特殊时期,关于处理相关帖子和违规ID的最新公告

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express77
HN这是美国黑人常用称呼,用于藐视那些为白人为虎作伥的帮凶。只能说你知识贫乏。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:16

来,此ID说N word 可以说,这也算证据了
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ysunny
版主能回答这个吗?尤其是第二个问题。诅咒美国,诅咒包括abc的华人的,为啥就不会永久封id的条例?
Olympian 发表于 2020-07-15 11:50

我不是台湾人,但版上经常见到有些id咒骂台湾人,比如某id,说过核爆美华,核平台湾,版主是否认为在海外的台湾人香港人也算海外华人?这种咒骂是不是也应该按违反版规处理?
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Fishingpost
对了公共账号的目的是为了保护隐私,让网友在比较少顾虑的情况下谈一点私事,我觉得不应该让人用公共账号发时事这些非隐私相关的帖子。
Ruth 发表于 2020-07-15 12:11

这个以前就有规定的,现在嘛,上次用公马写政治贴的,举报了也没动静,楼搭多高了也看不到,最后也不知道删贴了没有,违规ID罚了没有。所以我强烈要求版主们把处罚贴在版面上,有理有据,免了网友误会,也能增加透明度,更容易执行班规
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lesleyzhang
双标太严重了,大外宣X毛带节奏完全影响了美国华人网友的正常讨论。许多用语有歧视性,甚至非常恶毒地误导、诅咒美国及美国华人,大家举报多少次了,没见你们处理啊?
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ysunny
不止,动不动就骂人黄皮,恶毒诅咒ABC,反正我举报的骂人黄皮的都没事。我是没见过身在海外的正常人会说自己黄皮xx的,没那么下贱。
Fishingpost 发表于 2020-07-15 11:59

比如南京菜农,经常在回帖里小黄人的骂,投诉过几次,没人管
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fitzroy
来,此ID说N word 可以说,这也算证据了
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:18

不要再卖弄你的无知了,美国黑人从来没有认为这个term offensive,wiki就有词条 美国黑人民权领袖都在用。
House negro (also house nigger) is a historical term for a house slave of African descent. Historically, a house negro had a higher status and standard of living than a field slave or "field negro" who worked outdoors, often in harsh conditions. House negro is also used in the 2010s as a pejorative term to compare a contemporary black person to such a slave.
History The term "house negro" appears in print by 1711. On May 21 of that year, The Boston News-Letter ran an advertisement that "A Young House-Negro Wench of 19 Years of Age that speaks English to be Sold."[1] In a 1771 letter, a Maryland slave-owner compared the lives of his slaves to those to "house negroes" and "plantation negroes", refuting an accusation that his slaves were poorly fed by saying they were fed as well as "plantation negroes", though not as well as the "house negroes".[1][2] In 1807, a report of the African Institution of London described an incident in which an old woman was required to work in the field after she refused to throw salt-water and gunpowder on the wounds of other slaves who had been whipped. According to the report, she had previously enjoyed a favored status as a "house negro".[3] Margaret Mitchell made use of the term to describe a slave named Pork in her famed 1936 Southern plantation fiction, Gone With the Wind.[4] African-American activist Malcolm X commented on the cultural connotations and consequences of the term in his 1963 speech "Message to the Grass Roots", wherein he explained that during slavery there were two types of slaves: "house negroes" who worked in the master's house, and "field negroes" who performed outdoor manual labor. He characterized the house negro as having a better life than the field negro, and thus being unwilling to leave the plantation and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favored whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field negro.[5]  Contemporary use The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community, especially against politically right-leaning African-Americans, [8] and as a borrowed term in contemporary social critique.[9] In New Zealand in 2012, Hone Harawira, a Member of Parliament and leader of the socialist Mana Party, aroused controversy after referring to Maori MPs from the ruling New Zealand National Party as "little house niggers" during a heated debate on electricity privatisation, and its potential effect on Waitangi Tribunal claims.[10] In June 2017, comedian Bill Maher used the term self-referentially during a live broadcast interview with US Senator Ben Sasse, saying "Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house nigga [...]. It’s a joke!"[11] Maher apologized for the comment.[12] In April 2018, Wisconsin State Senator Lena Taylor used the term during a dispute with a bank teller. When the teller refused to cash a check for which there were insufficient funds, Taylor called the teller a "house nigger". Both Taylor and the teller are African Americans.[13]
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neolaga
双标太严重了,大外宣X毛带节奏完全影响了美国华人网友的正常讨论。许多用语有歧视性,甚至非常恶毒地误导、诅咒美国及美国华人,大家举报多少次了,没见你们处理啊?
lesleyzhang 发表于 2020-07-15 12:19

和现在reddit, twitter...一个样,你不同意我,就不允许你有说话的权利。 啧啧,又b, 又l。
姑逢獙獙
来,此ID说N word 可以说,这也算证据了
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:18

你支持kungflu的回复我还存着呢,以身作则一下吧
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kominu
US House Report 116-246 - STOPPING HARMFUL INTERFERENCE IN ELECTIONS FOR A LASTING DEMOCRACY ACT
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/116th-congress/house-report/246/1
张翠凤
转帖川普自己的言论怎么算黑他?
所谓新id政治贴,支持川普的基本都被秒转时政吧,黑川普的基本都能盖个几百楼。双标的不是一点半点。
neolaga 发表于 7/15/2020 11:55:54 AM


dukenyc125 发表于 2020-07-15 12:16

那你們扭曲言論, 造謠的帖子和ID 怎麼不封?
你們亂造謠 川普要給80萬黑戶公民這種詆毀美國總統的帖子跟ID 就應該封, 如果不封, 我會向美國相關部門舉報!
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ysunny
华人一口一个Chinese Virus恰恰是在诅咒所有美国华人。
一些华人一边到处高喊chinese virus,一边有所攻击美华要严惩,是不是oxymoron?

fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:11

这个id我记得从来只在政治贴出现吧?按版规是不是要封id?
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express77
不要再卖弄你的无知了,美国黑人从来没有认为这个term offensive,wiki就有词条 美国黑人民权领袖都在用。
House negro (also house nigger) is a historical term for a house slave of African descent. Historically, a house negro had a higher status and standard of living than a field slave or "field negro" who worked outdoors, often in harsh conditions. House negro is also used in the 2010s as a pejorative term to compare a contemporary black person to such a slave.
History The term "house negro" appears in print by 1711. On May 21 of that year, The Boston News-Letter ran an advertisement that "A Young House-Negro Wench of 19 Years of Age that speaks English to be Sold."[1] In a 1771 letter, a Maryland slave-owner compared the lives of his slaves to those to "house negroes" and "plantation negroes", refuting an accusation that his slaves were poorly fed by saying they were fed as well as "plantation negroes", though not as well as the "house negroes".[1][2] In 1807, a report of the African Institution of London described an incident in which an old woman was required to work in the field after she refused to throw salt-water and gunpowder on the wounds of other slaves who had been whipped. According to the report, she had previously enjoyed a favored status as a "house negro".[3] Margaret Mitchell made use of the term to describe a slave named Pork in her famed 1936 Southern plantation fiction, Gone With the Wind.[4] African-American activist Malcolm X commented on the cultural connotations and consequences of the term in his 1963 speech "Message to the Grass Roots", wherein he explained that during slavery there were two types of slaves: "house negroes" who worked in the master's house, and "field negroes" who performed outdoor manual labor. He characterized the house negro as having a better life than the field negro, and thus being unwilling to leave the plantation and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favored whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field negro.[5]  Contemporary use The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community, especially against politically right-leaning African-Americans, [8] and as a borrowed term in contemporary social critique.[9] In New Zealand in 2012, Hone Harawira, a Member of Parliament and leader of the socialist Mana Party, aroused controversy after referring to Maori MPs from the ruling New Zealand National Party as "little house niggers" during a heated debate on electricity privatisation, and its potential effect on Waitangi Tribunal claims.[10] In June 2017, comedian Bill Maher used the term self-referentially during a live broadcast interview with US Senator Ben Sasse, saying "Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house nigga [...]. It’s a joke!"[11] Maher apologized for the comment.[12] In April 2018, Wisconsin State Senator Lena Taylor used the term during a dispute with a bank teller. When the teller refused to cash a check for which there were insufficient funds, Taylor called the teller a "house nigger". Both Taylor and the teller are African Americans.[13]
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:20

你会看英文吗?黑人内部可以说,其他人不可以说。
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fitzroy
再说一遍,Chinese Virus中国人病毒 是对世界上所有华人无差别的攻击。 除了川普和川粉,所有人都认为这是种族歧视语言,是对华人诋毁。 川粉为了挺川普,不惜攻击自己种族是virus,这才应该封,
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baymom
我不是台湾人,但版上经常见到有些id咒骂台湾人,比如某id,说过核爆美华,核平台湾,版主是否认为在海外的台湾人香港人也算海外华人?这种咒骂是不是也应该按违反版规处理?
ysunny 发表于 2020-07-15 12:18

这的确是非常不好的暴力言论。
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coolcream
呵呵,我觉的大家不要抱什么希望了,华人的问题是人治暗箱操作选择性执法,原因大家自己想吧,每次民怨太大,就封几个出头鸟,出台一堆新规定,反正还是想换汤不换药,想收拾哪个收拾哪个,你投诉破头也没用,现在就是缓兵之计而己。一个东西建立起来很慢,毁掉可以很快。
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meningitis
不要再卖弄你的无知了,美国黑人从来没有认为这个term offensive,wiki就有词条 美国黑人民权领袖都在用。
House negro (also house nigger) is a historical term for a house slave of African descent. Historically, a house negro had a higher status and standard of living than a field slave or "field negro" who worked outdoors, often in harsh conditions. House negro is also used in the 2010s as a pejorative term to compare a contemporary black person to such a slave.
History The term "house negro" appears in print by 1711. On May 21 of that year, The Boston News-Letter ran an advertisement that "A Young House-Negro Wench of 19 Years of Age that speaks English to be Sold."[1] In a 1771 letter, a Maryland slave-owner compared the lives of his slaves to those to "house negroes" and "plantation negroes", refuting an accusation that his slaves were poorly fed by saying they were fed as well as "plantation negroes", though not as well as the "house negroes".[1][2] In 1807, a report of the African Institution of London described an incident in which an old woman was required to work in the field after she refused to throw salt-water and gunpowder on the wounds of other slaves who had been whipped. According to the report, she had previously enjoyed a favored status as a "house negro".[3] Margaret Mitchell made use of the term to describe a slave named Pork in her famed 1936 Southern plantation fiction, Gone With the Wind.[4] African-American activist Malcolm X commented on the cultural connotations and consequences of the term in his 1963 speech "Message to the Grass Roots", wherein he explained that during slavery there were two types of slaves: "house negroes" who worked in the master's house, and "field negroes" who performed outdoor manual labor. He characterized the house negro as having a better life than the field negro, and thus being unwilling to leave the plantation and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favored whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field negro.[5]  Contemporary use The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community, especially against politically right-leaning African-Americans, [8] and as a borrowed term in contemporary social critique.[9] In New Zealand in 2012, Hone Harawira, a Member of Parliament and leader of the socialist Mana Party, aroused controversy after referring to Maori MPs from the ruling New Zealand National Party as "little house niggers" during a heated debate on electricity privatisation, and its potential effect on Waitangi Tribunal claims.[10] In June 2017, comedian Bill Maher used the term self-referentially during a live broadcast interview with US Senator Ben Sasse, saying "Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house nigga [...]. It’s a joke!"[11] Maher apologized for the comment.[12] In April 2018, Wisconsin State Senator Lena Taylor used the term during a dispute with a bank teller. When the teller refused to cash a check for which there were insufficient funds, Taylor called the teller a "house nigger". Both Taylor and the teller are African Americans.[13]
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:20

