我一直不理解对于一百多年前的西班牙流感，这里为什么有那么多人那么清楚的肯定是美国起源的？这次疫情刚开始的时候，看有报道写的时候提到了西班牙流感，我还特意去查了Wikipedia，里面写了几种西班牙流感起源地的理论，按次序是英国，美国，和中国。我理解的是各种理论都有一些依据，但都有其缺陷。有趣的是，关于起源于英国的理论， 有这么一段： report published in 2016 in the Journal of the Chinese Medical Association found evidence that the 1918 virus had been circulating in the European armies for months and possibly years before the 1918 pandemic.中国学者2016年在中国医学协会期刊上发表的文章。
我一直不理解对于一百多年前的西班牙流感，这里为什么有那么多人那么清楚的肯定是美国起源的？这次疫情刚开始的时候，看有报道写的时候提到了西班牙流感，我还特意去查了Wikipedia，里面写了几种西班牙流感起源地的理论，按次序是英国，美国，和中国。我理解的是各种理论都有一些依据，但都有其缺陷。有趣的是，关于起源于英国的理论， 有这么一段： report published in 2016 in the Journal of the Chinese Medical Association found evidence that the 1918 virus had been circulating in the European armies for months and possibly years before the 1918 pandemic.中国学者2016年在中国医学协会期刊上发表的文章。
AIDS was first clinically reported on June 5, 1981, with five cases in the United States.[36][227]The initial cases were a cluster of injecting drug users and homosexual men with no known cause of impaired immunity who showed symptoms of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), a rare opportunistic infection that was known to occur in people with very compromised immune systems.[228] Soon thereafter, an unexpected number of homosexual men developed a previously rare skin cancer called Kaposi's sarcoma (KS).[229][230] Many more cases of PCP and KS emerged, alerting U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and a CDC task force was formed to monitor the outbreak.[231] In the early days, the CDC did not have an official name for the disease, often referring to it by way of the diseases that were associated with it, for example, lymphadenopathy, the disease after which the discoverers of HIV originally named the virus.[232][233] They also used Kaposi's sarcoma and opportunistic infections, the name by which a task force had been set up in 1981.[234] At one point the CDC coined the phrase "the 4H disease", for the syndrome seemed to affect heroin users, homosexuals, hemophiliacs, and Haitians.[235][236] In the general press the term GRID, which stood for gay-related immune deficiency, had been coined.[237] However, after determining that AIDS was not isolated to the gay community,[234] it was realized that the term GRID was misleading, and the term AIDS was introduced at a meeting in July 1982.[238]By September 1982 the CDC started referring to the disease as AIDS.[239] In 1983, two separate research groups led by Robert Gallo and Luc Montagnier declared that a novel retrovirus may have been infecting people with AIDS, and published their findings in the same issue of the journal Science.