LZ说得有道理，National Asian American Survey，Chinese (不仅仅是Asian) Americans里 估计跟这里的人群有很大区别，福利党啊，龙虾党啊，也有不少华人吧。大部分人都是看跟自己习性相关的利益。另外就是有的无脑跟着媒体走，有的无脑跟着网络公知走，五花八门，说不清楚。
认真地说吧，华人网这种中文网上传的信息都是假的或是华人自己演绎的多。民主党并不对华人有威胁，歧视华人并少数族裔的是共和党。各种演绎都很偏见，我在这里就不多说了，感觉我是少数。根据最新National Asian American Survey，Chinese (不仅仅是Asian) Americans里，支持民主党和希拉里的占70%。这个只是很多数据中的一个，其它来源也支持这个数据。那么为什么在华人网里得不到这样的印象呢？这个我也思考过，只能说这里混的都是比较selective的Chinese Americans, 在整个Chinese American voters里只有很少一部分。
再简单说说为什么高职华人会支持民主党。因为如果你赞同live and let live，帮助弱势群体，女人有选择权，等等各种人权，那么你的三观会和民主党吻合。所以支持民主党的不单是底层亚裔，而且是高层亚裔。华人网这里么，只能说是中层亚裔。这个跟薪水无关，跟精神方面认知层次有关。
爱说我是圣母的人就说吧，爱谁谁。
beaniebunny 发表于 10/22/2016 12:28:52 PM
我只想说你要帮助弱势群体没人拦着你去donate去 volunteer. 如果你是因为这个选择民主党，只能说明你希望 强迫别人去 donate or 强迫别人比你 donate 更多。。。
好吧，共和党人，我帮你找了一个比较完整的list of hillary's activities，你来辨一辨吧。1. Benghazi: Committing Perjury or Lying Under Oath Hillary has repeatedly committed perjury or lied under oath throughout her career. One of the most telling examples was during her Benghazi testimony when she claimed a video had inspired a protest that ended up killing Ambassador Stevens and 3 other Americans. This was subsequently
shown to be a lie
. Hillary famously declared, “What difference does it make?” when the questioning got too tough, in regards to the causes of the American deaths and personnel she was supposedly in charge of protecting. She stated she had submitted all documents, but 20 months later, FOIA requests uncovered 41 new documents. Yet another lie. 2. Faking Uncontrollable Fits of Coughing Check out this compilation of clips where
Hillary pretends she can’t stop coughing
in order to avoid answering tough questions or testify on an issue at all. On the Benghazi issue, Clinton testified 4 months late to Congress. 3. Email Gate: Illegally Mixing Government and Personal Emails In the latest scandal over emails, dubbed Email Gate by some, Clinton set up a homebrew server to hold official Government property in terms of classified information. She also used her official Government work email to conduct private and personal business. 4. Email Gate: Endangering National Security and State Secrets Another aspect of Email Gate was the reckless endangering of Governmental secrets Clinton engaged in. Although many readers of The Freedom Articles will be all too aware of the way Government abuses the concept of national security, the fact remains that there is some need for it. Numerous officials have stated there is no doubt – zero ambiguity – that her emails endangered national security, due to the fact many were classified SAP (Special Access Program). However, she may have been doing this deliberately (see point 6). [p=18, null, left]Hillary and 30,000 deleted emails. Image credit: Youngcons.com[/p] 5. Email Gate: Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence Email Gate has many aspects to it. A further aspect is Hillary’s deliberate withholding (and deleting) of around 30,000 emails. Her excuse was that these were the personal, private ones, yet Congress had asked to see them all. Given what we know of Hillary as a cover up agent extraordinaire, what are the chances that she wasn’t deleting them to destroy information? It remains to be seen what will come of the deletion, since the FBI is reported to have the server and flash drives (with all the emails) in its possession. 6. Selling State Secrets to Foreign Countries Mike Rivero (WhatReallyHappened.com) puts forth impressive evidence that Hillary has deliberately sold US Government State secrets to foreign countries. She and Bill did this with China during Bill’s presidency. Hillary may also have intentionally set up her homebrew server with weak security that could easily be hacked, so that the hackers could get the information and Hillary could claim the problem was “weak or flawed security” rather than a deliberately set up situation to leak data. 7. Bill the Rapist, Hillary the Coverup Agent As I covered in the article Billary Clinton: Rapist and Coverup Team Par Excellence, Hillary has been covering up for Bill’s violent sexual escapades and rape for decades, threatening his female victims into silence, sometimes with death threats. Some of them have been outright killed. 8. Failed Stint as Secretary of State 2009-2013 A State Department spokesperson could not point to a single tangible achievement by Clinton. Hillary wasted $80 million on an Afghan US consulate. She lost $6 billion due to improper filing of contracts. She refused to classify Boko Haram as a terrorist group, leading to the kidnapping of 300 school girls. She called off internal investigations into her State Department involving the endemic engagement of prostitutes by her security, drug use by State Department contractors and the US Ambassador to Belgium soliciting male child prostitutes. 9. A Giant Whopper: Pretending to be Under Fire in Bosnia Hillary claimed she was under attack by snipers when she landed in Tuzla,
Bosnia
