麻州新增13例,总共108例,82例跟Biogen大会有关,Middlesex49例,感谢麻州COV-19信息群!

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kominu
楼主 (北美华人网)
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COVID-19 cases in Massachusetts as of March 12, 2020*
Confirmed cases of COVID-196
Presumptive positive cases of COVID-19102
Total108



Severe shortage of t
ests blunts coronavirus response, Boston doctors say

ANDREW RYAN, KAY LAZAR, LIZ KOWALCZYK
March 12 at 12:51 PM ET


Despite assurances from Governor Charlie Baker and top state health officials, Massachusetts doctors say a severe shortage of tests for Covid-19 is hindering efforts to control the local coronavirus outbreak.
State health officials have kept strict limits on who can be tested for the coronavirus, forcing physicians to turn patients away who they believe should be tested, according to doctors and patients. And while the testing shortage is a national crisis that originated with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, other states are testing more people than Massachusetts and have been significantly more transparent about the scope of testing, a key component to containing the virus.

Massachusetts officials have not routinely disclosed the total number of people tested and the state has urged hospitals not to provide their own numbers. The most recent figure was released at a news conference Tuesday, when Massachusetts Public Health Commissioner Monica Bharel said they had tested approximately 400 people in total since Feb 28 and that the state lab had “adequate supplies and adequate staffing” and was doing a “superb job.”

But at Massachusetts General Hospital, Dr. Monique Aurora Tello described in a Facebook post Wednesday seeing eight people with probable coronavirus, some of whom had recently been on buses and planes — and being unable to test some of the suspected cases.
“Testing pending for some but the State wouldn’t let us test them all,” Aurora Tello wrote. “Not enough tests!!”
In an interview, Aurora Tello declined to provide a specific number of the people that could not be tested because of the directive from the state Department of Public Health, which she said was performing as well as it could under the circumstances. But Aurora Tello described severe limits on testing that have prevented medical officials containing the virus.

The US Centers for Disease Control says little is known about the virus, but it still has some tentative answers.
“In the early stages of an outbreak, this is how to get it under control. You test, test, test, test,” Aurora Tello said. “Get the contacts of the people who tested positive and get everybody doing their quarantines. That’s how you get it under control. We never did that here and it’s past the point of containment.”

The state has said it follows CDC guidelines for Covid-19 testing, which initially limited the test to those who had traveled to designated international locations and had symptoms, or had known contact with individuals with confirmed cases. Last week, the CDC loosened the guidelines, leaving testing to the discretion of clinicians. But in Massachusetts, all tests are currently performed at the state lab in Jamaica Plain. Doctors can request a test, but the ultimate decision about who is tested is made by the state.
Officials Monday automated a portion of the test which allowed the state lab to increase capacity from 50 a day to 200. But even that increase seemed inadequate in the face of the pandemic. Dr. Micheal Mina, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, estimated that based on the success South Korea has had slowing the virus, Massachusetts needs to be testing roughly 1,000 people a day for the next three months, to achieve what the Koreans did in about three weeks.
Another physician, Dr. David Dildine, wrote on Facebook that he has seen three patients with symptoms and exposure to others who have tested positive for the virus and that, “getting the tests approved is becoming increasingly difficult.”

