Durham academy 2.5万一年，cary academy 2万多一年。。。那里有新开的shopping mall了？ 如果publix 都算的话。。。saks里的lv店都没了。。。中国饭馆的水平就是能吃，时不时的吃完了，还觉得怎么那么难吃。。。夏天巨热，时间还长，蚊虫多。。房价也越来越贵。。新开发的小区，马路连马路牙子都没有，开发商为了省钱。。。40万的房子， 连门框和窗户框都没有。。 生活费用一点儿都不低。。。
by Steve Matthews April 27, 2017, 9:00 PM PDT April 28, 2017, 8:45 AM PDT
Migration from U.S. north to south is highest in decade
Employment booms in Florida, Georgia and other ‘sand states’
Susan Gifford moved last August from Rome, New York, to Garden City, South Carolina, where she lives in a home two miles from the beach. “The weather was the motivating factor, getting away from winter,” the 67-year-old retired teacher said. Almost 600,000 Americans moved from the Midwest and Northeast to the Sun Belt states last year, the most since 2005, according to Brookings Institution demographer William Frey. Migration is boosting growth along Southeast and Western coasts as well as Nevada and Arizona, reflecting a healthier national economy that has made it easier to re-locate. Retirement centers Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and The Villages near Orlando were the fastest growing metro areas in the U.S. in the year ended July 1, while a flow of younger workers have led to employment booms in Florida, Georgia and Nevada, all growing at almost twice the rate of the nation. “There’s been a renewed push of people moving to the Sun Belt,” said IHS Markit economist Karl Kuykendall. “The 2009 recession slowed it down because of the housing slump and severely hurt resident mobility. More people are back to moving south and west for better jobs, and there is retiree migration as well.”
Sun Belt migration fell by almost half between 2005 and 2010 as aging baby boomers delayed retirement in the wake of both plunging home prices and stocks, and the “sand states” suffered from record foreclosures. Moreover, fewer job opportunities in the wake of the most severe recession since the 1930s prompted fewer job-related moves. “Think of the recession as freezing people in place -- now that is thawing,” said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer and public policy professor at the University of New Hampshire. “States with histories of slow growth due to large domestic migration losses -- which did better during the recession -- are starting to see less growth again.” U.S. government data released Friday showed that residential investment increased at a 13.7 percent annualized pace in the first quarter, contributing 0.5 percentage point to economic growth, the most since the fourth quarter of 2012. Florida added 207,155 people in 2016, or almost 600 people a day. By contrast, New York, Illinois and California each lost more than 100,000 people.
The Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce promotes tourism in about 50 travel and trade shows each year, and the visits now invite relocation as well, said Brad Dean, its president. Recent pitches were in Scranton, Pennsylvania, as well as Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio. “We hear people say, ‘When I can sell this home I am moving down south,’” he said. “There is clearly a base of people ready to make a change. We are not surprised by this steady growth. Our message is always well received.” Gifford said she had vacationed for years in South Carolina, and moved after selling her house in New York. She goes to the beach three or four days a week. “It is sunny 75 percent of the time and the beaches are beautiful,” she said. “There are more things to do than in central New York. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.” Mobility Still RestrainedMobility of Americans represents part of the nation’s dynamism, and low migration has concerned economists because it tends to hurt the labor market’s ability to function. Even with the Sun Belt pickup, overall interstate moves are half the level of 1990, according to the Population Reference Bureau in Washington. Demographers say the pickup in the Southeast and West likely represents the start of a broader mobility. “The uptick has to do with a return of the job and housing markets,” Frey said. “Now young adult millennials are starting to make their way to rapidly growing regions where employment is plentiful.” In metro Atlanta, employment rose 3.9 percent in the year ended March, the largest increase on record, according to the Georgia Department of Labor. The February rise was the most among the largest U.S. cities. Jobs in Georgia and Florida both rose 3 percent.
