【重温#TrumpTheEstablishment, 热泪盈眶】大选聊天帖画上圆满句号

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1210pm
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你这是下了个套吗?大家都说坚决不投民主党,你好拿去外面说公民们自己上了车就关门什么的.......

再重复一遍:Stem绿卡是共和党提出来的,好几次,都是因为民主党要捆绑非法移民才没有通过。没有什么假设不假设,希勒里为了选票什么都能许诺。她还要release外星人信息呢,假设能实现,地球人会不会为了真相选她?

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icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 11:42:45 AM
不是下套,人都是为了自己,不用把大道理拿出来讲,直接说为了自己不会考虑别人就好了,说再多也掩盖不了的。大家都一样,没谁比谁更高尚,就是追着自己的利益跑,有了这个大前提再说别的
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kimy33
1502 楼
你们都不实在,直接说为了自己的利益,不会为想拿绿卡的同胞考虑就好了,这么简单的答案
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:33:48 AM
先不说撒谎成性的希拉里说得话能有多可靠,也不说即使真的给提供绿卡能有多少想拿绿卡的同胞能拿到。 你本身的提问就有问题。没有人会因为单单一条政策或者所谓一个承诺就支持某个总统候选人。如果拿到绿卡的附加条件是入学,工作AA, 出门要担心安全,时刻提防自己亲友被伤害,税收增高,保险费增高,那拿绿卡是为了什么? 比如你吃鸡蛋过敏,你会因为一碗鸡蛋羹里有一颗你喜欢的香菜而把这碗鸡蛋羹都吃了么?
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SDSPAGE
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先不说撒谎成性的希拉里说得话能有多可靠,也不说即使真的给提供绿卡能有多少想拿绿卡的同胞能拿到。 你本身的提问就有问题。没有人会因为单单一条政策或者所谓一个承诺就支持某个总统候选人。如果拿到绿卡的附加条件是入学,工作AA, 出门要担心安全,时刻提防自己亲友被伤害,税收增高,保险费增高,那拿绿卡是为了什么? 比如你吃鸡蛋过敏,你会因为一碗鸡蛋羹里有一颗你喜欢的香菜而把这碗鸡蛋羹都吃了么?

kimy33 发表于 6/30/2016 11:50:36 AM
说的好
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1210pm
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stem也是想拿绿卡的同胞中很小的一部份吧,给stem绿卡同时放进大量难民非移,势必造成其他非stem的同胞拿绿卡更加困难的局面,公平吗?

ajilon 发表于 6/30/2016 11:47:04 AM
啥公平不公平,人都是自私的,这个想明白了就都明白了。
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ajilon
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啥公平不公平,人都是自私的,这个想明白了就都明白了。
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:52:03 AM

自私套在你身上挺合适的,为了自己的绿卡不顾其他同胞的利益
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icylava
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美国公民当然要考虑America first,再管别的。再说了,从法律角度来说,入了外籍中国国籍已经自动丧失了,你以为遇到类似问题中国人民会把美籍华人当同胞?可笑哦……

不是下套,人都是为了自己,不用把大道理拿出来讲,直接说为了自己不会考虑别人就好了,说再多也掩盖不了的。大家都一样,没谁比谁更高尚,就是追着自己的利益跑,有了这个大前提再说别的

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:49:36 AM


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icylava
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唉,华人上jm们就是nice,像买买提锁男直接贴个图,讨论就结束了

先不说撒谎成性的希拉里说得话能有多可靠,也不说即使真的给提供绿卡能有多少想拿绿卡的同胞能拿到。 你本身的提问就有问题。没有人会因为单单一条政策或者所谓一个承诺就支持某个总统候选人。如果拿到绿卡的附加条件是入学,工作AA, 出门要担心安全,时刻提防自己亲友被伤害,税收增高,保险费增高,那拿绿卡是为了什么? 比如你吃鸡蛋过敏,你会因为一碗鸡蛋羹里有一颗你喜欢的香菜而把这碗鸡蛋羹都吃了么?

kimy33 发表于 6/30/2016 11:50:36 AM


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含笑的猫
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自私套在你身上挺合适的,为了绿卡不顾一切
ajilon 发表于 6/30/2016 11:54:27 AM
赞同!
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liangdoudou
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啥公平不公平,人都是自私的,这个想明白了就都明白了。
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:52:03 AM
本来就是这样,你应该问问那些民主党死忠洗白isis、AA、厕所问题都是为了啥,我都不跟他们辩政治论点,本来就是跟自己利益有关的谁也说服不了谁~
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piggymama
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啥公平不公平,人都是自私的,这个想明白了就都明白了。
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:52:03 AM
这还需要想吗?三权分立,就是因为人性本恶,所以任何权力都需要制衡。自私就是恶的一部分。

不是所有留学生都可以拿STEM绿卡,那你要不要为了这些同胞的利益,放弃自己的绿卡,选TRUMP呢。
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ScottishFold
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你们都不实在,直接说为了自己的利益,不会为想拿绿卡的同胞考虑就好了,这么简单的答案
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:33:48 AM
高收入的工作机会本来也少,难道美国高收入人群会喜欢更多人来美国抢他们的饭碗吗。美国人为什么要为外国人考虑。现在是美国优先。
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liangdoudou
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自私套在你身上挺合适的,为了绿卡不顾一切

ajilon 发表于 6/30/2016 11:54:27 AM
是啊,跑来质问不就是涉及自己利益了么, 要是他家附近一堆难民营 感受到为了再来62万的危机,他肯定去民党死忠那问了~
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ScottishFold
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美国公民当然要考虑America first,再管别的。再说了,从法律角度来说,入了外籍中国国籍已经自动丧失了,你以为遇到类似问题中国人民会把美籍华人当同胞?可笑哦……

