还有大家共同担心的绿教难民，明年要放进来多少？炸弹性的恐怖事件为来四年会发生多少？刚签的中东和平条约要撕了吧 https://www.arabamericannews.com/2020/10/28/exclusive-qa-with-kamala-harris-ahead-of-the-election/ The metro Detroit region, like California, has a significant and historic Arab American presence. Many Arab voters come out in droves for Democratic candidates, though Arab Americans enjoy a diversity of political affiliations. Please talk of your past and present relationship with the Arab American community. KH: I’ve had the pleasure of spending time with the Arab American community in Dearborn over the course of this presidential campaign, from reading to students at Miller Elementary School to visiting Khalaf Grill just the other day. And these visits have reaffirmed my relationship with — and commitment to — the Arab American community. My parents immigrated to this country from India and Jamaica and I was raised to believe in the promise of America as a nation of immigrants. Throughout my career, I have fought to defend the rights of communities of color and immigrants, including Arab Americans. In my first speech on the floor of the Senate, I spoke out against President Trump’s attacks on immigrants, including the Muslim ban, and said that part of what makes America a great country is our history as a nation built by immigrants. This includes the contributions of the diverse Arab Americans in the Metro Detroit region. Joe and I will uphold that same commitment to immigrants if we win the White House. On day one, we will rescind the un-American Muslim travel and refugee bans and bring an end to the outrageous and immoral family separation policy. We will also raise the annual refugee admissions target to 125,000; protect Dreamers and their families and reverse the public charge rule so we can make sure that permanent resident status isn’t contingent on household income. And we will protect civil rights and root out systemic racism across our society, confronting discriminatory policies that target Arab Americans and cast entire communities under suspicion.
Many Arab voters in Dearborn and Hamtramck hold foreign policy issues important, particularly the Israel and Palestine conflict, Syria, the war on Yemen and others. What can a Biden presidency mean for lasting peace and demands for human rights in the Mid East region? Could we see an end to continued U.S. military engagements in the region? KH: Joe and I are committed to helping the people of the Arab world meet the challenges they face. The United States cannot dictate the outcomes in other countries, but we do have a responsibility to advance human rights and democratic principles on behalf of all people. We have an obligation to promote universal values and work toward a more peaceful and secure world. Joe and I also believe in the worth and value of every Palestinian and every Israeli and we will work to ensure that Palestinians and Israelis enjoy equal measures of freedom, security, prosperity and democracy. We are committed to a two-state solution, and we will oppose any unilateral steps that undermine that goal. We will also oppose annexation and settlement expansion. And we will take immediate steps to restore economic and humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people, address the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, reopen the U.S. consulate in East Jerusalem and work to reopen the PLO mission in Washington. In Syria, Joe and I will once again stand with civil society and pro-democracy partners in Syria, and help advance a political settlement where the Syrian people have a voice. We will work to protect the most vulnerable Syrians and lead the global coalition to defeat ISIS. And instead of standing by as the government of Saudi Arabia pursues disastrous, dangerous policies, including the ongoing war in Yemen, we will reassess the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia and end support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen.
还有大家共同担心的绿教难民，明年要放进来多少？炸弹性的恐怖事件为来四年会发生多少？刚签的中东和平条约要撕了吧 https://www.arabamericannews.com/2020/10/28/exclusive-qa-with-kamala-harris-ahead-of-the-election/ The metro Detroit region, like California, has a significant and historic Arab American presence. Many Arab voters come out in droves for Democratic candidates, though Arab Americans enjoy a diversity of political affiliations. Please talk of your past and present relationship with the Arab American community. KH: I’ve had the pleasure of spending time with the Arab American community in Dearborn over the course of this presidential campaign, from reading to students at Miller Elementary School to visiting Khalaf Grill just the other day. And these visits have reaffirmed my relationship with — and commitment to — the Arab American community. My parents immigrated to this country from India and Jamaica and I was raised to believe in the promise of America as a nation of immigrants. Throughout my career, I have fought to defend the rights of communities of color and immigrants, including Arab Americans. In my first speech on the floor of the Senate, I spoke out against President Trump’s attacks on immigrants, including the Muslim ban, and said that part of what makes America a great country is our history as a nation built by immigrants. This includes the contributions of the diverse Arab Americans in the Metro Detroit region. Joe and I will uphold that same commitment to immigrants if we win the White House. On day one, we will rescind the un-American Muslim travel and refugee bans and bring an end to the outrageous and immoral family separation policy. We will also raise the annual refugee admissions target to 125,000; protect Dreamers and their families and reverse the public charge rule so we can make sure that permanent resident status isn’t contingent on household income. And we will protect civil rights and root out systemic racism across our society, confronting discriminatory policies that target Arab Americans and cast entire communities under suspicion.
