男生能回答吗?
不要用跳蛋,用舌头舔不是更好吗?我都是先舔,一直舔到阴蒂高潮时再快速进入阴道,一波接一波。
wenxuecity0824 发表于 2020-12-27 23:25

NPY用舌头舔几乎每次都会有阴蒂高潮,但是几乎没有体会过阴道高潮,我觉得他尺寸和硬度都没有问题,两人感情也很好。特别希望能享受阴道高潮的爽快,看了之前帖子的建议偷偷买了一个小兔子震动玩具,又担心他会有受挫的感觉,犹豫要不要拿出来一起玩。请问有什么建议吗谢谢!
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wenxuecity0824
NPY用舌头舔几乎每次都会有阴蒂高潮,但是几乎没有体会过阴道高潮,我觉得他尺寸和硬度都没有问题,两人感情也很好。特别希望能享受阴道高潮的爽快,看了之前帖子的建议偷偷买了一个小兔子震动玩具,又担心他会有受挫的感觉,犹豫要不要拿出来一起玩。请问有什么建议吗谢谢!
ZMM19 发表于 2020-12-30 00:26

我的建议就是你们先聊天,探探是否可行。
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wenxuecity0824
弱弱的问一下什么是“跳骚”? 最好给个链接
yilinna 发表于 2020-12-29 09:55

是“跳蛋”
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tidewater
NPY用舌头舔几乎每次都会有阴蒂高潮,但是几乎没有体会过阴道高潮,我觉得他尺寸和硬度都没有问题,两人感情也很好。特别希望能享受阴道高潮的爽快,看了之前帖子的建议偷偷买了一个小兔子震动玩具,又担心他会有受挫的感觉,犹豫要不要拿出来一起玩。请问有什么建议吗谢谢!
ZMM19 发表于 2020-12-30 00:26

层主自己先偷偷用。有些女生不喜欢 penetrative toy 的。万一层主自己都不喜欢用,就不用跟男生说了。多一事不如少一事。