"When I lost my mum, 23 yrs ago, you (the common people of England) took me under your wing, you looked after me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is that one day our collective force for each other will be more powerful." THIS is the part of his speech that the media should be publishing, the other stuff is far less important. He said it himself, there was no other option. He loves his family and as a man he decided to put them first. The end. Live n let live. All the best to Harry and his beautiful little family.He was a pilot ,he went to Afghanistan ,and he visits charities just like his mom ,he is a man with a free soul and brave heart that happens to know how to treat his wife and son ,isn’t that a good character in a man ?? I don’t think things are gonna be easier for them ,but it is his choice ,for God’s sake ,can’t we just let them be themself and wish them the best ?
"When I lost my mum, 23 yrs ago, you (the common people of England) took me under your wing, you looked after me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is that one day our collective force for each other will be more powerful." THIS is the part of his speech that the media should be publishing, the other stuff is far less important.
He said it himself, there was no other option. He loves his family and as a man he decided to put them first. The end. Live n let live. All the best to Harry and his beautiful little family.He was a pilot ,he went to Afghanistan ,and he visits charities just like his mom ,he is a man with a free soul and brave heart that happens to know how to treat his wife and son ,isn’t that a good character in a man ??
I don’t think things are gonna be easier for them ,but it is his choice ,for God’s sake ,can’t we just let them be themself and wish them the best ? diandianmama 发表于 1/20/2020 12:34:23 PM
"Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family. I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life. I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family. It is my whole family's hope that today's agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."
"Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family. I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life. I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family. It is my whole family's hope that today's agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."
"Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family. I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life. I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family. It is my whole family's hope that today's agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."
当然很多人羡慕王室了, 假如哈里就是个普通英国佬, 梅根也不会嫁给他。
人家王室出身,找到自己爱的女人,放弃的不过是排名不知道靠后多少的王位,年纪轻轻,天高任鸟飞的,需要你来操心?
人Henry挺帅的好不好,不相信爱情了吧,还是嫉妒?
就一个毛猴子,帅什么,傻不拉几,老爹有钱.
没了王室光环知名度和资金支持, 哈里就一傻小子根本吸引不了梅根。以梅根的戏精本色,过不了多久肯定踹了哈里的, 这傻小子不过是梅根上位路上的另一块垫脚石罢了。 梅根这一半辈子已经踹了无数类似的垫脚石。 那些捧梅根的网友们,去搜一搜梅根前夫好莱坞制片人Trevor Engelson, 梅根利用前夫在好莱坞上位,出名后果断踹掉这块没有利用价值的破垫脚石。 好奇哈里这块没利用价值的垫脚石还能撑多久。
起码比他老爹强,人好歹有戴安娜的基因
你走错片场了,英国王室早就不是”Henry”他们家的了。
近墨者黑
戴安娜就挺土的。
关键是这点,如果真像你说的这样,哈里应当喜气洋洋才合理。但是他的表情和措辞都非常bitter.
他老爹很有文化的. 他连高中都没念下来.
我相信在梅根的调教下,哈利同学会成长的
看他怎么飞,有的本事的是不用王室身份也能飞,否则就说明他们的退出只是为了给他们自己捞钱。。。
感觉就是放羊长大的。和他爸,他哥受得都不是一个教育。
我不支持也不反对王室,反正也不是我交税养他们,我就看戏就好了。。。评论这件事纯粹是从做人的角度出发,不知道你为什么会觉得批评他们俩就是羡慕王室。。。
他老爹这么有文化,不也是索南吗?