“We seem to be in the midst of broad-based job creation,” said Thomas Cunningham, a former Atlanta Fed economist who now is chief economist for the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce. Technology jobs in midtown are booming, he said. Labor force growth is “consistent with migration getting back to prerecession levels.” For cities competing for skilled workers, luring migrants is key to competitiveness. The Atlanta chamber started a campaign called ChooseATL which promotes the city’s livability to millennials, born between 1981 and 2000, through digital marketing and social media like Instagram. Some marketing is targeted to those attending college graduations, said Kate Atwood, who heads the campaign. “Companies want to be where the talent is,” she said. “We need to be sure we have the young people to fill these jobs.” Kasia Galazka, 31, got hired in December for a marketing job in Atlanta by MailChimp, an email marketing company that started in 2001. Having moved from Omaha, Nebraska, she said she likes Atlanta’s “big city” feel, with lots of new restaurants, as well as low costs. “I jumped at the idea because this is a place I can see my career growing,” she said, and higher pay and better benefits will allow her to shop for a house. “You can actually own a home here. You are not hemorrhaging money just to live.”
New Yorkers Flock to Booming Sun Belt as Trek South Resumes by Steve Matthews April 27, 2017, 9:00 PM PDT April 28, 2017, 8:45 AM PDT Migration from U.S. north to south is highest in decade Employment booms in Florida, Georgia and other ‘sand states’ Susan Gifford moved last August from Rome, New York, to Garden City, South Carolina, where she lives in a home two miles from the beach. “The weather was the motivating factor, getting away from winter,” the 67-year-old retired teacher said. Almost 600,000 Americans moved from the Midwest and Northeast to the Sun Belt states last year, the most since 2005, according to Brookings Institution demographer William Frey. Migration is boosting growth along Southeast and Western coasts as well as Nevada and Arizona, reflecting a healthier national economy that has made it easier to re-locate. Retirement centers Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and The Villages near Orlando were the fastest growing metro areas in the U.S. in the year ended July 1, while a flow of younger workers have led to employment booms in Florida, Georgia and Nevada, all growing at almost twice the rate of the nation. “There’s been a renewed push of people moving to the Sun Belt,” said IHS Markit economist Karl Kuykendall. “The 2009 recession slowed it down because of the housing slump and severely hurt resident mobility. More people are back to moving south and west for better jobs, and there is retiree migration as well.” Sun Belt migration fell by almost half between 2005 and 2010 as aging baby boomers delayed retirement in the wake of both plunging home prices and stocks, and the “sand states” suffered from record foreclosures. Moreover, fewer job opportunities in the wake of the most severe recession since the 1930s prompted fewer job-related moves. “Think of the recession as freezing people in place -- now that is thawing,” said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer and public policy professor at the University of New Hampshire. “States with histories of slow growth due to large domestic migration losses -- which did better during the recession -- are starting to see less growth again.” U.S. government data released Friday showed that residential investment increased at a 13.7 percent annualized pace in the first quarter, contributing 0.5 percentage point to economic growth, the most since the fourth quarter of 2012. Florida added 207,155 people in 2016, or almost 600 people a day. By contrast, New York, Illinois and California each lost more than 100,000 people. The Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce promotes tourism in about 50 travel and trade shows each year, and the visits now invite relocation as well, said Brad Dean, its president. Recent pitches were in Scranton, Pennsylvania, as well as Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio. “We hear people say, ‘When I can sell this home I am moving down south,’” he said. “There is clearly a base of people ready to make a change. We are not surprised by this steady growth. Our message is always well received.” Gifford said she had vacationed for years in South Carolina, and moved after selling her house in New York. She goes to the beach three or four days a week. “It is sunny 75 percent of the time and the beaches are beautiful,” she said. “There are more things to do than in central New York. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.” Mobility Still RestrainedMobility of Americans represents part of the nation’s dynamism, and low migration has concerned economists because it tends to hurt the labor market’s ability to function. Even with the Sun Belt pickup, overall interstate moves are half the level of 1990, according to the Population Reference Bureau in Washington. Demographers say the pickup in the Southeast and West likely represents the start of a broader mobility. “The uptick has to do with a return of the job and housing markets,” Frey said. “Now young adult millennials are starting to make their way to rapidly growing regions where employment is plentiful.” In metro Atlanta, employment rose 3.9 percent in the year ended March, the largest increase on record, according to the Georgia Department of Labor. The February rise was the most among the largest U.S. cities. Jobs in Georgia and Florida both rose 3 percent. “We seem to be in the midst of broad-based job creation,” said Thomas Cunningham, a former Atlanta Fed economist who now is chief economist for the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce. Technology jobs in midtown are booming, he said. Labor force growth is “consistent with migration getting back to prerecession levels.” For cities competing for skilled workers, luring migrants is key to competitiveness. The Atlanta chamber started a campaign called ChooseATL which promotes the city’s livability to millennials, born between 1981 and 2000, through digital marketing and social media like Instagram. Some marketing is targeted to those attending college graduations, said Kate Atwood, who heads the campaign. “Companies want to be where the talent is,” she said. “We need to be sure we have the young people to fill these jobs.” Kasia Galazka, 31, got hired in December for a marketing job in Atlanta by MailChimp, an email marketing company that started in 2001. Having moved from Omaha, Nebraska, she said she likes Atlanta’s “big city” feel, with lots of new restaurants, as well as low costs. “I huaren.used at the idea because this is a place I can see my career growing,” she said, and higher pay and better benefits will allow her to shop for a house. “You can actually own a home here. You are not hemorrhaging money just to live.”