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icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 11:54:08 AM
没错,就是这样。这次大选就是为了保护美国人的利益优先,希拉里这么干,还会失去美国高收入人群的选票。
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icylava
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到那时候ta跑得估计比谁都快

是啊,跑来质问不就是涉及自己利益了么, 要是他家附近一堆难民营 感受到为了再来62万的危机,他肯定去民党死忠那问了~

liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 11:59:22 AM


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chali1234
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希拉里说她上台要给stem硕士博士直接发绿卡,各位公民,如果她真的上台以后能贯彻执行挽救广大可怜的等绿卡的同胞,你们愿意为了同胞选她吗?还是坚持自己的利益选川普。

这里不讨论该政策的落实情况,就假设肯定能实现
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 10:59:36 AM

共和党2013年就推出这个政策了,被民主党非要绑定1100万非法移民而流产。希拉里政策的原文是
As part of a comprehensive immigration solution, Hillary would “staple” a
green card to STEM masters and PhDs from accredited institutions—enabling
international students who complete degrees in these fields to move to green
card status.
说的是复杂的移民方案的一部分,还是捆绑了非法移民。正常的中国人根本不会同意这个计划,跟1100万非法移民捆绑,再加上以后的AA,那绿卡还有什么用。
我自己就是PhD STEM,不管是从已经在美国的华人利益出发还是没有绿卡的PhD利益出发,根本不会同意老婊子的这个计划。
馒头的老婆
1516 楼
每天打开手机,给我推送main stream media的关于Trump的新闻,基本上全部都是负面的。越是这样,我越坚决地支持他。

让我想起了当年的Michael Jackson,无良媒体为了自己的利益,对他各种打压和抹黑。我现在更是深深地相信他是无辜的,他是一个童年缺失,缺爱,内心脆弱,但有非常想有小孩过正常家庭生活的人。
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1210pm
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美国公民当然要考虑America first,再管别的。再说了,从法律角度来说,入了外籍中国国籍已经自动丧失了,你以为遇到类似问题中国人民会把美籍华人当同胞?可笑哦……

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icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 11:54:08 AM

一样的,谁也别说谁
译码
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[quote]啥公平不公平,人都是自私的,这个想明白了就都明白了。
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ajilon 发表于 6/30/2016 11:54:27 AM
一针见血。。。。。。
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1210pm
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是啊,跑来质问不就是涉及自己利益了么, 要是他家附近一堆难民营 感受到为了再来62万的危机,他肯定去民党死忠那问了~

liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 11:59:22 AM
不是质问,因为我自己也是选择自己的利益,想看看大家是不是一样。自私就自私喽,大家都一样,没什么好不承认的
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1210pm
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没必要掩饰自己,大家都是为了自己,想通了就好
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chali1234
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不是质问,因为我自己也是选择自己的利益,想看看大家是不是一样。自私就自私喽,大家都一样,没什么好不承认的

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:03:19 PM
你别胡扯,有卡的jms为的是不让非法移民进来,跟本不是自私。
民主党要1100万非法移民+phd绿卡
共和党只要phd绿卡
你说选谁
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liangdoudou
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不是质问,因为我自己也是选择自己的利益,想看看大家是不是一样。自私就自私喽,大家都一样,没什么好不承认的

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:03:19 PM

是人都自私,谁也不会没事就说 “因为我自私所以我...”,   你也没直接先说你自私啊, 怎么别人没先说就是不承认了~ 倒是真不是所有人的都跟你一样这么爱阴阳怪气~
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icylava
1523 楼
MJ没生在“好”时候,现在哪个媒体敢说黑人一句坏话……

每天打开手机,给我推送main stream media的关于Trump的新闻,基本上全部都是负面的。越是这样,我越坚决地支持他。

让我想起了当年的Michael Jackson,无良媒体为了自己的利益,对他各种打压和抹黑。我现在更是深深地相信他是无辜的,他是一个童年缺失,缺爱,内心脆弱,但有非常想有小孩过正常家庭生活的人。
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ajilon
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没必要掩饰自己,大家都是为了自己,想通了就好
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:05:48 PM

为了自己的未来,也为了你这种没卡的以后有个良好的环境
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icylava
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你这样就是短视,美国如果被折腾到乌烟瘴气,像南非拉美国家一样,绿卡就成了臭狗屎,你还要吗?

不是质问,因为我自己也是选择自己的利益,想看看大家是不是一样。自私就自私喽,大家都一样,没什么好不承认的

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:03:19 PM


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icylava
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所以ta就是来下套的.....


是人都自私,谁也不会没事就说 “因为我自私所以我...”,   你也一没直接先说你自私啊, 怎么别人没先说就是不承认了~ 倒是真不是所有人的都跟你一样这么爱阴阳怪气~

liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 12:08:00 PM


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含笑的猫
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所以ta就是来下套的.....
icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 12:12:02 PM
我也有同感,无非是要去和其他人说,我们这些人自私,不为了他们没绿卡的人考虑,布拉布拉。。。
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1210pm
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所以ta就是来下套的.....