“Many patients at high risk are not being tested,” wrote Dildine, who declined an interview request and noted in his post he was offering his personal view. “I do not believe we have contained that [Biogen] cluster and expect it to become widespread in MA in the coming weeks. I agree with others who suspect this has been spreading in the community. We don’t know because we aren’t testing.”
There are essentially two different ways of combating the coronavirus — wide-scale quarantining or widespread testing — and the United States and many states, including Massachusetts, have been doing poorly at both, according to Mina.
But Mina said widespread testing is likely to be the far more effective approach, especially in the United States, rather than shutting down large swaths of everyday life. South Korea, with its widespread testing, has demonstrated that it is possible to turn the tide and slow infection rates, he said. Mina said Massachusetts and other states should stop using narrow rules for rationing testing.
“We should be trying to test as much as possible and not just our clinically significant patients,” he said. 
Boston’s two largest academic medical centers are racing to complete steps that will allow them to test patients for Covid-19, doctors said. Brigham and Women’s Hospital is likely within a week of bringing its test online, while Mass. General should know in days when it can start testing people, they said.
“Everyone is working as hard and as fast as they can,’’ said Dr. Eric Rosenberg, director of the clinical microbiology lab at Mass. General. “If this wasn’t a crisis situation this is the sort of test that would take a couple of months to bring on board for clinical use.’’
The Brigham will be able to test a maximum 100 people a day, while Mass. General expects that initially it could run 20 to 40 tests a day but could increase that number eventually. The hospitals will focus on testing patients at their own facilities, particularly those who are sick and need urgent treatment. If they are able to, they would look to relieve the health department of some of the burden of wider testing.
There have been a number of obstacles preventing hospitals from launching their own tests. The federal government initially limited who could run tests until the US Food and Drug Administration relaxed the requirement just over a week ago. That has allowed hospitals to move forward, although they will still need final approval from the FDA.
A chemical needed to extract the genetic material from the virus for testing has been in short supply because of the demand, Mina said. The Brigham has enough of the chemical to get started on testing but it will soon need more, he said.
Then there’s the matter of the test itself. Because the virus is new, companies that would normally manufacture quick tests have not had time to develop the technology and get federal approval. Compared to tests for the flu, the diagnosis of Covid-19 requires more staff and takes longer to produce results.
“We normally use tests for viruses that are akin to microwave dinners. You put it in a microwave and push a button and get a result back,’’ Mina said. With this “it takes hours to run a group of 20 samples.’’ 
Testing people for the virus has two main purposes: To diagnose sick people, direct their treatment, and protect health care workers; and to test those who have been exposed to the virus so they do not infect others and to measure the effectiveness of containment measures.
“The lack of testing in the United States is a debacle,” said Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s Chan School and director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics. “We’re supposed to be the best biomedical powerhouse in the world and we’ve been unable to do something that every other country has been able to do.”
The United States has tested a few thousand people since the beginning of the year, Lipsitch said in a telephone briefing with reporters on Wednesday. In contrast, one province in China tested 320,000 people in two and a half weeks.
“We are nowhere near what we need” in terms of testing capacity, and not moving quickly enough to meet the need, Lipsitch said.
Massachusetts’ 400 tests through Tuesday were significantly fewer than the 3,400 conducted by Washington state, where there have been 29 deaths due to the coronavirus. State officials there post the total number of tests on a regularly updated website, which showed nearly 1,000 additional tests in the most recent day, offering a full picture of authorities’ efforts to track the scope of the virus.
Other states do the same on their websites. New Hampshire reported performing tests on 90 people – with five positive results — through Wednesday morning. Vermont’s disclosed 41 tests – and 1 positive case – through Tuesday afternoon.
On Wednesday, Hillary King went to Mass. General at the direction of her healthinsurance company because she had a cough that kept her up through the night and had trouble breathing.
“The nurses would hear me cough and look at me sideways,” said King, who lives in the North End, where an infected attendee at a Biogen conference last month sparked the state’s largest known outbreak. But King had not had any known contact with someone who had tested positive and based on the criteria outlined by the Department of Health she didn’t qualify for testing. She described her doctors pleading for a test, admitting to her that her symptoms and negative flu and strep tests suggested she might have Covid-19.
“You could tell they really really wanted to test me,” said King over the phone, between coughing fits from her apartment. “But ultimately the doctor got off the phone with DPH and said there were not enough kits for use beyond those that meet the exact criteria.”

 

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mjwxn
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Ohio刚宣布下周一开始关闭所有学校包括k-12,给我们州长点个赞

手动给NY OH 州长点赞
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gnaf00
102 楼
Lz还有newton,brookline学区停课刀下周五,再通知是否继续停课
mrsuperzl 发表于 3/12/2020 11:33:47 PM
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xiaoqiu123
101 楼
biogen越来越像一个投毒事件
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mjwxn
100 楼
回复 33楼kominu的帖子
哈佛和M I T真丢人,一帮废物只能入学上欺负小中男,需要他们出来领导时什么用都没有,比张文宏差了1万8千里
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rabbitmom
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也求再建一个群 谢谢

 

🛋️ 沙发板凳

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Xiaoxiaohai
挺好的,放开了测,能找到的病人都找到。比盖着不给测假装天下太平强。
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kominu
回复 2楼Xiaoxiaohai的帖子 能像韩国一样大量快速的测,还是来得及有救的
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meadowcreek
纽约华州都做得不错。加州麻州不知道在干嘛
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Cherrychocolate
麻州这两天安静的太不寻常了。
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monkey1969
麻州还在等试剂
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kominu
麻州这两天安静的太不寻常了。
Cherrychocolate 发表于 3/12/2020 2:46:40 PM


麻州的试剂盒用完了
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Piggyxzz
麻州太丢人了,试剂都不够,医生明知道疑似却不能测,Boston globe已经报道了
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119ppp
麻州还是不给测。我知道有症状的人昨天试过打过各种电话,还是要求有接触史,要么高危国家要么确诊病人。她说,我们在加州呆了十天还不叫高危?答曰,加州不算高危地区……
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AbeLoveMe
麻州这两天安静的太不寻常了。
Cherrychocolate 发表于 3/12/2020 2:46:40 PM


麻省的州长连马拉松都没cancel。 NJ的州长这两天就消失了。纽约市长连绿帽子节也没cancel。
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kominu
哈哈,我作为一个麻州ID,发了一个纽约的帖子,引来一堆人来讨论麻州,真是一大讽刺啊
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sshdfbgch
麻州还在等试剂
monkey1969 发表于 3/12/2020 2:46:56 PM

这应该写进麻州耻辱史
TM太丢人了
落地无声
测查了多少人?
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kominu
谁有Boston Globe的Subscription,能不能帮忙把头条的那篇新闻转发过来 Severe shortage of tests blunts coronavirus response, Boston doctors say
公用马甲45
大德州还捂着不给测,发抖中
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Cybercat