[240][241] Gallo claimed a virus which his group had isolated from a person with AIDS was strikingly similar in shape to other human T-lymphotropic viruses (HTLVs) that his group had been the first to isolate. Gallo's group called their newly isolated virus HTLV-III. At the same time, Montagnier's group isolated a virus from a person presenting with swelling of the lymph nodes of the neck and physical weakness, two characteristic symptoms of AIDS. Contradicting the report from Gallo's group, Montagnier and his colleagues showed that core proteins of this virus were immunologically different from those of HTLV-I. Montagnier's group named their isolated virus lymphadenopathy-associated virus (LAV).[231] As these two viruses turned out to be the same, in 1986, LAV and HTLV-III were renamed HIV.[242]
+1! 这版没法看了
出门两条街是买买提，文学城，万维，满满的大外宣正能量，去吧
你为何不想想，同样是华人主体，新加玻及台湾为何华人就不恨？一个被人人恨的人，首先要检讨自己。
那厮连国家和政府都没分不清楚，他一定以为在美国恨共和党就是恨美国
你Chinese virus吧？囼巴子议员鼓捣亚裔细分提案，最招人恨
为你点赞👍 哈哈哈 调戏调戏他们就好了 大家都不容易，老百姓，都有家庭的，就为了一口饭！
很不幸台巴子在美国地位比你高，人家双重国籍，台裔美国人在国会和政府的职位都比陆巴子高，赵小兰是共和党领袖的枕边人，陆巴子在美国政界有什么地位吗？陆巴子可以有双重国籍吗？自己地位低就不要抱怨了，做怨妇很丢人的
你想地位高回中国去，保准你做一颗地位高的韭菜
被囼巴子贿赂，当自带狗粮的狗吗？说实在囼巴子对美国的意义，也就是不停冲华人叫的狗而已
很不幸台巴子在美国地位比你高，人家双重国籍，台裔美国人在国会和政府的职位都比陆巴子高，赵小兰是共和党领袖的枕边人，陆巴子在美国政界有什么地位吗？陆巴子可以有双重国籍吗？自己地位低就不要抱怨了，做怨妇很丢人的
你想地位高回中国去，保准你做一颗地位高的韭菜
当狗当出优越感，怨不得你阿姆是自愿的
你自己当狗看别人都和你一样？丢人显眼其实你连狗都不如
俄罗斯和朝鮮到底开放与墻国的辺境了吗？这是个研判疫情重要的指标。
当然没有！俄罗斯是防了中国没防住被中国传染的欧洲，和美国一样！
其实一开始就应该全球所有国家对中国禁航的！可惜WHO给出的建议是不禁航！中国也反对
以前一直说战狼，狼崽子，大家都错了，其实是犬，就是狗
你这种人一看到不站你这边的就觉得别人是五毛 闲话版没你们这帮人才正常!
看来你还是一只疯狗
你才是
你连疯狗都不如，退下吧
这些都是带着任务来的，专门祸害华人的
鲜花版里有你们这些华人在，美华的灾难迟早到来！
台裔美国人也是在美华人，跟大陆美国人也有部分共同利益。翻墙狗就别挑拨了。
只有你们这些囼巴子才整天盼着中美打战，各种亚裔细分祸害在美华人
没说你是五毛啊，只是你既然难受那就去看着不难受的地方，难道你是和我一样，觉得那几个地方更难受，才委屈求全在华人落脚的？
台裔美国人叫台湾人，你们见不得在美华人好的才是囼巴子
盼中美打仗的难道不是你们这些狼皮赵心的毛毛吗？
别说那些没有用的你陆巴子在美国地位没有台巴子高
印度移民不管印度国内怎么种姓制度，不管国内怎么印度教和穆斯林冲突，在美国都可以互相团聚。
你们这些囼巴子在不停捣乱，亚裔细分是你们，抵制zoom是你们，核弹中国是你们，在华人里面抓间谍也是你们，你们就是一颗老鼠屎，看不得华人在美国发展
陆巴子自己专制思维自己不努力全怪台巴子？活该你这陆巴被美国人歧视
你们一直这种心态下去在美国永远抬不起头永远被歧视，人家表面不歧视你，也会从内心歧视你！
专制？是你们这几个ID在这里喊人家离开吧？你们这几个又任务的才真的是容不得别人，亚裔细分的evil提案才是和纳粹对犹太人的甄别法案一样evil吧
喊你们离开和你们专制有什么联系？美国又不是你们的祖国！你们来用你们专制教育下的思维美国嫌弃这嫌弃那，那为什么不离开呢？回专制祖国去不挺好吗？为什么要赖在这也不好那也不好的异国他乡美国呢？你来美国的目的是什么？如果只为自私自利那你来错地方了！来美国追求的是自由民主宽容和爱！不是你们这些唯利是图的小聪明
不要理它了，它就是想转移话题，人家是廊坊专业人士呢
印度还有洞朗之恨，估计这是个筹码，拿到桌面上讨价还价。但是这种碰瓷太拙劣，搞不好被中共国杀鸡骇猴！
反正我要是包子，肯定扇三哥两巴掌！以儆效尤！否则180国联军都要来要钱！
做狗的难道不是你吗？
中国敢扇印度巴掌？洞朗是印度占上风！你不要搞错了是印度在中国一侧的领土闹了个把月才走的！
中印战争TG虽然前期顺利后期是因为后勤跟不上撤了（因为喜马拉雅山中国一侧是山地印度一侧是平原，印度增援部队一到TG就得被全歼！）
后来收回的藏南地区也放弃重新被印度占领了一直到现在
感觉和1979年的中国一样！
蓝金黄是啥东西?
