所以其实一部分NRA也是在美国工作交税的，就被遗忘了哈哈 juliamarie 发表于 4/15/2020 7:35:37 AM
我在irs官网上没有看到前5年一定是non-resident alien的说法。我找到的条款和我的理解是: （1）If you do not timely file Form 8843, you cannot exclude the days you were present in the U.S. as an exempt individual 如果你没file Form 8843，那你就可以过 substantial presence test，你就可以成为resident alien了。 (2) In some cases aliens are allowed to make elections which override the green card test and the substantial presence test 而且tax treaty override substantial presence test 不是强制的
我在irs官网上没有看到前5年一定是non-resident alien的说法。我找到的条款和我的理解是: （1）If you do not timely file Form 8843, you cannot exclude the days you were present in the U.S. as an exempt individual 如果你没file Form 8843，那你就可以过 substantial presence test，你就可以成为resident alien了。 (2) In some cases aliens are allowed to make elections which override the green card test and the substantial presence test 而且tax treaty override substantial presence test 不是强制的
Felix_J 发表于 4/15/2020 12:33:54 PM
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/resident-aliens Exempt Individual Do not count days for which you are an exempt individual. The term "exempt individual" does not refer to someone exempt from U.S. tax, but to anyone in the following categories: An individual temporarily present in the U.S. as a foreign government-related individual under an “A” or “G” visa, other than individuals holding “A-3” or “G-5” class visas. A teacher or trainee temporarily present in the U.S. under a "J" or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa. A student temporarily present in the U.S. under an "F," "J," "M," or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa. A professional athlete temporarily in the U.S. to compete in a charitable sports event.
When a Student is Not Exempt You will not be an exempt individual as a student if you have been exempt as a teacher, trainee, student, Exchange Visitor, or Cultural Exchange Visitor on an "F, " "J, " "M, " or "Q " visa for any part of more than 5 calendar years, unless you establish to the satisfaction of the IRS that you do not intend to reside permanently in the United States, and you have substantially complied with the requirements of your nonimmigrant status.
F1 after 5 years is residence alien for tax purposes. It’s not real residence alien. Same apples that you are treated as Single for tax purpose when you are F1 student even you are married.
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/resident-aliens Exempt Individual Do not count days for which you are an exempt individual. The term "exempt individual" does not refer to someone exempt from U.S. tax, but to anyone in the following categories: An individual temporarily present in the U.S. as a foreign government-related individual under an “A” or “G” visa, other than individuals holding “A-3” or “G-5” class visas. A teacher or trainee temporarily present in the U.S. under a "J" or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa. A student temporarily present in the U.S. under an "F," "J," "M," or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa. A professional athlete temporarily in the U.S. to compete in a charitable sports event.
When a Student is Not Exempt You will not be an exempt individual as a student if you have been exempt as a teacher, trainee, student, Exchange Visitor, or Cultural Exchange Visitor on an "F, " "J, " "M, " or "Q " visa for any part of more than 5 calendar years, unless you establish to the satisfaction of the IRS that you do not intend to reside permanently in the United States, and you have substantially complied with the requirements of your nonimmigrant status.
还一嘴炮就露馅。。。。。一边吹50万的贫困线美华个个高级码工，结果今天羡慕低收入，明天羡慕食品券，后天羡慕F1.。。。。。
好像你没在美国读过书
F1退税基本都门清。。。。。确实因为穷。。。。。到点圈子里奔走相告，记得要填treaty! 不想知道都不行。
就是啥都不记得，能连用的什么表都不知道？没读过书的，就别装了。
我在irs官网上没有看到前5年一定是non-resident alien的说法。我找到的条款和我的理解是:
（1）If you do not timely file Form 8843, you cannot exclude the days you were present in the U.S. as an exempt individual
如果你没file Form 8843，那你就可以过 substantial presence test，你就可以成为resident alien了。
(2) In some cases aliens are allowed to make elections which override the green card test and the substantial presence test
而且tax treaty override substantial presence test 不是强制的
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/resident-aliens
Exempt Individual Do not count days for which you are an exempt individual. The term "exempt individual" does not refer to someone exempt from U.S. tax, but to anyone in the following categories:
An individual temporarily present in the U.S. as a foreign government-related individual under an “A” or “G” visa, other than individuals holding “A-3” or “G-5” class visas.
A teacher or trainee temporarily present in the U.S. under a "J" or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa.
A student temporarily present in the U.S. under an "F," "J," "M," or "Q" visa, who substantially complies with the requirements of the visa.
A professional athlete temporarily in the U.S. to compete in a charitable sports event.
When a Student is Not Exempt You will not be an exempt individual as a student if you have been exempt as a teacher, trainee, student, Exchange Visitor, or Cultural Exchange Visitor on an "F, " "J, " "M, " or "Q " visa for any part of more than 5 calendar years, unless you establish to the satisfaction of the IRS that you do not intend to reside permanently in the United States, and you have substantially complied with the requirements of your nonimmigrant status.
每个州对这个的定义不一样。。。。。
如果是加州的话，记得州税不承认这个treaty哦，所以联邦税减过之后记得在州税的other income那里加5000，对，确实很多人没加5000也没事，但是是错的。
Exemption 的前提是你file 8843 表，否者你的exemption不生效。
嗯，同意。政策总会有些漏洞，对大多数人公平即可。
住1米大house，但收入低于7万五的，疫情期间难道还能不给人发这笔钱，总不能叫人卖了房子生活吧 挣七万五的为什么买一米的房子，把自己不能承担的高消费压力转移给全民？人挣三十万买一米的房子也会因为没有了工作也只能卖房子，irs也给他们钱？
放心吧，今年已经基本没啥留学生了，明年更不会有，看这方向早跑了，估计少说两三年都没了。虽然不知道国际学生学费这块缺了去哪找补，但不用担心给什么一千二了。
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
你自己没五年之内念完过博士就别在这哔哔。敲字谁不会。
越是大藤越容易久....当然大藤也有很多牛人四年毕业
层主好人。。
国际学生只来读书不交税的也收不到这钱
有些f1没有奖学金，也不打工，不用报税，不知道也不奇 。
记得F1那会儿还有人把TA，RA按fellowship报的，也不知道后来被查到没有。