, 1996, but subsequent CBS footage showed her walking calmly along the tarmac there and even stopping to greet a young girl. Liar, liar, pants on fire. 10. Flip-Flopping: NAFTA This
video
(also embedded above) shows how Hillary has flip-flopped on the issue of NAFTA, saying to some people that she favored it (“NAFTA has proven its worth”) while saying to others she opposed it (“I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning”). Anything to get elected! 11. More Lies: Gun or No Gun? In the same video, Hillary claimed her grandfather taught her to shoot, yet later on, claimed she grew up in a house without any guns. Which is it? 12. More Lies: Bringing Peace to Northern Ireland? Hillary claimed she brought Protestants and Catholics together in a Town Hall meeting for the first time. However, as this
video
states, “negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday agreement in 1998 told the Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the grueling political talks over the years.” 13. Flip-Flopping: Marriage Equality Hillary has variously claimed that she opposes gay marriage and supports gay marriage at different times. It’s all about opportunism and pandering to a political base. 14. Hillary during Watergate Investigations: An “Unethical, Dishonest Lawyer” Bill Clinton was asked to serve on the special staff to handle the Nixon impeachment inquiry. He declined and suggested they hire his girlfriend Hillary Rodham instead. As Mike Rivero writes:
[p=18, null, left]What will it take for the American people to not elect Hillary?[/p] 15. Blood Gate: Selling AIDS-Infected Blood When Bill Clinton became Governor of Arkansas, he awarded a fat contract to a Little Rock company called Health Management Associates (HMA). The company was paid $3 million a year for “medical services” for the state’s prison system. The game was to pay prisoners for their blood ($7 per pint) then resell it at massive profits on the international plasma market ($50 a pint). HMA’s entry into the blood market coincided with the rise of AIDS in America, but HMA did not screen the prisoners’ blood, even after the FDA issued special alerts about the higher incidents of AIDS and hepatitis in prison populations. In Canada alone, more than 7,000 people died from contaminated blood transfusions, many of them hemophiliacs. More than 4,000 of them died of AIDS. In 1986, public outrage forced the cancellation of HMA’s contract. 16. Whitewater Scandal The Whitewater Scandal involved Bill using the power of office of Governor of Arkansas to build public roads to the Clintons’ private land. The Clintons and McDougals made money with real estate contracts for Whitewater property that included harsh clauses. This resulted in elderly buyers defaulting on land payments and repossessions. The habit of using State power to personally enrich themselves is a very common theme running through the Clintons’ careers. Hillary was the first woman ever subpoenaed by a Grand Jury in relation to Whitewater. Pervasive conflicts of interest were discovered between Rose Law Firm (Hillary) and Madison Guaranty (McDougal). Billing records disappeared (presumed stolen) from Vince Foster’s office the night he died. They reappeared in the Clinton residence following their acquittal, covered with Hillary’s fingerprints. Susan McDougal refused to testify against the Clintons, so went to prison, but was pardoned by President Bill. 15 Clinton friends were found guilty of 40 federal crimes. This cost US taxpayers around $145 million. 17. Cattle Gate: Insider Trading – Hillary’s Magical Trade Hillary invested $1000 and turned it into $100,000 through insider trading. She entered and exited the market at the exact right time. According to economists at Auburn and Nth Florida University, 1995, who concluded in their study in the Journal of Economics and Statistics, the probability of Hillary’s trade being genuine and not an insider trade was 1 in 250,000,000! The broker involved was given a 3 year suspension. The trade was connected to Tyson Foods, the largest employer in Arkansas and a big Clinton donor. 18. Eliminating Drug Testing at the White House In an effort, no doubt, to avoid embarrassment over Bill’s cocaine-snorting habits, the Clintons eliminated random drug testing at the White House through the appointment Patsy Thomasson. 19. File Gate: The Clintons’ Enemy List The Clinton Administration improperly requested and received FBI background reports on 900 Republican officials in 1996. These FBI files contained sensitive information on average American citizens. It turned into a “Compilations of Enemies” list. Hillary was the source of the requests. The NYT called Hillary a “congenital liar”. Congressman Bob Barr commented:
“Clearly what the Clinton Administration is trying to do is an orchestrated systematic effort to thwart justice, to thwart the rule of law, to thwart legitimate investigations by the Congress, whether it is impeachment proceedings or regular oversight … to derail investigations (and) derail prosecutions.”