挂一下吧，这就是标榜 “来美国追求的是自由民主宽容和爱”一 你知道 “民主了，死全家”的典故吗？你们就是有任务，哪里有什么宽容和爱？
语无伦次了？有任务的不就是你们吗？挑拨美华和美国人民以及美国政府的关系！
怎么扇?!这事情本来就是ccp理亏。数据作假是不是事实?开始反对其他国家对中国禁航是不是事实?买通世卫释放虚假信息是不是事实?!
幼稚，明显是老大授意，小弟碰瓷
祝你和你全家世世代代永远都是现中国人啦
印度有思想，有选票，有信仰，有自由，仍然还是个shithole国家。问问这ID，要不要搬到印度去住啊？
谁都别嫌弃谁你也不愿意搬回中国住啊，赖在美国干嘛？
这不是一样的好嘛！ 这次是货正价实的Pandemic， 传染高了不止一个级别，全球大停摆。最主要的是这次是
政府虚假信息造成，故意或者无意？不让人进去看不让人进武汉，官方数据也造假。现在一部分主要媒体都在为世界疫情欢呼觉得中国机会来了。其实也不用怎样，这种没有诚信的政府自己High；会成为一个大号的
北朝鲜。
奇怪，我又没说不待在美国，你来脑补啥？
这是啥诅咒？
啊， 最后不要又变成大饥荒， 把责任推到给别国赔偿上
给清朝赔钱吗？而且八国当中有七个国家都退还赔款了啊，除了日本。要么告日本去？
是啊。。。苦的都是各国韭菜
说来说去，在这么久以前的事自然现在不大可能有定论了，但是华人上的各位学者却说得西班牙流感起源于美国跟板上钉钉的铁的事实似的。
只是五毛通稿而已，和微信上流传美国投毒一个道理，造谣看多了就信了
支持ccp拿着有利证据去联合国告美国。大家为什么要追溯病毒的来源，主要是为了避免将来发生同样的悲剧。
如果是吃动物引来的病毒，那么就立法禁止接触野生动物。
如果是哪个政府故意投毒，那就把决策者送上海牙军事法庭，让世界人民审判，该补偿该赔偿一切按规则办事。参与的主席/总统该下台的就下台。
如果是哪个病毒所不小心泄漏出来的。那就全世界禁止研究病毒，制造生化武器，就跟核协议一样。
最终的目的是制止这样的悲剧重演。
我也很诧异各国这么早就跳出来。ccp手里握着的医疗物资都堵不住他们的嘴巴。只能说明各国已经忍耐到极限了，后面会越来越ugly.
如果中国美国全逃不了干系呢？
没看到隔壁澳大利亚，还有英国?英国首相现在都住院了。全国死的人也不少，你觉得会不会找ccp麻烦。你们五毛现在应该祷告英国首相和女王平安无事，否则。。。等着看吧，后面会越来越多。
把证据和事实摆出来看吧，让全世界人民来审判。如果ccp真的有啥不利于美国的证据的话，几百年前都拿出来了。还会忍着受气?!!
美国议员和川普可是叫嚣着让中国赔偿叫了很久了。川普叫Chinese virus的时候，如果ccp手里有美国投毒的有利证据的话，早就拿出来打脸了。你觉得ccp拿得出来吗？如果继续诬蔑的话会死得更惨。
怎么也比共匪的狗好！
看来川政府恶人先告状就是有理了？川政府有什么证据啊？要有就早甩出来了，现在都是在哼哼些口号而已，屁证据都没有。
自从川大嘴说大号流感开始，他还有什么credit？
这个我支持，恐怕要是禁止研究病毒，生化武器，美国政府第一个不答应
三无口罩？
就看个热闹就好了，能赔就怪了.
