相信专家，当然不是你。 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-transmitted-by-frozen-foods-unlikely#A-fragile-virus “As of now, there is no evidence of transmission from packaging, particularly frozen food packaging, to humans,” Amira Roess, PhD, MPH, a professor of global health and epidemiology at George Mason University in Virginia, told Healthline. “In one report, over 200,000 frozen food samples were tested for COVID-19, and one came back positive. Based on current data, the amount of virus found on packaging is likely not enough to pose a risk for humans,” she added. Chinese officials have been screening some frozen food packaging for signs of the virus following their scare with the since-exonerated frozen Norwegian salmon in June. Recently, they found some of the virus’s genetic material on a package of chicken wings from Brazil and frozen seafood from Ecuador and elsewhere. But that genetic material only means the virus was there, not necessarily that it was still viable and active on the packaging — or in sufficient quantities to cause infection. 另外中国那所谓冷链包装分离病毒只见新闻不见论文，只在领导嘴里听过，数据是什么，怎么论证的？要糊弄群众也不是这么个忽悠法。
相信专家，当然不是你。 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-transmitted-by-frozen-foods-unlikely#A-fragile-virus “As of now, there is no evidence of transmission from packaging, particularly frozen food packaging, to humans,” Amira Roess, PhD, MPH, a professor of global health and epidemiology at George Mason University in Virginia, told Healthline. “In one report, over 200,000 frozen food samples were tested for COVID-19, and one came back positive. Based on current data, the amount of virus found on packaging is likely not enough to pose a risk for humans,” she added. Chinese officials have been screening some frozen food packaging for signs of the virus following their scare with the since-exonerated frozen Norwegian salmon in June. Recently, they found some of the virus’s genetic material on a package of chicken wings from Brazil and frozen seafood from Ecuador and elsewhere. But that genetic material only means the virus was there, not necessarily that it was still viable and active on the packaging — or in sufficient quantities to cause infection. 另外中国那所谓冷链包装分离病毒只见新闻不见论文，只在领导嘴里听过，数据是什么，怎么论证的？要糊弄群众也不是这么个忽悠法。 彩虹糖zy2431 发表于 2020-11-23 22:11
相信专家，当然不是你。 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-transmitted-by-frozen-foods-unlikely#A-fragile-virus “As of now, there is no evidence of transmission from packaging, particularly frozen food packaging, to humans,” Amira Roess, PhD, MPH, a professor of global health and epidemiology at George Mason University in Virginia, told Healthline. “In one report, over 200,000 frozen food samples were tested for COVID-19, and one came back positive. Based on current data, the amount of virus found on packaging is likely not enough to pose a risk for humans,” she added. Chinese officials have been screening some frozen food packaging for signs of the virus following their scare with the since-exonerated frozen Norwegian salmon in June. Recently, they found some of the virus’s genetic material on a package of chicken wings from Brazil and frozen seafood from Ecuador and elsewhere. But that genetic material only means the virus was there, not necessarily that it was still viable and active on the packaging — or in sufficient quantities to cause infection. 另外中国那所谓冷链包装分离病毒只见新闻不见论文，只在领导嘴里听过，数据是什么，怎么论证的？要糊弄群众也不是这么个忽悠法。 彩虹糖zy2431 发表于 2020-11-23 22:11