讲这种话不是污蔑美国绝大部分地方都住着井底之蛙？以为住某些城市就比人多了啥人文p的，说得直接点，素质差的住哪都好不了。
说北卡湿热的那是没在香港深圳广州，江沪一带生活过吧，与这些地方比起来，北卡湿热简直毛毛雨。
要是跳出华人圈子来看，其实活动也不算贫乏了。比如说NCMA 是全美第一个由州政府支持的大型 museum, 规划设计展品都不算很差了。再比如，durham 其实常有音乐节，过两天就有 moogfest.
当然活动肯定比不上纽约波士顿之类的大城市多和丰富，这也是事实，但是各方面生活消费要亲民很多。40 万的房子没有 shutters，但至少 2000尺以上， sfh, 10 分学区，上班 commute 不超过20分钟。这要是都嫌贵，在纽约波士顿那还怎么过啊？
而且房价涨的快的就那么一个区间，过了60万的房子价格基本没怎么涨。west Cary 70万绝对能买到 custom design 的 sfh，4000尺以上，和美国其他地方比起来，价格算是相当亲民了。
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其实我一直不明白你们所谓的没有social没有life怎么定义的。我们没娃的，还每周都有朋友聚会，出门聚餐，短途hiking，电影。不就这些吗。还是你们所谓的social和life必须局限在中国人和中餐馆。。没有social和life难道不是因为自己无聊？那么多美国人搬到RTP,看看meetup上这个区域多少的group多少的活动。。没social没life难道不是自己的原因
玩的地方，附近3个小时到南北卡各种海滩。随你挑。
山里2-3小时很多去处。
华人群体不大不小，我觉得不错。
生活的乐子主要靠自己啊。没餐馆就自己做吧。好玩的用心总能发现。有爱好就日子不会贫乏。
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那里看到嫌40万的房子贵了？懒得说了， 个人有个人的活法。。这破地方有什么好说的
Cary，Apex的新建小区越来越多，当然40万左右的是一个档次，60万左右的又是另一个档次，均价80万刀的房子和社区那又是不同。买家人群也不同。
不过真不希望太多人搬来了，适可而止吧，现在RTP华人不多不少，挺好。
比芝加哥差很多啊！就连我之前住的中部大学城都有烤鱼烤羊肉串很正宗呢。rtp都没有
mm有啥好的中餐，菜推荐？我吃过的每家餐馆大概只有2，3个菜还行。大部分点了都失望:(
如果卖旧房，再买新房，用同一个agent能拿回多少？
说北卡没有social life的，我来列举几样：museum 不多，但也不是没有，杜克大学自己的就不错，时常还有些特殊展览况且四个小时到DC可以看个够；DPAC，Duke energy center performing art常年有show，百老汇的；和一些知名musician演出；Duke performance center常年小型concert；PNC arena露天的show和concert；还有些concert分散在不同的点我经常听老美朋友说，没太关注具体在哪；想看芭蕾有Carolina ballet；Sports有durham bulls，baseball，夏洛特有NBA，NFL，NHL，三角州三所大学NCAA都不错，尤其Duke和UNC，不是学生也不是弄不到票。American dance festival一年一度在durham汇集了世界各地的现代舞艺术家。因为天气好户外运动也适合，meet up很多组织。
现在年纪大了已经不太赶这些热闹了，这还仅仅是我知道的，美国人在这觉得文化生活也很丰富啊，虽然是不能跟几个大城市的资源比。老中们说来说去有几个真心热衷文化活动的，搞到最后还不是弄几个人打打牌BBQ😅
哈哈 最后一句同意....说北卡没social 所谓的social就是国人聚一起打麻将吗？
还有你说的什么看芭蕾什么的， 很好奇生活在大城市的国人有多少每周每个月带着孩子去enjoy这些的， 这些之中又有多少孩子真正enjoy看芭蕾听交响乐的.....？
老中不是美国人，in general当然对美国人那些东东不感兴趣，但你不能说老中不热衷文化活动。纽约这里随便来个港台的过气歌手搞演唱会，观众都爆满。
美国大城市没住过。但是国内每个月去国家大剧院看个芭蕾，音乐会什么的很多的。票也不贵。一家人穿戴整齐的家庭活动，顺便给小孩介绍各种，还挺好的。
过气港台歌手演唱会和大妈跳广场舞 哪个更有中国特色些？:) 没有高下之见，就是想起前两天的大妈跳广场舞的格调讨论，特有喜感
当然是广场舞啦，如此的乡土，应该是从东北大秧歌演变来的。而且制造噪音非常扰民，凸显了中国人不重视公共环境的小农意识。港台歌手们其实就是中国的pop singers，从西方传来的。
怎么个大法啊？ 真没见过经常去看芭蕾的就比不去的有多有见识了。。。。不都是孩子一样长大吗...最重要的是品性好，情商不错， 成绩不错，大方点， 就行了啊。
