CDC曾经说过不要去医生诊所如果你怀疑新冠的话，因为不知道怎么处理。要打911或者提前给医院打电话确定医院可以处理。不是所有的医院都可以处理的。所以我的建议一直都是打911，给湾区大医院打电话 careersearch 发表于 2/20/2020 11:00:05 AM
不是给911打电话，如果呼吸困难难以出行给911。lz的情况给当地的local health depaetment打电话。我月初怀疑自己，因为低烧，就打了。先打的医院，医院给了local health depaetment的号码。lz如果去ER，建议先搜你附近符合条件的医院。我自己所在州有说那些医院是满足条件。不是每个ER有条件处理的。但很有可能还是不给测。他们就不给我测，说我不符合条件。
不是给911打电话，如果呼吸困难难以出行给911。lz的情况给当地的local health depaetment打电话。我月初怀疑自己，因为低烧，就打了。先打的医院，医院给了local health depaetment的号码。lz如果去ER，建议先搜你附近符合条件的医院。我自己所在州有说那些医院是满足条件。不是每个ER有条件处理的。但很有可能还是不给测。他们就不给我测，说我不符合条件。 oceanmist 发表于 2/20/2020 11:30:00 AM
Just saw update from LZ. Local health department is ridiculous Here is from CDC Feb 14 update. If they follow guideline, they should test. I will keep calling them and SF big hospital Five public health labs already conducting influenza surveillance in the U.S. will test specimens for novel coronavirus (COVID-19) if they test negative for influenza, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said today. In addition to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago and New York City, CDC will add more cities in the coming weeks to better detect if the virus is spreading in communities.
Just saw update from LZ. Local health department is ridiculous
Here is from CDC Feb 14 update. If they follow guideline, they should test. I will keep calling them and SF big hospital
Five public health labs already conducting influenza surveillance in the U.S. will test specimens for novel coronavirus (COVID-19) if they test negative for influenza, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said today. In addition to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago and New York City, CDC will add more cities in the coming weeks to better detect if the virus is spreading in communities. careersearch 发表于 2/20/2020 8:41:36 PM
US changes the way it counts coronavirus cases The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will now track confirmed cases of novel coronavirus in the United States in two separate and distinct groups: those repatriated by the US Department of State and those identified by the US public health network. What this means: By these new metrics, there are now 21 confirmed cases among repatriated Americans and 13 confirmed cases among Americans first identified on US soil, said Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease. Eighteen cases have been confirmed among passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship now back in the United States. Three cases have been confirmed among passengers from the Wuhan repatriation flights now back in the United States. Up until yesterday, the CDC was reporting 15 confirmed cases in the United States. The reason that number has dropped to 13 is because two cases have moved into the case count of repatriated individuals. The change in the counting system starts today.
WSJ已经发文讨伐CDC了。说五个城市筛测新冠根本没开始。而且protocol没有改，所以就算是五个城市之一也需要满足回中国和确诊接触条件。而且我刚刚证实湾区根本还没有试剂。CDC还在解决质量问题，真是蜗牛速度 https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-does-the-u-s-have-so-few-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-11582241112 The CDC says it will set up a pilot program in five states to screen some patients with unexplained lung infections.But that program hasn’t started, so we can only hope that cases didn’t get into the U.S. undetected and begin spreading.
The CDC says it will set up a pilot program in five states to screen some patients with unexplained lung infections.But that program hasn’t started, so we can only hope that cases didn’t get into the U.S. undetected and begin spreading. careersearch 发表于 2/21/2020 2:42:55 PM
US changes the way it counts coronavirus cases The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will now track confirmed cases of novel coronavirus in the United States in two separate and distinct groups: those repatriated by the US Department of State and those identified by the US public health network.
What this means: By these new metrics, there are now 21 confirmed cases among repatriated Americans and 13 confirmed cases among Americans first identified on US soil, said Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease.
Eighteen cases have been confirmed among passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise ship now back in the United States. Three cases have been confirmed among passengers from the Wuhan repatriation flights now back in the United States.
Up until yesterday, the CDC was reporting 15 confirmed cases in the United States. The reason that number has dropped to 13 is because two cases have moved into the case count of repatriated individuals.
The change in the counting system starts today. fish_fish 发表于 2/21/2020 12:50:30 PM
As we all know, Coronavirus has been spread in many areas and countries instead of Wuhan alone, so CDC’s such a testing protocol will probably miss many new suspicious cases and cause potential spread of Coronavirus in communities of US before we know. Also I heard that a lady asked for help desperately for her son’s unknown phenomenon which is not flu after testing. Her family has closely contacted some friends who has visited China recently and her friends also got sick, so she requested for a test of Coronavirus but the doctor and Local Health department had to say NO to her according to CDC guideline...I also heard some such situations form people who work in hospitals or at doctor’s.
CDC needs to update their testing procedure according to updated situation, instead of refusing to test any suspicious cases which is not related to Wuhan.
Thank you again for your time and caring to our communities’ safety and US citizens voice!