Many Arab voters in Dearborn and Hamtramck hold foreign policy issues important, particularly the Israel and Palestine conflict, Syria, the war on Yemen and others. What can a Biden presidency mean for lasting peace and demands for human rights in the Mid East region? Could we see an end to continued U.S. military engagements in the region? KH: Joe and I are committed to helping the people of the Arab world meet the challenges they face. The United States cannot dictate the outcomes in other countries, but we do have a responsibility to advance human rights and democratic principles on behalf of all people. We have an obligation to promote universal values and work toward a more peaceful and secure world. Joe and I also believe in the worth and value of every Palestinian and every Israeli and we will work to ensure that Palestinians and Israelis enjoy equal measures of freedom, security, prosperity and democracy. We are committed to a two-state solution, and we will oppose any unilateral steps that undermine that goal. We will also oppose annexation and settlement expansion. And we will take immediate steps to restore economic and humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people, address the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, reopen the U.S. consulate in East Jerusalem and work to reopen the PLO mission in Washington. In Syria, Joe and I will once again stand with civil society and pro-democracy partners in Syria, and help advance a political settlement where the Syrian people have a voice. We will work to protect the most vulnerable Syrians and lead the global coalition to defeat ISIS. And instead of standing by as the government of Saudi Arabia pursues disastrous, dangerous policies, including the ongoing war in Yemen, we will reassess the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia and end support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen.
https://www.arabamericannews.com/2020/10/28/exclusive-qa-with-kamala-harris-ahead-of-the-election/
The metro Detroit region, like California, has a significant and historic Arab American presence. Many Arab voters come out in droves for Democratic candidates, though Arab Americans enjoy a diversity of political affiliations. Please talk of your past and present relationship with the Arab American community.
KH: I’ve had the pleasure of spending time with the Arab American community in Dearborn over the course of this presidential campaign, from reading to students at Miller Elementary School to visiting Khalaf Grill just the other day. And these visits have reaffirmed my relationship with — and commitment to — the Arab American community. My parents immigrated to this country from India and Jamaica and I was raised to believe in the promise of America as a nation of immigrants. Throughout my career, I have fought to defend the rights of communities of color and immigrants, including Arab Americans. In my first speech on the floor of the Senate, I spoke out against President Trump’s attacks on immigrants, including the Muslim ban, and said that part of what makes America a great country is our history as a nation built by immigrants. This includes the contributions of the diverse Arab Americans in the Metro Detroit region.
Joe and I will uphold that same commitment to immigrants if we win the White House. On day one, we will rescind the un-American Muslim travel and refugee bans and bring an end to the outrageous and immoral family separation policy. We will also raise the annual refugee admissions target to 125,000; protect Dreamers and their families and reverse the public charge rule so we can make sure that permanent resident status isn’t contingent on household income. And we will protect civil rights and root out systemic racism across our society, confronting discriminatory policies that target Arab Americans and cast entire communities under suspicion.
Many Arab voters in Dearborn and Hamtramck hold foreign policy issues important, particularly the Israel and Palestine conflict, Syria, the war on Yemen and others. What can a Biden presidency mean for lasting peace and demands for human rights in the Mid East region? Could we see an end to continued U.S. military engagements in the region?