20. China Gate: The China Connection Bill Clinton and Al Gore took money from rich Chinese donors who ran prostitution rings. Again in 1996, agents of the Chinese Government and military funneled money into the Clinton re-election campaign, Clinton Legal Defense Fund and Democratic National Committee, in violation of US law. 21. Prison Population Explosion under Bill The total prison population increased by 673,000 people under Clinton’s tenure or by 235,000 more than it did under President Ronald Reagan, according to a study by the Justice Policy Institute. 22. Supporting Human Rights Abuse in Colombia The Clintons also have ties to human rights abuses in Colombia. 23. Clinton Foundation Corruption The Clintons have used their foundation as a vehicle to accept foreign money to fund Hillary’s presidential campaign – which is illegal. You can read more here about the incredible corruption of the Clinton Foundation. The New York Times referred to the organization as having “moral and fiscal chaos, shameless fundraising” and being “mired in conflicts of interest”. Hillary travelled to Moscow and pressured Russia to buy jets from Boeing. Then, 2 months later, contract in hand, Boeing donated $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Foreign donations to the Foundation increased by 70% when Hillary ran in 2008. 24. Destroying and Profiting Off Haiti Bill and Hillary have made money off Haiti too. Their Clinton Foundation took in billions, yet Haiti is still devastated. As this Washington Post article states:
““(The people here) think he’s (Bill’s) here making money,” said Leslie Voltaire, a former government official who worked with Clinton on post-earthquake reconstruction. “There is a lot of resentment about Clinton here. People have not seen results. . . . They say that Clinton used Haiti.””
25. Accepting Bribes Gifts from Foreign Nations Hillary Clinton plays the politics game – you want influence, you pay her and Bill. Look at all the lavish gifts she has received – gold necklaces from Saudi Arabia worth $500,000, plus other gifts from 3 other nations in the Middle East. 26. Hillary’s Doesn’t Care About Women This leads us to the next point – how does Hillary expect to convince women voters she cares about women, while she accepts gifts from nations like Saudi Arabia, with horrendous abuses against women? 27. Soul For Sale to the Highest Bidder: Hillary’s Massive Bribes “Speaking Fees” from Big NWO Banks Hillary Clinton is the bankers’ candidate, hands down. While Bernie Sanders, a man of principle, has refused money from the banks, Hillary has dollars galore from the big banks. According to the Daily Wire, the Clintons have made more than $160 MILLION in speaking fees since Bill left the White House. That’s effectively bribery – as thanks for previous gifts and as thanks for things to come. Listen to Hillary’s absurd explanation of why she deserves $250,000 for a single speech to Goldman Sachs. Wake up America! At the time of writing, 4 of her top 5 donors were Big Banks:
Corporation
Total
Individuals
PACs
Citigroup Inc
$824,402
$816,402
$8,000
Goldman Sachs
$760,740
$750,740
$10,000
DLA Piper
$700,530
$673,530
$27,000
JPMorgan Chase & Co
