You are not obligated to persuade others, you just do it by yourself. Remember do what you think is right, don't do what others ask you. sheepo 发表于 3/5/2020 4:48:41 PM
他们带不带真跟我没关系我也从来没有feel the obligation. 别把我想成圣母。不是。但是既然他们主动聊起来这个话题了，我也有表发我的观点的自由。我跟他们观点不同，说出来不是想劝说什么，只是不想什么都不表达而已
话说到这儿，简直可以肯定你是别有用心无疑了。先是渲染不戴口罩多么不好，然后开始扯cdc不鼓励戴口罩是不是英雄，然后推广到别的cdc的做法，跟版上那些外宣wm套路一样一样的。不断的给你偷换概念。事实清清楚楚cdc不鼓励大家抢购口罩，并且告诉你口罩不能起那么大的防疫作用这些绝对是没错的，并且对疫情防控不会起任何负面作用，相反的，拼命夸张口罩作用并且鼓励大家疯抢是对大众的不负责。我俩今天的论题就是cdc不鼓励大家买口罩，大众不去抢购口罩是好事还是坏事。cdc任何其他行为跟这个论题无关。并且说到这里已经很清楚了，lz你不过是借这个口罩说事想推波助澜引起大家恐慌抢购口罩引起或者是社会秩序混乱或者民众不满或者导致医护人员无防护罢了。其心可诛。shame on you!
Mar 5 · 7 min read Countries have a choice of two responses when it comes to the new Coronavirus:[list=1] To refuse to accept the spread of the virus in the hope they can hold out the 9 months or more needed to develop a vaccine. Let the virus spread through the country, only slowing the virus enough to prevent collapse of the medical system and society. China, South Korea and Singapore have chosen option one. This week the UK has chosen option two, directly against the advice of the World Health Organisation. “COVID-19 spreads less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who aren’t sick, it causes more severe illness than flu, and it can be contained — which is why we must do everything we can to contain it” said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Director General of the World Health Organisation on Tuesday. But can it be contained forever? China can’t keep up its quarantines and lockdowns indefinitely, indeed it is already slowly getting its economy back on its feet. Foxconn, the manufacturer of iPhones, expects to be back to 100% capacity by the end of March. But with the country going back to work, China is expecting cases to start rising again. “They are getting those things working again, but they have their system primed for rapid detection and rapid response” says Bruce Aylward, the leader of the World Health Organisation’s mission to China last month. “They never want to be in another situation like Wuhan” China believes that with rapid detection and isolation of cases, it can keep the virus at bay even with the country back at work. “The faster you can find the cases, isolate the cases, and track their close contacts, the more successful you’re going to be” says Bruce Aylward. The UK on the other hand is on the verge of giving up on contact tracing and isolating cases altogether. Chris Witty, the UK’s Chief Medical Officer announced today that the UK has moved from the contain stage to the delay stage. Moving to the delay stage will ultimately involve giving up on trying to stop any outbreaks, and instead just trying to delay the peak of any epidemic until summer when the hospitals are out of flu season. The government’s plan released this week paints a hellish picture of what that might look like. Their “reasonable worst case scenario” involves 80% of the UK population being infected, with half a million dead. The army will be called in to prevent food riots. Police will only be able to respond to the most major of crimes. Retired doctors and nurses will be called up to prop up the NHS. Local authorities will have to cope with the disposal of hundred’s of thousands of dead bodies. In the press conference after the release of the government’s plan, the Prime Minister and the Chief Medical Officer made no attempt to outline the steps they are taking to make sure it doesn’t get to that worse case scenario. The message seemed to be; this is the worst case scenario, we foresee no other scenarios. Maybe it won’t be that bad. Maybe only 40% of the population will be infected. What would 40% of the UK population becoming infected look like? Would it look as bad as Wuhan did at the height of its epidemic a few weeks ago? Sadly it would look a lot, lot worse. Hubei, the province in China where Wuhan is located has reported to date over 67,000 cases, with a population of around 60 million. This amounts to only 0.1% of the population infected yet hospitals were completely overwhelmed. China sent 42,000 health workers from elsewhere in the country to Hubei to deal with the crisis. Experts think that the number of cases in Hubei was much higher than 67,000 as most mild cases were not detected. Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London estimated that 95% of cases were being missed. This would still only mean that 2% of Hubei’s population were infected. Comparing this to the UK government’s worse case scenario of 80% of the UK being infected is very sobering. Why would the UK government choose this option instead of stopping the virus? One benefit is that this whole thing would be over within six months instead of dragging it out until a vaccine is available. It may also be better for the economy. “People die anyway, and at the rate of around 850,000 a year [in Germany]” said Christian Drosten, head of the virology department at Berlin’s Charité hospital. “Any contingency measure has a negative effect on businesses and the real economy” said a senior German government official. The calculation is a cold one, but their position is clear: the