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icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 12:12:02 PM

有什么好下套的,没那个必要,就是看看大家怎么想罢了。
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ScottishFold
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一样的,谁也别说谁
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:01:17 PM
不一样,我们手上有选票。
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ScottishFold
1530 楼
绿卡必须经过筛选,不能随便什么烂学校混出来的就给。美国只要精英中的精英,其他普通的不需要。
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1210pm
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你们别太紧张了,没人来下套,就是突发奇想看看大家怎么反应,多大点事
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1210pm
1532 楼
不一样,我们手上有选票。

ScottishFold 发表于 6/30/2016 12:15:58 PM
这一点,我就挺欣赏你的,毫不掩饰自己只关心自己的利益
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piggymama
1533 楼
你们别太紧张了,没人来下套,就是突发奇想看看大家怎么反应,多大点事
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:18:07 PM
真的希拉里当选了,公司全部签字遵守AA,你毕业拿到绿卡也找不到工作啊。
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piggymama
1534 楼
大家看到了吗,Bill Clinton had private meeting with Attorney General
ajilon 发表于 6/30/2016 12:20:07 PM
at airport? 是说这个吗?
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ajilon
1535 楼
大家看到了吗,Bill Clinton had private meeting with Attorney General
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liangdoudou
1536 楼
你们别太紧张了,没人来下套,就是突发奇想看看大家怎么反应,多大点事
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:18:07 PM
有啥可紧张的,只是对不会好好说话的人就这样而已~
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piggymama
1537 楼
这一点,我就挺欣赏你的,毫不掩饰自己只关心自己的利益

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:20:43 PM
为啥要掩饰啊,我不仅关心自己的利益,更关心我家孩子的利益。
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ajilon
1538 楼
at airport? 是说这个吗?
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:20:46 PM
对,敏感时期敏感人物,媒体也嗅到了什么
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1210pm
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为啥要掩饰啊,我不仅关心自己的利益,更关心我家孩子的利益。
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:21:40 PM
就是啊,这很正常
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icylava
1540 楼
AG掌握着convict希勒里的情况?不是说克林顿家一个近臣刚被杀了吗?这两口子太可怕....

at airport? 是说这个吗?
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:20:46 PM


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piggymama
1541 楼
有人发现人家不关心他最关心的利益,就生气了。
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piggymama
1542 楼
AG掌握着convict希勒里的情况?不是说克林顿家一个近臣刚被杀了吗?这两口子太可怕....

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icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 12:25:28 PM
可能是说干扰司法公正。
含笑的猫
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AG掌握着convict希勒里的情况?不是说克林顿家一个近臣刚被杀了吗?这两口子太可怕....
icylava 发表于 6/30/2016 12:25:28 PM

既然有嫌疑,这个AG为啥私下和男克见面?知法犯法嘛!
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piggymama
1544 楼
既然有嫌疑,这个AG为啥私下和男克见面?执法犯法嘛!

含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 12:27:29 PM
秃子头上的虱子嘛,被抓到还辩解。
含笑的猫
1545 楼
秃子头上的虱子嘛,被抓到还辩解。
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:28:22 PM
就怕他们私下里通气,想办法掩盖罪行呢!真是没有王法了。
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piggymama
1546 楼
就怕他们私下里通气,想办法掩盖罪行呢!真是没有王法了。

含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 12:31:28 PM
不知道是通气阶段还是收买阶段。曝曝光挺好。
含笑的猫
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不知道是通气阶段还是收买阶段。曝曝光挺好。
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:33:28 PM
做AG的这么不知检点,还做啥AG啊!下台吧!
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1210pm
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有人发现人家不关心他最关心的利益,就生气了。
piggymama 发表于 6/30/2016 12:26:06 PM
尼可真逗
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piggymama
1549 楼
尼可真逗

1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 12:36:01 PM
我一直挺逗的。
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piggymama
1550 楼
做AG的这么不知检点,还做啥AG啊!下台吧!
含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 12:35:23 PM
让他们表演,把大众推向TRUMP。
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luckyzzz
1551 楼
每天看帖子都挺舒心的,今天看的真闹心,闷的慌。真是因为那种人多了,才担心人类早晚要灭亡。
美国是人类发展最先进的地方,所以大家都要去,但是谁都去还能成最先进的地方了吗,总要有点能耐啊,让那些脑残只能拖后腿的去,那地方还能保持最先进吗?
如果我不够资格,我可以继续努力修炼,至少我努力了之后有个地方能匹配我,但是反过来这地球上全是土工金三胖一类的货,你努力之后都没想去的地方,到那时想死的心都会有
含笑的猫
1552 楼
这个土耳其总统睁着眼睛说瞎话啊!
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chali1234
1553 楼
每天看帖子都挺舒心的,今天看的真闹心,闷的慌。真是因为那种人多了,才担心人类早晚要灭亡。
美国是人类发展最先进的地方,所以大家都要去,但是谁都去还能成最先进的地方了吗,总要有点能耐啊,让那些脑残只能拖后腿的去,那地方还能保持最先进吗?
如果我不够资格,我可以继续努力修炼,至少我努力了之后有个地方能匹配我,但是反过来这地球上全是土工金三胖一类的货,你努力之后都没想去的地方,到那时想死的心都会有
luckyzzz 发表于 6/30/2016 12:38:10 PM
你还别瞧不起土工和三胖,中日朝是百年之后仅有的能抵挡驴教的国家,欧洲美国都会沦陷。
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liangdoudou
1554 楼
Trump $10M 还没到啊,又收到信了,就又捐了点~
PLEASE CHIP IN AGAIN BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
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cindy2012
1555 楼
这个土耳其总统睁着眼睛说瞎话啊!


含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 12:48:59 PM
他反应比较迟钝,经常说一些冲动的话
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luckyzzz
1556 楼
不希望看到这天,所以这里的人们在做着努力不是。真到那一天,世界已经乱成什么样了,哪还有平静的生活,只剩生存了


你还别瞧不起土工和三胖,中日朝是百年之后仅有的能抵挡驴教的国家,欧洲美国都会沦陷。

chali1234 发表于 6/30/2016 12:48:00
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wobuaichicu
1557 楼
Trump $10M 还没到啊,又收到信了,就又捐了点~
PLEASE CHIP IN AGAIN BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
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liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 1:07:31 PM

又捐了点~
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wobuaichicu
1558 楼
不相信她发绿卡,为什么相信她引入非移和穆斯林
1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:13:21 AM

这不废话吗?奥巴马近几年一直在引入非移和穆斯林,希拉里赞成奥巴马的政策,自己的官方网站上也明晃晃地写着要做对非法有利的移民改革。早期共和党的科技绿卡方案她是反对的。

现在为了选票,翻脸比翻书都快。假如Trump的支持者说:你吃一坨狗屎我们就投票给你。她肯定会吃的。
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Dandan1987
1559 楼
Trump $10M 还没到啊,又收到信了,就又捐了点~
PLEASE CHIP IN AGAIN BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
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liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 1:07:31 PM

哪里可以查还差多少?
又捐了点
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ysunny
1560 楼
你们都不实在,直接说为了自己的利益,不会为想拿绿卡的同胞考虑就好了,这么简单的答案
  1210pm 发表于 6/30/2016 11:33:48 AM
你先问问想拿绿卡的同胞会不会愿意跟那么多非法移民绑定
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icylava
1561 楼
“360度不同”是不是就是土耳其总理说的?LOL

他反应比较迟钝,经常说一些冲动的话

cindy2012 发表于 6/30/2016 1:38:21 PM


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harwish
1562 楼

哪里可以查还差多少?
又捐了点

Dandan1987 发表于 6/30/2016 3:06:02 PM

没得查
应该是还没到,所以campaign继续写信发动大家捐款
阿婆
1563 楼

没得查
应该是还没到,所以campaign继续写信发动大家捐款

harwish 发表于 6/30/2016 3:29:12 PM
你认识她的志愿者不,建议他们联系一下Patrick Soon-Shiong,据说是最富有的华裔,南非华人,受过白眼的,现在la, 也是加洲圈里的
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ysunny
1564 楼
Trump $10M 还没到啊,又收到信了,就又捐了点~
PLEASE CHIP IN AGAIN BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT
https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/donate
  liangdoudou 发表于 6/30/2016 1:07:31 PM
谢link。人生第一次政治捐款~
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whyhere
1565 楼
你认识她的志愿者不,建议他们联系一下Patrick Soon-Shiong,据说是最富有的华裔,南非华人,受过白眼的,现在la, 也是加洲圈里的

阿婆 发表于 6/30/2016 3:31:10 PM
   个人捐有上限的吧
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liangdoudou
1566 楼
   个人捐有上限的吧
whyhere 发表于 6/30/2016 3:50:58 PM

看个人捐款页面最多$2700,可以以公司机构名义捐多些~
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liangdoudou
1567 楼
谢link。人生第一次政治捐款~

ysunny 发表于 6/30/2016 3:41:41 PM
赞,我也是今年才开始政治捐款,以前也没关心过政治~
含笑的猫
1568 楼
ZT:男克和女克手里有多少人命?

Just a quick refresher course - lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.

1- James McDougal – Clintons’ convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary prison confinement. He was a key
witness in the Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was
to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm; said to be her lover. Died of a
gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman; reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a
gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke
publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the
people on the plane also died. A few days later the air traffic controller
involved “committed suicide”.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992; described by Clinton as
a“dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the
oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton
fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock
Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly
threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had
a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were
going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the
Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancé of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by
huaren.using out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

14- Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He
died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
ruled a suicide; was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident (?).

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. He was investigating Mena
Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet seat
June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment; had delivered a report to Janet
Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp.; he huaren.used to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer; worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown; died November 29, 1996. Her
bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally
treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather, and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas; his death
was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and a report on his death was never released.

26 - Hershel Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, their
death was due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys
had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case
died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 -Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov. 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes”.

33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD – all relatively young; they all knew intimately of Clinton’s sexual escapades;

35 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

36 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds

37 - Sgt. Brian Hanley

38 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

39 - Major General William Robertson

40 - Col. William Densberger

41 - Col. Robert Kelly

42 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

43 - Steve Willis

44 - Robert Williams

45 - Conway LeBleu

46 - Todd McKeehan.

Quite an impressive list of “unexpected early deaths”! Pass this on and let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons – when
they become “unreliable”!
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sheepsheep2
1570 楼
你认识她的志愿者不,建议他们联系一下Patrick Soon-Shiong,据说是最富有的华裔,南非华人,受过白眼的,现在la, 也是加洲圈里的

阿婆 发表于 6/30/2016 3:31:10 PM
是那个医生吗?他好像是民主党
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liangdoudou
1571 楼
Donald J. Trump
2 hrs ·
Obama's Department of Homeland Security has "surged resources" to meet Obama's goal of settling 10,000 Syrian refugees in the United States by the end of 2016. While Obama has worked to bring in more refugees without a proper vetting procedure in place, Hillary Clinton has decided to expand the original goal by 550%. While the Clinton/Obama refugee plans continue to put national security at risk, I will do everything in my power to Make America Safe Again!
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chali1234
1572 楼
ZT:男克和女克手里有多少人命?

Just a quick refresher course - lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.

1- James McDougal – Clintons’ convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary prison confinement. He was a key
witness in the Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was
to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm; said to be her lover. Died of a
gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman; reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a
gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke
publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the
people on the plane also died. A few days later the air traffic controller
involved “committed suicide”.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992; described by Clinton as
a“dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the
oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton
fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock
Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly
threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had
a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were
going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the
Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancé of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by
huaren.using out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

14- Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He
died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
ruled a suicide; was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident (?).