Sorry i have no chinese input on this computer.. MM, if you really suspect that your little one has corona virus 1. Request to repeat the flu test 2. Escalate to county/city/state level, call and request to speak with the HEAD of the health department 3. request through your primary care provider at the same time, buy a oxygen saturation monitor. Follow up in an email for all requests and contact local news if no response within 24hrs.
But I do want to share with you that, getting tested positive for corona virus will not bring you any benefits. The treatment will remain the same until shortness of breath happens. In case of shortness of breath, your little one will be supplied with oxygen and even high pressured oxygen in ICU. The test could become relevant by then.
Sorry i have no chinese input on this computer.. MM, if you really suspect that your little one has corona virus 1. Request to repeat the flu test 2. Escalate to county/city/state level, call and request to speak with the HEAD of the health department 3. request through your primary care provider at the same time, buy a oxygen saturation monitor. Follow up in an email for all requests and contact local news if no response within 24hrs.
But I do want to share with you that, getting tested positive for corona virus will not bring you any benefits. The treatment will remain the same until shortness of breath happens. In case of shortness of breath, your little one will be supplied with oxygen and even high pressured oxygen in ICU. The test could become relevant by then.
As we all know, Coronavirus has been spread in many areas and countries instead of Wuhan alone, so CDC’s such a testing protocol will probably miss many new suspicious cases and cause potential spread of Coronavirus in communities of US before we know. Also I heard that a lady asked for help desperately for her son’s unknown phenomenon which is not flu after testing. Her family has closely contacted some friends who has visited China recently and her friends also got sick, so she requested for a test of Coronavirus but the doctor and Local Health department had to say NO to her according to CDC guideline...I also heard some such situations form people who work in hospitals or at doctor’s.
CDC needs to update their testing procedure according to updated situation, instead of refusing to test any suspicious cases which is not related to Wuhan.
Thank you again for your time and caring to our communities’ safety and US citizens voice!
昨天医生开的抗生素是Augmentin，昨天吃了两次，今天吃了三次。刚刚不知道是不是晚饭吃多了一点，吐了，温度又升到103.5. 小孩从来没有生病到这种程度,从小玩体育,一向都比较健康, 做妈妈的看见她这样,非常难过.希望明天就好起来. 求bless! 2/21/2020 今天打了很多电话给各个地方，非常非常失望！！！！！ 有网友私信我说CDC是通过International Reagent Resource把检验试剂盒发出去的，这个是他们的网站。https://www.internationalreagentresource.org/?deliveryName=USCDC_1052%20DM19438 1。我打电话给IRR，问我家附近哪里有lab可以查，回我说检验试剂盒给了state lab，至于是哪个state lab，让我自己去查！ 2。我打电话给了CDD，让我自己去找State health department。说要怎么查是State的事情。CDC只给建议 3。我打了电话给State Health Department。接线员说会报上去，然后有人会打电话给我。让我contact county public health department 4。我又打了电话给County public health department。 还是以前的答案。我小孩不符合检查的条件！还说整个county就只有两个case。我问接电话的人，如果不查怎么知道有没有传播社区，回答“没有传播社区，就两个cases”
Sorry i have no chinese input on this computer.. MM, if you really suspect that your little one has corona virus 1. Request to repeat the flu test 2. Escalate to county/city/state level, call and request to speak with the HEAD of the health department 3. request through your primary care provider at the same time, buy a oxygen saturation monitor. Follow up in an email for all requests and contact local news if no response within 24hrs.
But I do want to share with you that, getting tested positive for corona virus will not bring you any benefits. The treatment will remain the same until shortness of breath happens. In case of shortness of breath, your little one will be supplied with oxygen and even high pressured oxygen in ICU. The test could become relevant by then.