economy is more important than human life, and the people who die are going to be mainly people who don’t contribute to society anyway. The UK government seems to have come to the same conclusion. Germany thinks it’s not up to the task of stopping the virus as China has done. “We cannot do what China has done here, as that would start a panic, runs on supermarkets and banks” said a senior German government official. Bruce Aylward thinks that is wrong: “I think people aren’t paying close enough attention. The majority of the response in China, in 30 provinces, was about case finding, contact tracing, and suspension of public gatherings — all common measures used anywhere in the world to manage [the spread of] diseases.” Gabriel Leung, Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Hong Kong also disagrees that other countries cannot do what China has done. “Not true.” He says. He points to the fact that Hong Kong has managed to control the outbreak despite sharing a border with mainland China and with this outbreak coming after months of violent protests. “It couldn’t have come at a worse time because of the distrust of the authorities. If Hong Kong can do this then anybody else can.” Hong Kong’s main response is a combination of social distancing and aggressively tracking down suspected cases and isolating any contacts. At one point in February they had 12,000 people isolated. “I think Hong Kong is an excellent example of why we can think that these methods work” says Keiji Fukuda who helped lead the WHO’s response to the Ebola outbreak. “I think [Hong Kong] is a really good example where I believe that we’re seeing [that] social distancing measures, personal hygiene measures really, really work.” Another important aspect of Hong Kong’s response is that everyone in public wears a mask. The Hong Kong Urological Association, the Hong Kong Society for Infectious Diseases, and the Hong Kong Public Doctors’ Association all urged citizens to wear a mask at all times whether or not they showed respiratory infection symptoms.Dr. Pak-Leung Ho, head of Centre for infection at Hong Kong University Medicine highlights universal mask wearing as one of the main reasons that the coronavirus hasn’t taken off there. So why then are western governments telling their citizens not to wear masks? The reason is supply; if citizens buy masks then there won’t be enough for the hospitals that need them. Countries across Asia are stepping up the supply of masks to counter this issue. TV manufacturer Sharp is using one of its factories to produce masks, and another Japanese supplier is stepping up to produce 50 million masks per month. The UK government is making no attempt to provide masks for its citizens. Experts think that asking everyone who goes outside to cover their mouth and nose with a scarf would provide a similar effect, for the same reason that they ask us to cover our mouths when coughing and sneezing; it reduces the range of the large droplets that spread the virus to people and surfaces around. Multiple experts have said that you cannot stop this virus in the same way that you cannot stop the flu. But stopping the flu is exactly what has happened in Hong Kong as a side effect of stopping the Coronavirus. Hong Kong’s Centre for Health Protection shared data that showed that the flu season ended in February when it usually extends to the end of March or April. Dr Ho Pak-leung of Hong Kong University said that the flu season has shortened from an average of 98.7 days down to just 34 days due to the measures to stop the coronavirus.The UK is probably looking at the rising numbers of infected people as confirmation that contact tracing and isolating contacts doesn’t work. But are they really trying? In Wuhan alone they had 1800 teams of five or more people performing contact tracing. The UK government could be hiring members of the public to perform this task. It may seem like a huge effort, but it’s nothing compared with the task of providing medical care to the millions of people that will be suffering from severe pneumonia if the government lets this virus sweep through the population as it is planning to do. Maybe Hong Kong and Singapore will only be able to keep the Coronavirus at bay for a few months, we don’t yet know. But even if that were the case this delay will give time to find an effective treatment. China has been conducting a clinical study to assess the effectiveness of Remdesivir, an anti-viral drug made by US based Gilead Sciences. The WHO says it looks promising and stated on the 20th of February that we should have results “within 3 weeks”. Gilead has stated they have “accelerated manufacturing timelines to increase available supply as rapidly as possible.” Countries that delay their epidemics will likely have access to this drug whereas the UK will likely not if it goes ahead with its plan to have the epidemic peak in Summer. History will judge which option was the wisest choice in the long run. When this is all over, it’s probable that Western countries will be counting the number of dead by the millions, but China, Hong Kong and Singapore will be counting only by the thousands.