麻省的州长连马拉松都没cancel。 NJ的州长这两天就消失了。纽约市长连绿帽子节也没cancel。

AbeLoveMe 发表于 3/12/2020 2:51:03 PM

St Patrick’s day parade 取消了。今天Cuomo 刚说500人以上集会禁止,Broadway 今晚就关门了。市长是个滑头,不敢担责任啥都不取消,只好州长出面了。
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fairytale2014

这应该写进麻州耻辱史
TM太丢人了

sshdfbgch 发表于 3/12/2020 2:57:05 PM

是什么试剂 麻州这些顶尖医学院和医院都搞不定。。。
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44ff
德州要三月底才有盒子,之前只能靠自己
大德州还捂着不给测,发抖中 公用马甲45 发表于 3/12/2020 2:59:00 PM
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monkey1969
好像麻州缺rna isolation kit
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vinca


麻省的州长连马拉松都没cancel。 NJ的州长这两天就消失了。纽约市长连绿帽子节也没cancel。

AbeLoveMe 发表于 3/12/2020 2:51:03 PM
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silverblade
德州要三月底才有盒子,之前只能靠自己

44ff 发表于 3/12/2020 3:01:40 PM

要到三月底?这也太慢了
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kominu
好像麻州缺rna isolation kit
monkey1969 发表于 3/12/2020 3:03:18 PM


对,某大医院已经公开求救了
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calliopsis
德州安静如鸡,德州人民瑟瑟发抖,反正不给测就是了,也不报测了多少,反正就是一抹黑
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rime

是什么试剂 麻州这些顶尖医学院和医院都搞不定。。。

fairytale2014 发表于 3/12/2020 3:00:45 PM

隔壁哈佛医学院还在向钟院士学习。joke。
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AbeLoveMe

St Patrick’s day parade 取消了。今天Cuomo 刚说500人以上集会禁止,Broadway 今晚就关门了。市长是个滑头,不敢担责任啥都不取消,只好州长出面了。

Cybercat 发表于 3/12/2020 3:00:26 PM


竟然还需要州长取消,白丝毫这个烂人真是干啥都干不了。 这本来是他的事。纽约州长一般是不管纽约市的。
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monkey1969
Wellesley Public Schools will close for 2 weeks
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last-serenade
不如担心一下麻省自己啊,昨天就增加了三个,这是在哄谁呢,biogen那个大会的查完了没有?
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amyHuang_99
德州要三月底才有盒子,之前只能靠自己

44ff 发表于 3/12/2020 3:01:40 PM

哪里看到的消息?
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monkey1969
不如担心一下麻省自己啊,昨天就增加了三个,这是在哄谁呢,biogen那个大会的查完了没有?
last-serenade 发表于 3/12/2020 3:07:21 PM

biogen那帮人连续开了3个不同的会!!!
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yorkny
这个市长没有机会了,州长果断负责。
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linglituo

隔壁哈佛医学院还在向钟院士学习。joke。

rime 发表于 3/12/2020 3:05:43 PM

哈佛真丢人
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lilacxxt


对,某大医院已经公开求救了

kominu 发表于 3/12/2020 3:04:54 PM

qiagen就有的卖啊,总部德国。
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kominu

哈佛真丢人
linglituo 发表于 3/12/2020 3:11:49 PM


给大家讲讲哈佛这个人是怎么丢的吧,因为哈佛的专家们一直坚称新冠就是个大号流感,不知道是Trump信了这帮人的话,还是这帮人信了Trump的话
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zyskywalker

qiagen就有的卖啊,总部德国。

lilacxxt 发表于 3/12/2020 3:14:50 PM


都backorder了, 上周末UCLA内部就在征寻这个kit,
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linglituo


给大家讲讲哈佛这个人是怎么丢的吧,因为哈佛的专家们一直坚称新冠就是个大号流感,不知道是Trump信了这帮人的话,还是这帮人信了Trump的话

kominu 发表于 3/12/2020 3:16:07 PM

平时大家不是都笑Trump就是一个疯傻子么?特别是这些高大上的名校,他们那么清高还会信他们眼中的一个小丑说的话?甩锅也不是这样子甩的
林猫猫
德州要三月底才有盒子,之前只能靠自己

44ff 发表于 3/12/2020 3:01:40 PM

有source吗
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theblingblings
看新闻说纽约取消500人以上的聚会了,包括百老汇。为啥百老汇的邮件还说麻州的演出都照常进行呢?
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wayne
mass increased to 108 today.
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Cybercat
看新闻说纽约取消500人以上的聚会了,包括百老汇。为啥百老汇的邮件还说麻州的演出都照常进行呢?
theblingblings 发表于 3/12/2020 3:27:48 PM

