http://fortune.com/2017/01/24/china-leader-global-economy/?xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_FORTUNE A top Chinese diplomat has said that China is ready to lead the world economy if other nations should retreat from globalization. Zhang Jun, the Chinese foreign ministry's head of international economic affairs, told foreign reporters in Beijing that "if it’s necessary for China to play the role of leader, then China must take on this responsibility," reports the Wall Street Journal. Zhang's comments come just days after President Donald Trump pledged to put "America first" in his inaugural address, which followed Chinese President Xi Jinping's plea for the continuation of global trade at last week's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "If people want to say China has taken a position of leadership, it’s not because China suddenly thrust itself forward as a leader," Zhang told the reporters. "It's because the original front-runners suddenly fell back and pushed China to the front." In addition to Trump's protectionism, British Prime Minister Theresa May recentlygave a speech detailing how her government intends to take the U.K. out of the European Union and the EU's Single Market. For more about China, watch this video:
Throughout his campaign, Trump hasattacked companies who have moved operations abroad, and vowed to bring jobs and manufacturing back to the U.S. He has threatened to impose trade tariffs on Chinese imports, raising the potential of a U.S. trade war with China. On Monday, Trump signed an executive order that withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact with Asia-Pacific countries, and signaled that he plans to review the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with its other signatories, Canada and Mexico. In Beijing, Zhang told reporters at the briefing that China would continue to pursue its own Asia-Pacific regional free trade deal independent of the TPP, reports the Journal. He also touted the country's trillion-dollar One Belt, One Road trade initiative, which would connect China with countries along the ancient Silk Road trade route.
http://fortune.com/2017/01/24/china-leader-global-economy/?xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_FORTUNE A top Chinese diplomat has said that China is ready to lead the world economy if other nations should retreat from globalization. Zhang Jun, the Chinese foreign ministry's head of international economic affairs, told foreign reporters in Beijing that "if it’s necessary for China to play the role of leader, then China must take on this responsibility," reports the Wall Street Journal. Zhang's comments come just days after President Donald Trump pledged to put "America first" in his inaugural address, which followed Chinese President Xi Jinping's plea for the continuation of global trade at last week's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "If people want to say China has taken a position of leadership, it’s not because China suddenly thrust itself forward as a leader," Zhang told the reporters. "It's because the original front-runners suddenly fell back and pushed China to the front." In addition to Trump's protectionism, British Prime Minister Theresa May recentlygave a speech detailing how her government intends to take the U.K. out of the European Union and the EU's Single Market. For more about China, watch this video:
Throughout his campaign, Trump hasattacked companies who have moved operations abroad, and vowed to bring jobs and manufacturing back to the U.S. He has threatened to impose trade tariffs on Chinese imports, raising the potential of a U.S. trade war with China. On Monday, Trump signed an executive order that withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact with Asia-Pacific countries, and signaled that he plans to review the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with its other signatories, Canada and Mexico. In Beijing, Zhang told reporters at the briefing that China would continue to pursue its own Asia-Pacific regional free trade deal independent of the TPP, reports the Journal. He also touted the country's trillion-dollar One Belt, One Road trade initiative, which would connect China with countries along the ancient Silk Road trade route.
http://fortune.com/2017/01/24/china-leader-global-economy/?xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_FORTUNE A top Chinese diplomat has said that China is ready to lead the world economy if other nations should retreat from globalization. Zhang Jun, the Chinese foreign ministry's head of international economic affairs, told foreign reporters in Beijing that "if it’s necessary for China to play the role of leader, then China must take on this responsibility," reports the Wall Street Journal. Zhang's comments come just days after President Donald Trump pledged to put "America first" in his inaugural address, which followed Chinese President Xi Jinping's plea for the continuation of global trade at last week's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "If people want to say China has taken a position of leadership, it’s not because China suddenly thrust itself forward as a leader," Zhang told the reporters. "It's because the original front-runners suddenly fell back and pushed China to the front." In addition to Trump's protectionism, British Prime Minister Theresa May recentlygave a speech detailing how her government intends to take the U.K. out of the European Union and the EU's Single Market. For more about China, watch this video:
Throughout his campaign, Trump hasattacked companies who have moved operations abroad, and vowed to bring jobs and manufacturing back to the U.S. He has threatened to impose trade tariffs on Chinese imports, raising the potential of a U.S. trade war with China. On Monday, Trump signed an executive order that withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact with Asia-Pacific countries, and signaled that he plans to review the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with its other signatories, Canada and Mexico. In Beijing, Zhang told reporters at the briefing that China would continue to pursue its own Asia-Pacific regional free trade deal independent of the TPP, reports the Journal. He also touted the country's trillion-dollar One Belt, One Road trade initiative, which would connect China with countries along the ancient Silk Road trade route.