KH: Joe and I are committed to helping the people of the Arab world meet the challenges they face. The United States cannot dictate the outcomes in other countries, but we do have a responsibility to advance human rights and democratic principles on behalf of all people. We have an obligation to promote universal values and work toward a more peaceful and secure world. Joe and I also believe in the worth and value of every Palestinian and every Israeli and we will work to ensure that Palestinians and Israelis enjoy equal measures of freedom, security, prosperity and democracy. We are committed to a two-state solution, and we will oppose any unilateral steps that undermine that goal. We will also oppose annexation and settlement expansion. And we will take immediate steps to restore economic and humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people, address the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, reopen the U.S. consulate in East Jerusalem and work to reopen the PLO mission in Washington. In Syria, Joe and I will once again stand with civil society and pro-democracy partners in Syria, and help advance a political settlement where the Syrian people have a voice. We will work to protect the most vulnerable Syrians and lead the global coalition to defeat ISIS. And instead of standing by as the government of Saudi Arabia pursues disastrous, dangerous policies, including the ongoing war in Yemen, we will reassess the U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia and end support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen.
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全民免费医保的💰谁出？还不是要通过加税？ 然后全民后，就把全部非法移民 ，广大福利龙虾党 ，难民，homeless 都包括了。你是naive吗？世界上有免费的午餐吗？最后还不是合法纳税人出钱？
華人專鬥自己人 捧印度人
查，每个国家差不多都有移民，难道就是难民想去哪去哪？那还要国家干啥？要能让想来的中国人来我就同意
西方国家除了美国不都全民医保嘛，不也过得好好的。怎么美国就做不得。
恐怖分子都是混在绿教难民中
全民医保的意思就是保费按收入计算，退休金高的也是要增加保费的
这个人说的话怀疑读过书没有 楼主在问明年加税和恐怖袭击可能性 她在说为何难民不能进来，还扯到欧洲福利去 怎么不扯到火星上去
我表姐加拿大公民，抱怨加拿大税高。想来美国。 我跟他说我们家跟他们收入在各自国家算差不多percentile吧税其实也少不了几个percent. 还要给娃存上大学的钱。好多人没医疗保险啥的，她想想加拿大的好处... 然后CoVid一来，她完全觉得美国烂了。
楼主好像没说可能，楼主的意思是必然会
华人来美国勤勤恳恳工作，交税，共同维护社会秩序。有的难民来是干什么的?吃福利，不工作，全家领福利，挥霍纳税人的钱，还有某些族裔满世界制造恐怖袭击，为这种人维护的你难道是其中之一
这种人是典型的不见棺材不落泪，恐袭只要没发生在她身上就永远是个例
不是她naive，她吃福利的不出钱的
要做圣母就自己现身说法啊，绿教难民来了先住你家好不好啊？
不好吧，万一这人哪天被beheaded了，虽然也算是求仁得仁，但是..真的好残忍啊
接收叙利亚难民
最讨厌的就是民主党这手， 大爱大爱的，真让难民住他们家就没音了，
那几个国家都不接受移民
逼别人出钱，然后自己又做了好人
高！实在是高！
左派向来都是这样，慷他人之慨
职业移民是来美国工作给美国交税的。 而难民90%使用至少一项welfare，平均每人5年要花费6万美元，每家要花费26万美元。这些钱谁出的？
五百万不够五千万吧？赶紧多吃几顿猪肉，到时候全送来摇摆州可能就连猪肉都不让卖了
凤姐申请的就是难民啊
另外越南人也可以申请难民啊
越南对宗教的管理很严, 有的人可以在欧美申请难民
俄罗斯和 白俄罗斯的专制很厉害. 还有乌克兰的东部地区归亲俄罗斯派占领.
