真的，求求你了，不懂就别说了。 One of the first points to be understood is that there are two forms of Obamacare: the public and the private forum. When a person is speaking of “private health insurance,” this plan is still considered to be Obamacare. The public form of Obamacare is organized by the federal government and is offered to the public as the Public Exchange or Marketplace. The Marketplace offers insurance to the public through governmental agency websites such as healthcare.gov.
Comment: Some commenters stated that an education requirement would be moredifficult for immigrant women, stating that immigrant women from certain countries,such as Mexico, El Salvador, and China, are less likely to have completed high school,and are therefore, less likely to overcome a negative assessment based on this factor.Similarly, a commenter stated that the negative weight for lack of a high school diplomaand lack of employment history would impact a significant portion of women from Asiancountries who are adjusting their status.Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future. 针对中国大妈还特意有优待哒
glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 2:22:36 PM
有个屁的优待，你贴个comment有什么用，你怎么不贴官方给这个comment的response呢？ Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
真的，求求你了，不懂就别说了。 One of the first points to be understood is that there are two forms of Obamacare: the public and the private forum. When a person is speaking of “private health insurance,” this plan is still considered to be Obamacare. The public form of Obamacare is organized by the federal government and is offered to the public as the Public Exchange or Marketplace. The Marketplace offers insurance to the public through governmental agency websites such as healthcare.gov.
Comment: Some commenters stated that an education requirement would be moredifficult for immigrant women, stating that immigrant women from certain countries,such as Mexico, El Salvador, and China, are less likely to have completed high school,and are therefore, less likely to overcome a negative assessment based on this factor.Similarly, a commenter stated that the negative weight for lack of a high school diplomaand lack of employment history would impact a significant portion of women from Asiancountries who are adjusting their status.Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future. 针对中国大妈还特意有优待哒
glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 2:22:36 PM
有个屁的优待，你贴个comment有什么用，你怎么不贴官方给这个comment的response呢？ Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
Under the new rule, the financial well-being of immigrants who are in the United States legally on temporary visas will be more heavily scrutinized when they seek a green card. Immigration officials will consider an immigrant’s age, health, family status, assets, resources, financial status and education. But the officials will be given broad leeway to determine whether an immigrant is likely to be a user of public benefits, to deny them a green card and to order them deported.希望你说的对是我过分解读。像我家这种情况，这条新闻里的immigrants是单独指我父母，还是指父母和担保人一起？如果是单单指父母，那不是很大劣势？
based on 这个你给我的link 就是要求新移民不能成为社会的负担，不能领粮食券要自己买保险，这怎么影响你父母移民了？你父母自己工资不够你和你老公可以成为担保人，看不出哪里影响父母移民了
Bellissima 发表于 8/13/2019 1:36:25 PM
看这一条： The rule would subject immigrant households who fall below certain income thresholds to the "public charge" test — which would also consider how well applicants speak, read and write English. Under the proposed rule, any diagnosed medical condition that requires extensive medical treatment would also "weigh heavily" in evaluations by caseworkers. 年纪大的中国老人能通过这个测试的少之又少吧，绿卡申请不是很难了吗？
铁定能下台也行阿
那人没有看细则，那context来唬人
你自己没搞清楚状况 买了四年都不知道自己买的是什么
你家这个一定不是Obamacare。是在state协助下的有限度的
private plan例如kaiser之类的针对老年人的private plan
新政说60天后实行，不知道到时候DHS 上会不会有更新了。现在网站上还是老政的条文
简单，子女回国
One of the first points to be understood is that there are two forms of Obamacare: the public and the private forum. When a person is speaking of “private health insurance,” this plan is still considered to be Obamacare. The public form of Obamacare is organized by the federal government and is offered to the public as the Public Exchange or Marketplace. The Marketplace offers insurance to the public through governmental agency websites such as healthcare.gov.