在美国只有黑人可以自称自己是Nword,别的族裔说就是racism,这是常识。
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express77
你支持kungflu的回复我还存着呢,以身作则一下吧
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:21

我哪句话支持了?你就是那种多个马甲还指责别人有马甲,有变形虫的ID,自己好好照镜子
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fitzroy
你会看英文吗?黑人内部可以说,其他人不可以说。
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:23

所以你一口一个Kung flu, chinese virus。
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Caffeine
我觉得咱们就该拉个只有北美华人上的网站,让这帮五毛自己在为名文学城和华人high去
Foodstar 发表于 2020-07-15 12:17

纯技术讨论: 1.要钱维护。大家可以众筹这个倒是不太麻烦,但是 2.如果owner有在中国的家人,被人恐吓一下很容易,最后还是一个下场。如果能把2解决其他都不是问题。
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ysunny
版主给个解释,为什么咒骂海外华人,咒骂美国,就不违反版规?
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niuniudabao
耶~~版主威武~~~
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bluecrab
支持华人好好管理,太乌烟瘴气了。
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fitzroy
在美国只有黑人可以自称自己是Nword,别的族裔说就是racism,这是常识。

meningitis 发表于 2020-07-15 12:25

这不是Nword,这是一个词,搞清楚。
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dotmm
天谴CCP算不算天谴论? China virus 违不违规? 好困惑😦
政治科代表 发表于 2020-07-15 12:08

天灭中共的言论算违规,亲身经历



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express77
所以你一口一个Kung flu, chinese virus。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:25

你去挖挖坟,我一口一个哪里来的?说话要有证据。你的证据我有
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zxjm
这个论坛的立场一目了然。
姑逢獙獙
我哪句话支持了?你就是那种多个马甲还指责别人有马甲,有变形虫的ID,自己好好照镜子
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:25

呵呵,我贴出来你们又要集体举报我大字报,我可领教过了。你们这个团体会做什么,这些新规不都说的很清楚了吗
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haoliqiu
纯技术讨论: 1.要钱维护。大家可以众筹这个倒是不太麻烦,但是 2.如果owner有在中国的家人,被人恐吓一下很容易,最后还是一个下场。如果能把2解决其他都不是问题。
Caffeine 发表于 2020-07-15 12:25

有华人管理层这种气魄和胆量的,我还真没见几个。现在这气氛下,国内有关部门给爹妈叫去喝次茶,估计大都怂了。
平明寻白羽
很好。支持。
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lyksj
不要再卖弄你的无知了,美国黑人从来没有认为这个term offensive,wiki就有词条 美国黑人民权领袖都在用。
House negro (also house nigger) is a historical term for a house slave of African descent. Historically, a house negro had a higher status and standard of living than a field slave or "field negro" who worked outdoors, often in harsh conditions. House negro is also used in the 2010s as a pejorative term to compare a contemporary black person to such a slave.
History The term "house negro" appears in print by 1711. On May 21 of that year, The Boston News-Letter ran an advertisement that "A Young House-Negro Wench of 19 Years of Age that speaks English to be Sold."[1] In a 1771 letter, a Maryland slave-owner compared the lives of his slaves to those to "house negroes" and "plantation negroes", refuting an accusation that his slaves were poorly fed by saying they were fed as well as "plantation negroes", though not as well as the "house negroes".[1][2] In 1807, a report of the African Institution of London described an incident in which an old woman was required to work in the field after she refused to throw salt-water and gunpowder on the wounds of other slaves who had been whipped. According to the report, she had previously enjoyed a favored status as a "house negro".[3] Margaret Mitchell made use of the term to describe a slave named Pork in her famed 1936 Southern plantation fiction, Gone With the Wind.[4] African-American activist Malcolm X commented on the cultural connotations and consequences of the term in his 1963 speech "Message to the Grass Roots", wherein he explained that during slavery there were two types of slaves: "house negroes" who worked in the master's house, and "field negroes" who performed outdoor manual labor. He characterized the house negro as having a better life than the field negro, and thus being unwilling to leave the plantation and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favored whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field negro.[5]  Contemporary use The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community, especially against politically right-leaning African-Americans, [8] and as a borrowed term in contemporary social critique.[9] In New Zealand in 2012, Hone Harawira, a Member of Parliament and leader of the socialist Mana Party, aroused controversy after referring to Maori MPs from the ruling New Zealand National Party as "little house niggers" during a heated debate on electricity privatisation, and its potential effect on Waitangi Tribunal claims.[10] In June 2017, comedian Bill Maher used the term self-referentially during a live broadcast interview with US Senator Ben Sasse, saying "Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house nigga [...]. It’s a joke!"[11] Maher apologized for the comment.[12] In April 2018, Wisconsin State Senator Lena Taylor used the term during a dispute with a bank teller. When the teller refused to cash a check for which there were insufficient funds, Taylor called the teller a "house nigger". Both Taylor and the teller are African Americans.[13]
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:20

