I don't agree on the main point in your article. You cannot use philosophy to ask people to argue with the most graceful manner. Not everyone is Hilary Clinton, is he/she? :-) For the time being, COMPROMISE is not (will never be) the solution to the social problems in the US. Obviously, if Hilary wan, the demographic structure would change dramatically, which could never be reversed. Asian, especially the Chinese, would have gone invisible and unheard. I assume that your intention was good but seriously at this moment, we don't have the luxury to pay attention to people's manner when they argue. So I recommend that people speak up with critical thinking and fight for their ground. Forget about the manner.
I watched a movie called "Bad Moms" a few days ago. There is a conversation between a mom and a daughter.
Background: The daughter made into the soccer team at her school.
Daughter: Oh my god, I made the team. I made the team.
Mom: Oh my god, I am so relieved. Oh baby, I am so proud of you.
Daughter: This is gonna to look so awesome on my college applications.
Mom: Baby baby, it's great. It's great. But just remember you are 12...
Daughter: So wait, what if I don't play. What if I am a loser benchwarmer scrub?
Mom: You're great. You're gonna be fine.
Daughter: No, it's not fine. Mom! Do you understand how hard it is to an ivy league school now? I mean, they turn away Asians.
All of the Chinese parents don't want their kids to be denied by an ivy league school when the kids intellectually deserve it. I would give an F word to those Chinese parents who vote for Hilary. They don't think about their next generation.
I don't agree on the main point in your article. You cannot use philosophy to ask people to argue with the most graceful manner. Not everyone is Hilary Clinton, is he/she? :-) For the time being, COMPROMISE is not (will never be) the solution to the social problems in the US. Obviously, if Hilary wan, the demographic structure would change dramatically, which could never be reversed. Asian, especially the Chinese, would have gone invisible and unheard. I assume that your intention was good but seriously at this moment, we don't have the luxury to pay attention to people's manner when they argue. So I recommend that people speak up with critical thinking and fight for their ground. Forget about the manner.
I watched a movie called "Bad Moms" a few days ago. There is a conversation between a mom and a daughter.
Background: The daughter made into the soccer team at her school.
Daughter: Oh my god, I made the team. I made the team.
Mom: Oh my god, I am so relieved. Oh baby, I am so proud of you.
Daughter: This is gonna to look so awesome on my college applications.
Mom: Baby baby, it's great. It's great. But just remember you are 12...
Daughter: So wait, what if I don't play. What if I am a loser benchwarmer scrub?
Mom: You're great. You're gonna be fine.
Daughter: No, it's not fine. Mom! Do you understand how hard it is to an ivy league school now? I mean, they turn away Asians.
All of the Chinese parents don't want their kids to be denied by an ivy league school when the kids intellectually deserve it. I would give an F word to those Chinese parents who vote for Hilary. They don't think about their next generation.