相信专家，当然不是你。 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-transmitted-by-frozen-foods-unlikely#A-fragile-virus “As of now, there is no evidence of transmission from packaging, particularly frozen food packaging, to humans,” Amira Roess, PhD, MPH, a professor of global health and epidemiology at George Mason University in Virginia, told Healthline. “In one report, over 200,000 frozen food samples were tested for COVID-19, and one came back positive. Based on current data, the amount of virus found on packaging is likely not enough to pose a risk for humans,” she added. Chinese officials have been screening some frozen food packaging for signs of the virus following their scare with the since-exonerated frozen Norwegian salmon in June. Recently, they found some of the virus’s genetic material on a package of chicken wings from Brazil and frozen seafood from Ecuador and elsewhere. But that genetic material only means the virus was there, not necessarily that it was still viable and active on the packaging — or in sufficient quantities to cause infection. 另外中国那所谓冷链包装分离病毒只见新闻不见论文，只在领导嘴里听过，数据是什么，怎么论证的？要糊弄群众也不是这么个忽悠法。 彩虹糖zy2431 发表于 2020-11-23 22:11
呵呵，这些人没去做实验就拍脑子呗。不去找当然没有数据。 中国在进口鳕鱼包装上分离到活病毒。其他国家都没去大规模检测过，当然不会有数据。 A total of 2.98 million samples had been tested across the country's 24 provincial-level regions by Sept 15, including 670,000 taken from cold-chain food or food packaging, 1.24 million from working staff and 1.07 million from the environment. Only 22 samples from cold-chain food or food packaging tested positive for the virus, the China CDC said. Then, last month, when tracing the source of an outbreak in the city of Qingdao, the Chinese CDC announced it had detected and isolated live coronavirus on the packaging of imported frozen cod fish -- a discovery it said was the "world's first" and "confirmed that contact with outer packaging contaminated by live novel coronavirus can cause infection." 病毒在物体表面存活是无数实验证明过的，也是为什么一直强调洗手，别碰触脸鼻口眼，防止传播。 低温下病毒存活时间更长也是生物学常识，寄送保存生物制品关键就是低温，越低越稳定。长久保存的生物样品，细菌，病毒，细胞需要在零下二十度，八十度，甚至液氮里。温度越低保存越久。According to the WHO, coronaviruses in general are very stable in a frozen state, and studies have even shown survival for up to two years at -4°F. 理论上存在可能性，实践上，中国在冷冻食品包装表面分离到了活病毒。 这些专家迟早要修正他们拍脑子的观点的。
集装器是个什么鬼？留给共产党甩锅的东西已经不多了
新冠到底怎么来的都没有共识，在没有任何base理论基础上推理，不是空中楼阁吗？
变异到底是什么鬼？到底怎么变，变了传染性，毒性是不是一样，科学家有概念吗？
你不就是在国内的？这版上翻墙来的还是啥新鲜事吗？
亚马逊一家企业，就有2万人确诊。。。主要就是仓储运输部分。。 Amazon said nearly 20,000 workers got coronavirus https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/tech/amazon-covid-cases/index.html
这叫没爆发？
或许在美国每天20万确诊下，这不算啥。。 但按照比例，按照中国每天货物进出口量，偶尔通过类似渠道感染几个不是再正常不过了？
你们这些人能不能长点脑子？？？
竟然还在蹦跶，真是恶心。。
既然什么都不懂，还是劝你藏拙吧。
你不看全文的啊，那个人是浦东机场UPS的安检员，飞机啊怎么漂两星期啊？？？最近中招的好几个都是浦东机场的。这年头在机场上班也算是高危行业了
美东和美西的毒株还不一样呢，病毒是RNA，很容易变异的。所以武汉传出来后，各地的毒株都不一样
你说的这个属于正确的废话。目前的抗疫阶段，溯源是为了查清短期内的病毒来源好加以防控。你一句都是武汉来的，没错，但是毫无用处。大家现在溯源的目的不是追责，是防控，防控。就比如知道了医院有可能传染，那就加强医院防护，知道了水产可能传染，那就加强进口货物安检。典型偷换概念。
是啊，张文宏都说了好几遍了物品传播可能性很小，他不知道有物品传播的案例，结果中国每个case都是物品传播
O(∩_∩)O哈哈~。事实证明为什么海外反华势力呈现后继无人状，除了国内生活水平的提高之外，主要还是这帮人太弱智。读过一点书的人大概都怕与它们为伍。
他之前有个采访讲他拿到信和包裹都直接拆，大概是读书很少潜伏很深的反华势力。 冷链这件事是从新发地的一块切三文鱼的菜板上开始说的，楼内的忠八犬可以回顾一下当时战狼大本营新浪微博里的正常人是怎么质疑的。 我觉得有不同意见很正常，而言必“皿煮”“反华势力”“读书少”“川普”真是极其滑稽和莫名其妙啊。不愧是真理部派出来的真理本犬啊。
我买菜一向都是徒手拿冷冻食品，顶多上车了消毒一下手。拆包裹都是随意喷一下消毒水马上就拆。然而上海CDC建议清洗肉类也不要冲洗，怕病毒和水一起飞溅传染？！要给肉洗阿拉伯浴.....走火入魔了吧。
看看战狼外交部，就知道这些玩意的水平了。
前两天赵立贱说管你长五眼联盟还是十眼联盟，都给你戳瞎。
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某国真的是全世界的笑柄。
政权会平稳交接到川普第二个任期。
以为有了多猫腻做票机你们这些无毛就不用这么费力上蹿下跳了，没想到还得上人工。。。
之前甩锅三文鱼至少还知道测测砧板上有没有病毒呢。
大妈你真的不是独运轮么？你这说话自相矛盾啊？你说没人在意人家祖国，那怎么只要是中国的帖子，包括人不人权的，就能看到你呢？你很在意中国啊，你又说没人在意中国，所以？