住过三年，劝你别期望太高了。春天的大量花粉，很差的中餐，典型美国南部大农村式的生活，都是确定无疑粉饰不了的。
2、没听说过listing agent能返现……
就回你的最后一句话。华人不搬去，烙印也会搬去的。不论在哪，如果是我宁可华人多点也不要烙印多。
真心不觉得boston算大城市。
关键看你喜不喜欢农村生活，如果喜欢的话，rtp是个不错的地方，有大农村的优势（房价、交通），同时因为有三个不错的大学，相比其他大农村，rtp还能有一点点城市的感觉（比如就业、医疗、教育）。但再怎么好，也还是农村，不可能完全拥有城市的优势。
另外，作为一个北方人，觉得这里夏天太湿热，蚊子太多，老公花粉过敏，春天比较难受。
气候+开车能到海边+一个舒适的房子（还要有足够的钱花），挺向往的。
by Steve Matthews
April 27, 2017, 9:00 PM PDT April 28, 2017, 8:45 AM PDT
Migration from U.S. north to south is highest in decade
Employment booms in Florida, Georgia and other ‘sand states’
Susan Gifford moved last August from Rome, New York, to Garden City, South Carolina, where she lives in a home two miles from the beach. “The weather was the motivating factor, getting away from winter,” the 67-year-old retired teacher said.
Almost 600,000 Americans moved from the Midwest and Northeast to the Sun Belt states last year, the most since 2005, according to Brookings Institution demographer William Frey. Migration is boosting growth along Southeast and Western coasts as well as Nevada and Arizona, reflecting a healthier national economy that has made it easier to re-locate.
Retirement centers Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and The Villages near Orlando were the fastest growing metro areas in the U.S. in the year ended July 1, while a flow of younger workers have led to employment booms in Florida, Georgia and Nevada, all growing at almost twice the rate of the nation.
“There’s been a renewed push of people moving to the Sun Belt,” said IHS Markit economist Karl Kuykendall. “The 2009 recession slowed it down because of the housing slump and severely hurt resident mobility. More people are back to moving south and west for better jobs, and there is retiree migration as well.”
Sun Belt migration fell by almost half between 2005 and 2010 as aging baby boomers delayed retirement in the wake of both plunging home prices and stocks, and the “sand states” suffered from record foreclosures. Moreover, fewer job opportunities in the wake of the most severe recession since the 1930s prompted fewer job-related moves.