Read more at: https://www.healthcoveragefast.com/articles/private-health-insurance-vs-obamacare/
有个屁的优待，你贴个comment有什么用，你怎么不贴官方给这个comment的response呢？
Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
你觉得官方陈诺什么优待了？？？？？
哎
至少我们州６５岁以上老人可以买obamacare
大姐，拜托，你连public's comments 和DHS' responses 都没搞清楚！！！
什么限度？什么叫private plan你先定义下？你是专门负责给人申请保险的工作人员？我在health department，人家就在obamacare网站上，当面一步一步填信息和我确认申请的
就应该买商业保险，
如果买不到或者买不起商业保险，
就应该一颗红心两种准备，如果生病要么回国看要么这里交钱看。
为什么美国offer什么福利保险会成为中国人养老的障碍。
又一个乱投帽子的傻逼。就是在这里讨论，一旦意见不合一定被扣上"父母要来吃福利的”帽子。
我父母不会来的你放心，不嫌麻烦就人肉一下我的ID。 每次遇到你这种乱扣帽子的我都要提醒你去人肉我来证明你又脑补了，烦死。
按你说的，中国老人大部分会英语，来了美国还要打工，而且都健健康康没有任何病。哈哈哈哈，说这话你脸臊不臊？先看看你自己爹妈啥水平吧，他们托福考了几分啊，他们还能和美国人谈笑风生对吧。
这些老人的子女们一想到有可能不再能让他们来吃里扒外也伤感的不行。
我说不符合条件的不让来很合理。
比如你爸妈就做的很好啊。不行就不移民啊。
我分享过我爸妈当年考g考t考的不错。
你可以去考古一下，不用脑补啦。
当然啦，我爸妈不爱来美国，一家团聚肯定是我海归方便。
我也求求你不要误导新来的朋友你说了半天不知道在哪个网站上找了一堆没有说服力
的文字出来，事实上我已经说过了 你帮一个新移民父母
没有任何收入的父母买一个可以负担的plan是基本不可能的
当然纽约州和加州有很好的州财政资助的混合型plan那另当别论
联邦管理的obamacare不可能给你提供
你现在说的轻松 当这位朋友的父母真的移民来了买不到
两眼一摸黑那时候找谁去？找你？
就是 在国内都养不起老 还要到美国来养老 拿什么养？
收紧移民政策，有可能动用医疗资源的岁数大的老人会被拒绝发放绿卡，川普没法让深蓝州砍福利，只能从门口拦截
人家已经科普你了，不用抓瞎，不用找网友，找去department of health有人帮你填票。
你还不去感谢一下人家科普你。
就是把老人带到美国，让美国政府出钱养老，自己拿爸妈的房子工资，一分钱不出，这种人一堆堆的。
就是收紧福利吧，扩大了public charge的范围，当然我没读原文
不会英文不能自立还要跑美国来的才真是不害臊 你别和我急 这话既没说你也没说你爹妈
当年是多少年前？20年？30年？那你爸妈多年来英语长进了？能谈笑风生了？
对， 不符合条件不让来很合理，我也没说不合理啊，我就是说新政策下中国老人大部分不符合啊？不就是为了回答楼主的问题吗。你就别乱扣帽子了。
建议你既然你要海归就快归吧，还在论坛上讨论美国的事情岂不是浪费你的时间，反正你都是要海归的。
如果如实申报，如果有个两万美元资产，包括存款股票房子，任何福利都申请不上，根本不算低收入。唯一办法就是把所有资产花光再说。
什么叫大多数中国老人不符合？guideline 都没出来，您都知道谁符合谁不符合？也可能人家要求70一下，高中学历，会abc啊。
我没说我要海归啊，我说要团聚就海归。我家不要团聚啊。
所以啊，我说啊，你总爱脑补瞎说，添油加醋。拉黑。
我们靠自己给父母养老，不靠别人
唉哟，你歇歇吧，我原来以为你只是不懂单词，后来发现你字母也看不懂
把我的内容里后半部再贴一遍，然后说你为什么不贴呢，我也无语了，看不懂字母就学啊，难民是免费的啊
貌似说的是绿卡持有者不能成为社会的负担，通俗讲吃福利
有个屁的优待，你贴个comment有什么用，你怎么不贴官方给这个comment的response呢？
Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
你觉得官方陈诺什么优待了？？？？？
你笑死我了，把字母学学好，单词慢慢来
要子女进行经济担保。
以前也一样，不过没怎么追查子女的担保责任
我们这一代人的父母还不能靠自己养老 也真是够loser的了
那大姐，您英语真好，您给解释一下有什么优待吧？？？ 还优待您啊？少给你自己脸上贴金行不？
谢谢mm理解，有的人真是站着说话不腰疼
你太把华人当颗葱了。没人有那个兴趣会针对1%的人口花那么大的心思和精力推行政策。这1%的人里给父母办移民的又是少数。
昨天就出来了，还说没出来。没出来能成新闻？这么多条件，大多数中国老人当然不符合了。估计一半亲属绿卡要被卡。没这么大影响的话为什么是昨天头条新闻呢。真是傻白甜。