$696,456
$693,456
$3,000
Morgan Stanley
$636,564
$631,564
$5,000
28. Witches’ Covens Former Clinton Larry Nichols has attested to how Hillary would use taxpayer Government money, when Bill was Governor of Arkansas, to fly out to California to attend a monthly witch’s coven in California. In and of itself, that is not necessarily bad, but given the elite obsession with Satanism and black magic, and the propensity of the elite to engage in dark rituals inside of secret societies like the Bohemian Club, this is another red flag if you’re wanting to elect Hillary. Years ago David Icke pointed out that Hillary was higher up than Bill in the Illuminati hierarchy. If this is true, perhaps Hillary’s activities as a witch are related to this … 29. Zionist Stooge: Israel First Like almost every US politician who aspires to become President, Hillary has gone on the record praising Israel’s virtues to the Heavens. Her main backer is arch-Zionist Haim Saban. You can read more about how she puts Israel first here. 30. Puppet: Taking Orders from the CFR Hillary admitted on video that she takes orders from the Rockefeller CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), one of the key Round Table groups running the New World Order. 31. Cold-Heartedness: Laughing at How Gaddafi was Assassinated Look at the way
Hillary laughed in delight at how the US murdered Gaddafi
, who had elevated Libya to the highest standard of living among all the African nations. This was an outright assassination and murder of a sovereign foreign leader, yet Hillary cackled “We came, we saw, he died”. 32. Warmongering: Workin’ Real Hard to Start a War with Iran Look at Hillary cackling again
at the thought of starting war with Iran
. 33. Hillary Care Bill put Hillary in charge of healthcare. Hillary admitted at the time, “I’m not an expert on healthcare.” She kept the Presidential Task Force on National Health Care Reform shrouded in secrecy. Hillary Care was rejected by many. It cost taxpayers $32 million. Hillary and others were ultimately fined $450,000, and the court costs to US taxpayers was $725,000. 34. Travel Gate When Bill came to power in 1993, the Clintons fired the White House Travel Office, which had served 7 presidents. Their installed their wealthy Hollywood friends to take over the travel business worth $31 million annually. Hillary was at the center of 5 investigations (DOJ, FBI, GOA, Oversight Committee, Whitewater Independent Counsel) for these actions. She claimed the firings were due to employee misconduct, but the employees were cleared of all charges. The Clintons were forced to reinstate all of them. 35. Clinton Legal Defense Fund The Clintons have been in so much legal trouble for their crimes over the years that they established a Clinton Legal Defense Fund. The point was that individuals or companies hoping to garner favor with the Clintons could help pay the Clinton’s endless legal bills. 