所以白俄罗斯人, 俄罗斯人, 乌克兰人 如果受政治迫害
也可以申请难民啊
守法勤奋公民上学就业被歧视，还有人欢呼
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-prop-47-shoplifting-theft-crime-statewide
以后950会继续提高，犯罪率📉因为不算犯罪，又是一大政绩
医保涨了百分之八点几了
之前我也因为质疑一个另外一个mm被删的帖子，不过是问了一句“刚刚那个帖子怎么没有了，华人网怎么这么乱删帖”，这个帖子发了1分钟就被华人封ID了半个月 -- 不过话说也算谢谢他们，那半个月工作效率特高，还拿了个promotion..
Anyway，华人之前一直非常右。奥巴马时期，是大家一起聚在这里抱怨中性厕所，打砸抢的天使，大开美墨边界的地方。之前mitbbs衰败，我还跟lg说我们华人大妈强大的很，大外宣根本不是对手。结果前几个月突然在几天只内被冲蓝。我一直怀疑华人真的跟mit一样被卖给大外宣了，但是觉得还是不要想得太坏。直到今天看到另外一个帖子里忘了换马甲的大外宣版主，也算彻底证实了自己的怀疑。
所以没必要在这个沦陷的泥潭里待了。华人不是以前的华人，就如同当年被大外宣控制的mit一样
你提北欧，瑞典首都的别称，你自己去看看。还有曾经“低犯罪率”的瑞典
"低犯罪率"的瑞典 这回失控了
新冠病毒肆虐全球，北欧国家瑞典的“群体免疫”屡遭诟病，这一策略不仅未能控制疫情，还严重拖累了经济。现在看来，问题远远不止这些。 9月下旬，瑞典首相斯特凡·勒文（Stefan Lofven）承认，“我们存在一个明显的问题”。《旁观者》周刊澳大利亚版（Spectator Australia）指出，勒文所指的“问题”并非是新冠疫情，而是瑞典一整个夏季居高不下的犯罪率。 9月下旬，瑞典首相斯特凡·勒文（Stefan Lofven）承认，“我们存在一个明显的问题”。《旁观者》周刊澳大利亚版（Spectator Australia）指出，勒文所指的“问题”并非是新冠疫情，而是瑞典一整个夏季居高不下的犯罪率。《旁观者》周刊还指出，虽然勒文承认了问题的存在，但他似乎却依旧在否认这一问题的本质，在一些敏感问题上的态度有些犹豫不决。
低犯罪率”曾是瑞典标签，如今的社会却满目疮痍 《旁观者》周刊形容，如此大规模的犯罪问题，让已被新冠疫情拖垮的瑞典人都“不敢相信”，要知道，瑞典此前一直都以“低犯罪率”而闻名世界。过去的这个夏季，在瑞典国内，爆炸、手榴弹袭击和枪击等事件频发，帮派乱斗和谋杀的比率近乎于德国的十倍，民众已越发觉得自己的政府无法控制犯罪问题。今年8月，在瑞典首都斯德哥尔摩南部近郊，发生了一起帮派枪战事件，流弹射中了附近正在遛狗的一名年仅12岁的小女孩，最终致其身亡。去世女孩的朋友在接受采访时表示，在他们的社区，枪击是日常生活的一部分，有孩子几乎每晚都能在卧室里听到窗外的枪声。也许年长一些的瑞典人会对此感到震惊，但这一地区的孩子们确实已经习惯了周围的“暴力”。
9月早些时候，瑞典国家警察局副局长马特·勒温（Mats Löfving）表示，瑞典国内至少存有40个以家庭为基础的犯罪网络或宗族体系，有些移民来瑞典“仅仅是为了组织和系统化地犯罪”。根据他的说法，这些人通过贩毒和敲诈勒索来赚钱，“有着很强的暴力倾向”。 警方人士所透露出的这一消息轰动性十足，因为瑞典首相勒文此前一直都将这些犯罪事件视为是“与社会经济有关的问题”。他在回应国家警察局副局长的发言时，坚持了这一观点：“我不想把犯罪与种族问题联系起来。”