President Donald Trump launched headlong into his push to reopen the country on Tuesday, saying Americans should begin returning to their everyday lives even if it leads to more sickness and death from the pandemic.
Trump, speaking in Phoenix during his first trip outside Washington in more than a month, said he’s preparing for “phase two” of the U.S. response to the coronavirus. That will include disbanding the White House task force of public health experts, including Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx, that have steered the government response to the outbreak so far.
Trump acknowledged that reopening the economy would likely lead to more suffering.
“Will some people be affected? Yes. Will some people be affected badly? Yes,” Trump said. “But we have to get our country open and we have to get it open soon.”
A man walks across the empty atrium of a shopping mall in Manhattan on May 5. Photographer: Bryan Thomas/Getty Images On his visit to a Phoenix-based Honeywell International Inc. factory producing medical masks, Trump made his most forceful case yet that the economic damage to the country has become too great to sustain an extended shutdown. He encouraged Americans to think of themselves as “warriors” as they consider leaving their homes, a tacit acknowledgment of deep public reservations about re-opening the country too soon. The president has expressed increasing frustration with the coronavirus-sparked recession that has put more than 30 million Americans out of work and hurt his case for a second term. The U.S. continues to sport the largest coronavirus outbreak in the world, with about 1.2 million people infected and more than 70,000 killed so far. Speaking separately in an ABC News interview that aired Tuesday evening, Trump said closing down the nation was “the biggest decision I’ve ever had to make.” And he was resolute about the decision to reopen the nation, despite the certainty of suffering it will cause until a vaccine is developed. “There’ll be more death,” he said. “The virus will pass, with or without a vaccine. And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.” “But it’s been a rough process. There is no question about it,” Trump said. “I think our economy is going to be raging” next year, he added. No Face Mask While in Phoenix, Trump encouraged states to ease social-distancing measures and allow businesses to reopen, though he cautioned that it should be done “safely.” Yet, the president declined to set an example for the nation by engaging in one government-recommended safety protocol himself: wearing a face mask. As he toured the Honeywell plant, Trump wore only safety goggles. Music from his standard campaign rally soundtrack played over loudspeakers, including Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” and Guns N’ Roses’s “Live and Let Die.” Senior White House officials also did not don the masks, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend when social distancing isn’t possible. Factory workers, members of the press and other support staff did. Trump also lamented that he had to stand six feet apart from two supporters during his speech, including one who was wearing a sequined denim vest with his campaign slogan. Trump said that “doctors” he didn’t name had advised him to close the economy “for a couple of years.” “I created, with a lot of other very talented people and the people of our country, the greatest economy in the history of the world. The greatest that we’ve ever had,” Trump said. “And then one day they said, ‘we have to close our country.’ Well, now it’s time to open up.” Public-health experts have repeatedly warned the country risks a second wave of infections if restrictions are lifted too early, which could lead to another round of shutdowns and economic damage. Models ‘So Wrong’ But even as Trump said a full-scale re-opening could lead to more deaths, he expressed optimism the virus would go away. And he added that if cases do rebound, it would be like a “fire” that could be extinguished “fast.” He also dismissed two new projections that painted a gruesome picture of what could happen if the country lifts shutdown orders too quickly: a Johns Hopkins University model showing deaths could reach 3,000 per day by June 1 and a University of Washington analysis showing the U.S. death toll could reach 135,000 by the beginning of August. “These models have been so wrong from day one. Both on the low side and the upside. They’ve been so wrong, they’ve been so out of whack. And they keep making new models, new models and they’re wrong,” the president said. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said earlier Tuesday the Johns Hopkins model, included in a government document obtained Monday by the New York Times, relied on “faulty assumptions” about mitigation efforts and didn’t represent federal government projections. “The people of our country are warriors,” Trump said of Americans, some 69% of whom are “somewhat” or “very” worried about contracting Covid-19, according to an analysis of polls by fivethirtyeight.com. Vice President Mike Pence said earlier Tuesday the White House has begun discussing disbanding the coronavirus task force that has advised Trump on the federal response to the outbreak, a move that could happen as soon as later this month. “Mike Pence and the task force have done a great job, but we’re now looking at a little bit of a different form and that form is safety and opening. And we’ll have a different group, probably, set up for that,” Trump said in Phoenix. When asked if the move meant he considers the mission of combating the virus to be accomplished, Trump replied: “No.” — With assistance by Josh Wingrove https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-05/trump-says-u-s-must-reopen-even-if-more-americans-get-sick?sref=81kNl4PT
A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS oppose the reopening of a variety of businesses amid the coronavirus pandemic and nearly 4 in 10 believe that the worst of the pandemic is yet to come, a new poll released Tuesday found. The results come as states across the country loosen shelter-in-place restrictions and allow restaurants, retail stores and other businesses to reopen, in some cases against the advice of public health experts. Two-thirds of Americans believe that retail shops should remain closed in their state, and 74% say restaurants should remain shuttered to dine-in customers as well, [size=1.125]according to a Washington Post-University of Maryland poll that asked respondents about the reopening of eight different types of businesses. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-widespread-economic-hardship-most-americans-not-ready-to-reopen-poll-says Despite widespread economic hardship, most Americans not ready to reopen, poll says
A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS oppose the reopening of a variety of businesses amid the coronavirus pandemic and nearly 4 in 10 believe that the worst of the pandemic is yet to come, a new poll released Tuesday found. The results come as states across the country loosen shelter-in-place restrictions and allow restaurants, retail stores and other businesses to reopen, in some cases against the advice of public health experts. 落地无声 发表于 5/5/2020 8:50:11 PM
Fake news.
a. gun stores 29 70 * b. dine-in restaurants 26 74 * c. nail salons 25 74 * d. barber shops and hair salons 31 69 * e. retail shops, such as clothing stores 34 66 * f. gyms 22 78 * g. golf courses 41 59 * h. movie theaters
Trump, speaking in Phoenix during his first trip outside Washington in more than a month, said he’s preparing for “phase two” of the U.S. response to the coronavirus. That will include disbanding the White House task force of public health experts, including Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx, that have steered the government response to the outbreak so far.
Trump acknowledged that reopening the economy would likely lead to more suffering.
“Will some people be affected? Yes. Will some people be affected badly? Yes,” Trump said. “But we have to get our country open and we have to get it open soon.”
A man walks across the empty atrium of a shopping mall in Manhattan on May 5.
Photographer: Bryan Thomas/Getty Images
On his visit to a Phoenix-based Honeywell International Inc. factory producing medical masks, Trump made his most forceful case yet that the economic damage to the country has become too great to sustain an extended shutdown. He encouraged Americans to think of themselves as “warriors” as they consider leaving their homes, a tacit acknowledgment of deep public reservations about re-opening the country too soon. The president has expressed increasing frustration with the coronavirus-sparked recession that has put more than 30 million Americans out of work and hurt his case for a second term. The U.S. continues to sport the largest coronavirus outbreak in the world, with about 1.2 million people infected and more than 70,000 killed so far. Speaking separately in an ABC News interview that aired Tuesday evening, Trump said closing down the nation was “the biggest decision I’ve ever had to make.” And he was resolute about the decision to reopen the nation, despite the certainty of suffering it will cause until a vaccine is developed. “There’ll be more death,” he said. “The virus will pass, with or without a vaccine. And I think we’re doing very well on the vaccines but, with or without a vaccine, it’s going to pass, and we’re going to be back to normal.” “But it’s been a rough process. There is no question about it,” Trump said. “I think our economy is going to be raging” next year, he added. No Face Mask While in Phoenix, Trump encouraged states to ease social-distancing