quote from the article you pasted: Maybe there’s something I’m missing here, but that’s my quick take. This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter–just that I don’t find this analysis convincing of anything. I will say, though, that Roukema deserves credit for presenting the analysis clearly. P.S. In response to comments: let me emphasize that I’m not saying that I think nothing funny was going on in the election. As I wrote, I’m commenting on the statistics, I don’t know the facts on the ground. To move my comments in a more constructive direction (I hope), let me pull out this useful comment from Roukema’s article: “One possible method to test whether this is just an odd fluke would be to check the validity of the vote counts for candidate K in the voting areas where the official number of votes for K starts with the digit 7.” Further investigation could be a good thing here.
以及,他反驳的不是lz贴的这个visualized data distribution。当然,same here: This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter
quote from the article you pasted: Maybe there’s something I’m missing here, but that’s my quick take. This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter–just that I don’t find this analysis convincing of anything. I will say, though, that Roukema deserves credit for presenting the analysis clearly. P.S. In response to comments: let me emphasize that I’m not saying that I think nothing funny was going on in the election. As I wrote, I’m commenting on the statistics, I don’t know the facts on the ground. To move my comments in a more constructive direction (I hope), let me pull out this useful comment from Roukema’s article: “One possible method to test whether this is just an odd fluke would be to check the validity of the vote counts for candidate K in the voting areas where the official number of votes for K starts with the digit 7.” Further investigation could be a good thing here.
以及,他反驳的不是lz贴的这个visualized data distribution。当然,same here: This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter ecko 发表于 2020-11-06 15:23
哈哈,科技求真。肯定不能拿来做法律证据,不过分析越多大家心里越有数
第一次听说这个法则,不好意思打错了!我看看在哪里修改
甩个链接 咱也去学习下哈
Unconvincing (to me) Use of Benford’s Law to Demonstrate Election Fraud in Iran
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/unconvincing-to-me-use-of-benfords-law/
quote from the article you pasted:
Maybe there’s something I’m missing here, but that’s my quick take. This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter–just that I don’t find this analysis convincing of anything. I will say, though, that Roukema deserves credit for presenting the analysis clearly. P.S. In response to comments: let me emphasize that I’m not saying that I think nothing funny was going on in the election. As I wrote, I’m commenting on the statistics, I don’t know the facts on the ground. To move my comments in a more constructive direction (I hope), let me pull out this useful comment from Roukema’s article: “One possible method to test whether this is just an odd fluke would be to check the validity of the vote counts for candidate K in the voting areas where the official number of votes for K starts with the digit 7.” Further investigation could be a good thing here.
以及,他反驳的不是lz贴的这个visualized data distribution。当然,same here: This is not to say that I think the election was fair, or rigged, or whatever–I have absolutely zero knowledge on that matter
真烦人,就是你这样的川粉把 trump 人品霍霍没的。多少人是因为身边这些低素质的川粉最后决定不选川的。真可笑,在朋友圈儿乱叫还以为是在给trump拉票。多少人没有给你点赞就是多少人烦你。
那篇文章是2009年的啊,质疑是否这个law试用于大选数据。这种质疑不是新的。
就拿Milwaukee地区的数据做一个例子,Milwaukee地区Biden:Trump总支持率是在69%:29%,简化一下,就是70%:30%。我们简单假设一下整个城区478个ward都差不多符合这个比例(基本上没啥区别,有兴趣的人可以快速scan一下: https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/County-Clerk/Off-Nav/Election-Results/Election-Results-Fall-2020)。
但是,要注意一点的是,在城市划分Ward的时候,本身就是大致按照人口分布划分的,而不是完全随机的!具体到Milwaukke这478个ward,其中投票人口在300~1400这个区间就占到382个(80%)!大家可以用简单的数学常识计算一下,70%乘以300~1400中的任何一个数,都不会得出首位是1的数字。这也就意味着,投Biden的选票在这80%的ward中都不太会是1字打头的,而1字打头的数字的期望比例在这个样本中应该是20%左右,刚好和这个原作者列出的图符合!
相反,对于拿30%票的Trump来说,他如果要得到1字打头的选票数字,原始投票人口分布应该是在333~666这个范围之内。Ward人口分布里,300~700这个range的Ward总共有160个(33%),刚好可以达成30%这个数!
这个Github原作者精心cherry pick出了5个地区来选择性的证明他的观点,真是脏了Statistician这个职业!
以下是Milwaukee每个Ward人口分布histogram供大家自己参考: