这有啥的,不就是外戚专权吗?美国历史短,觉得稀奇。在中国历史上,大多数专权的皇帝都是靠外戚或者宦官专权巩固权利的。 ggbreeze 发表于 4/8/2017 12:36:21 AM
先google一下three branches和checks and balances吧,这种体制下,除了奥巴马这种极力破坏美国立国之本的搅屎棍,出现什么宦官外戚专政根本是不可能的。我只是说kushner靠着总统女婿身份上位快我也没啥意见,可是他开始玩弄权术,铲除异己,把白宫变成自己的权力中心,绝对会得罪大多数人。川普如果任由他这样胡来,也会失去信用和威望。
先google一下three branches和checks and balances吧,这种体制下,除了奥巴马这种极力破坏美国立国之本的搅屎棍,出现什么宦官外戚专政根本是不可能的。我只是说kushner靠着总统女婿身份上位快我也没啥意见,可是他开始玩弄权术,铲除异己,把白宫变成自己的权力中心,绝对会得罪大多数人。川普如果任由他这样胡来,也会失去信用和威望。
信息量不少: (1)女婿要把岳父的移民政策往中间拉,遭到半农反对。 “(Bannon)he has argued that Mr. Kushner’s efforts to pull his father-in- law more to the center on issues like immigration would poison him with the conservative base — a hopeless position to be in because Mr. Bannon believes so few Democrats would ever consider supporting Mr. Trump.” (2)女婿和首席经济顾问cohn结盟,对抗半农和普里巴斯。川普的首席经济顾问库恩 ,居然是个民主党人。 “The president is said to be aware that a meaningful reconciliation will take work to achieve between Mr. Bannon, who sees himself as the keeper of Mr. Trump’s campaign promises, and the competing ideologies of Mr. Kushner and Mr. Cohn, a longtime Wall Street executive and a Democrat.” (3)女婿在白宫,确实让下面的人很难做人。36岁的嫩手怎能让老臣服从。老川有袒 护近亲之嫌。 “The admonition was aimed at Stephen K. Bannon, the tempestuous chief strategist, and Reince Priebus, the mild-mannered chief of staff, over a series of dust-ups with Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, and the top economic adviser, Gary D. Cohn.”
4) “travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平”。。。 travel ban 证明了 liberal judges will stop at nothing to push their ideals on us, including total disregard of the law!!!
5) “黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活”。。。 所以说, diversity would be the ultimate fall of this country! 你根本就不把自己当美国人。。 u r defining yourself by your skin color first and foremost... that's why this country would never come together like people did after great depression or WWII...
如果在中国, 那些非法的非洲人, 举着非洲国家的国旗, 在街上大喊, chinese are racists, 你会怎么想??! 如果外国人, 到了中国,说, 中国is not diverse enough, there are too many chinese in china, 你会怎么想??! 如果中国政府, 不take care 你的爸妈, 中国的老人, 而是花钱去take care 外国来的refugee, 你会怎么想??!!
4) “travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平”。。。 travel ban 证明了 liberal judges will stop at nothing to push their ideals on us, including total disregard of the law!!!
5) “黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活”。。。 所以说, diversity would be the ultimate fall of this country! 你根本就不把自己当美国人。。 u r defining yourself by your skin color first and foremost... that's why this country would never come together like people did after great depression or WWII...
如果在中国, 那些非法的非洲人, 举着非洲国家的国旗, 在街上大喊, chinese are racists, 你会怎么想??! 如果外国人, 到了中国,说, 中国is not diverse enough, there are too many chinese in china, 你会怎么想??! 如果中国政府, 不take care 你的爸妈, 中国的老人, 而是花钱去take care 外国来的refugee, 你会怎么想??!!
4) “travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平”。。。 travel ban 证明了 liberal judges will stop at nothing to push their ideals on us, including total disregard of the law!!!
5) “黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活”。。。 所以说, diversity would be the ultimate fall of this country! 你根本就不把自己当美国人。。 u r defining yourself by your skin color first and foremost... that's why this country would never come together like people did after great depression or WWII...
如果在中国, 那些非法的非洲人, 举着非洲国家的国旗, 在街上大喊, chinese are racists, 你会怎么想??! 如果外国人, 到了中国,说, 中国is not diverse enough, there are too many chinese in china, 你会怎么想??! 如果中国政府, 不take care 你的爸妈, 中国的老人, 而是花钱去take care 外国来的refugee, 你会怎么想??!!
你回来了?好好说话这不挺好的。让liberal看笑话:I can't believe people are debating #FireKushner or #FireBannon. They're both unqualified hired by someone who's unqualified. Fire them all.
你回来了?好好说话这不挺好的。让liberal看笑话:I can't believe people are debating #FireKushner or #FireBannon. They're both unqualified hired by someone who's unqualified. Fire them all.
Reality is complicated and ugly. If he removes Bannon completely, he is just some real estate tycoon from New York. It would have been a shame he ever said he represented the voice of the silent and the audience believed in him, very sad and demoralizing, but hope this will not happen. Again he is a great sales guy, no one questions about this part, whether he can deliver the products he promised to deliver, time tells, hope patience will get paid off.
lot of liberal hashtags were taken over by Trump supporters during the campaign, too..
anyways, it's just very disappointing as a rabid Trump believer, at this stage, i would be arguing against regime change in a secular Middle east country, rather than making fun of liberal tears...
i remember last november, after Trump won, i was talking to someone from Afghanistan in Dubai, discussing how America and CIA really turned Afghanistan from a really progressive secular country in the 60s into the hell hole today. and I was telling him that Trump is gonna be different, Trump is not into foreign govt intervention. I remember that during inauguration, when Trump basically said that he's not gonna force American ideals onto other countries, I literally cheered in front of my TV...
到目前为止他女婿做过什么坏事吗?叙利亚我是同意发导弹的,不觉得这个是坏事,这是最小代价敲山震虎的好事。不知道为什么Bannon要反对。移民我显然更同意bannon的主张。这俩不是个有千秋吗? luckyso 发表于 4/8/2017 2:05:58 AM
some people do argue that Trump knows the attack is a false flag, and his response was perfectly false as well, making biggest noise without causing any damage, getting the media off the Russia collusion theory as well..
it's still possible that they are right.. but it's just a bit too much matrix-y for me...
lot of liberal hashtags were taken over by Trump supporters during the campaign, too..
anyways, it's just very disappointing as a rabid Trump believer, at this stage, i would be arguing against regime change in a secular Middle east country, rather than making fun of liberal tears...
i remember last november, after Trump won, i was talking to someone from Afghanistan in Dubai, discussing how America and CIA really turned Afghanistan from a really progressive secular country in the 60s into the hell hole today. and I was telling him that Trump is gonna be different, Trump is not into foreign govt intervention. I remember that during inauguration, when Trump basically said that he's not gonna force American ideals onto other countries, I literally cheered in front of my TV...
beefcuurtain73 发表于 4/8/2017 2:07:26 AM
理解你的感受。川普并没有force American ideals onto other countries, 他的行动不过是个one off,告诉别人不要踩红线。和布什那种战争贩子有本质区别。难道像中国那样放任三胖就是好的?都失控了。美国不打算搞别人,也有别人准备搞美国,跃跃欲试的太多了,像奥巴一样继续放任,以后会陷入更大的麻烦,更被动,到时真要陷入战争泥团出不来。
some people do argue that Trump knows the attack is a false flag, and his response was perfectly false as well, making biggest noise without causing any damage, getting the media off the Russia collusion theory as well..
it's still possible that they are right.. but it's just a bit too much matrix-y for me...
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哈哈哈,我早就说川普没那么傻,川普就是需要我们给他压力,KUSHNER那照片大概就是有人故意放出去的。
“我们”?你是谁啊?你太抬举自己了吧。
你自己前脚刚说完半农是白人的基本盘偶像,后脚就把自己往里送。
问题在于,白人基本盘跟你有毛关系啊?
你还是没有正面回答:你的皮漂白了吗?
白人基本盘允许你入伙了吗?
死磕哒猫,你的皮漂白了吗?
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我觉得你也不用这么极端,现在的事实就是华人在美国政坛根本成为不了可以领导其他族裔的一致独立力量,那我们就要选择最不坏的那个,在我看来,白人当政和黑人墨西哥人相比对华人以及整个国家是最不坏的选择。而白人政党里选择共和党相较于民主党对华人和这个国家也是更不坏的选择
你放心吧,这个国家不可能是KUSHNER说了算的,那么多国会议员呢。你不要光在这里说,你要把你的话给你的议员,给白宫写信打电话,或者去那个TRENDING TWITTER #FireKushner,让川普感受到压力。
你连投票权都没有吧,当然只能看热闹了,没法参与。
可川大爷这个反智急先锋,根本就是个成事不足、败事有余之徒。
川粉们躺在他大选胜利这个馅饼中,以为从此天下太平盛世来临了。
殊不知,可不是次次都会砸馅饼的,要这样,古往今来就不会有那么多悲惨先例了。
闯王NB吧,打下了大明江山,结果咧?!