《旁观者》周刊指出，这句话如同瑞典政府的一句口头禅，其实是在暗示，即便只是询问犯罪事件与移民之间是否有关联，这也是一种“仇外”的表现。 瑞典首相立场有所改变，但有些话说得“遮遮掩掩” 报道文章还认为，问题并不在于所谓人们的肤色，这其实是一个关于输入型犯罪的问题：一些来自非瑞典文化圈的家庭不仅待在自己的圈子中，他们甚至还“捕食掠夺”所有种族的瑞典人。这些人建立了和政府“并行”的体系，挑战瑞典政府。对于这些问题，一些政客根本无法自己意识到。 以今年8月为例，瑞典国内“敌对犯罪”（rival criminals）的冲突愈发升级，犯罪团伙甚至采取了一些前所未有的行动。比如，蒙面的武装人员设置路障，控制进入哥德堡某些街区的车辆。由于当地帮派命令居民待在家中不得出门，街道上甚至空无一人。 哥德堡当地一所学校的校长就直截了当地说：“我上一次目睹一处检查站由犯罪的民兵控制，那还是在阿富汗看到的。”与此同时，出于安全方面的考虑，哥德堡一些地区的“医生入户家访”也已暂停，老年人和残疾人护理服务机构的工作人员也无法正常工作。 虽然此前一直不想将国内的犯罪活动和种族及移民问题相联系，但据英国媒体“TV6 News”报道，瑞典首相勒文在9月9日的一次采访中，还是不得不正视这一方面的问题。 当天，勒文在瑞典SVT电视台的一档节目中称，如果国内新移民的融合问题无法得到解决，那么瑞典的社会矛盾将会加剧。“现在情况很不好，这一问题正在我们身上发生。” 不过，勒文同时也在SVT电视台再度强调，犯罪问题不应该与任何特定的种族背景、肤色或宗教联系在一起。 尽管如此，“TV6 News”认为，在犯罪问题和移民问题之间的关系上，勒文似乎正在改变自己原有的一些立场。因为此前，他和他所属的瑞典社会民主党都坚决认为，困扰全国的帮派犯罪不应该与移民问题相联系。 移民犯罪率太难看，瑞典政府动歪脑筋 对于如何解决这些问题，《旁观者》周刊指出，瑞典政府长期以来的做法就是否认这些问题的存在。 多年来，从政府的立场，到大部分媒体的说法，都称“犯罪率上升”是一种虚假概念或虚假新闻。为此，瑞典政府还设立了“公关预算”，雇佣人员撰写“事实核查”的贴文，以否认国际社会对该国一些事件的报道，但并没有达到预期效果。 去年12月，据俄罗斯卫星社报道，瑞典林雪平大学（Linköping University）发布了题为《可以信任Brå吗？对政府研究中偏见的调研》的调查报告。调查发现，该国政府为维护低犯罪率的形象，居然施压统计机构进行数据造假，“隐瞒、篡改与故意省略”难看的犯罪数据。
Brå是瑞典国家预防犯罪委员会的缩写，隶属司法部。其主要工作是收集犯罪与犯罪预防数据、编制官方犯罪统计数据、评估改革、支持基层犯罪预防工作。 知情人士还透露，由于数据涉及种族及移民等“政治敏感”话题，瑞典司法部施压政府雇员以“统计方式缺陷”名义篡改数据，且应避开大选发布。 根据Brå委员会的原始数据，瑞典暴力犯罪案件自2014年开始上升，尤其是在移民和贫困社区。2015年起，性侵、袭击与抢劫案数量快速上升。当年，来自中东的“难民潮”席卷欧洲，人口约947万的瑞典则陆续接纳16万移民，人均分摊总数居欧洲各国之首。 2017年，瑞典通报的强奸案数量增加10%，达每10万人73起，在过去10年基础上增长了24%。由于瑞典国内治安环境恶化，中国驻瑞典大使馆网站曾于去年12月20日发布消息称，中国公民在瑞典遭受财物被盗、被抢等案件多发，破案率较低。中国驻瑞典使领馆提醒在瑞典中国公民慎重选择旅游地点和居住地区，加强安全防范。 瑞典每10万人中报案数历年变化 数据来源：Brå委员会然而，就在几周前，瑞典首相勒文甚至还曾以斯德哥尔摩一名上流社会年轻人遭帮派谋杀一事举例，认为是富裕家庭的孩子消费和使用毒品，从而导致了贫困地区的这些枪击事件。 