那你换位思考一下，如果你是这些小医院的医护，遇到疑似新冠，你能咋办？很大可能性是false alarm，把每个有嫌疑的都当疑似处理，每天要消耗多少防护用品？而且你要用，医院就给你吗？如果最后不是，那保险公司也不会付这些防护费用的吧？账单还是要医院自己吞。而且医护都穿防护了，还有人敢来你家医院看病吗？所以医院对医生多少都还是有些明示暗示的，现在可防可控，不要恐慌。医护不是不怕，医护也要养家糊口啊。
Mm我支持你
是的，聚会本身就是有风险的。楼主take了风险，现在有可能不好的后果了，不能承受了。
追回去最先的疑似来源比较可靠。
话说，自从2月初开始，我们取消了一切聚会。
你通过什么这么判断的呀？如果美国最终会爆发武汉肺炎，你说这句可能成立，如果没有呢，你说这句有什么根据吗？
我一直觉得湾区好多没查出来的，怎么可能就几例。中餐馆中国超市我都不去。
不是给911打电话，如果呼吸困难难以出行给911。lz的情况给当地的local health depaetment打电话。我月初怀疑自己，因为低烧，就打了。先打的医院，医院给了local health depaetment的号码。lz如果去ER，建议先搜你附近符合条件的医院。我自己所在州有说那些医院是满足条件。不是每个ER有条件处理的。但很有可能还是不给测。他们就不给我测，说我不符合条件。
是啊，所以我当时特别焦虑。担惊受怕。好在我吃药24h后就好转。现在已经退烧两个星期了。他们开始说我不算发烧。说98.6才算。我确实是低烧。打电话的时候没有超过98.6，但我是一发烧就特别难受的体质。后来也偶尔升到99。我那几天每天量很多次体温，血氧。我也是过于焦虑。没办法太怕死了。
中餐馆中国超市我也早就不去了，现在改去韩国店，结果发现里面无数说中文的，可能大家都是这么想的。希望日韩店能好点吧，但看现在他们自己国内的情况也非常不乐观。
我觉得加州算好的，纽约才是可怕，一个没确诊，都是流感死
是的 LZ说了是他朋友的同事从国内来 而且是超级碗那个时候，现在已经过了挺长时间了。。如果LZ一家这种三四代接触者都被染上了，那朋友公司的其他同事应该早爆了。。。而且新冠的话干咳应该是主要症状吧？为啥楼里一些忙着帮LZ诊断的人没有讨论这个信息，直接默认LZ小孩就是新冠了？
没有默认，就是让去查一下，现在是不给查。不就是官方说不是就不是吗？
很正常啊，武汉也是这么搞的，没去过华南海鲜的不给测
这个要点赞
还有人笑话台湾，美国也是不查就没有。连看病的权利都没有。还有自己绕弯去查什么淋巴细胞。不知道为什么有得人为什么这么自信。
谢谢更新
最好减少到零。这样更能粉饰太平。cdc脑子天天在想什么？
评论没有用，最有用的是打电话给议员，让议员去给CDC施压。 我已经写信给议员好几次了。他们也回了信。
对美国人来说，本土感染上的才有意义啊。
区分开来很好。
我刚给议员写信了。大家都写吧或者打电话。我英文不好，只是如果哪位没时间写email的话，请随便拿去用或者改。原文如下：
Dear,
I have to draw you attention to CDC current testing procedure of Coronavirus. Currently they “testing only those who recently arrived from China or have been in close contact with confirmed patients”, which was also reported by The Wall Street Journal https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-does-the-u-s-have-so-few-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-11582241112
As we all know, Coronavirus has been spread in many areas and countries instead of Wuhan alone, so CDC’s such a testing protocol will probably miss many new suspicious cases and cause potential spread of Coronavirus in communities of US before we know. Also I heard that a lady asked for help desperately for her son’s unknown phenomenon which is not flu after testing. Her family has closely contacted some friends who has visited China recently and her friends also got sick, so she requested for a test of Coronavirus but the doctor and Local Health department had to say NO to her according to CDC guideline...I also heard some such situations form people who work in hospitals or at doctor’s.
CDC needs to update their testing procedure according to updated situation, instead of refusing to test any suspicious cases which is not related to Wuhan.
Thank you again for your time and caring to our communities’ safety and US citizens voice!
Re. 我们这边好几起都是小孩第一次flu Negative. 过几天再查就是flu positive. LZ去urgent care在查查是不是flu.
MM, if you really suspect that your little one has corona virus
1. Request to repeat the flu test
2. Escalate to county/city/state level, call and request to speak with the HEAD of the health department
3. request through your primary care provider at the same time, buy a oxygen saturation monitor.
Follow up in an email for all requests and contact local news if no response within 24hrs.
But I do want to share with you that, getting tested positive for corona virus will not bring you any benefits.
The treatment will remain the same until shortness of breath happens.
In case of shortness of breath, your little one will be supplied with oxygen and even high pressured oxygen in ICU.
The test could become relevant by then.
你说话是行内人吗？不会有任何好处？现在不学医的人都知道新冠的几种算有效的药，不确诊谁会给你用？
我也发
楼主你的case也可以发reddit。
哪里说有有效药的，都是对症治疗。
re. 我也觉得，可以再测一次流感，或者换个医生看，或者换抗生素。我家小娃去年肺炎高烧，开了阿莫西林吃了两天也没退烧，就去urgent care，换了一种药，先打了一针然后继续吃一周药。当天下午就退烧了。还有如果你们接触过的其他人也去看病了么？
我今天去家庭医生的诊所，因为最近都是早上退烧晚上低烧，咳嗽，最高101度，心跳一直在100左右。
因为提到老公一个月以前和国内来人meeting，今天的护士带我走了特别通道，还穿了防护服和visor。
完了针对我的情况开了Zpak（抗生素），说不用做X光，X光有没有东西都是先来抗生素的。说根据我的症状和家里其他人的症状（小儿子上周细菌性肺炎吃了阿莫西林好了）决定的。
希望你家孩子快些好！Big bless！我看华人上以前关于肺炎的帖子，很多孩子吃抗生素疗程过半才退烧的。网上买个夹指头上的oximeter随时检查着。
不要装傻，美国现在公布有两个人用了人民的希望，法国有一例。泰国用克立之。这种病毒性感染，除非是没办法，像中国那样资源不够，都会给相应的抗病毒药。
有没有看出来是为了保护他们，而你x-ray都不照，就来抗生素了。服
我已经给我们州的议员写过信了，希望能有帮助。但是我觉得楼主可能还得继续找cdc和本地健康部门。飞亚特兰大能不能测啊？飞的时候戴好口罩。