你长这么大了,难道没有人教过你,不要看别人说什么,要看他做了什么,要看结果是什么。。。
我觉得现在还把他妈拉出来博好感的,真够pathetic的。 虽然我不理解英国人对戴安娜的感情。
知道了就应该做出选择,要么不嫁,嫁了就安安份份做个王室媳妇。又要利益又要自由,还高调地作天作地,不能两全的时候就满地打滚撒泼:你们欺负我。
说皇室toxic,却用皇家头衔注册一堆商标,已经被剥夺了皇家头衔,却还死乞白咧在网站上继续用their royal heighnesses
梅根真是又当又立
恋爱甜蜜阶段都有些盲目,做决定的时候感情因素很大。哈里决定退出王室的时,很大一部分是维护自己的妻子,这个无可非议。
但是,他一切光环都是皇室给的,钱,头衔,各种身份和机会。他确实做出一些贡献。那仅仅是他出身皇室家庭。他做的一切,换个别的人,也能做。脱离皇室,他前三十多年,所有的荣耀,贡献,和皇室家庭,奶奶,父兄,侄子侄女,都基本割离了。我觉得对一个男人来讲,还是失去很多的,包括为军报国的使命感和荣耀。他为了梅根,和太多太多决裂了。
普通人的婚姻,都互相贡献,各自牺牲一些,成就一个大家庭。梅根嫁入皇室,太仓促,也许没有准备好需要面临的一切。但是以一种决绝的方式,让自己的丈夫割裂这么多,这决定做得太快。
离开皇室,以他们知名度,很可能可以通过商业活动实现经济独立,过得自由自在。可是,对哈里而言,以后挣的钱,和离开爱护自己的奶奶,父兄和其他亲人,曾经为国民为军队的的使命感,比起来如何呢?也许一切都值得,也许没那么值得。关键看他们未来怎么做,做到什么程度。
现在评价一切都有些早。再过5年,10年,20年后再看吧。
哈里会更成熟,他会有自己更深的思考和判断。毕竟,我们只是吃瓜。
楼上有位回复了嘛,别看一个人说啥,要看他/她做了啥。。俗称口嫌体直正
哈哈 他可能觉得全世界都欠他的 他要为了梅根跟全世界为敌
人傻没救……
你错了,他奶奶不是亲奶奶,他爹不是亲爹,他哥也是半个,嫂子还是老婆的仇家。
压力更大的是,全世界都知道这件事儿。退出来也不是他想退,老婆推了一把,归根到底还是他自己出身问题,所以才提了他娘要博取大众同情,
女王老太够狠,临了临了给皇室理清了这件事情
而且,说是老查还会给他95%的钱,呵呵,走着瞧吧
还真的是从来没有get到过戴安娜的美,特粗糙的白女那一类,连kate都比她婆婆好看
别不拿女王当豆包
梅根是美国人,对老美(和其他各国吃瓜群众来说)英国皇室就是有钱的celebrity,
而且美国celebrity也没什么道德底线,只要不违法,连以关心草根出名的政治人物离开office都可以出书演讲捞钱变现致富,从此混迹于各界巨头之中。
她应该是不愿意承担,作为皇室成员的责任义务压力,以及被媒体小报用各种放大镜各种挑剔。看她只和妈妈来往,和其他家人包括付了大笔学费的爸爸一刀两断,说明也不是什么亲情至上的包子女,
如此快跳船,应该是没有什么太多挣扎,势头不对就立马着手准备了的。
真是非常现实非常精明的了。
但是哈里毕竟是个成年人了,应该对自己负责。。。
这篇是最合理中肯的评论了。一页一页翻出来的。
几个要点:
1. 这个speech里面明显带悔意,跟自我justify 自己说服自己这件事的合理性
2. 被女王开除,哈里是无所适从的。大家不要从普通人的角度去考虑,要从一个从小王室是人切割王室角度去考虑。想象一下各位生长环境,如果突然打入非洲野蛮之地,的慌张。而非洲当地人可能说,打入又怎样,不还是很多特权很多钱?但是对当事人来说呢?
3. 两人发生一切都是处于甜蜜期。甜蜜期那种爱情饮水饱谁都经历过,但是繁华过后怎样,冷静下来面对真实枯燥的生活会怎样?大家拭目以待吧
这结局还用的着想吗,最后肯定是离婚收场。 不过男的不撞南墙不回头,非要和自家人翻脸,结果就是咎由自取了。
很多女的嫉妒她,想啥呢,是你嫉妒她吧。我以前一直很喜欢她的,这大半年看她越来越戏精附体了。要自由没关系,但不要其他啥的都想要。一般老百姓都不能have it all, 何况是戒备森严的皇室。
我同意真没人care他们的孩子是谁,白的也没人Care因为不是皇位继承人。 你知道Andrew王子的孩子是啥干嘛吗?