哈哈哈,从你说的这句话,我真的怀疑你来自于在哪里,连基本的常识都缺乏
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express77
呵呵,我贴出来你们又要集体举报我大字报,我可领教过了。你们这个团体会做什么,这些新规不都说的很清楚了吗
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:27

你贴出来的我一个字都没有支持。你就不要污蔑人。我请版主来查查我们两个,看谁有几个马甲,谁没有。哦对,这个ID和CW时常一起攻击一些ID,也请版主查一下
小喵喵
看华人能基本“中立”到什么时候....... 如果太那啥了,就是时候说再见了
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shoon_yee
支持华人好好管理,太乌烟瘴气了。
bluecrab 发表于 2020-07-15 12:26

这个版规,最终只让亲工的人说话。
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Caffeine
有华人管理层这种气魄和胆量的,我还真没见几个。现在这气氛下,国内有关部门给爹妈叫去喝次茶,估计大都怂了。
haoliqiu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:27

所以过去几周的变化大家要理解。因为真实生活中没人想做martyr.
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lyksj
版主给个解释,为什么咒骂海外华人,咒骂美国,就不违反版规?
ysunny 发表于 2020-07-15 12:26

有同样的质疑
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kominu
不要再卖弄你的无知了,美国黑人从来没有认为这个term offensive,wiki就有词条 美国黑人民权领袖都在用。
House negro (also house nigger) is a historical term for a house slave of African descent. Historically, a house negro had a higher status and standard of living than a field slave or "field negro" who worked outdoors, often in harsh conditions. House negro is also used in the 2010s as a pejorative term to compare a contemporary black person to such a slave.
History The term "house negro" appears in print by 1711. On May 21 of that year, The Boston News-Letter ran an advertisement that "A Young House-Negro Wench of 19 Years of Age that speaks English to be Sold."[1] In a 1771 letter, a Maryland slave-owner compared the lives of his slaves to those to "house negroes" and "plantation negroes", refuting an accusation that his slaves were poorly fed by saying they were fed as well as "plantation negroes", though not as well as the "house negroes".[1][2] In 1807, a report of the African Institution of London described an incident in which an old woman was required to work in the field after she refused to throw salt-water and gunpowder on the wounds of other slaves who had been whipped. According to the report, she had previously enjoyed a favored status as a "house negro".[3] Margaret Mitchell made use of the term to describe a slave named Pork in her famed 1936 Southern plantation fiction, Gone With the Wind.[4] African-American activist Malcolm X commented on the cultural connotations and consequences of the term in his 1963 speech "Message to the Grass Roots", wherein he explained that during slavery there were two types of slaves: "house negroes" who worked in the master's house, and "field negroes" who performed outdoor manual labor. He characterized the house negro as having a better life than the field negro, and thus being unwilling to leave the plantation and potentially more likely to support existing power structures that favored whites over blacks. Malcolm X identified with the field negro.[5]  Contemporary use The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community, especially against politically right-leaning African-Americans, [8] and as a borrowed term in contemporary social critique.[9] In New Zealand in 2012, Hone Harawira, a Member of Parliament and leader of the socialist Mana Party, aroused controversy after referring to Maori MPs from the ruling New Zealand National Party as "little house niggers" during a heated debate on electricity privatisation, and its potential effect on Waitangi Tribunal claims.[10] In June 2017, comedian Bill Maher used the term self-referentially during a live broadcast interview with US Senator Ben Sasse, saying "Work in the fields? Senator, I’m a house nigga [...]. It’s a joke!"[11] Maher apologized for the comment.[12] In April 2018, Wisconsin State Senator Lena Taylor used the term during a dispute with a bank teller. When the teller refused to cash a check for which there were insufficient funds, Taylor called the teller a "house nigger". Both Taylor and the teller are African Americans.[13]
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:20

Admins: Please clarify if the N word is allowed to use on this platform? It is clearly hate speech and prohibited on mainstream social media such as Twitter and Facebook.
https://help.twitter.com/en/safety-and-security/offensive-tweets-and-content
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pusheen2020
所以你一口一个Kung flu, chinese virus。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:25

这个帖子是讨论版规的,疯狗一样乱咬的请出去。
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meningitis
在美国言论自由,只要不违反美国法律比如说发表racism言论的,应该受到美国法律的保护。华人服务器如果在美国境内,最好按照这个基本原则制定管理规章。
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express77
这不是Nword,这是一个词,搞清楚。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:26

一个词也是在非裔community 里可以用,你读不懂吧
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lyksj
在美国言论自由,只要不违反美国法律比如说发表racism言论的,应该受到美国法律的保护。华人服务器如果在美国境内,最好按照这个基本原则制定管理规章。
meningitis 发表于 2020-07-15 12:31

同意。如果服务器在美国,应该要遵守美国的法律
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pusheen2020
在美国言论自由,只要不违反美国法律比如说发表racism言论的,应该受到美国法律的保护。华人服务器如果在美国境内,最好按照这个基本原则制定管理规章。
meningitis 发表于 2020-07-15 12:31