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. He was investigating Mena
Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet seat
June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment; had delivered a report to Janet
Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp.; he huaren.used to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer; worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown; died November 29, 1996. Her
bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally
treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather, and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas; his death
was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and a report on his death was never released.

26 - Hershel Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, their
death was due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys
had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case
died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 -Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov. 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes”.

33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD – all relatively young; they all knew intimately of Clinton’s sexual escapades;

35 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

36 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds

37 - Sgt. Brian Hanley

38 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

39 - Major General William Robertson

40 - Col. William Densberger

41 - Col. Robert Kelly

42 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

43 - Steve Willis

44 - Robert Williams

45 - Conway LeBleu

46 - Todd McKeehan.

Quite an impressive list of “unexpected early deaths”! Pass this on and let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons – when
they become “unreliable”!

含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 9:37:08 PM

1000种死法都没有这个精彩,还有健身举杠铃似的。
含笑的猫
1573 楼
ZT: 国务院提请延缓两年处理希拉里电邮门事件

Citing the agency's own errors in the handling of a request for emails of
four former aides to Hillary Clinton, the State Department is asking a
federal judge to extend the deadline to complete processing of the records
by more than two years.

Justice Department lawyers notified U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph
Contreras on Wednesday that State will be unable to meet the court-ordered
deadline of July 21 in the lawsuit the conservative group Citizens United
brought earlier this year seeking emails ex-State Department officials
Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Melanne Verveer and Michael Fuchs exchanged with
individuals at the Clinton Foundation or a firm with ties to the Clintons,
Teneo Consulting.

The government lawyers asked Contreras to give State an additional 27 months
— until October 2018—to finish work on the request, processing documents
at a rate of about 500 pages a month.

State FOIA official Eric Stein said the agency thought in March that
searches turned up about 6,000 documents potentially responsive to the
request and that fewer than half of those were likely to be ultimately
responsive after duplicates were culled out.

However, in recent months, "the Department discovered errors in the manner
in which the searches had been conducted in order to capture documents
potentially responsive to Plaintiff’s requests," Stein told the judge in a
written declaration. One office he did not further identify searched only
the 'from' and 'to' fields of messages, meaning that forwarded messages
involving the individuals identified by Citizens United might not have been
captured.

In addition, Stein said State realized that "due to some errors recently
identified with the responsiveness review, some attachments to responsive e-
mails were inadvertently marked as non-responsive."

As a result, it now appears more than 14,000 pages are covered by Citizens
United's request and that number could grow as State wrestles with the
attachment issue, Stein said.

The litigation spiraling from the discovery over a year ago of Clinton's use
of a private email s during her four years of secretary of state seems to
be intensifying, as conservative groups, the Republican National Committee
and some in the media press to receive their requested records in advance of
the election.

Citizens United President David Bossie called the delay State requested this
week "outrageous" and explicitly accused the agency f trying to cover for
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

"This is totally unacceptable; the State Department is using taxpayer
dollars to protect their candidate Hillary Clinton." Bossie said. "The
American people have a right to see these emails before the election. If
transparency is truly important to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, they
will order the production of all of these records as ordered by the court by
July 21, 2016. The conflicts of interest that were made possible by the
activities of Hillary Clinton’s State Department in tandem with the Clinton
Foundation are of significant importance to the public and the law
enforcement community."

Asked about Bossie's claim that State is trying to aide Clinton by slow-
walking the records, a State spokeswoman had no direct comment.

However, State spokesman John Kirby blamed resource constraints and—as
POLITICO revealed Wednesday—a growing backlog of requests now numbering
over 29,000.

"We cannot comment as this matter is in ongoing litigation," Kirby said. "
Generally speaking, there has been a significant surge in FOIA requests to
the State Department in recent years and we are working diligently to
respond. The volume of FOIA requests received by the Department has tripled
since 2008."

"In fiscal year 2015 alone we received approximately 22,000 FOIA requests.
The requests are also frequently more complex and seek larger volumes of
documents, requiring significantly more time, resources, and interagency
coordination. While we have increased staffing for our FOIA office, our
available resources are still nonetheless constrained," Kirby said.

State says it has processed all work-related records in about 54,000 pages
of emails Clinton turned over to her former agency in 2014. However,
hundreds of requests for official-account and private-account emails from a
slew of Clinton aides are pending.

State said this week it is falling behind in routine processing of requests
as officials focus on the 106 FOIA lawsuits pending against the agency, most
of them involving emails or other records related to Clinton or her top
aides.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/clinton-emails-state-lawsuit-delay-request-224981#ixzz4D7V11gfY
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icylava
1574 楼
WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ZT: 国务院提请延缓两年处理希拉里电邮门事件

Citing the agency's own errors in the handling of a request for emails of
four former aides to Hillary Clinton, the State Department is asking a
federal judge to extend the deadline to complete processing of the records
by more than two years.

Justice Department lawyers notified U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph
Contreras on Wednesday that State will be unable to meet the court-ordered
deadline of July 21 in the lawsuit the conservative group Citizens United
brought earlier this year seeking emails ex-State Department officials
Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Melanne Verveer and Michael Fuchs exchanged with
individuals at the Clinton Foundation or a firm with ties to the Clintons,
Teneo Consulting.

The government lawyers asked Contreras to give State an additional 27 months
— until October 2018—to finish work on the request, processing documents
at a rate of about 500 pages a month.

State FOIA official Eric Stein said the agency thought in March that
searches turned up about 6,000 documents potentially responsive to the
request and that fewer than half of those were likely to be ultimately
responsive after duplicates were culled out.

However, in recent months, "the Department discovered errors in the manner
in which the searches had been conducted in order to capture documents
potentially responsive to Plaintiff’s requests," Stein told the judge in a
written declaration. One office he did not further identify searched only
the 'from' and 'to' fields of messages, meaning that forwarded messages
involving the individuals identified by Citizens United might not have been
captured.

In addition, Stein said State realized that "due to some errors recently
identified with the responsiveness review, some attachments to responsive e-
mails were inadvertently marked as non-responsive."

As a result, it now appears more than 14,000 pages are covered by Citizens
United's request and that number could grow as State wrestles with the
attachment issue, Stein said.

The litigation spiraling from the discovery over a year ago of Clinton's use
of a private email s during her four years of secretary of state seems to
be intensifying, as conservative groups, the Republican National Committee
and some in the media press to receive their requested records in advance of
the election.

Citizens United President David Bossie called the delay State requested this
week "outrageous" and explicitly accused the agency f trying to cover for
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

"This is totally unacceptable; the State Department is using taxpayer
dollars to protect their candidate Hillary Clinton." Bossie said. "The
American people have a right to see these emails before the election. If
transparency is truly important to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, they
will order the production of all of these records as ordered by the court by
July 21, 2016. The conflicts of interest that were made possible by the
activities of Hillary Clinton’s State Department in tandem with the Clinton
Foundation are of significant importance to the public and the law
enforcement community."

Asked about Bossie's claim that State is trying to aide Clinton by slow-
walking the records, a State spokeswoman had no direct comment.

However, State spokesman John Kirby blamed resource constraints and—as
POLITICO revealed Wednesday—a growing backlog of requests now numbering
over 29,000.

"We cannot comment as this matter is in ongoing litigation," Kirby said. "
Generally speaking, there has been a significant surge in FOIA requests to
the State Department in recent years and we are working diligently to
respond. The volume of FOIA requests received by the Department has tripled
since 2008."

"In fiscal year 2015 alone we received approximately 22,000 FOIA requests.
The requests are also frequently more complex and seek larger volumes of
documents, requiring significantly more time, resources, and interagency
coordination. While we have increased staffing for our FOIA office, our
available resources are still nonetheless constrained," Kirby said.

State says it has processed all work-related records in about 54,000 pages
of emails Clinton turned over to her former agency in 2014. However,
hundreds of requests for official-account and private-account emails from a
slew of Clinton aides are pending.

State said this week it is falling behind in routine processing of requests
as officials focus on the 106 FOIA lawsuits pending against the agency, most
of them involving emails or other records related to Clinton or her top
aides.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/clinton-emails-state-lawsuit-delay-request-224981#ixzz4D7V11gfY

含笑的猫 发表于 7/1/2016 12:08:38 AM


☆ 发自 iPhone 华人一网 1.11.07
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luckyso
1575 楼
WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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icylava 发表于 7/1/2016 12:29:56 AM
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Louisewu
1576 楼
凭什么延缓,早就该处理了,拖到现在已经是扯淡!国务院被希拉里收买了吗?太恶心了

ZT: 国务院提请延缓两年处理希拉里电邮门事件
Citing the agency's own errors in the handling of a request for emails of
four former aides to Hillary Clinton, the State Department is asking a
federal judge to extend the deadline to complete processing of the records
by more than two years.
Justice Department lawyers notified U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph
Contreras on Wednesday that State will be unable to meet the court-ordered
deadline of July 21 in the lawsuit the conservative group Citizens United
brought earlier this year seeking emails ex-State Department officials
Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Melanne Verveer and Michael Fuchs exchanged with
individuals at the Clinton Foundation or a firm with ties to the Clintons,
Teneo Consulting.
The government lawyers asked Contreras to give State an additional 27 months
— until October 2018—to finish work on the request, processing documents
at a rate of about 500 pages a month.
State FOIA official Eric Stein said the agency thought in March that
searches turned up about 6,000 documents potentially responsive to the
request and that fewer than half of those were likely to be ultimately
responsive after duplicates were culled out.
However, in recent months, "the Department discovered errors in the manner
in which the searches had been conducted in order to capture documents
potentially responsive to Plaintiff’s requests," Stein told the judge in a
written declaration. One office he did not further identify searched only
the 'from' and 'to' fields of messages, meaning that forwarded messages
involving the individuals identified by Citizens United might not have been
captured.
In addition, Stein said State realized that "due to some errors recently
identified with the responsiveness review, some attachments to responsive e-
mails were inadvertently marked as non-responsive."
As a result, it now appears more than 14,000 pages are covered by Citizens
United's request and that number could grow as State wrestles with the
attachment issue, Stein said.
The litigation spiraling from the discovery over a year ago of Clinton's use
of a private email s during her four years of secretary of state seems to
be intensifying, as conservative groups, the Republican National Committee
and some in the media press to receive their requested records in advance of
the election.
Citizens United President David Bossie called the delay State requested this
week "outrageous" and explicitly accused the agency f trying to cover for
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
"This is totally unacceptable; the State Department is using taxpayer
dollars to protect their candidate Hillary Clinton." Bossie said. "The
American people have a right to see these emails before the election. If
transparency is truly important to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, they
will order the production of all of these records as ordered by the court by
July 21, 2016. The conflicts of interest that were made possible by the
activities of Hillary Clinton’s State Department in tandem with the Clinton
Foundation are of significant importance to the public and the law
enforcement community."
Asked about Bossie's claim that State is trying to aide Clinton by slow-
walking the records, a State spokeswoman had no direct comment.
However, State spokesman John Kirby blamed resource constraints and—as
POLITICO revealed Wednesday—a growing backlog of requests now numbering
over 29,000.
"We cannot comment as this matter is in ongoing litigation," Kirby said. "
Generally speaking, there has been a significant surge in FOIA requests to
the State Department in recent years and we are working diligently to
respond. The volume of FOIA requests received by the Department has tripled
since 2008."
"In fiscal year 2015 alone we received approximately 22,000 FOIA requests.
The requests are also frequently more complex and seek larger volumes of
documents, requiring significantly more time, resources, and interagency
coordination. While we have increased staffing for our FOIA office, our
available resources are still nonetheless constrained," Kirby said.
State says it has processed all work-related records in about 54,000 pages
of emails Clinton turned over to her former agency in 2014. However,
hundreds of requests for official-account and private-account emails from a
slew of Clinton aides are pending.
State said this week it is falling behind in routine processing of requests
as officials focus on the 106 FOIA lawsuits pending against the agency, most
of them involving emails or other records related to Clinton or her top
aides.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/clinton-emails-state-lawsuit-delay-request-224981#ixzz4D7V11gfY