求仁得仁吧,也是三十大几快四十的人了,就只允许你们当着全世界的人打你奶奶,爸爸,哥哥嫂子的脸(他们对你那么好,没结婚前你和他们也是亲密的一家人)就不许你奶奶来个顺水推舟吗,对于梅根那样一个势利小人,女王她们肯定也为了二哈忍了很久了,梅根连婚礼上一个菜里有鸡蛋当场就甩脸子,结婚没几个月周围的工作人员都请辞,就可以看出此人多难相处,请神容易送神难,正好你们自己要作上天,好走不送了就
老太太这也是杀一儆百,以后王室还有人敢效仿,这就是结局。 现在终于明白老太太为啥能当那么多年女王,真是厉害人物。
是啊。
终于作死了
对的
至于哈利,这版上说他是loser,傻瓜的,就看不到他为爱和小家所付的责任,难道不是他走向成熟,摆脱其他阴影的第一步吗?他又不是主要王位继承人,有什么其他东西可以跟自己爱的小家可以相提并论的?
女王再好,不也没管住自己两个儿子吗?
说戴安娜难看的,先照照镜子再说。不过别担心,黑人还有可能因为政治正确进英国王室,黄人是基本没这个可能的,再舔也没用。
嗯,这个时界上只有像他哥哥爸爸,或者杨老这样的人才值得真爱,是吧
你不也是黄人吗?难不成是混了黑的?
我是黄人,但我没有舔王室
哈里是蛮好的,能敢于破规娶黑人为妻有勇气,能低下身份给老婆求工作,能为了老婆的意愿脱离王室,,,,他一个王子为了老婆做的蛮多的,反观他老婆梅根的为人,替他擦汗,,,,,,。
这么看来真不是亲生的?不能告诉大家,所以就放飞了?
我在想哪个傻逼娶了你?
女王本人的声明可没这么说。女王说哈利梅根与Archie永远是家庭much loved members, 还表扬梅根很快就融入家庭成为家庭一员。
"Following many months of conversations and more recent discussions, I am pleased that together we have found a constructive and supportive way forward for my grandson and his family.
Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family.
I recognise the challenges they have experienced as a result of intense scrutiny over the last two years and support their wish for a more independent life.
I want to thank them for all their dedicated work across this country, the Commonwealth and beyond, and am particularly proud of how Meghan has so quickly become one of the family.
It is my whole family's hope that today's agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life."
问题他能不能做到就只能拭目以待了。如果能小有成就还可以,但是他本身本事不大,之前所谓的民众支持率也是代表王室做慈善的来了,不知道一样会不会后悔。
不够聪明的男人。娶了个妖精。
别意淫了,王室有什么荣誉的,安德鲁王子的事情还不够难看吗?
冠冕堂皇的话也是要说的啊,要看女王怎么做,如果真的觉得梅根好,就会如梅根又当又立的愿,而不会彻底把她剥离皇室了
搞笑呢吧?他跟皇位距离很远呢!他想感兴趣也得不到。
扯淡。这是唐僧娶了妖精,被妖精作死的故事。
这里没人舔王室吧,真正舔王室的不是梅根?王室名声不好,她不是照样急匆匆的嫁进去了,哈里要不是王子,她会嫁?
所以冷藏了。。。
真是呢,冠冕堂皇的话肯定要说啊。她们对奶奶太不尊重了。
人家嫁进去不又出来了吗?再怎么说都是人家自己主动提出来的。
不冷藏能行吗?早干嘛去了?
真的很讽刺,这说明都说梅根给他洗了脑,在遇见梅根之前他原本很喜欢自己的大家庭。
梅根会愿意寒窑三年送夫进京赶考?哈哈哈
好像有点可能性。。。
女王标准的外交辞令啊,实际上手腕强硬
人家马上娃都有两个了,你说人家一夜情? 你当初也是这么盼着人家结不了婚的?
你跟家里决裂你会喜气洋洋吗?人人家说了是一个苦难的决定啊,家人和价值观最后选了价值观不代表对家人没感情啊。