就是,对于身在美国,甚至是美籍华人,也要要求他们一定要支持中国共产党,反对共和党和美国总统,国务卿,这是不是违反美国法律?
高富帅
版规绕着弯子各种亲共
姑逢獙獙
你会看英文吗?黑人内部可以说,其他人不可以说。
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:23

Negro和Nigger,前者有条件可以说,后者不可以。你有黑人同事自己去问问就知道了。虽然现在普遍认为前者带有攻击性,但是和后者区别还是很大的。
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pusheen2020
Negro和Nigger,前者有条件可以说,后者不可以。你有黑人同事自己去问问就知道了。虽然现在普遍认为前者带有攻击性,但是和后者区别还是很大的。
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:35

你现在就上街找个黑人说一下,平安无事回来的话算你赢。
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Ruth
这个论坛的立场一目了然。

zxjm 发表于 2020-07-15 12:27

倒不见得是论坛的立场,但是几个管理员各有立场能看出来
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haoliqiu
所以过去几周的变化大家要理解。因为真实生活中没人想做martyr.
Caffeine 发表于 2020-07-15 12:30

请不要故意歪曲我的话。我的意思是,华人管理层,有气魄,有胆量,敢和专制独裁叫板,我佩服,我做不到,我也不认为一般人能做到。
你这种有意歪曲,让人觉得sick!

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fitzroy
Admins: Please clarify if the N word is allowed to use on this platform? It is clearly hate speech and prohibited on mainstream social media such as Twitter and Facebook.
https://help.twitter.com/en/safety-and-security/offensive-tweets-and-content

kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:31

N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
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Caffeine
请不要故意歪曲我的话。我的意思是,华人管理层,有气魄,有胆量,敢和专制独裁叫板,我佩服,我做不到,我也不认为一般人能做到。
你这种有意歪曲,让人觉得sick!


haoliqiu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:38

? 我说的就是一般人不会去做。
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express77
Negro和Nigger,前者有条件可以说,后者不可以。你有黑人同事自己去问问就知道了。虽然现在普遍认为前者带有攻击性,但是和后者区别还是很大的。
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:35

你的战友说的是后者,呵呵
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express77
N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:38

呵呵,黑人内部可以说,你出去说说吧,支持你
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pusheen2020
你的战友说的是后者,呵呵
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:39

哈哈,spin到姥姥家了。
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kominu
同意。如果服务器在美国,应该要遵守美国的法律
lyksj 发表于 2020-07-15 12:33

站务请澄清 huaren.us是否是在美国注册的? huaren.us是否有服务器在美国? huaren.us管理人员是否有在美国境内的?
如果三条中有任何一条,huaren.us就受美国法律约束。我没有说huaren.us已经违反了美国法律,我只是提醒huaren.us须遵守美国法律。我也不是干涉站务工作,而是希望本网能够严格自律,避免踏入法律灰色甚至红色地带。
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lyksj
我不是台湾人,但版上经常见到有些id咒骂台湾人,比如某id,说过核爆美华,核平台湾,版主是否认为在海外的台湾人香港人也算海外华人?这种咒骂是不是也应该按违反版规处理?
ysunny 发表于 2020-07-15 12:18

还有对香港人,海外华人,ABC的各种的咒骂 。。。
这些都应该处理
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fitzroy
你现在就上街找个黑人说一下,平安无事回来的话算你赢。
pusheen2020 发表于 2020-07-15 12:37


注意这是讨论House N一个特定历史名词。不是单纯N word。
N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的那篇著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸,讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
如果一个黑人极其讨好白人,攻击黑人种族, 骂她House N绝对没问题。 我们在大学seminar讨论时就直接用到这个词指黒奸, 你大惊小怪,把它和N word等同起来,说明你英语一窍不通,也不读美国文化。或者就是在偷换概念。
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kominu
N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:38

没问你问,问站务呢。你是站务吗?
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mayyi
第三条确实不妥。如果要言论自由,那就不应该封杀某些言论,而对另一些言论听之任之。否则就不能称为中立客观。
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wolwolwol
没问你问,问站务呢。你是站务吗?
kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

well,this is a good question
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silk
支持版主!
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express77

注意这是讨论House N一个特定历史名词。不是单纯N word。
N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的那篇著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸,讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
如果一个黑人极其讨好白人,攻击黑人种族, 骂她House N绝对没问题。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

黑人可以骂,你骂试试看,你有啥权利骂黑人
飞大少奶奶
回复 1楼超级版主10的帖子
感谢版主提供这条重要信息: 六,以上违规情节恶劣者,将通过锁定IP等方式永久禁止访问华人。
华人网果然是知道每个帖子的来源IP的。
kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 11:57

技术上讲是这样的,所以普通网友应该注意保护自己隐私。
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WalnutTree
站务请澄清 huaren.us是否是在美国注册的? huaren.us是否有服务器在美国? huaren.us管理人员是否有在美国境内的?
如果三条中有任何一条,huaren.us就受美国法律约束。我没有说huaren.us已经违反了美国法律,我只是提醒huaren.us须遵守美国法律。我也不是干涉站务工作,而是希望本网能够严格自律,避免踏入法律灰色甚至红色地带。
kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:40

I want to know too.
姑逢獙獙
你现在就上街找个黑人说一下,平安无事回来的话算你赢。
pusheen2020 发表于 2020-07-15 12:37

这话就是一个老黑朋友告诉我的。不需要跟你们抬杠。我说了有条件前提可以说,取决于关系。你同事关系好有人喊你chinaman跟马路上有人喊你chinaman能一样?
m
meningitis