36. IRS abuses The Clintons used the IRS to harass enemies (just as Obama did later) including Republicans, the White House Travel Office, the NRA, Judicial Watch, the Heritage Foundation and other conservative organizations. A senior IRS official admitted that Clinton opponents were singled out for audits. Also audited were Bill Clinton’s female accusers (i.e. mostly rape victims) including Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick and Elizabeth Ward Gracen. [p=18, null, left]Do not elect Hillary, unless you want more tyranny. Love those eyes! Medusa herself couldn’t do a better death stare …[/p] 37. Pardon Gate Just before leaving office, Bill Clinton pardoned 450 people for crimes ranging from kidnapping to terrorism to cocaine smuggling. Several pardons personally benefited Hillary Clinton and were investigated for direct ties to her NY senate bid. One person on this list was Marc Rich, a billionaire fugitive. His ex-wife Denise Rich funneled millions into Clinton funds. Former President Carter called this list “shameless” and “disgraceful”. Hillary was intimately with many of these presidential pardons. She met with “New Square Four”, a Jewish group who had defrauded the Government of millions, and got their votes in exchange for pardons. Two criminals (Carlos Vignali and Almon Braswell) paid Hillary’s brother Hugh Rodham high fees to obtain the pardons. She also met with FALN (Fuerzas Armadas de Liberation Nacional, or in English “Armed Forces of National Liberation”), a group that exploded bombs in NYC and Chicago. Hillary also cut a deal with them to get votes for pardons. Congress requested additional information on all this, but Bill claimed Executive Privilege, preventing anyone involved from testifying. 38. State-Reared Children: Hillary’s Book It Takes a Village Did you know Hillary has called for the State to rear children? Hillary’s 1996 book, It Takes a Village generated poor sales, perhaps because it called for Government to replace parents in the raising of children. That’s not socialism, that’s communism, but regardless of the “ism” you use to describe it, it’s a leaf straight out of the eugenics book. Alders Huxley warned in Brave New World of the NWO plan to have State hatcheries where the Government strictly controlled reproduction. It can also be found in various key conspiracy documents. 39. Reporting Violation: 2000 Hillary New York Senate Election Campaign This was the largest election fraud in US history. In July 2000, Hillary was
recorded calling and thanking felon Peter Paul
for organizing a gala event. She said it cost $500,000 instead of $1.5 million. Hillary was fined $50,000 for intentional under-reporting. 40. Broken Ethical Code: Hillary’s New York Senate Term Hillary helped secure millions in federal assistance for a New York developer who donated $120,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Hillary was investigated by the Senate Select Committee on Ethics, and was found to have broke the Senate Code of Conduct. What a surprise! 41. Fraud: 2008 Hillary Presidential Election Campaign More fraud. Jeffrey Thompson and other fundraising “bundlers” for Hillary pled guilty to conspiracy and campaign fund law violations. 42. More Illegal Funding: Donor Victor Pinchuk Victor Pinchuk, reportedly the 4th richest man in Ukraine, channeled money through the Clinton Foundation ($8.3 million) and in doing so violated US law by overriding sanctions on Iran. Hillary, head of the State Department at the time, the branch of the Government responsible for enforcing these sanctions,