话说到这儿，简直可以肯定你是别有用心无疑了。先是渲染不戴口罩多么不好，然后开始扯cdc不鼓励戴口罩是不是英雄，然后推广到别的cdc的做法，跟版上那些外宣wm套路一样一样的。不断的给你偷换概念。事实清清楚楚cdc不鼓励大家抢购口罩，并且告诉你口罩不能起那么大的防疫作用这些绝对是没错的，并且对疫情防控不会起任何负面作用，相反的，拼命夸张口罩作用并且鼓励大家疯抢是对大众的不负责。我俩今天的论题就是cdc不鼓励大家买口罩，大众不去抢购口罩是好事还是坏事。cdc任何其他行为跟这个论题无关。并且说到这里已经很清楚了，lz你不过是借这个口罩说事想推波助澜引起大家恐慌抢购口罩引起或者是社会秩序混乱或者民众不满或者导致医护人员无防护罢了。其心可诛。shame on you!
——————说这个小事儿的目的，不是说劝大家都劝身边人买口罩啊，千万别会错意思，因为我觉得咱们年轻的一代亚裔不要再继续当哑族，有什么观点就要表发出来，没什么不对的；不接受我的观点的人，我尊重你们觉得口罩没用的观点，你们买不买我真不care；那些说话阴阳怪气的，不知你们身边同事侃侃而谈发表观点的时候，你们是不是除了agree不会也从来不敢说出自己的想法？ __________某些一直持续人身攻击，追着我口吐脏字骂我的，就因为我白男同事找我聊个天，我表达个不同的观点，这么戳到你痛处了么？可以跟我观点不同，你有理有据说出你的观点我完全欢迎，这才是正常的有素质的人会做的。
__________给想要链接和source的人：
Mask do work and any type of mask is better than nothing: (Reddit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fe4cqw/masks_do_work_and_any_type_of_mask_is_better_than/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fc4zsq/since_the_main_reason_the_cdc_tell_us_we_shouldnt/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
美国人抱怨CDC 拦截额他私人买的N95 mask: (reddit 原帖找不到了，但原po的twitter还在，直接搜keyword这个人就在第一个）
邮件里写的很清楚，不会给这个人发货，已经下了单但被CDC “征用”了
拿医护说事儿没有说服力啊，你很低很低概率跟病人凑那么近。
羡慕你身边同事都有觉悟
口罩如果没用，医护为什么要用N95， 我老公就在医院工作，他们医院的n95都被锁起来了留给医生护士用。难道医院的人都多此一举么？
还是有说服力的。戴口罩的人，自然就是认为在生活中和病人凑那么近的几率明显比以前大的多了。不戴的，实际上就是认为这个几率还是低到可以忽略的程度。
你同事argument不行，换我我就说口罩外面会积累病毒，摸口罩和摸脸一个效果。
确实是，普通能够呼吸顺畅的口罩，基本就是这个作用了。。但是真的比没有强
我没说口罩没用，我是说，普通人一般没必要，因为你很少会跟病人，别说病人了，在美国，跟任何外人，都很难凑那么近。我一直支持搭公交戴口罩，因为密闭环境又拥挤。
我自己从国内飞回来一路上就都戴着工程n95，6小时一换，因为我不能肯定在机场和飞机上那么近距离挨着的人有没有问题。
有口罩摸不到脸就会意识到不该上手，这就是口罩存在的一个作用。口罩最主要挡大颗粒的飞沫，指望所有人都能自觉注意cover cough/sneeze是不现实的。
