So, this is me, today, receiving an experimental, first in human, anti sars-cov2 vaccine. Understanding the technology, I feel comfortable the risks to me are small despite being one of the first dozen or so patients receiving it. It was an easy choice, not because I believe it will provide me with any sort of meaningful protection (vaccines are powerful public health factors because, when widely adopted, the disease is much less likely to spread between patients, not because any one patient is fully immune, plus I might get the placebo!), but because it is important for these treatments to be thoroughly and rapidly tested so that our lives can be returned to normal and people can feel safe again. The reason I am posting this is because, when these vaccines are approved, after being tested in tens of thousands of subjects like me, many of my contacts are going to be anxious about receiving those vaccines. And the internet is going to be rife with conspiracy theories about the safety and purpose of the vaccine. If that is you, I ask you to reflect back on this post, and consider that the risk to you in receiving a vaccine is both real and small. Small because having been tested in such large numbers, the risks will be well understood and transparent. Certainly those risks will be much smaller than the one I’m confronting today at the hospital. But making the sacrifice to assume this small risk benefits the society you live in enormously. It is an act of altruism you can and should feel good about doing when the time comes. 看到朋友老公的帖子我非常感动，几万人的自我牺牲精神就是为了让我们早一点用上疫苗。
So, this is me, today, receiving an experimental, first in human, anti sars-cov2 vaccine. Understanding the technology, I feel comfortable the risks to me are small despite being one of the first dozen or so patients receiving it. It was an easy choice, not because I believe it will provide me with any sort of meaningful protection (vaccines are powerful public health factors because, when widely adopted, the disease is much less likely to spread between patients, not because any one patient is fully immune, plus I might get the placebo!), but because it is important for these treatments to be thoroughly and rapidly tested so that our lives can be returned to normal and people can feel safe again. The reason I am posting this is because, when these vaccines are approved, after being tested in tens of thousands of subjects like me, many of my contacts are going to be anxious about receiving those vaccines. And the internet is going to be rife with conspiracy theories about the safety and purpose of the vaccine. If that is you, I ask you to reflect back on this post, and consider that the risk to you in receiving a vaccine is both real and small. Small because having been tested in such large numbers, the risks will be well understood and transparent. Certainly those risks will be much smaller than the one I’m confronting today at the hospital. But making the sacrifice to assume this small risk benefits the society you live in enormously. It is an act of altruism you can and should feel good about doing when the time comes. 看到朋友老公的帖子我非常感动，几万人的自我牺牲精神就是为了让我们早一点用上疫苗。 waer 发表于 2020-11-16 09:29
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小药企， 抗体快速检测随便测。 Fisher上可以卖到试剂和lancet， 一个检测不到10块。
你这个比较的不是一个水平。你是把打疫苗有可能的风险， 和必然感染新冠来比较的，但我们知道新冠的感染率不是100%，更不是得了必死，我不知道是不是记得准确，目前死亡率是0.6%吗？ 打疫苗的未知副作用回事什么，有多大副作用， 谁也不知道， mRNA疫苗虽然已经搞了很久的研究了--不是从新冠开始的哦，但迄今为止尚未有任何一只疫苗面世， 这是让很多人犹豫观望的主要原因。
这么严重？
mm请问你是自己去测的抗体吗？我参加的是pfizer的三期，每次回访都会抽血，但是血样直接寄回pfizer，他们不会告知志愿者或者测试点工作人员有没有测出抗体。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
早早去打的人就是免费的小白鼠
楼主从哪里看到关于副反应的报道，贴个个link吧。
华人上就有个mm说过，我记不得帖子了，但因为我做的专业有点相关，copy过她写的反应给同事：
“打完之后的正常免疫反应，会头晕头痛，疲劳，全身酸痛，低烧感，不是真的发烧，大概两到三天的样子。你听我描述可能没什么，混一起还是挺难受的。不经常生病的人还真的觉得那两天挺难熬。尤其第二针之后反应会加剧。我们打过的这几个都觉得，疫苗上市后第一批打过的人如果都这样感受，大家对这个疫苗的接受度肯定会更降低。- pfizer 疫苗志愿者的感受。”
就怕大家都这么想，然后没人打。。。
如果会这么大的反应，那有高血压心脏病的人估计很犹豫。
什么时候机器人也有老公了
很有可能
这些，有依据么？什么叫做双盲。。。张嘴就来
他们都不打， 你打就好了。 这样还少了几个和你争疫苗的
我是目前不会打， 难道不知道以前的疫苗都是经过起码5年以上的测试，才会投入使用吗？
这次从今年初到现在， 多少个月? 而且这次是"新方法疫苗"。。
勇者上。
作为医护人员，觉得你们真自私，医护人员要强制去打就理所当然，自己的话，就先等几年再说....
