Warren started her academic career as a lecturer at Rutgers School of Law–Newark (1977–78). She moved to the University of Houston Law Center (1978–83), where she became Associate Dean for Academic Affairs in 1980, and obtained tenure in 1981. She taught at the University of Texas School of Law as visiting associate professor in 1981, and returned as a full professor two years later (staying 1983–87). In addition, she was a visiting professor at the University of Michigan (1985) and research associate at the Population Research Center of the University of Texas at Austin (1983–87).[35] Early in her career, Warren became a proponent of on-the-ground research based on studying how people actually respond to laws in the real world. Her work analyzing court records, and interviewing judges, lawyers, and debtors, established her as a rising star in the field of bankruptcy law.[36]
Warren joined the University of Pennsylvania Law School as a full professor in 1987 and obtained an endowed chair in 1990 (becoming William A Schnader Professor of Commercial Law). She taught for a year at Harvard Law School in 1992 as Robert Braucher Visiting Professor of Commercial Law. In 1995, Warren left Penn to become Leo Gottlieb Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.[35] As of 2011, she was the only tenured law professor at Harvard who had attended law school at an American public university.[36] At Harvard, Warren became one of the most highly cited law professors in the United States. Although she had published in many fields, her expertise was in bankruptcy. In the field of bankruptcy and commercial law, only Douglas Baird of Chicago, Alan Schwartz of Yale, and Bob Scott of Columbia have citation rates comparable to that of Warren.[37]
“[Elizabeth Warren] checked the box. She had an opportunity, actually, to make a decision throughout her career. When she applied to Penn and Harvard, she checked the box claiming she was Native American, and, you know, clearly she’s not.” — Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) during televised debate with Democratic opponent Elizabeth Warren, Sept. 20, 2012
“[Elizabeth Warren] checked the box. She had an opportunity, actually, to make a decision throughout her career. When she applied to Penn and Harvard, she checked the box claiming she w...... chali1234 发表于 9/21/2016 1:35:04 PM
是申请教职的时候。 不是申请上学。 http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/ Yet Warren did not identify as Native American as a child or when applying to college or law school. Instead Warren waited until her late 30′s, around the time she joined the U. Penn. Law School, and then used that identification only in connection with establishing herself for employment purposes as a minority. 再说一遍她是Rutgers law 毕业的。 然后去的Huston U, U of Texas， 在那里拿到tenure， 在U penn 突然就变成印第安人了。
Really? She did not study in Harvard, she teaches in Harvard. In her autobiography, she said her mom is native American, and her father's family did not accept her, therefore they eloped. Also she got her degree in Georgetown and Texas? Where is the link to her faked native Indian identity? I am curious.
Really? She did not study in Harvard, she teaches in Harvard. In her autobiography, she said her mom is native American, and her father's family did not accept her, therefore they eloped. Also she ...... Helicase 发表于 9/21/2016 9:14:06 PM
她在申请upenn和harvard的时候，都声称自己是印第安人。哈佛给了她offer，还向政府汇报说他们有了个woman of color
In 1995, Senator Warren was offered and accepted a job as a professor at Harvard Law School. One year later, a Harvard Law School administrator publicly described Warren as a “woman of color” in two separate publications, the Harvard Crimson (1996), and the Fordham Law Review (1997). http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-made-false-claim-of-minority-status-in-law-school-directories-beginning-in-1986/
她要是民主党今年的候选人，就没Trump什么事了。。。
Bernie 太左了。就好比 Cruz 太右了一样。
她是撒谎自己有印第安人血统，然后AA 进的哈佛法学院。。。。
看下面评论很有意思
她可能觉得时机不对，或者想多攒点经验。她当Senator也是最近的事。
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这样的人跟希拉里一样，为了自己的利益，什么都可以做的。没有底线。