纽约州长也管不到你们麻州啊
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lilacxxt


都backorder了, 上周末UCLA内部就在征寻这个kit,

zyskywalker 发表于 3/12/2020 3:21:52 PM


有好多reagent可以提的,大家这些年用kit习惯了,把old school
的东西都忘了。先把所有生物lab收刮一下,同时赶快中日韩进口啊。
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last-serenade
mass increased to 108 today.
wayne 发表于 3/12/2020 3:28:56 PM


新增的是哪里来的?还是那个大会还是已经社区传播的?
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justwatching
加州的瑟瑟发抖,反倒纽约华盛顿有增长心还安点
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bakingsoda


麻省的州长连马拉松都没cancel。 NJ的州长这两天就消失了。纽约市长连绿帽子节也没cancel。

AbeLoveMe 发表于 3/12/2020 2:51:03 PM

马拉松延期了:https://www.wcvb.com/article/boston-marathon-organizers-nearing-decision-on-postponing-race-wcvb-has-learned/31403906
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bakingsoda
MA目前关闭的公校:https://www.wcvb.com/weather/closings
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bakingsoda
楼主干脆把帖子的主题改了,这跟帖基本都是MA的
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Narnia
加州也太安静了
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Mintcafe


新增的是哪里来的?还是那个大会还是已经社区传播的?

last-serenade 发表于 3/12/2020 3:33:12 PM

全部的,今天新增13个,大概是昨天没确认的
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kominu
楼主干脆把帖子的主题改了,这跟帖基本都是MA的
bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 3:52:12 PM


改了,怎么会冒出这么多麻州的人来。。。
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krystalhouses
一看到麻州的帖子就忍不住点进来,但是麻州现在被搞成这个样子,实在想不出说什么了
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plainlake
MA目前关闭的公校:https://www.wcvb.com/weather/closings
bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 3:51:27 PM


mark.....
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bakingsoda


改了,怎么会冒出这么多麻州的人来。。。

kominu 发表于 3/12/2020 3:56:16 PM


本来就多,我3月3号发了一个帖子,关于麻州第二例的(https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2513883),那个时候我还只是担心那些去过意大利的师生。结果万万没想到Biogen就象打开了潘多拉的盒子.....
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kominu
一看到麻州的帖子就忍不住点进来,但是麻州现在被搞成这个样子,实在想不出说什么了
krystalhouses 发表于 3/12/2020 3:56:20 PM


没有试剂盒,广大麻州医务人员也很无语
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cissyjuice
一看到麻州的帖子就忍不住点进来,但是麻州现在被搞成这个样子,实在想不出说什么了
krystalhouses 发表于 3/12/2020 3:56:20 PM
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zhimahu


本来就多,我3月3号发了一个帖子,关于麻州第二例的(https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2513883),那个时候我还只是担心那些去过意大利的师生。结果万万没想到Biogen就象打开了潘多拉的盒子.....

bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 4:02:33 PM


要是没有biogen,麻州会不会还岁月静好?
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bakingsoda
回复 48楼kominu的帖子 楼主,可不可以把我44楼关于学校关闭的链接放在你的一楼?谢谢
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qingyi
Ohio刚宣布下周一开始关闭所有学校包括k-12,给我们州长点个赞
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Mintcafe
居然刚刚才反应,之后在这个酒店住宿的客人不知道追没追踪。 Boston Hotel That Hosted Coronavirus-Linked Biogen Meeting to Close The decision to close the Marriott Long Wharf hotel was reportedly made in conjunction with the Boston Public Health Commission https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/boston-hotel-that-hosted-biogen-meeting-to-close/2089801/
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Mintcafe


要是没有biogen,麻州会不会还岁月静好?

zhimahu 发表于 3/12/2020 4:05:37 PM

会,大家只能继续瑟瑟发抖
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bakingsoda
回复 57楼Mintcafe的帖子 我着实佩服这个反应速度,以为前几天这个hotel就闭门谢客进行消毒了呢......还应该问问那些确诊的人都去了哪些地方,那一带那么的热闹,不敢想啊.....
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bakingsoda
这次对待疫情,除了新加坡我觉得给力,再找不出第二个
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Mintcafe
回复 57楼Mintcafe的帖子

我着实佩服这个反应速度,以为前几天这个hotel就闭门谢客进行消毒了呢......还应该问问那些确诊的人都去了哪些地方,那一带那么的热闹,不敢想啊.....
bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 4:13:41 PM

对啊,本地这些还是分散住郊区的,餐馆超市孩子课外。。
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kominu
回复 48楼kominu的帖子

楼主,可不可以把我44楼关于学校关闭的链接放在你的一楼?谢谢
bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 4:07:57 PM


加进去了,谢谢提供信息,那个网站好像还没列出西北郊区这几个城镇的关门信息。
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feo
这次对待疫情,除了新加坡我觉得给力,再找不出第二个
bakingsoda 发表于 3/12/2020 4:16:53 PM

