这是真的吗?伊朗说用来打击美国的导弹是民主党送给伊朗的。而且是现金!

楼主 (北美华人网)
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AbeLoveMe
没错,奥巴马给的,现金。
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rabbit1688
本来就是。否则石油禁售,国内古兰经教育,钱从哪里来?
不得不注册
中国不是也给越南送钱送枪送炮么,最后让人打得血淋淋的
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xiaoqiu123
08直接送钱 中国是最大客户买石油
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TanShuDing
不是微信支付彰显天朝国威?差评打回去重编
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mise88
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.” THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries. When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it. The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU. In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers. -------------------------------------------------- TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.” THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq. “I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs. “It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?” Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.” As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established. Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad. 我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。
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AbeLoveMe
不是微信支付彰显天朝国威?差评打回去重编
TanShuDing 发表于 1/12/2020 6:36:17 PM


我党还用昆仑银行帮伊朗洗钱。 加上白左民主党喜欢跪下,比如本楼已经出现一个东拼西凑出来的白左解释。 奥巴马送钱和美国水兵下跪就是几年前的事。
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henshuhen
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.”

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it.

The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

--------------------------------------------------

TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.”

THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq.

“I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs.

“It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?”

Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.”

As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established.

Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad.

我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。
mise88 发表于 1/12/2020 6:48:38 PM


巴马都没跳出来洗 被床铺从16年选举骂道今年选举 看来还没你门清呢
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TanShuDing
飞机运现金,你包子大大蜂窝煤炉子都是金的对吧 呵呵呵
我党还用昆仑银行帮伊朗洗钱。 加上白左民主党喜欢跪下,比如本楼已经出现一个东拼西凑出来的白左解释。 奥巴马送钱和美国水兵下跪就是几年前的事。 AbeLoveMe 发表于 1/12/2020 6:54:00 PM
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might
之所以做出飞机运现金这么荒唐的事,就是因为奥巴马知道,这件事一旦曝光,相关款项肯定会被国会hold。 所以为了保证自己的“legacy”,豁出去了,七拼八凑,搞出一飞机现金,美元现金不够,还要问欧洲去借欧元。 伊朗人知道奥巴马是个废物怂包,更加有恃无恐,拿到钱之前,还抓了一船美国大兵,用枪指着头让美国士兵下跪,拍成录像全世界传颂。 但是过犹不及,实在太过分被川普记了仇,导致自己军队二把手在几年后被炸成肉酱。 这个可以说是美国历史上最荒谬的交易之一,奥巴马如果不是靠黑皮,和民主党+主流媒体的掩盖,早就因为叛国罪吃枪子了。
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AbeLoveMe
飞机运现金,你包子大大蜂窝煤炉子都是金的对吧
呵呵呵

TanShuDing 发表于 1/13/2020 12:14:30 PM


包子虽然文盲还真没有奥巴马这么荒唐,黄左不要跳脚,说出去没人信,可是奥巴就这麽干了,truth hurts。
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fanslunary
之所以做出飞机运现金这么荒唐的事,就是因为奥巴马知道,这件事一旦曝光,相关款项肯定会被国会hold。 所以为了保证自己的“legacy”,豁出去了,七拼八凑,搞出一飞机现金,美元现金不够,还要问欧洲去借欧元。 伊朗人知道奥巴马是个废物怂包,更加有恃无恐,拿到钱之前,还抓了一船美国大兵,用枪指着头让美国士兵下跪,拍成录像全世界传颂。 但是过犹不及,实在太过分被川普记了仇,导致自己军队二把手在几年后被炸成肉酱。 这个可以说是美国历史上最荒谬的交易之一,奥巴马如果不是靠黑皮,和民主党+主流媒体的掩盖,早就因为叛国罪吃枪子了。
might 发表于 1/13/2020 12:28:23 PM
马桶真是丧权辱国 误国! ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
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hijklmn
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.”

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it.

The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

--------------------------------------------------

TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.”

THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq.

“I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs.

“It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?”

Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.”

As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established.

Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad.

我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。
mise88 发表于 1/12/2020 6:48:38 PM


所以你的意思是,飞机运走了4亿而不是18亿?
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riveroam
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.”

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it.

The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

--------------------------------------------------

TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.”

THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq.

“I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs.

“It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?”

Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.”

As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established.

Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad.

我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。
mise88 发表于 1/12/2020 6:48:38 PM

对台湾同胞的眼光有了新的认识
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namamae
本来就是伊朗自己的钱,当初被美国冻结了而已。。。 一个个别整天只知道看fox被洗脑,好歹了解一下基本事实。。。
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namamae
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.”

THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries.

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it.

The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers.

--------------------------------------------------

TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.”

THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq.

“I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs.

“It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?”

Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.”

As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established.

Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad.

我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。
mise88 发表于 1/12/2020 6:48:38 PM


+1
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namamae
之所以做出飞机运现金这么荒唐的事,就是因为奥巴马知道,这件事一旦曝光,相关款项肯定会被国会hold。
所以为了保证自己的“legacy”,豁出去了,七拼八凑,搞出一飞机现金,美元现金不够,还要问欧洲去借欧元。

伊朗人知道奥巴马是个废物怂包,更加有恃无恐,拿到钱之前,还抓了一船美国大兵,用枪指着头让美国士兵下跪,拍成录像全世界传颂。
但是过犹不及,实在太过分被川普记了仇,导致自己军队二把手在几年后被炸成肉酱。

这个可以说是美国历史上最荒谬的交易之一,奥巴马如果不是靠黑皮,和民主党+主流媒体的掩盖,早就因为叛国罪吃枪子了。
might 发表于 1/13/2020 12:28:23 PM


当初贸易制裁时期,伊朗被美国隔离在全球金融结算系统之外。。
也就是说,美国那点钱想wire transfer都过不去。。
这种系统的重新开启,银行之间结点的重新联结需要时间。。
所以作为签署协议后的诚意体现,先把部分资金以现金方式送过去,这有啥问题?

你去银行提款还可以指定是转账方式还是直接提现呢。。。
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donkey
本来就是伊朗自己的钱,当初被美国冻结了而已。。。

一个个别整天只知道看fox被洗脑,好歹了解一下基本事实。。。
namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 1:57:06 PM


按你这么说土工当年抢的地本来都是地主的地,是不是可以考虑还一下了?变现成现金也行。。。
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namamae
按你这么说土工当年抢的地本来都是地主的地,是不是可以考虑还一下了?变现成现金也行。。。
donkey 发表于 1/13/2020 2:14:32 PM


中国政府认为要推翻土改政策吗?没有吧?

你真要说类似政策。。
当初在抄家/各种政治运动中被没收的各种财务/资产,包括文物/房产。。改革开放后确实有归还。。。
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riveroam


中国政府认为要推翻土改政策吗?没有吧?

你真要说类似政策。。
当初在抄家/各种政治运动中被没收的各种财务/资产,包括文物/房产。。改革开放后确实有归还。。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:18:25 PM

最后这个归还好像很没有底气的样子
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namamae
最后这个归还好像很没有底气的样子
riveroam 发表于 1/13/2020 2:22:38 PM


上海和广州都有归还,这点我确定。。身边有北京的朋友,他们家私房也归还了。。

全国其它地区没研究过。。
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AbeLoveMe


中国政府认为要推翻土改政策吗?没有吧?

你真要说类似政策。。
当初在抄家/各种政治运动中被没收的各种财务/资产,包括文物/房产。。改革开放后确实有归还。。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:18:25 PM


粉红不去好好学习一下我党的文件就张嘴胡说?改革开放后有归还?私房都还了?土地还了?当年镇反肃反死的人有赔偿了?
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pistonmove


中国政府认为要推翻土改政策吗?没有吧?

你真要说类似政策。。
当初在抄家/各种政治运动中被没收的各种财务/资产,包括文物/房产。。改革开放后确实有归还。。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:18:25 PM

我妈文革的时候被抄家,文革后说是落实政策,最后也就不了了之了,还白花了无数跑腿的公车票钱
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brandnewvest
知道啊。 当时听了这个下巴都掉了。 为啥是这么多的金额的数目, 是因为运输飞机的大小就只能装这么多的现金。 欧就是美国的破坏者,背叛者, , 能力低下, 暗搓搓的坏事全是他干的。 没有他, 美国不至于如此道德低下, 无视法律, 族裔之间的分裂, 都该谢谢这个o8。
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goldengate
本来就是伊朗自己的钱,当初被美国冻结了而已。。。

一个个别整天只知道看fox被洗脑,好歹了解一下基本事实。。。
namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 1:57:06 PM

那是前政权的钱,该不该给现政权不好说。
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justkankan


上海和广州都有归还,这点我确定。。身边有北京的朋友,他们家私房也归还了。。

全国其它地区没研究过。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:24:37 PM


你哪里来的那么大的脸说这两地的都归还了?