说实话，这东西如果真是人造的。谁家的，TOP决策高层，业内专家，大家心里都门清。
你以为ccp当初不让其他国家的人进中国，然后销毁海鲜市场的证据，就高枕无忧了？!搞笑吧？病毒不会骗人就是最大的证据，哪里最早爆发哪里就是起源地。这病毒传染性强致死率高，哪里都兜不住。五毛想说去年美国流感就是这病毒我就呵呵了。美国现在关学校关公司死亡人数都是朝十万奔了。如果完全不预防，那就是死几百万了，还有欧洲也早就爆了。欧美联系那么紧密。五毛的逻辑是，这病毒是最听ccp指挥的。美国去年就有病毒了，然后军运会到武汉投了毒，然后美国的感染者们乖乖地潜伏，也不爆发，直接等到半年后再全体爆发。这逻辑棒棒的吧？
可惜全世界人民不会像你们那么蠢!!!
我为英国百姓成千上万条即将被“全民免疫 ”掉的韭菜的生命郑重PRAY： 首相不要马上就好，最好严重一些，这样才有希望让他跟他的政府放弃狗屁SB的全民免疫，让英国人也重视起来，少死几个人。他是人，是生命，普通英国的韭菜屁民，也是生命，也是人！
只有墙国人还在那里狡辩病毒源于哪里，可惜狡辩也没用，全世界都知道病毒哪来的。
有个假设是，不是故意在武汉投毒，而是那个女军人无症带毒，顺带过去的。这个可能性25%。
照你的说法，艾滋病就是美国起源了？艾滋病就是美国开始爆发的。美国花了两年时间才搞清楚是aids病毒，是不是美国刻意隐瞒啊？
给你上上课：
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS#History
AIDS was first clinically reported on June 5, 1981, with five cases in the United States.[36][227]The initial cases were a cluster of injecting drug users and homosexual men with no known cause of impaired immunity who showed symptoms of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), a rare opportunistic infection that was known to occur in people with very compromised immune systems.[228] Soon thereafter, an unexpected number of homosexual men developed a previously rare skin cancer called Kaposi's sarcoma (KS).[229][230] Many more cases of PCP and KS emerged, alerting U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and a CDC task force was formed to monitor the outbreak.[231] In the early days, the CDC did not have an official name for the disease, often referring to it by way of the diseases that were associated with it, for example, lymphadenopathy, the disease after which the discoverers of HIV originally named the virus.[232][233] They also used Kaposi's sarcoma and opportunistic infections, the name by which a task force had been set up in 1981.[234] At one point the CDC coined the phrase "the 4H disease", for the syndrome seemed to affect heroin users, homosexuals, hemophiliacs, and Haitians.[235][236] In the general press the term GRID, which stood for gay-related immune deficiency, had been coined.[237] However, after determining that AIDS was not isolated to the gay community,[234] it was realized that the term GRID was misleading, and the term AIDS was introduced at a meeting in July 1982.[238]By September 1982 the CDC started referring to the disease as AIDS.[239] In 1983, two separate research groups led by Robert Gallo and Luc Montagnier declared that a novel retrovirus may have been infecting people with AIDS, and published their findings in the same issue of the journal Science.[240][241] Gallo claimed a virus which his group had isolated from a person with AIDS was strikingly similar in shape to other human T-lymphotropic viruses (HTLVs) that his group had been the first to isolate. Gallo's group called their newly isolated virus HTLV-III. At the same time, Montagnier's group isolated a virus from a person presenting with swelling of the lymph nodes of the neck and physical weakness, two characteristic symptoms of AIDS. Contradicting the report from Gallo's group, Montagnier and his colleagues showed that core proteins of this virus were immunologically different from those of HTLV-I. Montagnier's group named their isolated virus lymphadenopathy-associated virus (LAV).[231] As these two viruses turned out to be the same, in 1986, LAV and HTLV-III were renamed HIV.[242]