measures and allow businesses to reopen, though he cautioned that it should be done “safely.” Yet, the president declined to set an example for the nation by engaging in one government-recommended safety protocol himself: wearing a face mask. As he toured the Honeywell plant, Trump wore only safety goggles. Music from his standard campaign rally soundtrack played over loudspeakers, including Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” and Guns N’ Roses’s “Live and Let Die.” Senior White House officials also did not don the masks, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend when social distancing isn’t possible. Factory workers, members of the press and other support staff did. Trump also lamented that he had to stand six feet apart from two supporters during his speech, including one who was wearing a sequined denim vest with his campaign slogan. Trump said that “doctors” he didn’t name had advised him to close the economy “for a couple of years.” “I created, with a lot of other very talented people and the people of our country, the greatest economy in the history of the world. The greatest that we’ve ever had,” Trump said. “And then one day they said, ‘we have to close our country.’ Well, now it’s time to open up.” Public-health experts have repeatedly warned the country risks a second wave of infections if restrictions are lifted too early, which could lead to another round of shutdowns and economic damage. Models ‘So Wrong’ But even as Trump said a full-scale re-opening could lead to more deaths, he expressed optimism the virus would go away. And he added that if cases do rebound, it would be like a “fire” that could be extinguished “fast.” He also dismissed two new projections that painted a gruesome picture of what could happen if the country lifts shutdown orders too quickly: a Johns Hopkins University model showing deaths could reach 3,000 per day by June 1 and a University of Washington analysis showing the U.S. death toll could reach 135,000 by the beginning of August. “These models have been so wrong from day one. Both on the low side and the upside. They’ve been so wrong, they’ve been so out of whack. And they keep making new models, new models and they’re wrong,” the president said. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said earlier Tuesday the Johns Hopkins model, included in a government document obtained Monday by the New York Times, relied on “faulty assumptions” about mitigation efforts and didn’t represent federal government projections. “The people of our country are warriors,” Trump said of Americans, some 69% of whom are “somewhat” or “very” worried about contracting Covid-19, according to an analysis of polls by fivethirtyeight.com. Vice President Mike Pence said earlier Tuesday the White House has begun discussing disbanding the coronavirus task force that has advised Trump on the federal response to the outbreak, a move that could happen as soon as later this month. “Mike Pence and the task force have done a great job, but we’re now looking at a little bit of a different form and that form is safety and opening. And we’ll have a different group, probably, set up for that,” Trump said in Phoenix. When asked if the move meant he considers the mission of combating the virus to be accomplished, Trump replied: “No.” — With assistance by Josh Wingrove
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-05/trump-says-u-s-must-reopen-even-if-more-americans-get-sick?sref=81kNl4PT
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这些人真的不怕，上周六老公戴着口罩去Costco, 前面一个看着上年纪的老头不戴口罩，和他聊了一下，人家根本不怕，因为第二天costco 要求戴口罩，他气得不得了。我们firm的大老板（肯定上70了）宣布这个月末要飞到密西根去开会， 我都觉得难道只有我们华人担心？看着每天数字都在涨，都没感觉？是文化背景不一样？难怪Lockdown 就是个几不像
现在嚷嚷着复工的还不是觉得死的都是老头老太，然后觉得不死也留不下后遗症，更觉得轮不到自己和家人头上呗。现在想工作挣钱的很多地方在招人啊，没人拦着不让去啊。wfh干全部的活，干嘛领60%？
是。前几个星期是um几个campus都是hiring freeze，自愿furlough。这个星期，医院就开始强制furlough和裁员，留下来的退休账户也不给match了。
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🛋️ 沙发板凳
平均死亡年纪八十多，如果上限一百岁的话，下限六十，跟大部分需要上班的人没有关系。
孩子，我们珍爱生命，但是更爱钱
为了钱，我们可以不要命，Amen
你怎么知道他大选poll落后了？猪党的民调？
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多养孩子多赚钱，哈哈
经济扛不住了呗，再不开放，经济就全完了。美国这种半封城状态也是蛮痛苦的，要不就严格一定，大家集体搞两个月清零，经济也没办法恢复。美国最失误就是一开始没有堵住，本来跟澳大利亚，新西兰，台湾一样，可以占得先机严防死守的。前面断航不彻底，后面试剂盒又研发失败，再后来又要死不活各方为政的居家两三个月，到现在反正降不下来了，还不如开工算了。
Poll: Most Americans Oppose Reopening BusinessesAn overwhelming majority of Amercians say businesses like dine-in restaurants, gyms and salons should remain closed, despite the easing of restrictions in many states.https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-05-05/poll-most-americans-oppose-reopening-businesses-amid-coronavirus-pandemic
A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS oppose the reopening of a variety of businesses amid the coronavirus pandemic and nearly 4 in 10 believe that the worst of the pandemic is yet to come, a new poll released Tuesday found.