含笑的猫 发表于 7/1/2016 12:08:00 AM
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Ghostouch
1577 楼
凭什么延缓,早就该处理了,拖到现在已经是扯淡!国务院被希拉里收买了吗?太恶心了

Louisewu 发表于 7/1/2016 12:55:52 AM
有奥黑从中作梗吧。
含笑的猫
1578 楼
凭什么延缓,早就该处理了,拖到现在已经是扯淡!国务院被希拉里收买了吗?太恶心了
Louisewu 发表于 7/1/2016 12:55:52 AM
这就是赤裸裸的不要脸呗!
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kimy33
1579 楼
fb 上面骂声一片,说2天前Bill Clinton 才见过DOJ 的头儿,然后突然今天就说有error 了。简直太恶心了
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peacelily921
1580 楼
凭什么延缓,早就该处理了,拖到现在已经是扯淡!国务院被希拉里收买了吗?太恶心了

Louisewu 发表于 7/1/2016 12:55:52 AM
她老公毕竟做过8年总统,当然是最大限度的利用人脉关系,桌下的交易知道的人不说,一般人又哪能知道,更何况现任总统还和她是一条线上的。。。。
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grape12
1581 楼
她老公毕竟做过8年总统,当然是最大限度的利用人脉关系,桌下的交易知道的人不说,一般人又哪能知道,更何况现任总统还和她是一条线上的。。。。

peacelily921 发表于 7/1/2016 11:15:40 AM
感觉他们家是想要留骂名于后人的节奏。
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icylava
1582 楼
比尔当总统攒下那点人品都被他老婆败光了……也好,谁让他自己拉链不严实

感觉他们家是想要留骂名于后人的节奏。

grape12 发表于 7/1/2016 11:43:18 AM


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luckyso
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fb 上面骂声一片,说2天前Bill Clinton 才见过DOJ 的头儿,然后突然今天就说有error 了。简直太恶心了
kimy33 发表于 7/1/2016 10:55:41 AM

啥error? Lynch回答记者问为啥要见男克,兜圈子不回答问题
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kimy33
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回复 1582楼luckyso的帖子

我没表达清楚。我的意思是2天前Lynch见过男克,两天后State Department 就要求延长调查时间,报道原话是 ”Citing the agency's own errors in the handling of a request for emails of four former aides to Hillary Clinton, the State Department is asking a federal judge to extend the deadline to complete processing of the records by more than two years."
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cindy2012
1585 楼
这两口子是想彻底把持一切,成为super family
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Louisewu
1586 楼
她老公毕竟做过8年总统,当然是最大限度的利用人脉关系,桌下的交易知道的人不说,一般人又哪能知道,更何况现任总统还和她是一条线上的。。。。

peacelily921 发表于 7/1/2016 11:15:40 AM

这一家子都是祸害
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luckyso
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回复 1582楼luckyso的帖子

我没表达清楚。我的意思是2天前Lynch见过男克,两天后State Department 就要求延长调查时间,报道原话是 ”Citing the agency's own errors in the handling of a request for emails of four former aides to Hillary Clinton, the State Department is asking a federal judge to extend the deadline to complete processing of the records by more than two years."
kimy33 发表于 7/1/2016 12:41:32 PM

这个error是指state department犯的吧?
含笑的猫
1588 楼
咋的,这年头坏人更横是不是?那些抗议死刑的人们也是傻叉!你们以为杀人者不偿命,就能救赎坏人的灵魂?杀人者不偿命,那些无辜死难者就是活该白死?杀人者不偿命,宁愿用交税人的钱白白养着他们?一方太坏,一方太傻,这世界是搞不懂了!

ZT: Boston Marathon Bomber Warning From Al-Qaida Vows Revenge for Execution
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/boston-marathon-bomber-warning-al-qaida/2016/07/01/id/736702/
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luckyso
1589 楼
隔壁呼唤苏格兰猫的帖子来了个疯子,大家注意语言,不要被他激怒,估计他离被封也不远了。
摘录一下:

irince 发于 2016-07-01 13:38, 论坛: Chats  华人闲话
你一样白痴,谁懂你的狗屁逻辑和笑点。

irince 发于 2016-07-01 13:46, 论坛: Chats 华人闲话

去你大爷的,我能说什么花?我说可兰经原文能改?我说的?自我解读和原文有区别你懂么?不然考中文阅读理解大家都一样分数是么?那你理解能力怎么这么差?别人的话看不懂。全世界穆斯林多了,我可不像狒狒你这么关心你的“绿绿”。而且你要拥抱,我还可以帮你指明谁才是“绿绿”。叙利亚都是你说的绿绿?狒狒。关注你都找不到对象。

irince 发于 2016-07-01 13:59, 论坛: Chats 华人闲话

我说我在英国了么?你给买机票啊?你在美国怎么了?别人都没呆过,就剩你了?大神你太有知了,明眼人都知道你TM净扯,根本经不起推敲。
含笑的猫
1590 楼
ZT:Loretta Lynch to Accept F.B.I. Recommendations in Clinton