注意这是讨论House N一个特定历史名词。不是单纯N word。
N word单独说不允许 但是House N 自从黑人民权领袖
Malcolm X
的那篇著名演讲House N和Field N之后,已经成为专有名词, 就是黑奸,讨好白人黑奴意思,没有其他词可以替代。
如果一个黑人极其讨好白人,攻击黑人种族, 骂她House N绝对没问题。
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

你自己看美国主流媒体怎么定义这个词的 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/arts/television/bill-maher-n-word.html
通商宽衣001
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2571551&fid=301

Caffeine 发表于 2020-07-15 11:52

我也mark一下(虽然原帖被封了)
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789
遇到违法版规的,欢迎积极举报。谢谢。
超级版主10 发表于 2020-07-15 11:44

按照版规举报,但是超版不执法怎么办? 请看 https://m.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2563997
你定的版规再好,如果不能公平执行。最后来一句“任何事情都不是绝对的,版主也会筛选” 来偏袒某些违规行为,那也没有公信力。
小喵呜
第三条确实不妥。如果要言论自由,那就不应该封杀某些言论,而对另一些言论听之任之。否则就不能称为中立客观。
mayyi 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

建议改成 面对中国以及美国国内造成严重生命和财产损失的自然灾害以及事故(洪水,地震,飓风,枪击,新冠等),公开表达“天谴中国”“天谴美国““求仁得仁“及相关诅咒报应论的,在华人版面上公开宣传、认可并支持“Chinese Virus”“美国放毒”说法的,一律永久销号处理。欢迎广大网友积极举报。
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WalnutTree
没问你问,问站务呢。你是站务吗?
kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

I have the same question.
点苍鹤云
特殊时期,关于处理相关帖子和违规ID的最新公告
华人网独立运营至今,历经多年艰辛,在广大网友的信任、厚爱和支持下,成长为海外独立的、有一定影响力且为数不多的享有言论自由的中文网站,个中艰辛和压力,实属不易。
近期,面对一些新情况。补充相关版务如下:
一,华人马甲用户最新一定时期内频繁且只是发布(或绝大多数发帖和回帖)宣传固定政治观点贴【包括并不限于,只发布中国负面新闻,只发布美国负面新闻,只发布支持自己政治观点和只发布打击与自己观点不同的帖子】,对华人网其他内容毫无兴趣参与,严重影响广大华人网友正常浏览的,一律连同大衣大号永久销号处理。华人网欢迎网友表达自己的观点,但不是任何政党、任何政治势力、任何组织和个人宣传、兜售自己政治观点的地方。请有关人士,自重!也欢迎广大网友积极举报。
二,针对越来越多的网友反映自己发帖“被小团伙围攻”、发什么帖都会被固定几个ID“揪斗”的情况,欢迎积极举报。站方会根据举报人的发帖情况,数据分析(包括但不限于被举报人针对举报人所发帖的赞踩分析及回帖态度等)做出判断,如果发现的确有对人不对贴的“围攻”、“揪斗”等网络霸凌、网络暴力等情况,一律从严处理至永久销号。任何网友正常发言、发帖都应有免于恐惧和被恫吓的自由。
三,面对中国国内造成严重生命和财产损失的自然灾害(洪水,地震等),公开表达“天谴中国”及相关诅咒中国和中国报应论的,在华人版面上公开宣传、认可并支持“Chinese Virus”说法的,一律永久销号处理。欢迎广大网友积极举报。
四,针对日渐增多的凭空污蔑指责华人网、华人版务,“拿钱”了,被“蓝金黄”,“被收买了”等等不负责任的诽谤性言论,如果有违法的确凿证据,欢迎向美国有关部门举报!如果有为美国法律界和传媒界能接受并发布的真实证据(财务转账,通信内容等),也可以在华人网张贴出,华人网接受监督。但如果仅凭一张嘴,凭个人喜怒,凭个人感觉污蔑华人网和华人版务工作的,所有马甲和大衣大号一律立即且永久销号处理。对版务工作有意见,可以在意见版专版表达,在其他版面干扰正常版面的,尤其是在完全不相干的网友贴子中,屡次插播表达自己个人政治观点、挑起和发泄对版务工作不满的,一律从严处理至永久销号。
五,同一用户超过N个马甲的(N>5)的,会逐步限制新马甲发言和登录。如果有马甲(尤其仿其他用户的变形虫ID)故意或专门用来违反版规(因和他人观点不同,发布污言秽语、人身攻击、恫吓其他网友,泄露华人网友在现实生活中隐私等等帖子),所有马甲、大衣大号将一同被永久销号处理。对违规网友处理并告知其个人处理理由后,通过各种私下群,呼朋唤友前来质疑和否定版务,纠缠版务工作的,质疑纠缠版务者一律从严处理至永久销号。华人网处理违规用户,是通过数据分析,依据该账号历来发帖的被举报次数,违规次数等综合做出判断,不是仅凭一次、两次违规做出。
六,以上违规情节恶劣者,将通过锁定IP等方式永久禁止访问华人。
华人网是北美和海外华人交流情感、交流学习、工作和生活体验为主的生活类网站,华人网力所能及的保障广大网友的发言自由和个人隐私,也请大家珍惜、爱护本网站,也欢迎广大网友善意的批评和指正。
本公告自公布之日起生效,谢谢!
超级版主10 发表于 2020-07-15 11:32

赞同限制马甲。其实网霸就那么几个,掐断源头,网站的整体氛围就会好很多。
姑逢獙獙
你的战友说的是后者,呵呵
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:39