如果还没有的话, 是来找你要吗?
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g00gle
本来就是伊朗自己的钱,当初被美国冻结了而已。。。

一个个别整天只知道看fox被洗脑,好歹了解一下基本事实。。。
namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 1:57:06 PM

又蠢又坏的黄皮右逼哪里需要基本事实,yy多方便
林正平
上海和广州都有归还,这点我确定。。身边有北京的朋友,他们家私房也归还了。。

全国其它地区没研究过。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:24:37 PM


胡扯什么蛋!我家就是北京央属新闻机构的,国内各大党属新闻媒体都从这个机构领取统一定调的新闻稿编发。当年文革从资本家留学归国人员右派家里抄得大量书画古董金条首饰,八零年代大部分都没有返还,因为当年吵架的时候就没有登记过。后来中央出了政策部级以上干部可以出象征性的价格购买,注意这等好事是部级以上干部才能享用
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胡扯什么蛋!我家就是北京央属新闻机构的,国内各大党属新闻媒体都从这个机构领取统一定调的新闻稿编发。当年文革从资本家留学归国人员右派家里抄得大量书画古董金条首饰,八零年代大部分都没有返还,因为当年吵架的时候就没有登记过。后来中央出了政策部级以上干部可以出象征性的价格购买,注意这等好事是部级以上干部才能享用

林正平 发表于 1/13/2020 3:46:28 PM

上海的房子我知道的都还了
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对那段历史不熟,谁来说说具体怎么回事。根据前面说的,这个钱是当时伊朗扣押了美国领事馆66名外交人员和家属以后,美国冻结伊朗在美国的资产,这么多年产生的本金和利息。 但是刚刚看wiki https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BC%8A%E6%9C%97%E4%BA%BA%E8%B4%A8%E5%8D%B1%E6%9C%BA 里面说“作为释放人质的交换条件,美国同意解冻此前所冻结的80亿美元资产,并保证不就此事起诉伊朗” 时间是1980年底。1981年1月份人质被释放回到美国。 所以o8给的这个钱是什么?
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上海和广州都有归还,这点我确定。。身边有北京的朋友,他们家私房也归还了。。

全国其它地区没研究过。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:24:37 PM


一码归一码,为嘛我公婆家的没有还。北京的。能找你要吗?
林正平

上海的房子我知道的都还了

g00gle 发表于 1/13/2020 3:50:55 PM

你知道有几个?你知道的还了就代表全上海都还了?说话不要说得太满容易被打脸
林正平

当初贸易制裁时期,伊朗被美国隔离在全球金融结算系统之外。。
也就是说,美国那点钱想wire transfer都过不去。。
这种系统的重新开启,银行之间结点的重新联结需要时间。。
所以作为签署协议后的诚意体现,先把部分资金以现金方式送过去,这有啥问题?

你去银行提款还可以指定是转账方式还是直接提现呢。。。

namamae 发表于 1/13/2020 2:02:38 PM


自打你引用东北数据被鲜花一群东北ID啪啪打脸懵的鼻青脸肿晕头转向💫……我对你摘抄又引用看似满嘴专业名词守则通篇假话的做派鄙视得一塌糊涂
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华尔街时报写了一系列的深度调查报告。有根有据。 08本来想让华尔街银行弄的,结果没有银行敢接。后来08急了,直接上的飞机给现金。 美国历史上一大耻辱。
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华尔街时报写了一系列的深度调查报告。有根有据。
08本来想让华尔街银行弄的,结果没有银行敢接。后来08急了,直接上的飞机给现金。
美国历史上一大耻辱。
Caffeine 发表于 1/13/2020 4:11:01 PM


能给个具体的link吗?

我也觉得奇怪, 既然银行的已经都解冻了, 悄悄的解冻了也就算了。 为什么还要上杆子地驮一飞机的现钞巴巴的送过去?
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能给个具体的link吗?

我也觉得奇怪, 既然银行的已经都解冻了, 悄悄的解冻了也就算了。 为什么还要上杆子地驮一飞机的现钞巴巴的送过去?

快乐小新 发表于 1/13/2020 4:14:57 PM


怕trump反悔啊。。。
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不过我觉得美国一直在世界各地花钱支持一些团体去反不听他们的话地政府,然后过些年被反噬。。。拉登不是他们扶持的吗?所以也不要说民主党还是共和党了,他们的对外政策没有本质性区别。。。
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能给个具体的link吗?
我也觉得奇怪, 既然银行的已经都解冻了, 悄悄的解冻了也就算了。 为什么还要上杆子地驮一飞机的现钞巴巴的送过去?