不管白人、黑人、墨西哥人、还是华人,做总统,首先得是个有脑子有自己世界观大局观的人。
川大爷有啥?MAGA?
美国的体制就是CHECKS AND BALANCES,就这么简单,就是要不断监督。
哈哈,川粉的要求其实真的好简单,不过嘛,等着真正到来的危机时刻吧。
哈哈哈,可惜你们又被打脸了,川普离不开BANNON。中国泡沫那是肯定破了
泡沫已经破了,否则土共用不着出台那么多楼市新政。
还在这里装傻,北京那么多大动作呢。
而对于死磕哒猫口口声声号称的白人基本盘,哈哈,这些算什么呀?!
尼玛!怎么硅谷还那么多亚裔CEO呢?怎么咱们白人还只能干蓝领的工作呢?!
医疗呢?
税改呢?
川大爷该怎么办呢?我看川大爷得憋个大招,要不白人基本盘不保可不是闹着玩的,你们川粉算个毛啊?
呵呵,你是CEO吗,后面你肯定会被打脸的。
哎呀,不套现也就是纸上富贵呀,中国房子租售比很低的。美国老工人那是要和中国的蓝领工人比啊。你知道吗,中国人很多很要面子的,有些人失业了,过得不滋润了也不和朋友说的
哎呀,川普之前还夸过奥巴呢,川普是做过媒体的,演演戏谁不会啊。你真以为美国的事情能女儿女婿就能说了算啊,川普本人都做不到的。
反共急先锋,死磕哒猫
一对绝配!哈哈!
其实你写这么多我没get到你的观点。我觉得现在老床三个月做的达到了我的预期,现在我比较关心的是到底那些大公司承诺的把工作拿回美国到底能不能兑现。虽然在川普上任之初就纷纷表态,但迄今为止我没看到这些大公司有任何实际上的投资操作,这些问题都需要选民给川普压力让他带领团队将口号变为现实。
白人基本盘和我们肯定观点利益都不一致,但我并不过分担心,班农的理念肯定有白人至上的私货,但他的政治观点能让美国这个国家国力强盛,我们也会受益,至于副产品歧视少数族群,还有民主党呢,这就是你说的美国选举左左右右的意义所在,现在我支持班农发挥他的力量是因为我认为他的理念能让美国国力大增最终国民的我们受益,等到他有一天做的过分了我们权益受到侵害我会选民主党上台
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一方面呢,华人反AA,反种族歧视。
另一方面呢,又在大喊,因为Kusher是犹太人,所以不能委以重任。
这思维听着像是猪党的逻辑啊?
KUSHNER是LIBERAL DEMOCRAT GLOBALIST,还拿了索罗斯的钱,这才是反对他的原因,。
你这话说的出自真心的话建议不要在关心政经方面的事了。要是因为身在美国不知道国内啥状况,随便看看隔壁的帖子就知道国内到底滋润不滋润了
国力强盛不是靠大法官、不是靠反AA反同厕、不是靠阻挡难民!
这些对于华人或许很关心。
但你既然和我谈国家国力层面,那决定一个国家的实力,靠的是这个国家的硬实力,能不能找到新的经济增长点,能不能推动人类的产能进步。
美国这百年来,能吸引那么多国家的移民,从精英到平民,来到美国,不是因为它的福利!很多SB川粉死活不明白这个道理。
从这个角度而言,共和党也好、民主党也好,都各有利弊。
但川大爷这种反智急先锋,MAGA喊得再响,实在是脑子里没东西,他能想出来的就是造墙这种主意。
半农一肚子的白人至上理念,奈何实战水平实在不堪,travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平。
没思想的川大爷,和半农搭在一起能干啥子好事?黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活。
因为恐惧穆斯林,所以就追捧一个白人至上主义者?
川粉们还真是出虎坑跳狼窝的节奏啊。
能说出不靠大法官这点,还有什么硬实力....你还是回炉重造别来丢人现眼了比较好
我觉得你提到的这些雷根本算不到川普和班农头上啊,美国现在国家硬实力世界第一并且在未来可预见五十年没有哪个国家有能力挑战这个地位,这你同意吧?那现在我们就关心经济好不好,我们的生活水准是否可以进一步提高,我们的生活是否不受高压锅威胁,我们是不是一定要当圣母给非移生孩子出医疗费。如果这些和我们切身相关的要求都得不到满足,我们时时担心自己会不会失业,出门买个菜被甩高压锅,自己身体不舒服都不敢看医生怕高额医疗费却要每月拿我们的税钱给非移生孩子付费,那美国国家硬实力全银河系第一对我们又有什么意义呢?