《旁观者》周刊认为，尽管瑞典政府将富家子弟当作是“替罪羊”，但迄今为止，政府一直对犯罪性质的渐渐变化保持着沉默，其中一些犯罪行为甚至非常怪异，让人难以理解。该周刊还发问，难道瑞典一小部分年轻人滥用毒品，真的就是该国的帮派谋杀率比别国多出十倍的原因？ 真实的情况是，一些犯罪行为的性质正在改变，甚至在瑞典出现了新的名词——“羞辱性犯罪”（humiliation robberies）。许多移民青年不仅进行抢劫，甚至还对他人发出恐吓和做出有辱人格的行为，而受害者往往是儿童和年轻人。 《旁观者》周刊最后表示，由于孩子们正面临着安全威胁，许多瑞典家长才开始意识到，原来自己的孩子并不生活在他们原本认为的“低犯罪率国家”。虽然政府仍在回避和否认，但家长们认为，诚实地讨论犯罪问题的时候早就到了。
undocumented 这个词真是有意思极了。 所以并没有immigration law，只有immigration documents 或者是 immigration toilet paper。 我觉得如果斯坦化了，养着他们就算了，如果还需要我去跪舔，每天还得提心吊胆，那真的算了。 反正都不能自由说话，不如找个安全的地方，海归和我妈去吃一个食堂去，正好解决我家独生子女到底如何养老的问题，其他的随便吧。
三年前去NOVA, 店里黑头巾的数量把我给吓到了，彩色也就算了，我竟然还看到黑色蒙面的，这种估计是最极端的了吧
这里讨论的是绿教难民，夹杂恐怖份子炸弹客的一类
估计是被抢一步举报了
北欧吸收了多少难民？ 别说难民了，北欧吸收了多少移民？
就是不讓你刷臉的意思
大惊小怪的，加拿大一群一群的用黑布蒙面裹全身的就露2个眼珠的女木木，每个人带着一群孩子，在商场里瞎逛，国家发钱养，在超市里买牛奶，都是买十几桶4升装的。
吃Trump这只三个二百五的大龙虾吗？🤔
个例个毛线，过去十年全世界99%的恐袭都是绿教徒干的
很难说，好像是每个州平摊的安置点吧，和蓝红有关系吗，知道的人可以讲讲
她估计是吃福利的
赞成引进难民的，这钱就该他们出，fair enough
没有选他的，是不是可以不加税？
没医保的人去医院，医院不能拒收，所以tax payer现在难道不出钱？不光是pay tax，还要给自己再买保险，如果有全民医保，至少medical insurance不用自己买了吧？这个逻辑不至于不懂吧？ 加税也是加高收入，即使你达到版上贫困线，按现在的说法（40万），也只有超过40万的部分多交，死不了，不用激动。
光40万多交税不够，还有free college呢。全民医保的效率哪都看得到。
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你的实际税率比原来上升了？或者你其实是中上产？我家没达到华人贫困线，但我自己觉得在美国算中产，我家实际税率比原来低了。
补税不代表你多交税了，有可能是预扣少了。算算你的effective tax rate.
先算rate再来说话，补交可能只是你withhold少了而已
求仁得仁
很多主张都够呛 第一就是他说的要把1000多万非法难民全部变成LEGAL； 第二就是加税；第三居然还要继续和WHO 勾兑？
够天真。先看看人口构成再讨论政治问题，当然认识到人与人的不同是需要社会经验和悟性的
看见这么多打你脸的人，就知道果然大部分人都是有脑子的，脑子是个好东西，但总有人欠缺
全民医保不知道怎么样，obamacare可是让工薪阶级的保费增加了一大截。羊毛出在羊身上，全民医保的钱不靠工薪阶级来出要靠谁？