等疫情过去,考虑移民新加坡了
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kominu

等疫情过去,考虑移民新加坡了
feo 发表于 3/12/2020 4:30:39 PM


新西兰咋样,只有5例
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last-serenade
我去,Middlesex难道不应该所有学校都关门???
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krystalhouses
发现Berkshire medical center有8个人,这是说医护人员被传染了吗?
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kominu
Middlesex很大的,495以外的远郊town用不着close吧,当然能都关最好了
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AbeLoveMe
这个Biogen是个医药公司,竟然能掀翻Boston。100多人的会能染上80几个,真是太牛了。
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last-serenade
这个Biogen是个医药公司,竟然能掀翻Boston。100多人的会能染上80几个,真是太牛了。
AbeLoveMe 发表于 3/12/2020 4:51:27 PM


不止,还往外传播,最早就是外州来开会回去发现的,要不然到现在还不给biogen测呢,真的作死
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kominu
发现Berkshire medical center有8个人,这是说医护人员被传染了吗?
krystalhouses 发表于 3/12/2020 4:49:39 PM


大家还记得Albany附近有个死于流感的中国学生吧?麻州跟纽约交接的地方说不定已经社区传播好几周了,今天州长都亲临Pittsfield了,说明那里问题很大了
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AbeLoveMe


不止,还往外传播,最早就是外州来开会回去发现的,要不然到现在还不给biogen测呢,真的作死

last-serenade 发表于 3/12/2020 4:53:00 PM


是宾州的那两个?
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麻州截止周二一共才测了400人,MGH医生各种爆说很多疑似因为没有kit不给测,而且这些疑似有些最近坐了飞机或大巴…
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以下学区关门两周: Arlington, Bedford, Belmont, Burlington, Lexington, and Winchester!
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COVID-19 cases in Massachusetts as of March 12, 2020*
Confirmed cases of COVID-196
Presumptive positive cases of COVID-19102
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kominu 发表于 3/12/2020 2:39:49 PM
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不止,还往外传播,最早就是外州来开会回去发现的,要不然到现在还不给biogen测呢,真的作死 last-serenade 发表于 3/12/2020 4:53:00 PM
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同麻州,求进群
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求进群,谢谢!
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summerline
挺好的,放开了测,能找到的病人都找到。比盖着不给测假装天下太平强。
Xiaoxiaohai 发表于 3/12/2020 2:42:00 PM


麻省没有放开了测, 至今为止还是靠state health department lab测,所以昨天只公布了三个,因为全国的lab一共只测了8个人!
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html

今晚开始麻省不再看travel history,要求必须满足以下两点才测: 1.跟已知确诊有密切接触; 2.咳嗽,发烧或者呼吸困难。
这还能找出来新的无关案例么??
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ilazxfe
我们mit不得不上班的人给的政策就是停车场免费…
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krystalhouses
挺好的,放开了测,能找到的病人都找到。比盖着不给测假装天下太平强。
Xiaoxiaohai 发表于 3/12/2020 2:42:00 PM


麻省没有放开了测, 至今为止还是靠state health department lab测,所以昨天只公布了三个,因为全国的lab一共只测了8个人!
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html

今晚开始麻省不再看travel history,要求必须满足以下两点才测: 1.跟已知确诊有密切接触; 2.咳嗽,发烧或者呼吸困难。
这还能找出来新的无关案例么??


怎么知道自己是不是和已确诊的人接触过呢?信息这么不透明,也没有公布谁确诊了。如果只是和确诊的人曾经坐了同一辆车,又怎么能知道呢?
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谁能拉我进群啊,谢谢!
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麻州截止周二一共才测了400人,MGH医生各种爆说很多疑似因为没有kit不给测,而且这些疑似有些最近坐了飞机或大巴…
hydea 发表于 3/12/2020 4:56:39 PM
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其实covid19真的离我们很近,女儿好朋友的弟弟的同学的妈妈参加了biogen大会而且test 出positive.
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发现Berkshire medical center有8个人,这是说医护人员被传染了吗?
krystalhouses 发表于 3/12/2020 4:49:39 PM


查了一下,昨天的新闻
An undisclosed number of staff at Berkshire Medical Center in Pittsfield have been placed under self-quarantine after coming into contact with an infected patient, hospital spokesman Michael Leary has confirmed. “We do have some employees of BMC who may have been exposed at a greater-than-low risk to patients with COVID-19,” Leary said in a brief Edge interview. https://theberkshireedge.com/bmc-employees-under-self-quarantine-as-local-officials-grapple-with-response-to-coronavirus/
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lz,这是你要的,求入群😭 Severe shortage of tests blunts coronavirus response, Boston doctors say
ANDREW RYAN, KAY LAZAR, LIZ KOWALCZYK
March 12 at 12:51 PM ET
Despite assurances from Governor Charlie Baker and top state health officials, Massachusetts doctors say a severe shortage of tests for Covid-19 is hindering efforts to control the local coronavirus outbreak.
State health officials have kept strict limits on who can be tested for the coronavirus, forcing physicians to turn patients away who they believe should be tested, according to doctors and patients. And while the testing shortage is a national crisis that originated with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, other states are testing more people than Massachusetts and have been significantly more transparent about the scope of testing, a key component to containing the virus.