那我就继续这么回你，你在外面可以经常洗手，随时hand sanitizer可以消毒，口罩上有病毒但是依旧不会到你的呼吸道和嘴里，你难道可以随时用酒精消毒脸消毒嘴消毒鼻子么？手上有病毒了无意识碰到嘴了怎么办，一个效果么？？？
如果你看全了贴，我从来没有主动聊过，被动的被同事说起带不带mask的事，全世界的人都知道中日韩都全民戴口罩，我觉得最为组里唯一的亚裔女生有必要表明自己的观点，而不是吃瘪让老美觉得亚裔都多此一举
因为医护人员跟病人直接接触，还要处理秽物，体液，当然需要保护啦。普通人哪里会和病人那么近距离接触。所以家庭传播多，公共交通工具传播少啊。
她同事明显就是顺着她的话说，并不是真的要跟她好好argue。这都看不出？我一般不想argue了就会说，你说的也对，巴拉巴拉终结话题。
没必要，我们公司高层早就开会商量全公司WFH的事，没有足够capacity现在也在努力让公司网可以容纳所有人都在家工作。没戴口罩
如果这样，用围巾包裹成中东女不就可以了？
口罩用过了就扔了，一天扔几个。围巾你也一天扔几条？
真不觉得楼主一女的，被人跪下叫爸爸有啥好期待的。。。
其实他们带不带我真的也不care，我们州一旦多起来了，公司自然会WFH，我也买不到n95
我完全同意你的观点，密闭空间，会议室，有一个中全中，从这周开始全公司取消外州出差，所有会都改成网络了。但是要是出门去人口密集的场所，还是带了比不带好
还有这样抬杠的？别歧视中东女人，她们围巾要是天天洗可以，不天天洗也不可以
你不赞同，还依旧会表示赞同？那只能说你真的只能代表你自己，我同事都不虚伪。不同意会就会提出不同观点。
这个留言的这个，这么期待身边同事跪下来叫爸爸，不知是什么个奇妙的心理？
我为什么要发他们口罩，我自己都没有，而且你这是说的什么话，喜欢别人跪下来叫你爸爸？？我不需要，您自己留好
其实我特别服为什么要跟我聊这个事，我个人不喜欢在工作场所聊工作外的事情，但是找上我了我也不能不发声
你不知道“甲方爸爸”的梗吗？好无趣。难怪吃憋。
呵呵，你最有趣，你最厉害，祝您天天开心，同事都跪下来叫你爸爸。我不关注中国的什么梗，不知道你哪里看出来我吃瘪了
如果真是像前面那ID说的，一个口罩40刀，还还真不如扔围巾便宜呢。
他们带不带真跟我没关系我也从来没有feel the obligation. 别把我想成圣母。不是。但是既然他们主动聊起来这个话题了，我也有表发我的观点的自由。我跟他们观点不同，说出来不是想劝说什么，只是不想什么都不表达而已
主要是我州刚有，所以忽然大家开始聊了。之前没有没人聊
确定你不是口罩代购？鼓励别人买$40一个的口罩？你去跟那些有觉悟的一起工作好了。别让我们这些没有口罩的看着心烦。我看这里不鼓励戴口罩非常好，那些把口罩买光的人就会终于会意识到，这个世界不存在你把别人资源占光你也能独活。
所以你的逻辑是，因为中国1，2个月前就爆发了，美国依旧毫无准备，现在火烧到自己身上了，口罩短缺，Test kit短缺，然后CDC告诉大众口罩没用，是英雄之举喽？
我只买到surgical mask，N95供货商都缺货，我也不是代购，你用这个羞辱人，不知是生活中有什么不顺心的事？
口罩上会落有带病菌的颗粒，如果手碰了口罩一样危险。
是的。没有足够supply的情况下，在没有切实确凿统计数据支持的情况下大举鼓励全民戴口罩是不明智的。如果确定不戴口罩大幅提高传染和死亡几率并且在没有口罩supply的情况下应该鼓励大家都在家工作。所以现在CDC背这个锅，告诉你一件反正你（哦，不是你，是美国的大部分民众）也做不到的事情并不能帮助你那么多，使民众不至于成为为了弄到口罩把自己折腾死，没错我认为这是英雄之举。比某党拍脑袋规定全民戴口罩，拍脑袋规定武汉封城，至于你做到做不到，让你这么做你会不会更惨完全不顾，要强多了。