抱歉我只是一个路人,战友这种东西只有那些疯狂注册马甲拉群id才有。说谁谁知道,看看哪些人对新版规跳脚就行了
f
fitzroy
没问你问,问站务呢。你是站务吗?
kominu 发表于 2020-07-15 12:41

你问的驴头不对马嘴,故意偷换概念,你应该问“House N”能不能说。Nword不能说根本没有异议,那还问什么?
p
pusheen2020
well,this is a good question
wolwolwol 发表于 2020-07-15 12:42

😂😂😂
超级版主10
建议改成 面对中国以及美国国内造成严重生命和财产损失的自然灾害以及事故(洪水,地震,飓风,枪击,新冠等),公开表达“天谴中国”“天谴美国““求仁得仁“及相关诅咒报应论的,在华人版面上公开宣传、认可并支持“Chinese Virus”“美国放毒”说法的,一律永久销号处理。欢迎广大网友积极举报。
小喵呜 发表于 2020-07-15 12:47

谢谢,欢迎补充。会转交给管理团队讨论。
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pusheen2020
抱歉我只是一个路人,战友这种东西只有那些疯狂注册马甲拉群id才有。说谁谁知道,看看哪些人对新版规跳脚就行了
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:47

切换时别切错了
f
fitzroy
Chinese Virus中国人病毒 是对世界上所有华人无差别的攻击。 除了川普和川粉,所有人都认为这是种族歧视语言,美国民主党抨击了这是对华人诋毁。
华人川粉为了挺川普,不惜攻击自己种族是virus。不断重复,这是很恶劣的。自己下一代天天在校园被人追着骂virus。 名为捍卫华人利益,其实捍卫川普利益,出卖华人利益
N
N0matterwhat
歪哥,请你眨眨眼
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fitzroy
重复del
e
express77
抱歉我只是一个路人,战友这种东西只有那些疯狂注册马甲拉群id才有。说谁谁知道,看看哪些人对新版规跳脚就行了
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 12:47

不是战友帮他解释?我不过帮着版主举报ID你眼里就是跳脚,真好笑。一说查马甲你就不敢来
y
ysunny
请问这种帖子算违反版规吗?
T
Treetea
太好了 huaren再不好好管理不好玩了
O
Olympian
重复del
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:52

那请你解释为什么chinese virus是对自己种族的诋毁,所以必须被封。但是黄皮二等公民,这个就没有相应的惩罚?不是对全世界华人,而是只针对国外华人(尤其是美国华人),可以接受,不算恶劣行为?
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express77
你问的驴头不对马嘴,故意偷换概念,你应该问“House N”能不能说。Nword不能说根本没有异议,那还问什么?
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:47

The term has been used to demean individuals,[6][7] in critiques of attitudes within the African-American community,
你看得懂吗?
b
baymom
重复del
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:52

no one needs you to take the offense on his/her behalf. i personally think it’s offensive, but other ppl have their rights to make decisions for themselves, they don’t need your interpretation.
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789
特殊时期,关于处理相关帖子和违规ID的最新公告
华人网独立运营至今,历经多年艰辛,在广大网友的信任、厚爱和支持下,成长为海外独立的、有一定影响力且为数不多的享有言论自由的中文网站,个中艰辛和压力,实属不易。
近期,面对一些新情况。补充相关版务如下:
一,华人马甲用户最新一定时期内频繁且只是发布(或绝大多数发帖和回帖)宣传固定政治观点贴【包括并不限于,只发布中国负面新闻,只发布美国负面新闻,只发布支持自己政治观点和只发布打击与自己观点不同的帖子】,对华人网其他内容毫无兴趣参与,严重影响广大华人网友正常浏览的,一律连同大衣大号永久销号处理。华人网欢迎网友表达自己的观点,但不是任何政党、任何政治势力、任何组织和个人宣传、兜售自己政治观点的地方。请有关人士,自重!也欢迎广大网友积极举报。
二,针对越来越多的网友反映自己发帖“被小团伙围攻”、发什么帖都会被固定几个ID“揪斗”的情况,欢迎积极举报。站方会根据举报人的发帖情况,数据分析(包括但不限于被举报人针对举报人所发帖的赞踩分析及回帖态度等)做出判断,如果发现的确有对人不对贴的“围攻”、“揪斗”等网络霸凌、网络暴力等情况,一律从严处理至永久销号。任何网友正常发言、发帖都应有免于恐惧和被恫吓的自由。
三,面对中国国内造成严重生命和财产损失的自然灾害(洪水,地震等),公开表达“天谴中国”及相关诅咒中国和中国报应论的,在华人版面上公开宣传、认可并支持“Chinese Virus”说法的,一律永久销号处理。欢迎广大网友积极举报。
四,针对日渐增多的凭空污蔑指责华人网、华人版务,“拿钱”了,被“蓝金黄”,“被收买了”等等不负责任的诽谤性言论,如果有违法的确凿证据,欢迎向美国有关部门举报!如果有为美国法律界和传媒界能接受并发布的真实证据(财务转账,通信内容等),也可以在华人网张贴出,华人网接受监督。但如果仅凭一张嘴,凭个人喜怒,凭个人感觉污蔑华人网和华人版务工作的,所有马甲和大衣大号一律立即且永久销号处理。对版务工作有意见,可以在意见版专版表达,在其他版面干扰正常版面的,尤其是在完全不相干的网友贴子中,屡次插播表达自己个人政治观点、挑起和发泄对版务工作不满的,一律从严处理至永久销号。
五,同一用户超过N个马甲的(N>5)的,会逐步限制新马甲发言和登录。如果有马甲(尤其仿其他用户的变形虫ID)故意或专门用来违反版规(因和他人观点不同,发布污言秽语、人身攻击、恫吓其他网友,泄露华人网友在现实生活中隐私等等帖子),所有马甲、大衣大号将一同被永久销号处理。对违规网友处理并告知其个人处理理由后,通过各种私下群,呼朋唤友前来质疑和否定版务,纠缠版务工作的,质疑纠缠版务者一律从严处理至永久销号。华人网处理违规用户,是通过数据分析,依据该账号历来发帖的被举报次数,违规次数等综合做出判断,不是仅凭一次、两次违规做出。
六,以上违规情节恶劣者,将通过锁定IP等方式永久禁止访问华人。
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超级版主10 发表于 2020-07-15 11:32