选川普支持班农就是为了解决现在近在眼前的问题,等这些问题解决了,满足我们基本生活需求,我们才有精力考虑人类何去何从引领全球人类科技再创辉煌这些高大上的目标,况且床铺班农也没有阻止美国找经济增长点推动人类产能进步啊(copy你的这几句话我笑了,真是很高大上啊)
你以为白宫就是皇宫吗?你知道国会,最高院跟白宫都是平起平坐的吗?三权分立听说过吗?即使kushner能在白宫建立权力中心,让大家反感老川,也不等于kushner就能专权了。白宫没有立法权力你知道吗?
为什么有那么些人根本不懂美国政治的最基本的构架,就只知道咬文嚼字和人身攻击。
----佩服这种水平还长篇大论的人。
大法官:美国根基,第九马戏团胡乱判案更显出其定海神针作用
AA: 南非发来贺电,债券已经降为垃圾级
难民:瑞典发来新鲜贺电,还有一些陈旧贺电不胜枚举
归根结底,再好的制度都要人来执行,如果人人都像主党一样狂引进垃圾人口,摒弃依法治国的根基,还别说强盛了,亡国都有可能
信息量不少:
(1)女婿要把岳父的移民政策往中间拉,遭到半农反对。
“(Bannon)he has argued that Mr. Kushner’s efforts to pull his father-in-
law more to
the center on issues like immigration would poison him with the conservative
base — a hopeless position to be in because Mr. Bannon believes so few
Democrats would ever consider supporting Mr. Trump.”
(2)女婿和首席经济顾问cohn结盟,对抗半农和普里巴斯。川普的首席经济顾问库恩
,居然是个民主党人。
“The president is said to be aware that a meaningful reconciliation will
take
work to achieve between Mr. Bannon, who sees himself as the keeper of Mr.
Trump’s campaign promises, and the competing ideologies of Mr. Kushner and
Mr. Cohn, a longtime Wall Street executive and a Democrat.”
(3)女婿在白宫,确实让下面的人很难做人。36岁的嫩手怎能让老臣服从。老川有袒
护近亲之嫌。
“The admonition was aimed at Stephen K. Bannon, the tempestuous
chief strategist, and Reince Priebus, the mild-mannered chief of staff, over
a series of dust-ups with Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and
senior adviser, and the top economic adviser, Gary D. Cohn.”
其实我根本就没搞明白她喷的点在哪里,一会儿骂川普说得都没干,这才上来三个月啊,一会儿又骂床铺干了都是个屁,保守大法官任命都是屁那民主当国会霸台子十几个小时最后共和党不得不核动力强行多票通过干嘛啊?一会儿又骂床铺不推动美国寻找新的经济增长点推动人类产能了,床铺犯不上阻碍吧?难道这就是传说中的为了骂所以骂?
我的看法很现实,能做多少做多少,再怎么样也比民主党上强一万倍。况且现在做的其实进度相当不错。
我建议你还是CNN少看看!
1) Bannon 白人至上???!!! 你他们的连白人至上, 和美国至上, 都搞不清楚, 请你滚一边去。 你去看看Bannon 在CPAC的发言, 每一句都是要defend american culture。
2) 你这种basic liberal bitch, 估计连culture和race的区别都不知道, 请你滚一边去
http://madworldnews.com/minnesota-somali-immigrants/
你看看这种东西, 是你要的culture么??!
3) “美国这百年来,能吸引那么多国家的移民,从精英到平民,来到美国,不是因为它的福利”。 可能40, 50年前, 你这话正确。 但现在根本就不正确了。。。 你觉得以前那些在ellis island 登陆美国后, 马上就能有food stamp, free housing,allowance吗?!
4) “travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平”。。。 travel ban 证明了 liberal judges will stop at nothing to push their ideals on us, including total disregard of the law!!!
5) “黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活”。。。 所以说, diversity would be the ultimate fall of this country! 你根本就不把自己当美国人。。 u r defining yourself by your skin color first and foremost... that's why this country would never come together like people did after great depression or WWII...
如果在中国, 那些非法的非洲人, 举着非洲国家的国旗, 在街上大喊, chinese are racists, 你会怎么想??! 如果外国人, 到了中国,说, 中国is not diverse enough, there are too many chinese in china, 你会怎么想??! 如果中国政府, 不take care 你的爸妈, 中国的老人, 而是花钱去take care 外国来的refugee, 你会怎么想??!!