眼前不顺心的事就是买不到口罩啊。这不明摆着呢吗？现在在这里不停兴风作浪不断要劝说全民拼命弄口罩，不知道是什么心态？是不是最近钱赚的太顺了。
戴胸罩吧。。。
反正就是防 droplets 嘛，普通人也用不到那种直接接触病人的等级
lol，我都屯上卫生巾了。谁能告诉我是不是真的能用。但是我现在还是没有勇气戴啦，还在裸奔。
这话说的，你不戴口罩，那些病菌颗粒就落在你的脸上或者吸进鼻子口腔了，那样更安全？
好的，那么你心中的英雄CDC，已经拒绝公开感染数据， 并且还被美国民众实锤CDC截获自己买的N95口罩，你原来想要的一直都是CCP的不透明和专政啊，回中国吧，中国更适合你，如果你眼里美国大部分民众都是看fox news的那种，我只能呵呵，我猜你也不会用reddit forum看真正的美国年轻人的想法
话说到这儿，简直可以肯定你是别有用心无疑了。先是渲染不戴口罩多么不好，然后开始扯cdc不鼓励戴口罩是不是英雄，然后推广到别的cdc的做法，跟版上那些外宣wm套路一样一样的。不断的给你偷换概念。事实清清楚楚cdc不鼓励大家抢购口罩，并且告诉你口罩不能起那么大的防疫作用这些绝对是没错的，并且对疫情防控不会起任何负面作用，相反的，拼命夸张口罩作用并且鼓励大家疯抢是对大众的不负责。我俩今天的论题就是cdc不鼓励大家买口罩，大众不去抢购口罩是好事还是坏事。cdc任何其他行为跟这个论题无关。并且说到这里已经很清楚了，lz你不过是借这个口罩说事想推波助澜引起大家恐慌抢购口罩引起或者是社会秩序混乱或者民众不满或者导致医护人员无防护罢了。其心可诛。shame on you!
哈哈哈，说不过急了急了，我发现你除了逻辑不清，说话不讲求事实，拒绝看到事实，还喜欢扣帽子，外加骂人，人身攻击啊🤣🤣🤣我跟你不一样，你都把我逗乐了,祝今天开心哦
让你开心我很开心。没错是急了急了。看到你这样的人使坏带节奏能不急吗？看到你这样的黑心人能不人身攻击吗？即使这样看到把你逗乐了我还是很高兴，因为我跟你不同，我起码是个人，不是收人五毛钱就不惜害死多少人的走狗。你不是问怎样不吃瘪吗？人不存害人之欲就不会吃瘪。同样的，告诉你这个只是为了帮你，因为我是个人，希望别人好是我的本能，不似某些走狗。
https://tomeraltman.net/2020/03/03/technical-problems-COVID-primers.html
UK Government is Choosing to Sacrifice its Elderly Population to the Coronavirus
EH Porteus
Mar 5 · 7 min read
Countries have a choice of two responses when it comes to the new Coronavirus:[list=1]
To refuse to accept the spread of the virus in the hope they can hold out the 9 months or more needed to develop a vaccine.
Let the virus spread through the country, only slowing the virus enough to prevent collapse of the medical system and society.