快乐小新 发表于 1/13/2020 4:14:57 PM

The $400 million was paid in foreign currency because any transaction with Iran in U.S. dollars is illegal under U.S. law. Sanctions also complicate Tehran’s access to global banks."They were totally cut off from global banks and there was no other way to get them the money," one senior official with knowledge of the transaction said.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html
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支持韩国鱼的就是脑子不好使啊,建议你去找琼瑶奶奶一起去台北淋淋雨
TRUMP: “Iran’s hostility substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013. And they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.” THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury or other countries. When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. Iran was allowed to get its money back. The deal actually was signed in 2015, after a 2013 preliminary agreement. Trump has taken the U.S. out of it. The $1.8 billion is a separate matter. A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU. In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest. The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s previous dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later, not crammed into containers. -------------------------------------------------- TRUMP: “The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration.” THE FACTS: That accusation comes without corroboration. The administration has offered no information supporting the contention that in regaining access to $150 billion of its assets that had been frozen abroad, Iran steered a chunk of that money to the missiles that hit the bases in Iraq. “I doubt anyone has the insight into Iran’s budgetary mechanisms to say that this money was used for this purpose,” said Gerald Feierstein, a career U.S. diplomat who retired in 2016 as the principal deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs. “It’s a funds-are-fungible kind of argument,” he said. “I mean, if they have money, can you say that dollar went directly to buy a missile, as opposed to freeing up another dollar that went to buy a missile?” Gen. Joseph Votel, who retired from the U.S. Army in March as the top military commander for the Middle East, said he was not aware of any specific intelligence on this question. “I don’t have anything that would particularly support that,” he said. “I’m not saying it did or it didn’t, but I don’t have details to demonstrate it one way or the other.” As President Barack Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry said it was possible Iran would use some of the money being returned to it for malign activities. Whether it did in this case has not been established. Iran has many sources of revenue, despite the severe pinch of sanctions. Oil sales to China and other countries dominate its exports. It also sells chemicals, plastics, fruits and more abroad. 我都懶得吐槽了。這些危言聳聽的謊話還有那麼多人信,怪不得川普可以信口開河亂講話。 mise88 发表于 1/12/2020 6:48:00 PM
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支持韓國魚的就是腦子不好使啊,建議你去找瓊瑤奶奶一起去台北淋淋雨

nalili88發表於1/13/2020 4:41:43 PM

沒有支持韓國瑜歐。唯一支持蔣萬安!
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你知道有几个?你知道的还了就代表全上海都还了?说话不要说得太满容易被打脸

林正平 发表于 1/13/2020 4:03:11 PM 我知道都还了有问题吗? 我说了都还了吗? 阅读智障
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g00gle 发表于 1/14/2020 11:48:35 AM

你不但阅读障碍你还眼瞎

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你不但阅读障碍你还眼瞎



林正平 发表于 1/14/2020 1:01:01 PM

mark一下看谁眼瞎,是智障不能阅读了?
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有病吃药,你这属于狂犬病晚期,你哪里看出我改过贴了? 你上面画出来的不是断章取义吗,眼瞎了还是脑子瓦塔了

g00gle 发表于 1/14/2020 4:32:06 PM

我就是截了你一个图,看你先说你知道上海的“都“归还了,然后又自己否认自己说了“都”、接着发现自己说过“都”又马上改贴,你不但狂犬病你还脑残眼瞎,自己说的话不认,我就让大家看看你发狂犬病脑残眼瞎的症状

我知道的上海被抄的都还了……我什么时候说过都还了?你眼瞎

哈哈哈哈😂这就是你的狂犬病眼瞎脑残证明LOL.,,,
林正平

mark一下看谁眼瞎,是智障不能阅读了?

g00gle 发表于 1/14/2020 4:33:14 PM


你真是个大傻逼,自己先说都还了,还不承认自己说过都还,傻逼就是傻逼
林正平
我知道都还了有问题吗? 我说了都还了吗? 来来来都来看大傻逼说的傻逼话
林正平
楼里大家讨论的是文革抄家的财务有没有都还,又不是讨论大傻逼知道的抄家的有没有都还
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loser 傻逼 智障,我知道的都还了和都还了能一样吗,傻逼就是傻逼送给你
林正平
loser 傻逼 智障,我知道的都还了和都还了能一样吗,傻逼就是傻逼送给你

g00gle 发表于 1/16/2020 4:19:25 PM

所以大家讨论上海被抄家的有没有都归还和你知道的都还了有狗屁逻辑关系?说你傻逼智障你还不承认!
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所以大家讨论上海被抄家的有没有都归还和你知道的都还了有狗屁逻辑关系?说你傻逼智障你还不承认!

林正平 发表于 1/16/2020 7:22:50 PM

终于承认自己眼瞎了,智障傻逼!
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所以大家讨论上海被抄家的有没有都归还和你知道的都还了有狗屁逻辑关系?说你傻逼智障你还不承认!

林正平 发表于 1/16/2020 7:22:50 PM

全家傻逼才有你这样的狗杂种
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全家傻逼才有你这样的狗杂种
g00gle 发表于 1/17/2020 9:45:59 PM

你全家傻逼+狗杂种!
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你全家傻逼+狗杂种!

林正平 发表于 1/17/2020 9:48:17 PM

送给你 你全家傻逼+狗杂种!
林正平

送给你 你全家傻逼+狗杂种!

g00gle 发表于 1/17/2020 11:13:23 PM

送给你,你全家傻逼+狗杂种!