Massachusetts officials have not routinely disclosed the total number of people tested and the state has urged hospitals not to provide their own numbers. The most recent figure was released at a news conference Tuesday, when Massachusetts Public Health Commissioner Monica Bharel said they had tested approximately 400 people in total since Feb 28 and that the state lab had “adequate supplies and adequate staffing” and was doing a “superb job.”

But at Massachusetts General Hospital, Dr. Monique Aurora Tello described in a Facebook post Wednesday seeing eight people with probable coronavirus, some of whom had recently been on buses and planes — and being unable to test some of the suspected cases.
“Testing pending for some but the State wouldn’t let us test them all,” Aurora Tello wrote. “Not enough tests!!”
In an interview, Aurora Tello declined to provide a specific number of the people that could not be tested because of the directive from the state Department of Public Health, which she said was performing as well as it could under the circumstances. But Aurora Tello described severe limits on testing that have prevented medical officials containing the virus.

The US Centers for Disease Control says little is known about the virus, but it still has some tentative answers.
“In the early stages of an outbreak, this is how to get it under control. You test, test, test, test,” Aurora Tello said. “Get the contacts of the people who tested positive and get everybody doing their quarantines. That’s how you get it under control. We never did that here and it’s past the point of containment.”

The state has said it follows CDC guidelines for Covid-19 testing, which initially limited the test to those who had traveled to designated international locations and had symptoms, or had known contact with individuals with confirmed cases. Last week, the CDC loosened the guidelines, leaving testing to the discretion of clinicians. But in Massachusetts, all tests are currently performed at the state lab in Jamaica Plain. Doctors can request a test, but the ultimate decision about who is tested is made by the state.
Officials Monday automated a portion of the test which allowed the state lab to increase capacity from 50 a day to 200. But even that increase seemed inadequate in the face of the pandemic. Dr. Micheal Mina, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, estimated that based on the success South Korea has had slowing the virus, Massachusetts needs to be testing roughly 1,000 people a day for the next three months, to achieve what the Koreans did in about three weeks.
Another physician, Dr. David Dildine, wrote on Facebook that he has seen three patients with symptoms and exposure to others who have tested positive for the virus and that, “getting the tests approved is becoming increasingly difficult.”

“Many patients at high risk are not being tested,” wrote Dildine, who declined an interview request and noted in his post he was offering his personal view. “I do not believe we have contained that [Biogen] cluster and expect it to become widespread in MA in the coming weeks. I agree with others who suspect this has been spreading in the community. We don’t know because we aren’t testing.”
There are essentially two different ways of combating the coronavirus — wide-scale quarantining or widespread testing — and the United States and many states, including Massachusetts, have been doing poorly at both, according to Mina.
But Mina said widespread testing is likely to be the far more effective approach, especially in the United States, rather than shutting down large swaths of everyday life. South Korea, with its widespread testing, has demonstrated that it is possible to turn the tide and slow infection rates, he said. Mina said Massachusetts and other states should stop using narrow rules for rationing testing.
“We should be trying to test as much as possible and not just our clinically significant patients,” he said. 
Boston’s two largest academic medical centers are racing to complete steps that will allow them to test patients for Covid-19, doctors said. Brigham and Women’s Hospital is likely within a week of bringing its test online, while Mass. General should know in days when it can start testing people, they said.
“Everyone is working as hard and as fast as they can,’’ said Dr. Eric Rosenberg, director of the clinical microbiology lab at Mass. General. “If this wasn’t a crisis situation this is the sort of test that would take a couple of months to bring on board for clinical use.’’
The Brigham will be able to test a maximum 100 people a day, while Mass. General expects that initially it could run 20 to 40 tests a day but could increase that number eventually. The hospitals will focus on testing patients at their own facilities, particularly those who are sick and need urgent treatment. If they are able to, they would look to relieve the health department of some of the burden of wider testing.
There have been a number of obstacles preventing hospitals from launching their own tests. The federal government initially limited who could run tests until the US Food and Drug Administration relaxed the requirement just over a week ago. That has allowed hospitals to move forward, although they will still need final approval from the FDA.
A chemical needed to extract the genetic material from the virus for testing has been in short supply because of the demand, Mina said. The Brigham has enough of the chemical to get started on testing but it will soon need more, he said.
Then there’s the matter of the test itself. Because the virus is new, companies that would normally manufacture quick tests have not had time to develop the technology and get federal approval. Compared to tests for the flu, the diagnosis of Covid-19 requires more staff and takes longer to produce results.
“We normally use tests for viruses that are akin to microwave dinners. You put it in a microwave and push a button and get a result back,’’ Mina said. With this “it takes hours to run a group of 20 samples.’’ 
Testing people for the virus has two main purposes: To diagnose sick people, direct their treatment, and protect health care workers; and to test those who have been exposed to the virus so they do not infect others and to measure the effectiveness of containment measures.
“The lack of testing in the United States is a debacle,” said Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s Chan School and director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics. “We’re supposed to be the best biomedical powerhouse in the world and we’ve been unable to do something that every other country has been able to do.”
The United States has tested a few thousand people since the beginning of the year, Lipsitch said in a telephone briefing with reporters on Wednesday. In contrast, one province in China tested 320,000 people in two and a half weeks.
“We are nowhere near what we need” in terms of testing capacity, and not moving quickly enough to meet the need, Lipsitch said.
Massachusetts’ 400 tests through Tuesday were significantly fewer than the 3,400 conducted by Washington state, where there have been 29 deaths due to the coronavirus. State officials there post the total number of tests on a regularly updated website, which showed nearly 1,000 additional tests in the most recent day, offering a full picture of authorities’ efforts to track the scope of the virus.
Other states do the same on their websites. New Hampshire reported performing tests on 90 people – with five positive results — through Wednesday morning. Vermont’s disclosed 41 tests – and 1 positive case – through Tuesday afternoon.
On Wednesday, Hillary King went to Mass. General at the direction of her health insurance company because she had a cough that kept her up through the night and had trouble breathing.
“The nurses would hear me cough and look at me sideways,” said King, who lives in the North End, where an infected attendee at a Biogen conference last month sparked the state’s largest known outbreak. But King had not had any known contact with someone who had tested positive and based on the criteria outlined by the Department of Health she didn’t qualify for testing. She described her doctors pleading for a test, admitting to her that her symptoms and negative flu and strep tests suggested she might have Covid-19.
“You could tell they really really wanted to test me,” said King over the phone, between coughing fits from her apartment. “But ultimately the doctor got off the phone with DPH and said there were not enough kits for use beyond those that meet the exact criteria.”
谁有Boston Globe的Subscription,能不能帮忙把头条的那篇新闻转发过来 Severe shortage of tests blunts coronavirus response, Boston doctors say kominu 发表于 3/12/2020 2:58:00 PM
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麻州这次简直是太挫了! 这么多知名高校、这么多著名的医院、生物制药公司,竟然受困于没有测试盒子?没法测,任凭病毒肆掠吗? UW怎么做到的?
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lz,这是你要的,求入群😭