refused to charge Pinchuk
, who coincidentally happened to promise the Clinton Foundation millions more. 43. Using Mind Controlled Sex Slaves? Cathy O’Brien, Rape Victim of Hillary Cathy O’Brien, a former mind control victim who suffered horrific SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse), was programmed her to become a sex slave. Her book Trance-Formation of America details what she underwent. She explicitly mentions being abused and repeatedly raped by many high-ranking politicians including George Bush Sr., Dick Cheney, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. 44. Serial Murder: The Clinton Body Count The Clinton body count is a very long one, stretching back decades to their days in Arkansas. It is full of suicides, car accidents, plane crashes, explosions, people dying of gun shot wounds to the back of the head and people dying from falling out of high apartment buildings. Since the overwhelming majority were officially ruled as suicide, the Clintons enjoy plausible deniability, which the elite regularly use as a legal shield behind which to hide their horrendous crimes. Here is what Gary Aldrich, who worked in the White House as a FBI agent, had to say about it:
“My name would be mud, my FBI career would be over, and I might even be in danger, if the stories coming from Little Rock were true – about how so many enemies of the Clintons ended up having fatal accidents.”
让我吃惊的另一方面是，华人网上对不同政见者的攻击，我在美国生活的一大原因是因为这个国家允许多元化的思想，选总统，可以从利益出发，也可以以理念为据，如果让华人上川粉当权的话，恐怕下台党派群众万劫不复，这样的非黑即白，非对即错的思想让我想起星战电影里的一句话，only a Sith deals in absolutes。 再过两周就见分晓。
cloudymind 发表于 10/22/2016 1:04:00 PM
This is so profound. 所以我一直说华人网站延续了土共的独裁和对不同政见者的迫害。
我真是服了，我跟你说版上已经有很多实际证据，让你自己去读读想想，你说你不看证据；现在你又要我找证据。你的逻辑到底在哪里？
大姐，我不是你爹妈，还要饭端到你嘴边喂你你才肯吃对吗？你不看证据，不了解事实，不是盲从是什么？你的思考到底在哪里？
看了，我回帖以后想起来，你说的可能是克林顿基金，不是直接竞选，看了你的链接，知道了我会错意了。
另外顺便一句，这个可是被你们樱花雪同学定义为左派媒体的哦，你相信么？我是相信的。
这楼里的川粉直接承认华人网站封杀一切不利于 trump 选举的言论。你那些所谓的证据从这么一个 biased 的网站上出来，已经丧失中立性了。
你以为人家包容了木木黑黑默默就一定包容你老中了？恰恰相反，社会资源是有限的，为了照顾木木黑黑默默，必须从没有话语权，人傻钱多的老中身上开刀。
你既然喜欢说逻辑，我就罗嗦一下，你立论的根本就是你相信的那些东西（比如版上你说的“证据”）是事实，所以才能当证据。明白咱俩分歧在哪儿了么。
去中东看看吧。看看穆斯林是如何包容的。
叙利亚和伊朗原来都是开明国家，现在一个被炸成什么样了，一个被穆斯林拖回来中世纪。
看看伦敦穆斯林市长不许地铁里放比基尼广告，看看德国科隆妇女被攻击。
新泽西学校不同意在穆斯林节日放假。穆斯林包头女大叫，我们将来是大多数！有人要求春节和犹太节日放假吗？
避免美国绿化是当务之急，其它都可以放下。
建制派铁定要厚颜无耻，贪赃枉法地把希拉里推上台的。如果说早期的美国还有比较像样的民主，如今的美国和中国历史上每一个王朝的后期差不多（历史果然是明鉴），美国现在只有一个政党，那就是建制派，连布什都公开出来支持希拉里了，更有意思的是Ryan Paul也做好了这届你做东，下届我做东的交易，不惜出卖共和党人自己推举出来的候选人。今年的选举是具有划时代意义的选举，也会是一场极其艰难的选举。
事实难道不是媒体集体针对川普？
华人为何不能有自己的立场 何况 你不还是在这里码字骂人吗？
好吧 随便你了 既然你要这样乱咬 我也不必再跟你说理了 屏蔽啦
版主用无脑这个词骂和你政见不同者，太过分了吧。如果是希粉用这词，你早就封 id 了吧。建议你，把你的 id 改成 "一切希粉格杀勿论" 比较合适
宪法给予公民的权利受到了侵犯，你以为可以安慰了事？好有意思的思维。
川粉真会装。真以为公民权利被侵犯搞 voter fraud，别人就拿你没办法了？想不想让希拉里阵营知道你们在搞这个？
以为我是好心安慰你 你怎么这样反咬一口？说事实就是皮厚？ 你才皮厚
事实难道不是媒体集体针对川普？
华人为何不能有自己的立场 何况 你不还是在这里码字骂人吗？
好吧 随便你了 既然你要这样乱咬 我也不必再跟你说理了 屏蔽啦
满版的“犯罪证据”……同学，光有激情是不够的。
我问的是竞选，问了以后就意识到那位同学说的可能是基金会，果然也确实是基金会，就这么一点差别，后果非常不一样。简单的说就是法律的空子。
希拉里的狡诈就在于没有实打实的证据过硬到导致她一定会被起诉，版上的那些“证据”，也就是部分川粉抱着不放罢了。
这就是胡说了。我的贴子里那么多骂我的 id，一个都没封。版主可是没有给出任何理由。明显的 voter fraud.
这 id 骂人，版主处理不处理？不会是川粉就不管了吧。
我看你是想上电视。