China, South Korea and Singapore have chosen option one. This week the UK has chosen option two, directly against the advice of the World Health Organisation. “COVID-19 spreads less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who aren’t sick, it causes more severe illness than flu, and it can be contained — which is why we must do everything we can to contain it” said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Director General of the World Health Organisation on Tuesday. But can it be contained forever? China can’t keep up its quarantines and lockdowns indefinitely, indeed it is already slowly getting its economy back on its feet. Foxconn, the manufacturer of iPhones, expects to be back to 100% capacity by the end of March. But with the country going back to work, China is expecting cases to start rising again. “They are getting those things working again, but they have their system primed for rapid detection and rapid response” says Bruce Aylward, the leader of the World Health Organisation’s mission to China last month. “They never want to be in another situation like Wuhan” China believes that with rapid detection and isolation of cases, it can keep the virus at bay even with the country back at work. “The faster you can find the cases, isolate the cases, and track their close contacts, the more successful you’re going to be” says Bruce Aylward. The UK on the other hand is on the verge of giving up on contact tracing and isolating cases altogether. Chris Witty, the UK’s Chief Medical Officer announced today that the UK has moved from the contain stage to the delay stage. Moving to the delay stage will ultimately involve giving up on trying to stop any outbreaks, and instead just trying to delay the peak of any epidemic until summer when the hospitals are out of flu season. The government’s plan released this week paints a hellish picture of what that might look like. Their “reasonable worst case scenario” involves 80% of the UK population being infected, with half a million dead. The army will be called in to prevent food riots. Police will only be able to respond to the most major of crimes. Retired doctors and nurses will be called up to prop up the NHS. Local authorities will have to cope with the disposal of hundred’s of thousands of dead bodies. In the press conference after the release of the government’s plan, the Prime Minister and the Chief Medical Officer made no attempt to outline the steps they are taking to make sure it doesn’t get to that worse case scenario. The message seemed to be; this is the worst case scenario, we foresee no other scenarios. Maybe it won’t be that bad. Maybe only 40% of the population will be infected. What would 40% of the UK population becoming infected look like? Would it look as bad as Wuhan did at the height of its epidemic a few weeks ago? Sadly it would look a lot, lot worse. Hubei, the province in China where Wuhan is located has reported to date over 67,000 cases, with a population of around 60 million. This amounts to only 0.1% of the population infected yet hospitals were completely overwhelmed. China sent 42,000 health workers from elsewhere in the country to Hubei to deal with the crisis. Experts think that the number of cases in Hubei was much higher than 67,000 as most mild cases were not detected. Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London estimated that 95% of cases were being missed. This would still only mean that 2% of Hubei’s population were infected. Comparing this to the UK government’s worse case scenario of 80% of the UK being infected is very sobering. Why would the UK government choose this option instead of stopping the virus? One benefit is that this whole thing would be over within six months instead of dragging it out until a vaccine is available. It may also be better for the economy. “People die anyway, and at the rate of around 850,000 a year [in Germany]” said Christian Drosten, head of the virology department at Berlin’s Charité hospital. “Any contingency measure has a negative effect on businesses and the real economy” said a senior German government official. The calculation is a cold one, but their position is clear: the economy is more important than human life, and the people who die are going to be mainly people who don’t contribute to society anyway. The UK government seems to have come to the same conclusion. Germany thinks it’s not up to the task of stopping the virus as China has done. “We cannot do what China has done here, as that would start a panic, runs on supermarkets and banks” said a senior German government official. Bruce Aylward thinks that is wrong: “I think people aren’t paying close enough attention. The majority of the response in China, in 30 provinces, was about case finding, contact tracing, and suspension of public gatherings — all common measures used anywhere in the world to manage [the spread of] diseases.” Gabriel Leung, Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Hong Kong also disagrees that other countries cannot do what China has done. “Not true.” He says. He points to the fact that Hong Kong has