怎么毫无用处？为啥何一说追责就炸毛？追到你头上了！你们都比生物大博还明白，什么都懂为什么不去研究一下起源问题？不提大家就忘了？防控和溯源冲突吗？是你在偷换概念。源头一句来源于北美毒株就完了，战狼们一片喝彩，好像北美毒株是北美特产一样，我是不是还要感谢他没有说出来是美国而不是加拿大？
就是说啊，请继续编
六个问号一个叹号，也不知道谁炸毛。
说这是废话，就是因为它对目前的防控毫无用处，很难理解吗。防控指的是我们想知道这一次来自集装箱还是医院系统，冷链运输还是边境人流，至于病毒是北美还是欧洲来的，我们不care。请问大家都知道了病毒最早来自武汉，能够回答以上任何一个问题吗？
我以为你们有起码的常识，看来还是高估你们了。
上次更新是南美海鲜来着。感觉国内官员们还挺有上下求索精神的😂
源头是 避震用的泡沫 ！！？？
Amazon有80几万员工，估计疫情增加online shopping 实际员工更多。并不觉得员工感染率比普通人要高。就问一句，基本清零的澳大利亚，新西兰，台湾，有哪里是跟中国一样病例跟冷链有关的？还是这些地方没有冰箱冷柜不进口？
先看立场呗。没什么好奇怪的。
你还和他们解释啥。。。立场已经摆好了，任何不同的观点都要驳倒。对于两边的铁粉都适用。
国内到底怎么防控跟我一点关系都没有，只要别害我们就好了。我就针对北美毒株这个结论，你可以不care，可是很多人都care病毒到底哪里来，到现在还没清楚呢，一提源头就有你这样的给盖盖子，不溯源永远不知道这病毒到底是怎么回事，越遮掩越要指出来。你问问国内的，大家并不知道病毒来源于武汉好吧，一句和北美毒株吻合的说法本身很恶心，以后各省各市都可以学着用了，意大利毒株，巴西毒株张嘴就来了，渐渐人们都忘了病毒到底哪来的，
同意，好听的谎言说了一圈，核心就是“我免责”“根上我无关”除了中国又冷链各种冻肉冻海鲜感染的，世界上任何一个控制的好的国家出现病例都没扯到这些不会说话的死肉上。
能啊！从火星上飘过来的。
不懂就加强学习哈。
https://docs.nextstrain.org/en/latest/learn/interpret/how-to-read-a-tree.html
这里教你怎么看进化树。
看懂了就你的问题就有答案了。
要想彻底搞明白，那就只有去修生物，生化，分子生物学课程了。
这里是没法儿给你上课的，没那个时间和精力。
再赠送一句金玉良言，不懂的，就听专家的。
相信你一定知道生病了不去修车行找机械师，对吧。
逻辑问题在于：所有证据难以证实或者证伪。 另外，北美地区有加拿大、美国、墨西哥三个国家，究竟源头是哪个国家呢？都能追溯到一个具体的集装器（题外话：集装器是什么？）了，愣是说不出具体的来源国？
不用提火星，赵战狼到时候言之凿凿地控诉美军特务二次投毒就可以了，反正败登是不会说啥的。
相信专家，当然不是你。
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/coronavirus-transmitted-by-frozen-foods-unlikely#A-fragile-virus
“As of now, there is no evidence of transmission from packaging, particularly frozen food packaging, to humans,” Amira Roess, PhD, MPH, a professor of global health and epidemiology at George Mason University in Virginia, told Healthline. “In one report, over 200,000 frozen food samples were tested for COVID-19, and one came back positive. Based on current data, the amount of virus found on packaging is likely not enough to pose a risk for humans,” she added. Chinese officials have been screening some frozen food packaging for signs of the virus following their scare with the since-exonerated frozen Norwegian salmon in June. Recently, they found some of the virus’s genetic material on a package of chicken wings from Brazil and frozen seafood from Ecuador and elsewhere. But that genetic material only means the virus was there, not necessarily that it was still viable and active on the packaging — or in sufficient quantities to cause infection. 另外中国那所谓冷链包装分离病毒只见新闻不见论文，只在领导嘴里听过，数据是什么，怎么论证的？要糊弄群众也不是这么个忽悠法。
厉害国的领导就是厉害，上通天文下通地理，无所不知。专家也是要找钟神仙这样的中医，关键是全民也都愿意被糊弄
五毛粉红只信领导
呵呵，这些人没去做实验就拍脑子呗。不去找当然没有数据。
中国在进口鳕鱼包装上分离到活病毒。其他国家都没去大规模检测过，当然不会有数据。 A total of 2.98 million samples had been tested across the country's 24 provincial-level regions by Sept 15, including 670,000 taken from cold-chain food or food packaging, 1.24 million from working staff and 1.07 million from the environment. Only 22 samples from cold-chain food or food packaging tested positive for the virus, the China CDC said.
Then, last month, when tracing the source of an outbreak in the city of Qingdao, the Chinese CDC announced it had detected and isolated live coronavirus on the packaging of imported frozen cod fish -- a discovery it said was the "world's first" and "confirmed that contact with outer packaging contaminated by live novel coronavirus can cause infection."
病毒在物体表面存活是无数实验证明过的，也是为什么一直强调洗手，别碰触脸鼻口眼，防止传播。 低温下病毒存活时间更长也是生物学常识，寄送保存生物制品关键就是低温，越低越稳定。长久保存的生物样品，细菌，病毒，细胞需要在零下二十度，八十度，甚至液氮里。温度越低保存越久。According to the WHO, coronaviruses in general are very stable in a frozen state, and studies have even shown survival for up to two years at -4°F.
理论上存在可能性，实践上，中国在冷冻食品包装表面分离到了活病毒。
这些专家迟早要修正他们拍脑子的观点的。