FDA has not approved the serology test. May I know what laboratory performed the test here for lou zhu? kamchee 发表于 3/30/2020 10:41:57 AM
It was the newly purchased in our hospital last week, I was told, that the tests are used on health workers in hospital to make sure they are safe to return. I expressed my concern about my symptoms to them before, and maybe that's the reason I got tested :)
If he/she already developed the antibody, there is no point to participate in the 疫苗试验. In this case, lou zhu needs to be excluded from the 疫苗试验
If you think hard, this does not make any sense. Lou zhu's antibodies (if really exists) is through natural immunization. Once he/she received the vaccine, the antibodies developed cannot be attributed(to vaccination or natural infection. Therefore, lou zhu cannot participate the 疫苗试验
His words: " it is immunology 101, either by flow or ELISA."
alessa 发表于 3/30/2020 11:03:14 AM
Flow cannot detect antibody directly. Flow can evaluate antigen on a cell or inside of a cell. ELISA could, but the ELISA kit needs to be FDA approved to be tested on human
If he/she already developed the antibody, there is no point to participate in the 疫苗试验. In this case, lou zhu needs to be excluded from the 疫苗试验
If you think hard, this does not make any sense. Lou zhu's antibodies (if really exists) is through natural immunization. Once he/she received the vaccine, the antibodies developed cannot be attributed(to vaccination or natural infection. Therefore, lou zhu cannot participate the 疫苗试验
kamchee 发表于 3/30/2020 10:59:40 AM
对呀，所以试验前做的screen ing 发现她已经有抗体了，所以才能把她exclude.不测怎么知道谁感染过了。现在这也不是常规检查，估计是参加疫苗试验才给测的。楼主一楼说的很清楚啊。
If he/she already developed the antibody, there is no point to participate in the疫苗试验. In this case, lou zhu needs to be excluded from the疫苗试验 kamchee 发表于 3/30/2020 10:59:00 AM
我在医院工作的朋友也可能得过了，他直接接触了患者了，也正在查immunity， 哇哈哈哈 他还说“I'm fine, we'll almost certainly catch it but almost certainly be just fine. Hospital workers have tougher immune system apparently.” （我还好。我们基本肯定要被传染但基本肯定会没啥问题。医院工作的人明显有更好的自身免疫系统）大家别信这个哦，一定要做好防护工作
要打那些流感疫苗乙肝疫苗等
我也怀疑自己得过了，怎么要求查抗体？我们这边不符合检测标准核酸都不给查
哈哈，有点兴奋，毕竟居然亲身体验过这个世纪瘟疫了
现在可能不给查，等这个测试普及一些了才可以吧
谢谢！bless大家都健健康康的！
目测楼主志愿去医院服务并且参加疫苗试验，所以给测了baseline antibody.恭喜楼主。
It was the newly purchased in our hospital last week, I was told, that the tests are used on health workers in hospital to make sure they are safe to return. I expressed my concern about my symptoms to them before, and maybe that's the reason I got tested :)
没看到有详细的说明这个哦，email里也没有特别说只是说我通过了检查，电话里是 the antibody test indicated that I had infected recently
楼主一楼说了啊，准备去做志愿者，要打疫苗前给查的。
If he/she already developed the antibody, there is no point to participate in the 疫苗试验.
In this case, lou zhu needs to be excluded from the 疫苗试验
If you think hard, this does not make any sense. Lou zhu's antibodies (if really exists) is through natural immunization. Once he/she received the vaccine, the antibodies developed cannot be attributed(to vaccination or natural infection.
Therefore, lou zhu cannot participate the 疫苗试验
None of these serology tests is FDA approved yet.
妖精们等着分唐僧肉
His words: " it is immunology 101, either by flow or ELISA."
Flow cannot detect antibody directly. Flow can evaluate antigen on a cell or inside of a cell.
ELISA could, but the ELISA kit needs to be FDA approved to be tested on human
对呀，所以试验前做的screen ing 发现她已经有抗体了，所以才能把她exclude.不测怎么知道谁感染过了。现在这也不是常规检查，估计是参加疫苗试验才给测的。楼主一楼说的很清楚啊。
You should ask 'do you know laboratory medicine 101, which is quite different from immunology 101'
我没有参加疫苗试验呀。只是去医院做义工，我是有过相关的training的
Wu1 Long2 le
什么事疫苗试验？vaccine trail?
那你准备打的什么疫苗？是流感疫苗吗？看到了，原来是流感疫苗。医院很负责啊，还查抗体，估计也查了病毒是阴性才让去做志愿者的，恭喜楼主！
肯定已经给查了。
我也觉得是，反正医院认为我可以去应该就没问题了，否则不会查那么多的。
等我的shift开始，就过来更新
那段时间我每天晚上都用鼻壶洗鼻, 可能真的有点用，把鼻黏膜上的病毒慢慢洗去了。其它没做过什么了
我特意去拍了照片，这是我使用的solution。我不是卖药的，只是给你们看看这个东西的配方，相信amazon上各种牌子都有，分开一小包一小包的
是
我去做义工，就是直接面对covid-19病人的
他还说“I'm fine, we'll almost certainly catch it but almost certainly be just fine. Hospital workers have tougher immune system apparently.” （我还好。我们基本肯定要被传染但基本肯定会没啥问题。医院工作的人明显有更好的自身免疫系统）大家别信这个哦，一定要做好防护工作
对，我也觉得主要区分是传染周围人没有
这个，脆的。百害无一利的零食。偶尔吃一通，吃完罪恶感很重的
但是病毒会变异啊，二次感染可能会更厉害的，楼主还是要小心。
好的，谢谢！
同问 加州可以做吗 在哪
早就出来了没铺开而已，测有没有抵抗力可以，测感染早期的还是核酸灵敏