归根到底, 像你这种人, 可以在美国生活了很多年, 但是你根本就不把自己当作美国人! 你自己永远都把自己当作外国人。。。
"国力强盛不是靠大法官、不是靠反AA反同厕、不是靠阻挡难民!
这些对于华人或许很关心。
但你既然和我谈国家国力层面,那决定一个国家的实力,靠的是这个国家的硬实力,能不能找到新的经济增长点,能不能推动人类的产能进步。
美国这百年来,能吸引那么多国家的移民,从精英到平民,来到美国,不是因为它的福利!很多SB川粉死活不明白这个道理。
从这个角度而言,共和党也好、民主党也好,都各有利弊。
但川大爷这种反智急先锋,MAGA喊得再响,实在是脑子里没东西,他能想出来的就是造墙这种主意。
半农一肚子的白人至上理念,奈何实战水平实在不堪,travel ban就实实在在证明了他的水平。
没思想的川大爷,和半农搭在一起能干啥子好事?黄皮川粉还一个个对半农爱戴的要死要活。
因为恐惧穆斯林,所以就追捧一个白人至上主义者?
川粉们还真是出虎坑跳狼窝的节奏啊。"
buzhidao2000 发表于 4/8/2017 1:01:08 AM
你不是今天被版主刚刚疯过嘛?
半农根本不是什么白人至上,不过是想把美国定性为白人文化为主流的国家。如果你想
中国为主流文化的国家就去中国,想白人为主导的国家就去美国。你要好黑人那口,你
就去非洲,保持文化的多样性,才是符合人性的,为什么非要把美国搞得人不人鬼不鬼
的。文化主流根本不必分种族,和种族主义根本无关。
那个ID脑子就是不好使,你看她的ID就是 不知道,什么都不知道啊。
矛盾公开不是坏事,川普支持者才能知道怎么回事,最近川普有些做法让支持者很不理解。
无所谓的,LIBERAL从开始就没停过,拿出来公开说说很好的,不然等女婿偷偷做了更多坏事就更麻烦。
Reality is complicated and ugly. If he removes Bannon completely, he is just some real estate tycoon from New York. It would have been a shame he ever said he represented the voice of the silent and the audience believed in him, very sad and demoralizing, but hope this will not happen. Again he is a great sales guy, no one questions about this part, whether he can deliver the products he promised to deliver, time tells, hope patience will get paid off.
anyways, it's just very disappointing as a rabid Trump believer, at this stage, i would be arguing against regime change in a secular Middle east country, rather than making fun of liberal tears...
i remember last november, after Trump won, i was talking to someone from Afghanistan in Dubai, discussing how America and CIA really turned Afghanistan from a really progressive secular country in the 60s into the hell hole today. and I was telling him that Trump is gonna be different, Trump is not into foreign govt intervention. I remember that during inauguration, when Trump basically said that he's not gonna force American ideals onto other countries, I literally cheered in front of my TV...
你没仔细看吗,现在是公开出来了,以前都是背地里干,他拉拢那帮人就是一帮民主党,在川普内阁里面安插人,这种危害是非常大的啊,就和奥巴那帮人一个样,你怎么就看不明白呢,他要不是女婿的身份,川普不会那么听的。
it's still possible that they are right.. but it's just a bit too much matrix-y for me...
除了白宫里的人事,我是问有什么有损害的policy出来吗?一个人本来就不可能只听一种声音,听了他们的意见未必执行,还有另一派的声音,一边倒是最差的局面。川普的性格你还不了解吗?他是别人能轻易左右的人吗?
你真是让人急啊,之前不是BANNON在主导吗,如果BANNON被踢走,你以为以前那些好的POLICY还会那么坚定的执行吗,看看TIMING 好吗。
女婿把川普的基本盘都得罪了。
这次叙利亚就是Bannon反对的,而你我都同意的。Bannon我很欣赏,但他是人不是神。
总统是老川,说现在的政策是Bannon的,不如说是老川的,都是他一直以来反复说的,他的nationalist主张,trade policy, 反非移,难道是认识班农后有的? 你应该给川普更多的credit, 对他有更多的信心。
这点考虑肯定有啦,不用猜。你没看左媒都不说Russia了吗?开始炒作内斗煽风点火添油加醋了,可别上当
连ID都叫不知道
☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.11.08
可能是NIH或者新能源的,喜欢扣反智的帽子,还什么要推动全人类生产力进步。。。其实是屁股决定脑袋,为黑而黑
当然女婿绝对需要打压一下,一个高参而已,还做到前排去了。脑子也是烧了。
这个观点我基本同意。一家独大不是好事,最好都知道自己几斤几两,知道谁是boss