“Think of the recession as freezing people in place -- now that is thawing,” said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer and public policy professor at the University of New Hampshire. “States with histories of slow growth due to large domestic migration losses -- which did better during the recession -- are starting to see less growth again.”
U.S. government data released Friday showed that residential investment increased at a 13.7 percent annualized pace in the first quarter, contributing 0.5 percentage point to economic growth, the most since the fourth quarter of 2012.
Florida added 207,155 people in 2016, or almost 600 people a day. By contrast, New York, Illinois and California each lost more than 100,000 people.
The Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce promotes tourism in about 50 travel and trade shows each year, and the visits now invite relocation as well, said Brad Dean, its president. Recent pitches were in Scranton, Pennsylvania, as well as Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio.
“We hear people say, ‘When I can sell this home I am moving down south,’” he said. “There is clearly a base of people ready to make a change. We are not surprised by this steady growth. Our message is always well received.”
Gifford said she had vacationed for years in South Carolina, and moved after selling her house in New York. She goes to the beach three or four days a week.
“It is sunny 75 percent of the time and the beaches are beautiful,” she said. “There are more things to do than in central New York. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.”
Mobility Still RestrainedMobility of Americans represents part of the nation’s dynamism, and low migration has concerned economists because it tends to hurt the labor market’s ability to function. Even with the Sun Belt pickup, overall interstate moves are half the level of 1990, according to the Population Reference Bureau in Washington.
Demographers say the pickup in the Southeast and West likely represents the start of a broader mobility.
“The uptick has to do with a return of the job and housing markets,” Frey said. “Now young adult millennials are starting to make their way to rapidly growing regions where employment is plentiful.”
In metro Atlanta, employment rose 3.9 percent in the year ended March, the largest increase on record, according to the Georgia Department of Labor. The February rise was the most among the largest U.S. cities. Jobs in Georgia and Florida both rose 3 percent.
“We seem to be in the midst of broad-based job creation,” said Thomas Cunningham, a former Atlanta Fed economist who now is chief economist for the Metro Atlanta Chamber of Commerce. Technology jobs in midtown are booming, he said. Labor force growth is “consistent with migration getting back to prerecession levels.”
For cities competing for skilled workers, luring migrants is key to competitiveness.
The Atlanta chamber started a campaign called ChooseATL which promotes the city’s livability to millennials, born between 1981 and 2000, through digital marketing and social media like Instagram. Some marketing is targeted to those attending college graduations, said Kate Atwood, who heads the campaign.
“Companies want to be where the talent is,” she said. “We need to be sure we have the young people to fill these jobs.”
Kasia Galazka, 31, got hired in December for a marketing job in Atlanta by MailChimp, an email marketing company that started in 2001. Having moved from Omaha, Nebraska, she said she likes Atlanta’s “big city” feel, with lots of new restaurants, as well as low costs.
“I jumped at the idea because this is a place I can see my career growing,” she said, and higher pay and better benefits will allow her to shop for a house. “You can actually own a home here. You are not hemorrhaging money just to live.”
大家能比较一下北卡和亚特兰大吗？教育，气候，工作，房子...
南部长大的孩子因为太懒散普遍缺乏竞争力，当然你可以不care。
地税很低。2.5小时开车真的不算什么，能去海边度个周末真的挺好的。觉得是很不错的地方。
我在北卡吃到过非常好吃的越南牛肉粉
我个人认为缺点是夏天太阳太足，我很怕晒。。再就是蚊虫比较多。还有回国没有直飞航线，不过据说也快有了。
要是有足够的钱，住在这种地方的市中心很爽啊，孩子读私立。无非是广大华人中产住不起城里罢了……
lime and basil?
能具体说说吗？这个夏天去美，还未定地方.
记得以前在Redmond，微软的某幢楼边上（好像是33号）有一家不错的pho，五块七一大碗吃得很爽；后来到了Chapel Hill吃这一家，味道依稀仿佛但是价格变成了七块五，也不知道最近涨价没有。
算不上特别出彩吧，无功无过罢了。