了唯一可接受的选择。
如果曲线救国者在某些时候都有合理性，何况各个候选人的支持者呢？所以大可不必谩骂诅咒，徒增笑柄。
接下来说正题。本次选举所集中显示的问题，总的来说是围绕对华人在美国的地位进行斗争的。大多数人都认为华人努力上进，就应该获得相应的资源和回报。鉴于华人是最为努力的族群之一，也就是华人应该获取最高的资源。
从这个角度来看，aa对华人是极为不公平的，限制了华人对资源的获取，不符合他们付出努力劳动后对所得的期望。
藤校需要培养的是各行业的精英领导者。如果按照努力程度和成果录取，那么势必有大量超过人口比例的华人被录取。问题在于，很多人不愿意被这些优秀的华人带领前进。显然本族裔之间才是最能相互接受的，而跨族裔领导力不是华人的长处。藤校不能接受这个结果。如果培养附和人口比例的精英领导者才是藤校认为的公平，那aa也就呼之欲出了。
双方都认为自己有理。逻辑上看也成立。所以我们要解决这个问题，应该回到哲学的本源考察这两个看法。我们发现最基本的矛盾冲突就是如何看待公平。
公平一次自古有之。但我认为它是没有绝对意义的。在不同时代不同环境下，有着自己的意义。早在人类诞生之前，非洲草原上的羚羊，不论多么努力，也只能堪堪逃过被狮子吃掉，永远不能一口咬下狮子肉。
人类社会文明的发展，把公平推到了一个全新的高度。但是，你有没有想过，为什么会诞生这个体系？因为这对社会中绝大多数人有利，才会最终被以制度的形式确立下来，而不是根据动物的本性去处理个体间的关系。你再强壮也不能去抢小孩的东西，不然就有更暴力的组织来治你。这是绝大多数人支持的。
再回过头来看aa，看华人在美国社会的地位。整个社会中的大多数人并不认同 华人依靠努力就应该获得如此多的社会资源。虽然不是黑人靠暴力就能入藤校一样的让人难以接受，但也不被主流民众看好。所以才会有两位候选人都不反对aa。只是迈的步子大小不同，有很多可能。但差别是五十步笑百步。不解决社会对华人贡献的认可度问题，华人会永远像祥林嫂一般念叨：讨厌，aa又通过了！
以上是我的随笔，信手写来，抛砖引玉，探讨请进，喷子绕道，谢谢。
各种aa内在的逻辑关系是一样的。不必要每个都说一遍。
不论你追求的公平是什么，你要理解你的敌人是谁。指责所有不支持自己的人是愚蠢的。
http://www.columbia.edu/content/seven-myths-about-affirmative-action-universities.html
这是其中一段
赤裸裸的就是妥协论 假借哲学的幌子
你说话很有攻击性。我不需要幌子，我想说啥就说啥，你有看法可以分享，只会攻击分享者才是赤裸裸的小人行为。
妥协才是社会存在的依托和基础。没有妥协等同于没有规矩。现在的问题是，社会妥协点为什么对华人不利，或者说华人认为对自己不利。
我想其中重要一点就是华人中的一批无法理性思考，只要看法不一致，就要开始阴阳怪气的职责。并不是从你的答复得到的结论。只是感谢你佐证我的观点。
I don't agree on the main point in your article. You cannot use philosophy to ask people to argue with the most graceful manner. Not everyone is Hilary Clinton, is he/she? :-)
For the time being, COMPROMISE is not (will never be) the solution to the social problems in the US. Obviously, if Hilary wan, the demographic structure would change dramatically, which could never be reversed.
Asian, especially the Chinese, would have gone invisible and unheard. I assume that your intention was good but seriously at this moment, we don't have the luxury to pay attention to people's manner when they argue. So I recommend that people speak up with critical thinking and fight for their ground. Forget about the manner.
I watched a movie called "Bad Moms" a few days ago. There is a conversation between a mom and a daughter.
Background: The daughter made into the soccer team at her school.
Daughter: Oh my god, I made the team. I made the team.
Mom: Oh my god, I am so relieved. Oh baby, I am so proud of you.
Daughter: This is gonna to look so awesome on my college applications.
Mom: Baby baby, it's great. It's great. But just remember you are 12...
Daughter: So wait, what if I don't play. What if I am a loser benchwarmer scrub?
Mom: You're great. You're gonna be fine.
Daughter: No, it's not fine. Mom! Do you understand how hard it is to an ivy league school now? I mean, they turn away Asians.
Mom: Ah, that's a little racist...
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All of the Chinese parents don't want their kids to be denied by an ivy league school when the kids intellectually deserve it. I would give an F word to those Chinese parents who vote for Hilary. They don't think about their next generation.
有本事先在NBA实现AA再来这里唧唧歪歪。
可以，但是要知道策略方法。不然以华人的少数，是保护不了自己的利益的。不会发现所有的选择都伤害你的利益。现在已经有这样的苗头了，两个候选人都支持aa。不觉得应该反省一下了吗？
同意，坐收余利的都是本身经济条件就好的非墨
问题是民主党并不满意你的妥协，还要细分，要把你逼到死胡同，有些华人还在替他们喊公平!!!!
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所有亚裔只有联合起来才能有真正的影响力，否则散沙一盘，没人会维护你的利益的。秦灭六国的历史不知道吗？