只要FDA批准了我就敢打，这个时候做人不能太自私。反正能通过FDA的疫苗，副作用肯定比得了covid要小对吧，78%的covid康复者有不同程度的心肌损伤，了解一下
我很疑惑，那天疫苗消息刚出来时听新闻里说要等三个月看各种副作用才来决定，然后第二天就听到12月第一批疫苗就可以打了，那就是不会等三个月了？
肯定的。这次时间看，疫苗像是圈钱工具。
FDA的要求是平均观察时间两个月。第一批志愿者7月底就打了疫苗，已经快四个月了。
这是常识啊，你可能完全没有接触过临床试验，对照组很多时候就是生理盐水，打完一点反应都没有，傻子才分不清自己是试验组和是对照组。
回中国也得打疫苗啊，还是没通过三期临床的；不然不怕被人骂千里投毒啊？
国内朋友劝我回国打疫苗时就说了，你们这些从海外到中国的是第一优先，来了就能打上疫苗了，还不赶紧的回来。
这些疫苗的三期临床试验早就开始了吧，我记得辉瑞最早7月份就有志愿者参与了，10月中旬就有三万人了。
算下来12月的话，离最早那批人都等了五个月了；真不放心就等到1月中旬呗，那时候也就有三万人等了三个月的结果了。
Understanding the technology, I feel comfortable the risks to me are small despite being one of the first dozen or so patients receiving it. It was an easy choice, not because I believe it will provide me with any sort of meaningful protection (vaccines are powerful public health factors because, when widely adopted, the disease is much less likely to spread between patients, not because any one patient is fully immune, plus I might get the placebo!), but because it is important for these treatments to be thoroughly and rapidly tested so that our lives can be returned to normal and people can feel safe again.
The reason I am posting this is because, when these vaccines are approved, after being tested in tens of thousands of subjects like me, many of my contacts are going to be anxious about receiving those vaccines. And the internet is going to be rife with conspiracy theories about the safety and purpose of the vaccine. If that is you, I ask you to reflect back on this post, and consider that the risk to you in receiving a vaccine is both real and small. Small because having been tested in such large numbers, the risks will be well understood and transparent. Certainly those risks will be much smaller than the one I’m confronting today at the hospital. But making the sacrifice to assume this small risk benefits the society you live in enormously. It is an act of altruism you can and should feel good about doing when the time comes. 看到朋友老公的帖子我非常感动，几万人的自我牺牲精神就是为了让我们早一点用上疫苗。
倒是啊。多谢提醒。我被这精分confuse到了都忘了这茬了。不过这样想是不是有点小阴暗哈哈。
re, I will get it for sure
不打死了最好吧
问题是人家千方百计不让自己人回去啊 正所谓祖国虐他千百遍 他待祖国如初恋 天天除了抱怨什么积极的事情也不做
我真的不敢打， 不是不相信科学， 凡事都需要时间。
其他的疫苗，能够打的，我从来都打。 但是这个，从开发到投入使用，时间太短了，我有顾虑。
哈哈，说的太好了。
美国人会打的，包括我。我家小朋友估计不打。
这也算个事吗？
真的无语，打个流感疫苗还得疼三天呢
今年也不知道是不是心理作用，感觉今年的flu shot特别疼，第二天还有点头疼发热99F。 往年可能有疼或者发热都没在意完全没印象。
说得太好了。志愿者都第一波上去为疫苗做贡献了，利己主义者在担心打针部位疼。真有拔一毛而利天下不为也的精神。
合个影，志愿者在你眼里就是“免费小白鼠”。
我倒是觉得今年流感疫苗打得特别不疼，不知道是我的家庭医生终于技术进步了，还是今年的疫苗不太一样， 今年打完了根本不像前几年胳膊酸疼好几天。
没觉得特别厉害些，和往年一样疼了一天然后就没事了。
难道真的认为现在暂时还不想打这个疫苗的ID，是因为她们怕疼吗？
就事说事，三个月的测试，就能够知道疫苗的所有副作用?
不想打的，也是他们个人的选择。
跟新冠比这点折磨算啥，那么多志愿者都上了，也没啥事，夫妻俩别一起打就行了，不打最后就迎接病毒吧，运气好没事，不好做个月子轻的
就看你自己认为那个风险大了。
如果觉得自己宅家能继续宅的住，出门继续小心翼翼，那么再等个一年半载的无所谓。 如果因为工作学习等，宅不住了，那是得病的风险大还是疫苗的风险大?
目前为止，新冠疫苗还没有证明阻断效率，也就是说，打了疫苗不发病的人，很可能还有传播性 所以以为其他人打了自己就可以不用打的人，还是小心点吧
第一批志愿者有多少人？
这个看人。我老公打了啥感觉没有。我朋友打了说感觉小病一场，还发冷在家躺着了，不过今年打肯定是值得的。
问题现在是，真的都清楚 病毒和疫苗哪个风险更大吗？? 欲速则不达，对吧。
我这里只是表达自己的想法， 不劝人打疫苗，也不劝人不打疫苗。
都是成年人，自己都有自己的想法。
我口罩继续带，勤洗手，能够做到的尽量做
看看华盛顿的一群不戴口罩的傻子，你觉得他们会打疫苗？
都不打，大家打算抵制疫苗，让新冠接着肆虐？
说实在的，我们这里不招疫苗试种志愿者。如果招，我就去报名。 也算为社会做点贡献。
我是相信推出的疫苗研发，也相信它的副作用不大。大家都打，才回让疫情停下来。谁都不打，研究疫苗意义何在。
我每年打过以后，胳膊当天都会很疼，第二天显著减轻。但是今年的不同在于打针的时候，以前打的过程很疼，今年不疼。估计是这个医生技术好。
我觉得疫苗有效，就赶紧分发，让绝大多数人打上，小孩如果担心后遗症，先不打。这样可以迅速把传播控制住，明年夏天结束前阻止病毒大范围i的传播，接下来的日子才有可能恢复正常。
否则又是一年一年，不要说健康，整个经济都会被毁了。
小孩子很快就要回学校了。你们家小朋友不去吗？
That is the problem.