穷人没有办法不是。 呵呵， 我是说她早年经历还是满励志。说实话， 脱离自己社会阶层，除非是出于乱世的大英雄， 其他人多少要用些见不得人的手段的。她那么个出身， 真要一格一格的爬梯子，还是很困难的。
几乎所有政治家都是要靠受贿的， 不过就是能不能圆那个谎而已。 我从来不对任何政治家的人品抱任何期待。
至少比希拉蕊要头脑清楚太多了。 她个人魅力也是有的， 我个人比较喜欢她的style。
说实话， 她这种人不上哈佛法学院也不会比那个人差的。认真的， 她这种人有非常强烈的改变自己人生的动力，同时也有那个能力。
没觉得表现如何好，看似犀利，其实只是因为她表达的观点迎合大众而已。说是审问stumpf，其实都不需要对方在场啊，因为她基本没怎么真正跟对方一问一答的沟通，都是那种很有导向性直接问句，只让对方用yes/no回答，而且不断打断对方的回答自顾自表达谴责。。。。
BTW，她三观真的很有问题啊，她说stumpf为了自己的利益push底层员工，让他们为了达到标准不得不cheat消费者（which is true，他需要对这个scandal负责），而这些拿12块hourly wages的员工都是无辜被逼迫的，他们好可怜。。。
但是难道每个cheat用户的底层员工就没有责任了吗？这是你穷你有理的逻辑还是法不责众的逻辑？因为老板push就作假骗客户，到头来他们反而是无辜受害者了？
怎么证明她撒谎了？
我爷爷跟我说我的祖籍是无锡。我从来没去过老家，也从来没查过我的祖籍是不是真是无锡。但是我没有原因认为我爷爷会骗我，所以当比人问我的时候我就说我的祖籍是无锡。如果哪天突然有证据说我的祖籍不是无锡，那就算我撒谎了？
为了达到自己的目标不择手段的人绝对不可能代表华人的利益。这种人上台以后最可能踩着弱小民族的肩膀往上爬。
呵呵。 他们两个几乎是不择手段往上爬的典型了。 ps， 希拉蕊和Warren还真不能算同一阶层出身的。Warren算是中下，接近底层了。
印地安人有他们自己的组织的。不是你说你是你就是。
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/is-elizabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/
不看好太穷出身的人当政客。这样的太多刁民。当一个大国的领袖没点品德还是不行。
其实美国所谓代表华人或者少数族裔的政治家都是一样的不择手段，加州的教训还少吗？ 支持华裔很多时候都是那些政治家拉选票的幌子， 别指望政治家正直，真正直了， 是不会趟政治的浑水的。 当然乱世英雄除外了。
warren 是从Rutgers毕业的，跟哈佛没有半点关系， 而且还是生孩子当了两年主妇才上的法学院。
哈哈，看过一个她在听证会把耶伦放在火上烤的录像。开始她是挺厉害，咄咄逼人，耶伦被问的张口结舌。两个问题以后，她开始给耶伦解围了，最后以耶伦对她非常感激的一笑结束。两人都是民主党的，这戏演的也太精彩了。
跟立场其实关系不大， 关键是不是有人背后挺她啦。
这个Elizabeth warren 在这方面绝对是更胜一筹。
Hillary 为了自己的总统梦对国家职务需要的时候就接受， 不需要的时候就放弃， 中间的谎言难道少？ 她估计最被大家诟病的事情就是撒谎了。
ps。 Harvard law和Yale law 在很长时间里边都是难分伯仲的， 我估计如果Hillary 当时的选择时harvard law 和 Rutgers law的话，撤自己是外星人都没有什么好令人惊讶的。
什么是上哈佛？
Warren started her academic career as a lecturer at Rutgers School of Law–Newark (1977–78). She moved to the University of Houston Law Center (1978–83), where she became Associate Dean for Academic Affairs in 1980, and obtained tenure in 1981. She taught at the University of Texas School of Law as visiting associate professor in 1981, and returned as a full professor two years later (staying 1983–87). In addition, she was a visiting professor at the University of Michigan (1985) and research associate at the Population Research Center of the University of Texas at Austin (1983–87).[35] Early in her career, Warren became a proponent of on-the-ground research based on studying how people actually respond to laws in the real world. Her work analyzing court records, and interviewing judges, lawyers, and debtors, established her as a rising star in the field of bankruptcy law.[36]
Warren joined the University of Pennsylvania Law School as a full professor in 1987 and obtained an endowed chair in 1990 (becoming William A Schnader Professor of Commercial Law). She taught for a year at Harvard Law School in 1992 as Robert Braucher Visiting Professor of Commercial Law. In 1995, Warren left Penn to become Leo Gottlieb Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.[35] As of 2011, she was the only tenured law professor at Harvard who had attended law school at an American public university.[36] At Harvard, Warren became one of the most highly cited law professors in the United States. Although she had published in many fields, her expertise was in bankruptcy. In the field of bankruptcy and commercial law, only Douglas Baird of Chicago, Alan Schwartz of Yale, and Bob Scott of Columbia have citation rates comparable to that of Warren.[37]
这个，那她为啥不出来竞选？trump往年出来估计也不会出线被提名
OBAMA早一点出来晚一点出来竞选估计也悬
口才是一回事，timing 也相当重要。
住5m mansion的人怎么可能是中下
是出身好不好， Warren 爸爸就是个打扫卫生的大爷， 还早死， 她一早就出来干活帮家用了。 这种出身不是中下是什么？ 就Warren 爬天梯的经历， 绝对可以spin出不错的故事， 喜欢还是讨厌就看个人了， 但是不管怎么说她是很大程度上靠天赋，靠读书，靠自己努力改变自己社会阶层的一个例子吧。
Warren是工作以后才突然变成印第安人的， 所以上学的时候也没有严重的撒谎吧。 反正政治家都不诚实是真的。 但是非要用warren洗白Hillary，也有点点太那个了吧。
对，我也不理解这个逻辑。。。如果这个逻辑成立，那以后穷人抢银行也是无责任咯？
http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/
Yet Warren did not identify as Native American as a child or when applying to college or law school. Instead Warren waited until her late 30′s, around the time she joined the U. Penn. Law School, and then used that identification only in connection with establishing herself for employment purposes as a minority.