超版要执法封号可以,但监督应该是双向的,所有的删帖封号应该有个版面公示,哪一位版主以什么理由封谁。
姑逢獙獙
不是战友帮他解释?我不过帮着版主举报ID你眼里就是跳脚,真好笑。一说查马甲你就不敢来
express77 发表于 2020-07-15 12:53

呵呵 Paranoid personality disorder (PPD) is a mental illness characterized by paranoid delusions, and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. People with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily insulted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. They are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other interpretations or evidence.
潜水的鱼
希望也祝福你们能坚持保持独立营运。
木牛流马
支持版主!感谢!
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kominu
你问的驴头不对马嘴,故意偷换概念,你应该问“House N”能不能说。Nword不能说根本没有异议,那还问什么?
fitzroy 发表于 2020-07-15 12:47

既然你这么爱替站务回答问题,那你就直接回答,你到底有没有说过N word?有就是有,没有就是没有,至于你是对是错,不是你自己可以评判的。
贝贝龙
支持版主!
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express77
呵呵 Paranoid personality disorder (PPD) is a mental illness characterized by paranoid delusions, and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. People with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily insulted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. They are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other interpretations or evidence.
姑逢獙獙 发表于 2020-07-15 13:01

呵呵,这段话送给你,污蔑人是你擅长的,你那些侮辱人的图片还在呢。你们几个ID集中在意见版的也在
言欢
超版,这个帖子只是移版处理是吗?
管理层的态度就是辱骂北美华人随便骂,只不过换个没人的版面骂就好了的意思?
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2573368&fid=384
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Tuliptree001
以我这么浅的资历,都看出来有些ID在这混着是目的性很强的带节奏的,虽天天被粉拳狠砸但仍坚持岗位的有很大狱民嫌疑的ID。版主但凡有一点爱版之心都该去查下这些人的IP有问题木有。如果是关系户那当我没说。
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might
原来的版规不好好执行,你再发布100条新版规也没有用。 或者说本来就没有好好执行的想法,只不过是现印一个橡皮图章,目的是封一批人的口。
就像一开始,我记得版规是“发布重大新闻必须要有source,否则删帖”。 还真有版主蹲点,什么30秒内不回复source就删贴。 这当然是病毒在中国传播的时候,后来传到美国版主突然就不管了,假消息随便放。
然后又来出一个新规定,说注册不超过两年不准发政治话题,趁机禁言了一大批人。 然后到现在,基本上就是那几个廊坊新ID在发政治贴,每天一个刷版,有人投诉了,版主反问:“发的好,讨论热烈,为什么删?”
现在又有新规定,什么Chinese Virus 一律永久销号。 之前“美华吃核爆”好像又没人管了,有网友投诉了近一个礼拜,仅仅是删帖了事。
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neolaga
原来的版规不好好执行,你再发布100条新版规也没有用。 或者说本来就没有好好执行的想法,只不过是现印一个橡皮图章,目的是封一批人的口。
就像一开始,我记得版规是“发布重大新闻必须要有source,否则删帖”。 还真有版主蹲点,什么30秒内不回复source就删贴。 这当然是病毒在中国传播的时候,后来传到美国版主突然就不管了,假消息随便放。
然后又来出一个新规定,说注册不超过两年不准发政治话题,趁机禁言了一大批人。 然后到现在,基本上就是那几个廊坊新ID在发政治贴,每天一个刷版,有人投诉了,版主反问:“发的好,讨论热烈,为什么删?”
现在又有新规定,什么Chinese Virus 一律永久销号。 之前“美华吃核爆”好像又没人管了,有网友投诉了近一个礼拜,仅仅是删帖了事。
might 发表于 2020-07-15 13:05

教科书的双标,然后被质疑,就封id了事。
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vivi1
是啊,说chinese virus就封号,那说美军投毒的是不是要一样处理?
pusheen2020 发表于 2020-07-15 11:48

请站房对说美军投毒的, 公布官方立场, 要不网友是否有权举报华人网站房帮助国内政府散布谣言?
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Fishingpost
超版,这个帖子只是移版处理是吗?
管理层的态度就是辱骂北美华人随便骂,只不过换个没人的版面骂就好了的意思?
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2573368&fid=384
言欢 发表于 2020-07-15 13:04

这个帖子从头到尾歧视华人都没事?反过来的话永久封ID了!
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vivi1
还有为什么站方不可以公布IP , 对于国内翻墙者引起网友警惕
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ocmom1
我觉得咱们就该拉个只有北美华人上的网站,让这帮五毛自己在为名文学城和华人high去
Foodstar 发表于 2020-07-15 12:17

支持你。。
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vivi1
支持你。。
ocmom1 发表于 2020-07-15 13:10

支持######