Severe shortage of tests blunts coronavirus response, Boston doctors say
ANDREW RYAN, KAY LAZAR, LIZ KOWALCZYK
March 12 at 12:51 PM ET
Despite assurances from Governor Charlie Baker and top state health officials, Massachusetts doctors say a severe shortage of tests for Covid-19 is hindering efforts to control the local coronavirus outbreak.
State health officials have kept strict limits on who can be tested for the coronavirus, forcing physicians to turn patients away who they believe should be tested, according to doctors and patients. And while the testing shortage is a national crisis that originated with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, other states are testing more people than Massachusetts and have been significantly more transparent about the scope of testing, a key component to containing the virus.

Massachusetts officials have not routinely disclosed the total number of people tested and the state has urged hospitals not to provide their own numbers. The most recent figure was released at a news conference Tuesday, when Massachusetts Public Health Commissioner Monica Bharel said they had tested approximately 400 people in total since Feb 28 and that the state lab had “adequate supplies and adequate staffing” and was doing a “superb job.”

But at Massachusetts General Hospital, Dr. Monique Aurora Tello described in a Facebook post Wednesday seeing eight people with probable coronavirus, some of whom had recently been on buses and planes — and being unable to test some of the suspected cases.
“Testing pending for some but the State wouldn’t let us test them all,” Aurora Tello wrote. “Not enough tests!!”
In an interview, Aurora Tello declined to provide a specific number of the people that could not be tested because of the directive from the state Department of Public Health, which she said was performing as well as it could under the circumstances. But Aurora Tello described severe limits on testing that have prevented medical officials containing the virus.

The US Centers for Disease Control says little is known about the virus, but it still has some tentative answers.
“In the early stages of an outbreak, this is how to get it under control. You test, test, test, test,” Aurora Tello said. “Get the contacts of the people who tested positive and get everybody doing their quarantines. That’s how you get it under control. We never did that here and it’s past the point of containment.”

The state has said it follows CDC guidelines for Covid-19 testing, which initially limited the test to those who had traveled to designated international locations and had symptoms, or had known contact with individuals with confirmed cases. Last week, the CDC loosened the guidelines, leaving testing to the discretion of clinicians. But in Massachusetts, all tests are currently performed at the state lab in Jamaica Plain. Doctors can request a test, but the ultimate decision about who is tested is made by the state.
Officials Monday automated a portion of the test which allowed the state lab to increase capacity from 50 a day to 200. But even that increase seemed inadequate in the face of the pandemic. Dr. Micheal Mina, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, estimated that based on the success South Korea has had slowing the virus, Massachusetts needs to be testing roughly 1,000 people a day for the next three months, to achieve what the Koreans did in about three weeks.
Another physician, Dr. David Dildine, wrote on Facebook that he has seen three patients with symptoms and exposure to others who have tested positive for the virus and that, “getting the tests approved is becoming increasingly difficult.”