还好那时还年轻 以这个经历看清人性贪婪 靠圣母心是感化不了的 只有靠法律 靠人自己的道德和三观约束 都不能指望
又一个骂人的。版主管不管？
这叫骂人？看你狗急跳墙气急败坏的样子真好笑！ you make my day
言论自由，和平表述。
我就是支持trump， 请问你刚才威胁我说你和你的希拉里团队要对支持 trump的人做什么？
骂人的，删贴不删贴？我上次一个人都没骂，可是既封 id 又删贴的。
你如果认为我威胁恐吓你，可以去报警。
那就请你让警察去调查有无任何犯罪事实。警察说不定会理你哦。
所以你也承认现在没有受到任何威胁。版主去了哪里，这人满嘴脏话，为什么不封？
真没那个力气，你说希拉里暗杀了多少人，怎么驳你？不是她暗杀的，是我派人杀的？只有人死了是事实，和希拉里有关是事实，但是说希拉里暗杀的只能是推测。你希望我驳什么。
希拉里派人用死人身份去投票，怎么驳你？不是她派的，是我派的？版上连一个有名有姓的造假的人都说不出来，okeefe的调查，确定只有DNC给钱，收钱的人去川普集会闹事。bob creamer从头到尾没说一句他派人去用假身份证投票的。你希望我驳什么
其他的我就不举例了。
版上把没有定论的事情当事实宣布出来的还少么？我昨晚还看见个标题说奥巴马丈母娘拿佣金其实不是最开始的版本。
你们贴的那些，大部分都没有坐实，真有坐实的，你以为美国司法能完全无动于衷？如果希拉里真那么大能耐，川普输定了，更没什么好驳的。最后加一句，我不支持希拉里，我是共和党。咱俩没有讨论的必要了。
我告诉她的团队以后，她采取的行动不受我控制。你直接去问她吧。
第一贴还是呼吁大家不要吵架 后来发帖也是摆事实讲道理
但遇到胡搅蛮缠断章取义甚至骂人的多了 要保持冷静 确实很考验修为
什么马甲不马甲的？这楼里至少两个人骂人，你不封骂人的 id 么？请告知原因。
没种报警就没办法了。
你今天就在这里骂了人了。版主对你很好啊，骂人既不删贴也不封 id。
你也有今天，哈哈哈哈。开玩笑啦，你也感觉到了是不是。所以有时候打字一不留神，就忘了加定语，一概说川粉了，其实我是想说部分部分部分。保持不发脾气还有一点就是，看到川粉，不要自我带入，其实很多时候，说的是那些狂热的粉丝。
和支持民主党的儿女没有共同语言，就说明自身有缺点？真有逻辑。这么说直接从二十多的年轻人里面选个总统好了，反正只有他们代表新思想。
最看不得这些自以为精英的，自己道听途说没有判断力还敢大放厥词。
说支持希拉里的多无所谓
说支持希拉里就是对的就滑稽了
08年支持08的也是多数
说支持08是对的那些现在有没有脸打肿了？ ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
我只想说你要帮助弱势群体没人拦着你去donate去 volunteer. 如果你是因为这个选择民主党，只能说明你希望 强迫别人去 donate or 强迫别人比你 donate 更多。。。
我其实倒是不一定支持希拉里。纯粹看不起好多川粉骨子里对独裁对压制言论自由的鼓吹和亲身实践。
那么川普对希粉采取行动了么？
幸亏可以屏蔽 以后不敢惹这种明显就是狂热状态的对方立场的粉丝了 连安抚都不行
我说了八百遍，我不喜欢疯狂的川粉了吧。我一说川普不好，就上来围攻，各种帽子都扣过。相关帖子我表达一下对川粉的鄙视很难理解么？
共和党议员出来批评川普的多了，我一个小选民，不喜欢川普，在论坛批评他，不是最基本的言论自由么？你看不顺眼，就到处骂人狗急跳墙，还有什么想骂的是不是碍于版规憋的很难受啊。
那就支持。我有什么所谓。是不是我的支持希拉里能让你获得特殊的荣誉？
楼上的我认识你，你现在还拿的h1b吧，在办绿卡的路上吗？更不要说公民了。你有选举权吗？废话说了一大堆，美国要是衰落了你拍拍屁股跑回中国找个一个月几千块的工作。苦了在美国有永久居留权的绿卡持有者和美国公民。
上下嘴皮一碰说什么都容易。
根据你们的版本，支持 trump 的人至少有５０％。你的意思是希拉里要对全国一半人下毒手？
哈哈，其实我还在申请政治庇护，是不是觉得你自己特聪明。
我没和他打过交道。我倒是知道华人网站非常支持川粉对非川粉的谩骂非常讨厌言论自由。。可想而知老川也不是什么好人。
5. Email Gate: Obstruction of Justice, Destruction of Evidence Email Gate has many aspects to it. A further aspect is Hillary’s deliberate withholding (and deleting) of around 30,000 emails. Her excuse was that these were the personal, private ones, yet Congress had asked to see them all. Given what we know of Hillary as a cover up agent extraordinaire, what are the chances that she wasn’t deleting them to destroy information? It remains to be seen what will come of the deletion, since the FBI is reported to have the server and flash drives (with all the emails) in its possession. 6. Selling State Secrets to Foreign Countries Mike Rivero (WhatReallyHappened.com) puts forth impressive evidence that Hillary has deliberately sold US Government State secrets to foreign countries. She and Bill did this with China during Bill’s presidency. Hillary may also have intentionally set up her homebrew server with weak security that could easily be hacked, so that the hackers could get the information and Hillary could claim the problem was “weak or flawed security” rather than a deliberately set up situation to leak data. 7. Bill the Rapist, Hillary the Coverup Agent As I covered in the article Billary Clinton: Rapist and Coverup Team Par Excellence, Hillary has been covering up for Bill’s violent sexual escapades and rape for decades, threatening his female victims into silence, sometimes with death threats. Some of them have been outright killed.
