But that misses the dependencies which until now have simply been a given in the ecosystem. The traditional view has been the rich need the poor to exploit as cheap labor—textbook economic inequality. But with COVID as the spark, the ticking bomb of economic inequality may soon go off in America’s greatest city. Things are changing and New York, and by extension America, needs to ask itself what it wants to be when it grows up. It’s snapshot simple. The wealthy and the companies they work for pay most of the taxes. The poor consume most of the taxes through social programs. COVID is driving the wealthy and their offices out of the city. No one will be left to pay for the poor, who are stuck here, and the city will collapse in the transition. A classic failed state scenario. New York City is home to 118 billionaires, more than any other American city. New York City is also home to nearly one million millionaires, more than any other city in the world. Among those millionaires some 8,865 are classified as “high net worth,” with more than $30 million each. They pay the taxes. The top one percent of NYC taxpayers pay nearly 50 percent of all personal income taxes collected in New York. Personal income tax in the New York area accounts for 59percent of all revenues. Property taxes add in more than a billion dollars a year in revenue, about half of that generated by office space.
But that misses the dependencies which until now have simply been a given in the ecosystem. The traditional view has been the rich need the poor to exploit as cheap labor—textbook economic inequality. But with COVID as the spark, the ticking bomb of economic inequality may soon go off in America’s greatest city. Things are changing and New York, and by extension America, needs to ask itself what it wants to be when it grows up. It’s snapshot simple. The wealthy and the companies they work for pay most of the taxes. The poor consume most of the taxes through social programs. COVID is driving the wealthy and their offices out of the city. No one will be left to pay for the poor, who are stuck here, and the city will collapse in the transition. A classic failed state scenario. New York City is home to 118 billionaires, more than any other American city. New York City is also home to nearly one million millionaires, more than any other city in the world. Among those millionaires some 8,865 are classified as “high net worth,” with more than $30 million each. They pay the taxes. The top one percent of NYC taxpayers pay nearly 50 percent of all personal income taxes collected in New York. Personal income tax in the New York area accounts for 59percent of all revenues. Property taxes add in more than a billion dollars a year in revenue, about half of that generated by office space.
这次病毒让大家看到在家工作是行得通，有效率的. 会长久的改变这些城市。
纽约中产税交的比加拿大人多。
只有你没有， 大家都有
是不是房子贵，有房子就算哪怕年收入就10来万？
你是在搞笑么？金融业跟在不在纽约有一毛钱关系？那些公司不在华尔街就不吸血全世界了？
这里一大堆人就怕美国变成北欧那样富足快乐的国家， 这样他们的祖国超英赶美的目标就要落空了
你说的实体经济早变成铁锈带了，NYC是美国最贵的地方，硅谷的公司都纷纷往这里搬，你觉得是为啥？
我在说反话你没听懂吗。纽约的人口结构还变北欧呢，变 shit hole 还差不多。
纽约的几家大金融机构这几年一直在往外州搬。
纽约half of its tax base 走了是事实了。 It’s a matter of whether they are coming back.
这些人都搬去哪里了？记得一大部分搬去了佛州。另外，你对纽约老市长在RNC的演讲怎么看。
纽约现在绝对是科技大城市，科技产业这几年都是成倍的增长
那篇文章没说走啊，而且这些人很多本来就不交纽约的税，那篇著名的某富豪为了在纽约市境内不超过182天午夜狂奔的文章你看过吧。
人才才是最宝贵的啊。你搬到2，3线人家不愿意去不是么。
美国有多少实体经济啊，如果实体指的是制造业的话。其实纽约现在经济比2008年均衡多了，那时候金融一业独大。现在金融，旅游，科技，还有所谓的creative industry. 如果明年初就能恢复正常的话能恢复的，因为毕竟high networth 的很多人还是不能完全接受郊区生活，好的餐馆，剧院，文艺活动是lifestyle 的一部分。 当然如果明年再关半年可能就撑不下去了。
现在不急着用钱的为啥要卖房啊？赶着buy high sell low 吗？
人才不爱去二三线啊
我知道暂时离开岛上的，不是在郊区买房就是去其他地方租房的，要么投奔父母三代同堂了。等疫情好转了就准备回岛上。
现在岛上成交价降了吗？我那天没事到streeteasy上搜了搜感觉rent降了，但是sale没啥变化
没看过。你说的某富豪是为什么狂奔啊？狂奔去纽约玩吗？不是玩是为了上班？有公司还不交税？你对纽约的苛捐杂税认识不够深刻啊。
现在的纽约对有娃的中上产家庭太不友好了，搬到太多其它城市，生活质量能提高太多了。
没怎么降，我看到的seller都是不差那个房子钱的。不过买家出价没有以前的好，所以好几个经纪跟我抱怨岛上交易难做成现在
大多数是这样，岛上卖家还是经济不错。也有几个离婚卖房的，配偶疫情中过世卖的。。。。
公司没走是因为公司lease都是5-15年的不好轻易break。但员工可以轻易搬离nyc不交city tax
不仅仅是疫情，而是这次让很多公司意识到WFH是完全可行的。我们公司就明确说了肯定会减少在城里的 real estate，至于是逐渐transition到至少一部分员工长期WFH 还是在周围建satellite office。目前还不清楚。
有人搬走，但是最近也有人往回搬的，因为学校要开学了。要不是为了孩子上学，我早就搬走了。
这么简单的数学题，LZ你是不是看不起白思豪？
out 了吧， 版主发新规了， 以后都只能点赞， 没有地方点踩了
我真诚劝你早点搬走。起码这三五年别住在纽约了。
我们出租的那个房子房客要续合同，我们没有给续，现在month by month，就是为了能随时搬家。但是现在公司的情形不清楚，不知道会不会需要回办公室，还是可以在家，还是可以去 satellite office，所以我们也观望中。明年春天以前必须决定了，因为涉及到交明年学费的问题。
继续作
欧洲太破了。看看巴黎。唉