The results come as states across the country loosen shelter-in-place restrictions and allow restaurants, retail stores and other businesses to reopen, in some cases against the advice of public health experts.
Two-thirds of Americans believe that retail shops should remain closed in their state, and 74% say restaurants should remain shuttered to dine-in customers as well, [size=1.125]according to a Washington Post-University of Maryland poll that asked respondents about the reopening of eight different types of businesses. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-widespread-economic-hardship-most-americans-not-ready-to-reopen-poll-says Despite widespread economic hardship, most Americans not ready to reopen, poll says
他们只care还没出生的。。。。。
如果连几个大的polling机构和数字都不知道哪里看，就不用来这里秀智商了
华人的民意就是两口子悠哉WFH拿全额工资，不用担心裁员，也不用担心减薪。有这么好的事儿谁希望reopen啊？
如果其它产业不恢复，IT 早晚会被波及的。不能太短视。
能在家工作很幸运，但要知道整个国家经济不是靠这几个能在家工作的人撑起来的
Excuse me? 先吐为快
不如用SSN尾数来分配0到9号上班
不死就没事了？年轻人留下大白肺生殖系统受损不知道吗？儿童川崎病没听说吗？
你是说上班的人都和你一样，没有家人？
可是要做好防护吧，必须要戴口罩啊
真是让人醉了！你们真的相信那些死亡的人都是60-100岁的吗？用脚趾头想一想，美国总共有多少人，有那么多的100岁的老人去和60岁均摊吗？有那么多的80岁左右的老人用来每天死亡几千几千的吗？
根据休斯顿纪事报对德州的数据分析，德州超过40%的冠状病毒相关死亡病例与疗养院和辅助生活中心有关。
该审查发现，截至4月28日周二，33%的与COVID-19相关的死亡人数与nursing home有关，另有9%的死亡人数与辅助生活设施有关。
据德州卫生与公众服务委员会称，截至周一，至少有231例与冠状病毒相关的死亡病例是在护理机构中，至少有59人在辅助生活设施中死亡。在德州，截至周一，共有282家护理设施报告了冠状病毒病例，占全州所有持证设施的23%；共有85家辅助生活设施有病例，占全州所有设施的4%。
另一部分餐厅堂吃内容些到：
食客们在不吃饭时也应强烈考虑戴上面罩，以防止病毒传播。
上面的那些数据是想让老百姓知道，死亡人数中有超过40%的人是老年人，这些死亡人数有27%是来自于服务机构，目的是让人放心的出去消费。有脑子的人就会想到那些没写出来的将近60%和73%的死亡数据是来自于什么人，什么机构，那才是真正的大多数，那才是普通人和各行各业好吗！！！
餐馆在吃饭的时候不传播对吗？吃完饭强烈要求戴口罩，如果真的有病毒就太迟了！！！可笑的规定！
It’s a question of pro whose lives. 版上每天的争吵，全世界现在的争吵，人类社会几千年来发展都是围绕这个主题进行的。绝大部分人屁股决定脑袋，外加少量的恶人和更少量的圣母。
怎么知道接下来不会死青壮年？建议支持马上复工的人先给大家打头阵