managed to control the outbreak despite sharing a border with mainland China and with this outbreak coming after months of violent protests. “It couldn’t have come at a worse time because of the distrust of the authorities. If Hong Kong can do this then anybody else can.” Hong Kong’s main response is a combination of social distancing and aggressively tracking down suspected cases and isolating any contacts. At one point in February they had 12,000 people isolated. “I think Hong Kong is an excellent example of why we can think that these methods work” says Keiji Fukuda who helped lead the WHO’s response to the Ebola outbreak. “I think [Hong Kong] is a really good example where I believe that we’re seeing [that] social distancing measures, personal hygiene measures really, really work.” Another important aspect of Hong Kong’s response is that everyone in public wears a mask. The Hong Kong Urological Association, the Hong Kong Society for Infectious Diseases, and the Hong Kong Public Doctors’ Association all urged citizens to wear a mask at all times whether or not they showed respiratory infection symptoms. Dr. Pak-Leung Ho, head of Centre for infection at Hong Kong University Medicine highlights universal mask wearing as one of the main reasons that the coronavirus hasn’t taken off there. So why then are western governments telling their citizens not to wear masks? The reason is supply; if citizens buy masks then there won’t be enough for the hospitals that need them. Countries across Asia are stepping up the supply of masks to counter this issue. TV manufacturer Sharp is using one of its factories to produce masks, and another Japanese supplier is stepping up to produce 50 million masks per month. The UK government is making no attempt to provide masks for its citizens. Experts think that asking everyone who goes outside to cover their mouth and nose with a scarf would provide a similar effect, for the same reason that they ask us to cover our mouths when coughing and sneezing; it reduces the range of the large droplets that spread the virus to people and surfaces around. Multiple experts have said that you cannot stop this virus in the same way that you cannot stop the flu. But stopping the flu is exactly what has happened in Hong Kong as a side effect of stopping the Coronavirus. Hong Kong’s Centre for Health Protection shared data that showed that the flu season ended in February when it usually extends to the end of March or April. Dr Ho Pak-leung of Hong Kong University said that the flu season has shortened from an average of 98.7 days down to just 34 days due to the measures to stop the coronavirus. The UK is probably looking at the rising numbers of infected people as confirmation that contact tracing and isolating contacts doesn’t work. But are they really trying? In Wuhan alone they had 1800 teams of five or more people performing contact tracing. The UK government could be hiring members of the public to perform this task. It may seem like a huge effort, but it’s nothing compared with the task of providing medical care to the millions of people that will be suffering from severe pneumonia if the government lets this virus sweep through the population as it is planning to do. Maybe Hong Kong and Singapore will only be able to keep the Coronavirus at bay for a few months, we don’t yet know. But even if that were the case this delay will give time to find an effective treatment. China has been conducting a clinical study to assess the effectiveness of Remdesivir, an anti-viral drug made by US based Gilead Sciences. The WHO says it looks promising and stated on the 20th of February that we should have results “within 3 weeks”. Gilead has stated they have “accelerated manufacturing timelines to increase available supply as rapidly as possible.” Countries that delay their epidemics will likely have access to this drug whereas the UK will likely not if it goes ahead with its plan to have the epidemic peak in Summer. History will judge which option was the wisest choice in the long run. When this is all over, it’s probable that Western countries will be counting the number of dead by the millions, but China, Hong Kong and Singapore will be counting only by the thousands.
最大用处是挡住感染者的飞沫。等有症状了，早不知道喷了多少飞沫到环境里。所以东亚各国都在强力要求，全民口罩。事实也证明非常成功。连流感都阻断了，流感季都提前结束了。
我被一个把白人说得话全当真理的，喷非说我是口罩代购，追着我骂，带脏字，都给我逗乐了🤣她还说CDC告诉大众口罩没用是英雄之举。哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
我为什么要负责提供？我只是表达我不同的观点。口罩价格高对任何人都高，价格飙升完全是供需关系决定的，也不是我能决定的，日本不都教大众怎么用厨房纸做口罩了？日本这样才是正确帮助大众度过难关的做法，而不是一味欺骗大众说口罩没用没必要
https://hk.news.yahoo.com/%E4%BD%95%E6%A0%A2%E8%89%AF%E8%AE%9A%E6%B8%AF%E4%BA%BA%E5%A0%85%E6%8C%814%E5%A4%A7%E9%98%B2%E7%96%AB%E6%8E%AA%E6%96%BD-%E8%87%B4%E5%86%AC%E5%AD%A3%E6%B5%81%E6%84%9F%E9%AB%98%E5%B3%B0%E6%9C%9F%E6%8F%90%E6%97%A9%E7%B5%90%E6%9D%9F-100900467.html
其实你的思维方式还是非常非常的中国，我平和的有理有据的表达自己不同的观点就是不尊重人？你如果在美国念过书，你一定知道美国最鼓励的就是critical thinking, dare to challenge authority.你用中国顺民那套思想在美国生活？？那你生活中一定是白人说什么你都觉得是对的。呵呵，美国之所以对亚裔刻板印象就是因为你这样的人太多，从来没有自己观点，有也不敢表达不敢反驳，白人无论说什么满面笑容，然后最后用精神胜利法安慰自己，我这是尊重别人。
外宣嘛，拼命挑拨海外华人跟当地人矛盾也是他们的任务之一
我在原帖里补充了链接和twitter截图。
链接和twitter截图已经补充到原帖了，需要就拿走。