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那就努力挣钱啦！实在没有能力就多回去看看父母，还有如果真想跟父母享受天伦之乐也可以海归啊，其实有很多路可走的，不是只有移民一条路的，看你弃舍了！大部分美国中产养自己也很辛苦，更没有能力去养父母了。新策以前就有，只是加强力度实行而已，确实美国没有义务帮忙养外国人和外国的老人。
首先这位大姐复制粘贴连分段都不会。再来我还是那句话，您给解释一下对中国大妈有什么优待吧，凭什么给优待啊，因为你是难民吗？
估计主要是挡西裔的链式移民的
那就努力挣钱啦！实在没有能力就多回去看看父母，还有如果真想跟父母享受天伦之乐也可以海归啊，其实有很多路可走的，不是只有移民一条路的，看你弃舍了！大部分美国中产养自己也很辛苦，更没有能力去养父母了。新策以前就有，只是加强力度实行而已，确实美国没有义务帮忙养外国人和外国的老人。
楼主，移民有两种，一个是自己有能耐给自己移，一个是亲属移民，就是你有能耐把其他人移过来。
你家应该是后者，所以考虑你的经济情况。
移民法并没有改，这种改动阵仗很大，不是哪个人动动嘴和手就可以的。现在只是严格执行移民法而已。
说自己父母过来不吃福利不管用的，米帝根据申请人的状况，认为你可能性高就不给了
说自己父母不吃福利的，父母老了生病住院那是几十万，上百万的医疗费，你给付？
什么保险，70、80岁老人原价保险超贵或者根本买不到的，能买到的基本是有补贴的
我们都是自己辛苦工作， 供养自己的父母。 不像你这么不要脸， 别人不给你养，你还赖上了。
这位簇新簇新的ID，知道啥叫汉奸吗？汉奸就是那些吃着汗人种的粮食帮着外族打汉人的人。
你这种吃着美国的粮恨着美国的人，是个啥玩意儿？
没文化真可怕。
美奸？
至少目前父母移民没受到什么大影响，如果你现在是公民，就抓紧办吧。另外，以前川普说控制的是兄弟姐妹那种非直系亲属移民，父母移民应该还好了。但是移民这种事情，不是川普一个人说了算的，国会大部分还是支持移民综合改革。
当然是收紧福利政策，其实也不是，是严格按照福利政策行事。
不仅是对移民，对本国公民也在严打滥用福利。
会不会是白卡medicaid？ 超过65岁的低收入老人白卡免费，超过五年各种福利，护理，food stamp, 现金补助，房屋补助。甚至电话费，。。。。法拉盛各种护理中心如雨后春笋
你给父母户头放一些钱可以吗？
你妈在美拿绿卡多少年后参加入籍考试的？移民局的规定拿绿卡满15年以后才能用母语考试，当然还有另外的年龄限制。
我家也是子女出钱出力给父母养老。中国政府根本不管自己国家的老人，媒体到处宣传孝道，国家制定个赡养法，反正就是一句话，自己搞定。
啥”只生一个好，政府来养老”，狗屁！不要脸最无耻的莫过于共铲党中国政府了。
但是有些华人却为此叫好 好像忘记自己肤色的样子
你这个也太阿q了吧，这种操作空间太大了你还总往好方面想。你不知道今年很多intern opt被拖着实习都去不了吗，
外加到处编故事黑海华收了国内父母房产不给国内父母养老，一条龙面面俱到。
可惜论坛上不是吐槽被父母围剿压榨的就是哀怨没办法让美国政府给父母买单的...
很好奇你父母是已经过来了吗
你这是搞笑吗
你还在这里杠 真是个杠精
你只要在这里贴一个800或者什么电话 说打这个或者按12345就可以给
65岁以上老人买Obamacare不就得了吗？
好过你杠一千贴
更不用说让你找一个低于50哪怕是100/月的保险了
现在的private plan针对65+多数在475/月以上这还是最基本的
所有的月费低于50的全是州政府资助的private保险
有些人说这是Obamacare。你给我在Obamacare里面翻一条
出来哪条是州政府资助的private plan
找出来我服你
我懒得科普你obcare的定义。
我拉黑你啦。
所以你既找不到实际可操作的例子,又无法找出相应的plan,还来怼我说我父母要过来吃纳税人的钱.
其实你想的是,"我父母没过来,你们都也别把父母带过来吃福利"是把,所以在这里误导网友
谢谢你拉黑我
在国内眼睁睁地看着美国这么多白给的拿不到 生不如死吧
热
RE. 如果不是父母喜欢美国，又有经济能力，语言也能应付日常生活的，来了也是遭罪。
先被国内各个论坛上教怎样来美国占便宜的攻略挠得心痒痒，
平时聊天又被谁家占的多的攀比弄出羡慕妒忌恨，
然后还有黑美华不孝顺的鸡汤故事激起民愤，
你得理解人家在这样环境下的心路历程。
说实话，只要允许买保险，不是天价，川普搞这套也无可厚非。让你移民，也不能绑着让你父母移。都是市场竞争，如果美国引进不了人材了，自然会放开条件，给亲属优惠。算是合理。来这里就要有这个心里准备。
以前的混过来了也是他们的运气，timing对了。
这不是上船没上船的问题，我父母也没来。这是你要父母还是要孩子的问题。美国现在不比以前了，trump的政策也不是只针对中国人，如果不加控制这种亲属移民下去的话，你想想各种文化各个国家有多少人要来。美国等不到孩子长大就败光了，大家都完蛋。
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不要脸的逻辑之一就是哎呦喂那个人都占便宜了凭什么自己不能占？
所以说说不到一块去。
你的意思是黄色皮肤代表办父母过来吃福利？
你不要脸我还要呢。尽给华人丢人。
好像你不在这讨论人家就不来了似的。。。。