为了你们州的税收，要不先开出一个牺牲品名单吧，你觉得谁是牺牲品？
本来就是， 有什么不好承认的？ 这又不是考思想品德社会主义素养教育。
的确是，试剂盒简直是美国的耻辱，后来的居家令也是大部分靠自觉
这都是短期的，长期经济停摆，最后也会影响high tech
essential行业的基本都是亲壮年呀。 你出门去超市，那不都是。INSTACART什么代购的也是亲壮年。 所以其实很多青壮年人家就没停工。
倾巢之下，焉有完卵。有些人站在食物链顶端，抗击能力强一些罢了。但是食物链垮了，无论站在哪儿也跑不了的。
那是因为还有很多人在家呆着，所以他们即使工作也相对安全一些。等全开放了再试试看？媒体已经在给大家提前预警了，这一个月要确诊和死更多人。我发现美国的方法就是提前透风，比如提前告诉你要死10万，然后真死了10万大家也觉得无所谓了，少死了不仅觉得是good job, 更有人忙不迭来洗地
你也不用这么担心，世界上有很多国家比美国先复工的，美国之内也有很多比麻州先复工的，到底会不会大量死50岁以下的，很快就有结论了。不会别的地方不死，单单麻州死青壮年的。
麻州现在平均死亡的年龄是82岁，咱们看看一个月之后会不会降到80岁。
“ 要不就严格一定，大家集体搞两个月清零，”
病毒清不了零，严格隔离只是暂时阻断传播。这个版上讨论过多次了。
所以啊先复工的就是给别人当小白鼠嘛。现在嚷嚷着要复工的自己愿意去当没人拦着啊
就是这样的，总要有人做小白鼠的，This is life。绝对的safe and security是不存在的。
能躲在键盘上，我也希望躲在键盘上，不过键盘长不出饭来啊，你说咋办？
食物链顶端为什么抗击能力就强？难道食物链顶端不用吃食物似的，或者因为除了自己都能吃？
那就自己去当小白鼠好了，不幸中了也是求仁得仁。只不过可能会有无辜的人因为这些小白鼠倒霉。
真是天底下最大的笑话，你说这个你主子都不同意呢
我们公司的大头头一直都在上班
不是怎么办，而是不办！你要说一个国家不能办成lockdown or 戴口罩，那当我放屁。
这是对的。即使是码农，怎么写程序，也得让客户满意，不能说自己想怎么来就怎么来。
Fake news.
a. gun stores 29 70 *
b. dine-in restaurants 26 74 *
c. nail salons 25 74 *
d. barber shops and hair salons 31 69 *
e. retail shops, such as clothing stores 34 66 *
f. gyms 22 78 *
g. golf courses 41 59 *
h. movie theaters
这个调查只包括了一部分第三产业，故意造成人们不支持的印象。事实上人们更关注一些其它方面，好比学校，工厂，公司等等。左逼为了反川而反川已经丧心病狂了。
老人有专门的购物时间，算是措施之一了吧？其他还能做什么呢？只能是自己尽量不出去。
年轻人都跟着不出门工作，能有多大的帮助？
这个世界总有人无辜的，但是现在这个情况，实在没法为了避免一小部分的人无辜而道德绑架绝大多数人。
你不想复工，也没有人能强迫你复工。有很多人自愿当小白鼠，也不能挡着不让人当。
最简单的解决办法就是复工拿全额工资，WFH拿60%保留全职同等福利，这样既可以保证大多数人有饭吃，也可以更大程度上避免无辜。
咱俩是同城，所以还是就事论事的好。
但是老人院这些地方，又不是因为别人复工所以变成那样的，不能怪罪在别人想复工上面啊。
你在密歇根吗？听说UM的医院已经裁员减薪了，建新医院的项目也暂停了。
再怎么说隐瞒实情，国内也没有死7、8万吧，而且还准备死10万20万，这根本不是少数人。
实际呢？！
是。前几个星期是um几个campus都是hiring freeze，自愿furlough。这个星期，医院就开始强制furlough和裁员，留下来的退休账户也不给match了。
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