Though I don't hate China at all and I don't care who rules there either. Rather, I hope people do well and be happy there. Whether I think China's economy will be good or not is different.
第一段就说的不对。日本当年的发展速度比中国更快。中国这几年发展速度仅次于日本。
所以要扯什么东西方文明定位 早就跟日本完过了
不仅仅是美国资本家发了大财，中国资本家更是发了横财，所以谁也没亏，都很好哈。
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以现在的房价增长速度，人力每年增长百分之十都是保守的好不好。
中国最大的问题是房价绑架了经济，甚至是绑架了政治。
政治上的腐败简直了，例如，南京是新换的高层，贪污腐败简直更胜一筹，去年南京卖了1千个多亿的地，高层和房地产老板们过了一个大肥年。
指望人工下降，比指望房价下降还没盼头，
而且政治当局是不乐意见到房价太高， 但是当地官员不卖地没钱赚。
要看哪个势头大过一方，
中国的经济就是政治互搏。
现在美国退出TPP， 对中国就是重大的利好， 中国经济的走向还真难短期说呢。
那个说当政的也不希望高房价是不对的，当政的就是不敢杀房价，这关系到国家的稳定，维稳是重中之重。
是的，我也这么觉得。二战后人口空前大爆炸，稳定时期已经到头了，接下来就是围绕各种主题的斗争。
希上台会直接打开潘多拉盒子，川老头上台能缓缓。
http://fortune.com/2017/01/24/china-leader-global-economy/?xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_FORTUNE
A top Chinese diplomat has said that China is ready to lead the world economy if other nations should retreat from globalization. Zhang Jun, the Chinese foreign ministry's head of international economic affairs, told foreign reporters in Beijing that "if it’s necessary for China to play the role of leader, then China must take on this responsibility," reports the Wall Street Journal. Zhang's comments come just days after President Donald Trump pledged to put "America first" in his inaugural address, which followed Chinese President Xi Jinping's plea for the continuation of global trade at last week's World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "If people want to say China has taken a position of leadership, it’s not because China suddenly thrust itself forward as a leader," Zhang told the reporters. "It's because the original front-runners suddenly fell back and pushed China to the front." In addition to Trump's protectionism, British Prime Minister Theresa May recentlygave a speech detailing how her government intends to take the U.K. out of the European Union and the EU's Single Market. For more about China, watch this video:
Throughout his campaign, Trump hasattacked companies who have moved operations abroad, and vowed to bring jobs and manufacturing back to the U.S. He has threatened to impose trade tariffs on Chinese imports, raising the potential of a U.S. trade war with China. On Monday, Trump signed an executive order that withdrew the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact with Asia-Pacific countries, and signaled that he plans to review the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with its other signatories, Canada and Mexico. In Beijing, Zhang told reporters at the briefing that China would continue to pursue its own Asia-Pacific regional free trade deal independent of the TPP, reports the Journal. He also touted the country's trillion-dollar One Belt, One Road trade initiative, which would connect China with countries along the ancient Silk Road trade route.
这是给中国政府一个机会和鼓励发展实业， 逐步占领并引导市场。 美国占全球人数～5％但是占全球产量～25％， 自产自销？
全局来看，保守主义可能是破解目前英美经济问题的可行方式，当然要看执政党的能力。也不能说出现是完全偶然的。这个时候要求全球化是对中国有利的，所以中国会继续。
你就别在这里忽悠了，你这个希拉拉粉脑子根本就不好使，你根本就没看懂川普要干什么。TPP圈子必须要有一个最大的贸易逆差国作为买家，那就是美国，其它TPP国都想占美国便宜，这下美国说退出，都傻眼了。商务部长ROSS听证会上说了，美国是最大的市场，生产者必须尊重顾客，这是我们最大的优势，什么贸易战美国根本就不怕。中国是个贸易顺差国，根本没法像美国一样对TPP成员国开放市场，根本撑不起TPP。而且TPP留了很多漏洞可以钻，举例来说TPP允许50%的汽车零件可以在非TPP成员国生产但是享受TPP的好处，对美国就是一个赔本买卖。而且TPP给土共留了很多时间，川普不给你时间的，直接对打。
控制好了是增长率稳步下滑。低端制造业挤出或破产一大批是肯定的。这时候有魄力早动转型的，几年后会过得很好。每次危机中都蕴含着机会。
土共是个无神论，很多事情它根本看不懂。
美国退出TPP还有后续专门针对土共的政策，这都是一整套的政策。TPP是绕弯围堵中国，时间拖太长，而且美国要让利给TPP其它成员国，美国非常吃亏。所以川普要来最最直接的，所以你看到川普说45%关税针对中国。
http://wallstreetcn.com/node/286858
美国人口占5%， 消费力和购买力可不是5%。非洲人口占17%，消费力能占17%吗？ 这又不成比例
供应美国市场这部分美国产就已经能让美国人过得很好了，因为美国是全球第一大市场。美国对外出口才占GDP多少，出口中国市场的就占比更少了。你们希拉拉粉输了，所以奥巴马稀拉拉利益集团就必须让利了懂吗。多去看看川普团队的人都说了什么吧，别整天看NYT,CNN这种垃圾媒体。
土共的话基本上都要反着听，土共爱面子，说谎，谁信谁傻。
问题是美国的利益优先，话好听，但美国内部的利益本身好多也是不可协调互相对立的啊。
是非常错误的，土共低估了美国，土共之前几年的策略和布局都没考虑到川普会上台，没考虑到美国国家战略能够彻底转向，土共实际上根本不了解美国人，那帮官都是共产党体制下的教育系统教育出来的，所以根本不行。
川普能上台就说明美国内部的一些利益集团已经败下来了，我说了很多次，你别看表面，川普背后势力其实很大的，军方，情报部门，宗教势力，传统行业，国内的中小企业等等。不是你表面上看的那么简单。川普只要能够把持军队和情报部门，反对他也没用。
民主党这次败部分原因也是因为得罪了军方，情报部门等等川普背后的势力。
只还能把持住。。。
那和斯大林，毛泽东，共产党，纳粹希特勒什么区别啊？
物极必反，美国很多人认为奥巴马就是MUSLIM MARXIST，去看看奥巴马的成长过程中的老师，Saul Alinsky，Frank Marshall Davis，他是受共产党影响很深的，共产党均贫富是要花别人的钱，这些年民主党那套就是把中产的钱分给穷人。 川普是美国人民利益优先，鼓励人工作。
工作机会回来，难道不要付出代价的吗？成本高了，如何竞争
如果你没有仔细爬过楼，看过我说的所有话呢，就别再问了，这个问题我前面已经回答了。
觉得这一段不够客观。资本是逐利的, 过去十几年很多企业在全球的投资中, 在中国的收益最好, 这可以从很多公司的对外公告和发言体现出来。
随着我国制造业成本的不断攀升, 在中国制造不再那么有利可图, 所以近几年(大约从2012年左右开始), 工厂开始大量往东南亚迁(越南, 泰国, 印度, 等等), 甚至还有迁去非洲的。
中国因为内部市场广阔, 再加制造业涉猎广泛, 各种产品都哟生产, 所以真的被外界制裁的话, 一时会艰难, 但很快会形成新的平衡。"美国不忍"的前景并不那么可怕。