“Many patients at high risk are not being tested,” wrote Dildine, who declined an interview request and noted in his post he was offering his personal view. “I do not believe we have contained that [Biogen] cluster and expect it to become widespread in MA in the coming weeks. I agree with others who suspect this has been spreading in the community. We don’t know because we aren’t testing.”
There are essentially two different ways of combating the coronavirus — wide-scale quarantining or widespread testing — and the United States and many states, including Massachusetts, have been doing poorly at both, according to Mina.
But Mina said widespread testing is likely to be the far more effective approach, especially in the United States, rather than shutting down large swaths of everyday life. South Korea, with its widespread testing, has demonstrated that it is possible to turn the tide and slow infection rates, he said. Mina said Massachusetts and other states should stop using narrow rules for rationing testing.
“We should be trying to test as much as possible and not just our clinically significant patients,” he said. 
Boston’s two largest academic medical centers are racing to complete steps that will allow them to test patients for Covid-19, doctors said. Brigham and Women’s Hospital is likely within a week of bringing its test online, while Mass. General should know in days when it can start testing people, they said.
“Everyone is working as hard and as fast as they can,’’ said Dr. Eric Rosenberg, director of the clinical microbiology lab at Mass. General. “If this wasn’t a crisis situation this is the sort of test that would take a couple of months to bring on board for clinical use.’’
The Brigham will be able to test a maximum 100 people a day, while Mass. General expects that initially it could run 20 to 40 tests a day but could increase that number eventually. The hospitals will focus on testing patients at their own facilities, particularly those who are sick and need urgent treatment. If they are able to, they would look to relieve the health department of some of the burden of wider testing.
There have been a number of obstacles preventing hospitals from launching their own tests. The federal government initially limited who could run tests until the US Food and Drug Administration relaxed the requirement just over a week ago. That has allowed hospitals to move forward, although they will still need final approval from the FDA.
A chemical needed to extract the genetic material from the virus for testing has been in short supply because of the demand, Mina said. The Brigham has enough of the chemical to get started on testing but it will soon need more, he said.
Then there’s the matter of the test itself. Because the virus is new, companies that would normally manufacture quick tests have not had time to develop the technology and get federal approval. Compared to tests for the flu, the diagnosis of Covid-19 requires more staff and takes longer to produce results.
“We normally use tests for viruses that are akin to microwave dinners. You put it in a microwave and push a button and get a result back,’’ Mina said. With this “it takes hours to run a group of 20 samples.’’ 
Testing people for the virus has two main purposes: To diagnose sick people, direct their treatment, and protect health care workers; and to test those who have been exposed to the virus so they do not infect others and to measure the effectiveness of containment measures.
“The lack of testing in the United States is a debacle,” said Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s Chan School and director of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics. “We’re supposed to be the best biomedical powerhouse in the world and we’ve been unable to do something that every other country has been able to do.”
The United States has tested a few thousand people since the beginning of the year, Lipsitch said in a telephone briefing with reporters on Wednesday. In contrast, one province in China tested 320,000 people in two and a half weeks.
“We are nowhere near what we need” in terms of testing capacity, and not moving quickly enough to meet the need, Lipsitch said.
Massachusetts’ 400 tests through Tuesday were significantly fewer than the 3,400 conducted by Washington state, where there have been 29 deaths due to the coronavirus. State officials there post the total number of tests on a regularly updated website, which showed nearly 1,000 additional tests in the most recent day, offering a full picture of authorities’ efforts to track the scope of the virus.
Other states do the same on their websites. New Hampshire reported performing tests on 90 people – with five positive results — through Wednesday morning. Vermont’s disclosed 41 tests – and 1 positive case – through Tuesday afternoon.
On Wednesday, Hillary King went to Mass. General at the direction of her health insurance company because she had a cough that kept her up through the night and had trouble breathing.
“The nurses would hear me cough and look at me sideways,” said King, who lives in the North End, where an infected attendee at a Biogen conference last month sparked the state’s largest known outbreak. But King had not had any known contact with someone who had tested positive and based on the criteria outlined by the Department of Health she didn’t qualify for testing. She described her doctors pleading for a test, admitting to her that her symptoms and negative flu and strep tests suggested she might have Covid-19.
“You could tell they really really wanted to test me,” said King over the phone, between coughing fits from her apartment. “But ultimately the doctor got off the phone with DPH and said there were not enough kits for use beyond those that meet the exact criteria.”

dapeier 发表于 3/12/2020 7:47:46 PM


群不是我建的,现在二维码已经失效了,请联系华人ID westlake
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Lz还有newton,brookline学区停课刀下周五,再通知是否继续停课
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各位,那个群已经满了500人了,不能再加人了 哪位知道怎么样能够在500人的群里再加人请麻烦告诉我 多谢楼主广告,我说怎么今天人数蹭蹭📈呢!
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各位,那个群已经满了500人了,不能再加人了

哪位知道怎么样能够在500人的群里再加人请麻烦告诉我

多谢楼主广告,我说怎么今天人数蹭蹭📈呢!
westlake 发表于 3/12/2020 11:45:21 PM


再建一个群吧
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我也求再建一个群 谢谢