再说一遍她是Rutgers law 毕业的。 然后去的Huston U, U of Texas， 在那里拿到tenure， 在U penn 突然就变成印第安人了。
这些人做事根本没有底线。
我到有点同意她的观点， 因为底层员工很多时候无法把自己利益和道德相挂钩， 往往他们只能保全一头而失去另一头。 服从老板的意图而放弃自己的道德观，在某种程度上是可以接受的。此外， 很多人是无法判断老板指示的真实目的，或者评判指示的道德规范性，而服从管理是他们生存的必须。
打个不那么恰当的比喻， 就是士兵在战场上是无法判断他们的行为的， 盲目听从是他们生存的目的。
能不能继续CEO是由board说了算，该不该炒某个层也是board决定的，这是大企业运行的基本常识。以为都和O8政府一样，一手遮天？
政客对自己的决策错误怎么负责，对下属的错误如何负责？
如果没有管理层的指示，5000员工能联合起来做同样一件事？ 如果可以，我觉得这5000人真是人物了。
底层员工为了混饭吃骗开户才是没有职业操守，员工自己不能判断么。
战场上杀敌无事，杀自己人试一试，无论哪里都还是有个准则。
这个stumpf是ceo，也是chairman of the board，这个架构非常不合理
你这个是胡搅了，如果只是个别人随便开空户头，那是个别人的错， 如果5000人同时大量的做同样的事情，就不是一个个别人道德缺失的问题了，更何况这种公司早有体制防止员工的欺诈行为了。5000人的错误都被无视，是公司管理的漏洞还是其他原因早就？ 现在不就是舍卒保帅？ ps. 公司做空头， 真正获利的是谁？
战场上士兵是盲从于领导的， 如果他们的领导让他们杀自己人，他们也会盲从， 历史上这种故事还少？ 但是个别一个人的行为，是另外一回事。
这其中还有一位主要负责的高层人士，56岁就在事件曝光之前突然退休了，真是算得好
解雇了5000员工，这么大事儿，compliance的大头，也算高层了吧，不需要负责吗，可是也完全没事啊，没被砸掉饭碗啊
要说10个百个的 这样做 还说得过去
5000个员工 在未告知户主的前提下 给乱开户 而且本身银行监管机制也没有介入 其实就是默认的
还有主管的头头拿了一大包裹 突然退休
这些加一起难道还不说明问题么！！
CEO又是 chair of board 简直太不合理了 自己决定自己命运 这不是扯淡么！
希拉里撒了一辈子谎不还是竞选总统，法律对这帮人没用
太扯了，这又不是什么界限模糊的灰色行为，直接就是欺骗客户的行为，任何在金融行业的从业者都至少有最基本的ethics要求和准则吧，就算是基层员工，他们欺骗客户的时候也是心知肚明自己是违法也是违背道德的，为了达到业务quota这么做，他们事发后被解雇难道不是很正常的么？怎么就成受害者了。。。
BTW，没人说高层老板没责任，不用负责。说的是把这些基层人员美化成无辜受害者是三观有问题，这些政客自己住着豪宅，假惺惺的表示对穷人的同情，进而混淆是非，仿佛基层这些穷人欺骗客户是无辜，仿佛自己和大众站在一起，其实他们才不care
自己用见不得人的手段，指责别人倒义正词严
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/clinton-foundation-took-donations-wells-fargo/
re. Bernie 还不如希拉里呢
是的，人该有个立场，改变立场该有过过程，在Bernie的身上没看到，感觉就是无底线。
问题出在ｗａｒｒｅｎ指责高层不辞职，搞分化和对立，替底层员工洗白，这个就不是解决问题的态度，是寻求眼球。
这个太牛拜了，被问的fbi感觉跟小学生被班主任教训一样
Where is the link to her faked native Indian identity? I am curious.
她在申请upenn和harvard的时候，都声称自己是印第安人。哈佛给了她offer，还向政府汇报说他们有了个woman of color
In 1995, Senator Warren was offered and accepted a job as a professor at Harvard Law School. One year later, a Harvard Law School administrator publicly described Warren as a “woman of color” in two separate publications, the Harvard Crimson (1996), and the Fordham Law Review (1997).
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-made-false-claim-of-minority-status-in-law-school-directories-beginning-in-1986/
warren在上学和tenure的之前都没aa
那时候就已经非常有影响力了。你以为是因为进哈佛才评了那么多奖？就是因为厉害，才被哈佛聘用的好不好？
退一步奖，假设她用了aa，那不是更证明Aa的有利？能培养出这么厉害的女性，在破产法上非常有建树？
床粉因为warren对trump批评，就如此攻击她，也真是让人醉了。
我觉得就事论事 把事情解决了就好了嘛。银行已经被罚钱，顾客账户被退款，大公司ceo下台换一个也不新鲜，要是高层的钱能被拿回来就更好了。
总之，问题解决了就好了嘛。可是我觉得其实民主党就是在炒作 撇清自己跟华尔街的关系。无论怎么解决，民主党总要拿这件事情好好唱戏，因为民主党的观众大票仓最喜欢这种仇富的调调，说白了就是愚弄民众。其实民主党都忘了自己竞选的funding都哪里来的