举个例子来说明: 中国2016年全年钢铁出口总量368亿吨(可能没记准确, 但不超过400亿吨), 而同年总进口量1300多亿吨。各国常叫嚣中国钢材倾销, 如果中国钢厂将去产能的压力化为提升技术的动力, 向生产汽车, 船用, 油气管道等高端钢材冲刺, 仅内部这个市场就潜力无限。失去中国这个最大市场, 印度欧洲那些钢材大厂才是雪上加霜。
我爬楼了，你的最大assumption 就是美国是最大市场，可以自产自销，自产自销也许是对的，可是经济利益能不能提高，就不一定了，很多美国企业profit 来源主要是在外国市场。
你这个我已经回答了，你仔细爬楼，美国公司老板赚钱不等于美国普通人赚钱，美国普通人因为工作外移而失业，这么简单的事情，你们为什么总是看不明白这一点，还是故意装的。
老板赚不到钱，pie 就更小了，普通人更难分到. Trump 的办法，短期也许会看着很effective, 长期绝对出大问题
根本不是你想的那样，川普是要扶持美国本土的中小企业，美国大部分就业其实都是中小企业提供的，而不是跨国公司。中小企业被迫忍耐非常高的35%公司税率，而跨国企业在逃税。
川普的政策下，本土企业可以提供更多的就业，足够了。
这个解释ms有点道理，继续观察
美国对中国一年几千亿的贸易逆差，这个打平，美国就等于少赔几千亿，美国即使用这个钱去补贴农民都还是赚的
你这话说得，土共坐天下这么久，害怕啥？ 土共没你想的那么弱
呵呵，土共高层都在海外藏好财产，都做这种准备的啦。
45%的关税还会加吗。不是说可以谈的吗。可能马云跟川普见面有点成效
是在谈，这是最坏的情况，见面说明不了任何问题，川普和稀拉拉，奥巴马撕那么厉害，见面也看着好好的。
美国情报部门的中下层很多都是支持川普的，个别的头支持稀拉拉又能怎样，根本已经压不住了
奥巴马还老说什么美国制定贸易规则，你倒是想，但你这么软，没人会听你的。奥巴还玩BLM反警察，把警察也得罪了。
印了那么多钱，怎么回收，只能靠推高房价回收，而且房价高了，地价才能涨，政府才能靠地发财。
现在国内的锁价钱，地价不能超过多少钱，大家都举牌了就摇号，摇号作假不要太简单，想摇谁家就是谁家呀，政府官员直接发了横财，国内就腐败到这个程度了，想想吧，还经济，还政治，现在就是腐败治国，过一天算一天。
你以为他是把台湾当成价码来谈？你太不了解美国了。
台湾就是一个谈判筹码，你真当trump cares about Taiwan's democracy?? 台湾还真把自己当根葱
他说过很多前后矛盾的。比如意识形态方面，一方面说我们美国在这方面和中共没什么好谈的，，本质上就是对立的，谈都是浪费时间，一方面又说我们不强加自己的给别人。。。我们shine什么的。
到底哪个算数啊。
没错！台湾民选政府，是美国的天然盟友。政治经济军事上台湾都是中国的死穴，川普很直接地点穴。台湾独立，有美国撑腰，中共敢打吗？打了就是灭国。
看看川普和俄国日本韩国台湾的交往，就是四面围堵中国。这次土共没得玩了
你根本就不懂政治，别在这里丢人现眼了。多看看猫神以前的帖子，讲得很清楚。台湾是可以信赖的，不是筹码，就是用来打击中国的。
台湾就不要蹦跶了，土共完蛋不完蛋，台湾都是要收复的。period.
美国的经济也会触动政治吧，现在政治和经济分不开的，哪个国家都是。
不过川普我觉得有什么鱼效应，会有积极的一面。美国的整体经济需要某种震动性改变。
中国的经济就是靠政治撑起来的，是从全世界吸血。现在川普就是要让他们吐出来。
土共没这胆子也没这能耐。台湾是民选的，背后是美国。
你们很多人在看问题的时候还是把自己当作一个中国人来看问题，没有从美国利益出发，你不觉得土共是威胁，美国爱国人士认为，包括中资收购好莱坞都认为是一种对美国的侵略。这次川普团队一大特点就是爱国主义。
中共显然是意识的有问题的，所以高官的都把家人送海外。。唉
13个摇摆州川普赢了10个，所以美国这次肯定要转向。
对立就是敌对啊。。你不搞我我搞你啊。
光shine，有什么用。。
美国指挥的民选还少了？就是一个筹码，还真觉得美国是亲爹了呢
和这个还没有太大关系，我窃以为。
川普现在正在做的就是改写贸易规则，不是同一个政治制度的会区别对待。对英国和对中国的贸易政策会截然不同。你怎么没看懂呢。