15. Blood Gate: Selling AIDS-Infected Blood When Bill Clinton became Governor of Arkansas, he awarded a fat contract to a Little Rock company called Health Management Associates (HMA). The company was paid $3 million a year for “medical services” for the state’s prison system. The game was to pay prisoners for their blood ($7 per pint) then resell it at massive profits on the international plasma market ($50 a pint). HMA’s entry into the blood market coincided with the rise of AIDS in America, but HMA did not screen the prisoners’ blood, even after the FDA issued special alerts about the higher incidents of AIDS and hepatitis in prison populations. In Canada alone, more than 7,000 people died from contaminated blood transfusions, many of them hemophiliacs. More than 4,000 of them died of AIDS. In 1986, public outrage forced the cancellation of HMA’s contract. 16. Whitewater Scandal The Whitewater Scandal involved Bill using the power of office of Governor of Arkansas to build public roads to the Clintons’ private land. The Clintons and McDougals made money with real estate contracts for Whitewater property that included harsh clauses. This resulted in elderly buyers defaulting on land payments and repossessions. The habit of using State power to personally enrich themselves is a very common theme running through the Clintons’ careers. Hillary was the first woman ever subpoenaed by a Grand Jury in relation to Whitewater. Pervasive conflicts of interest were discovered between Rose Law Firm (Hillary) and Madison Guaranty (McDougal). Billing records disappeared (presumed stolen) from Vince Foster’s office the night he died. They reappeared in the Clinton residence following their acquittal, covered with Hillary’s fingerprints. Susan McDougal refused to testify against the Clintons, so went to prison, but was pardoned by President Bill. 15 Clinton friends were found guilty of 40 federal crimes. This cost US taxpayers around $145 million.
37. Pardon Gate Just before leaving office, Bill Clinton pardoned 450 people for crimes ranging from kidnapping to terrorism to cocaine smuggling. Several pardons personally benefited Hillary Clinton and were investigated for direct ties to her NY senate bid. One person on this list was Marc Rich, a billionaire fugitive. His ex-wife Denise Rich funneled millions into Clinton funds. Former President Carter called this list “shameless” and “disgraceful”. Hillary was intimately with many of these presidential pardons. She met with “New Square Four”, a Jewish group who had defrauded the Government of millions, and got their votes in exchange for pardons. Two criminals (Carlos Vignali and Almon Braswell) paid Hillary’s brother Hugh Rodham high fees to obtain the pardons. She also met with FALN (Fuerzas Armadas de Liberation Nacional, or in English “Armed Forces of National Liberation”), a group that exploded bombs in NYC and Chicago. Hillary also cut a deal with them to get votes for pardons. Congress requested additional information on all this, but Bill claimed Executive Privilege, preventing anyone involved from testifying. 38. State-Reared Children: Hillary’s Book It Takes a Village Did you know Hillary has called for the State to rear children? Hillary’s 1996 book, It Takes a Village generated poor sales, perhaps because it called for Government to replace parents in the raising of children. That’s not socialism, that’s communism, but regardless of the “ism” you use to describe it, it’s a leaf straight out of the eugenics book. Alders Huxley warned in Brave New World of the NWO plan to have State hatcheries where the Government strictly controlled reproduction. It can also be found in various key conspiracy documents. 39. Reporting Violation: 2000 Hillary New York Senate Election Campaign This was the largest election fraud in US history. In July 2000, Hillary was
光记录有什么用啊。你要是觉得希拉里要对你对别的川普支持者下手，我可以肯定的告诉你，你可以报警了。要是你不报警，那你和川普就有猫腻了。
入籍的时候说了参与选举是公民行使民主权利,可以选择支持任何candidate, 怎么到你这要被汇报给希大人,要被采取行动?
这种人你还指望她能支持华人？
你也知道有50% 支持trump的 请问你告诉希拉里团队目的是什么？
是的是的，你是受过高等教育的。所以你直接就破口大骂了。版主很喜欢你骂人呢。
不过她可不敢屏蔽我，她可是心心念念要找点别人迫害她的证据好报警呢。
那啥,行政执法歪哥不是在这吗?你问问他不就得了。
再过两周就见分晓。
This is so profound. 所以我一直说华人网站延续了土共的独裁和对不同政见者的迫害。
其实本来也不是经常关注华人大选贴，我不算政治狂热分子，大选贴这么多天了，我就是断断续续跟进了一点。只能说确实看某些川粉看不下去。你说的也对，确实带不来什么，没有啥建设性的意义。大约是我对共和党选了这么一个候选人很不爽吧。