丫承认见面了,丫承认不妥了,丫决定全部交给下面去办了。

男克自己走过去和她打招呼的。

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html?_r=0
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kimy33
1591 楼

这个error是指state department犯的吧?

luckyso 发表于 7/1/2016 1:34:01 PM

恩,对的。 就是他们自己为了申请延期找的理由
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cindy2012
1592 楼
ZT:Loretta Lynch to Accept F.B.I. Recommendations in Clinton

丫承认见面了,丫承认不妥了,丫决定全部交给下面去办了。

男克自己走过去和她打招呼的。

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html?_r=0

含笑的猫 发表于 7/1/2016 1:53:09 PM
规矩都是给下面人制定的,哪个政府都有一些想凌驾法律之上的人。考验美国人民对此的容忍程度吧
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dingdingdddd
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郭晓明:美国生产率负增长与全球经济碎片化
                 郭晓明
中科大风云学会研究员,加拿大麦吉尔大学物理学博士


         英媒金融时报网专栏作家爱德华·卢斯(Edward Luce)2016年5月29日发表了《美国生产率负增长之谜》的文章[1],说美国生产率30年来第一次出现负增长。卢斯开篇的“谜”是一个对比:当你过着戴着健康跟踪器跑步这种现代高科技生活的时候,怎么能相信这种负面统计数据呢?然后他引用了保罗·克鲁格曼的名言:“生产率并非一切,但从长远看,它几乎就是一切。”然后一个反转,说美国生产率负增长统计没有错,特朗普选举现象表现出了美国人民对经济的失望和愤怒。其实不仅仅美国,所有发达国家都处于经济复苏无力的焦虑期,都有日益增加的社会不安。

    卢斯不是第一个用生产率下降来解释美国总统竞选表现出的美国社会焦虑不安的人。5月5日财富网刊登了Alan Murray的评论员文章[2],文章评论2016美国生产率下降1%,是过去6个季度以来第四次生产率下降,Alan Murray也以此解释特朗普现象。     卢斯文章谈的其实并不是为什么美国生产率会负增长之谜,而是为什么美国财经数据那么好,而民众感受的经济那么差这个谜。2015年下半年开始,西方主流财经舆论就一派唱好美国,唱衰中国的舆论,如高盛关于2016全球经济展望就是典型一例[3]。财经数据说美国经济最好,为什么美国民众还会对美国经济一肚子怨气呢?这是一个谜。卢斯说,这个谜解决了,经济数据并不是都好,还有一个生产率负增长不好,这就解释了美国民众的迷失和愤怒。     卢斯文章谈到的美国生产率负增长,来源于5月25日金融时报网另一篇文章[4],那篇文章报道了经济咨商局(The Conference Board)的最新研究报告,其中有美国生产率负增长的数据。 图1:美国生产率增长。(引自英媒金融时报网4)     必须认识到,生产率增长和生产率是两码事。虽然美国生产率是负增长,但美国生产率水平依然是全球最高之一。中国劳动生产率水平还不到美国劳动生产率水平的五分之一[5]。如果五倍于中国的美国生产率第一季度降低了1%就引发美国民众对经济的愤怒,那么只有美国生产率五分之一的中国民众不就得都上梁山造反了?其次,生产率要和就业人口的劳动时间相乘起来才是产出。劳动参与率降低和失业率居高不下,尤其是人口老龄化,劳动力人口下降,才是比生产率水平波动更重要的造成美国愤怒的原因。用生产率负增长来解释特朗普竞选现象,来解释美国民众对经济的焦虑和愤怒,这不能说一点道理都没有。但是,当美国生产率下降还是个谜的时候,这是用一个谜解释另一个谜,这种解释对于美国经济政治制定于事无补。 图2:全球生产率增长(引自经济咨商局2015生产率简报4)     5月14日普林斯顿大学教授艾伦·布林德(Alan S. Blinder)也在《华尔街日报》发表了题为《生产率下降之谜》的评论文章[6],说美国生产率自1995至2010一直是健康的2.6%年增长,然后就变成了贫血的0.4%,更恐怖的是我们不知道这是为什么。这才是经济学家说的美国生产率增长率下降之谜。     从图2可以看到,生产率下降不仅仅是美国的问题,而且是全球经济的问题。自2008金融海啸震荡至2010年以后,就急遽下滑进一个走低的轨道。从图2全球生产率增长的线性拟合上看,2003年是生产率增长偏离历史轨迹的分叉点,而2003年就是美国单边主义占领伊拉克那年。统计数据真正进入生产率增长下降的拟合曲线是在2011年,是美国开启亚太再平衡那年。图2曲线在2011年没有弹回上去,脱离剧烈震荡进入稳步下降,这证明了全球经济根本没有所谓复苏,而是进入了长期低迷。这大概就是布林德认为恐怖的事情。2008年以来,世界各国都说要吸取上世纪30年底大萧条的教训,不要搞孤立主义,以尽快使得全球经济复苏。然而,美国作为金融海啸的失误者,并没有承担其领导全球经济复苏的责任,反而量化宽松印钞转嫁国内危机,日欧也相继效仿,搞了个大萧条时期以邻为壑的2.0版,世界各国没有合作以摆脱全球经济低迷状态。加上美国地缘政治的手筋,先是阿拉伯之春摧毁了中东经济,其后乌克兰战乱割裂了俄欧经济,今天则以唯恐天下不乱的劲头持久推高南海紧张局势,2008年以后,全球经济被割裂了,被分裂了。全球经济一体化进程变为全球经济碎片化进程。图2中全球经济生产率增长率下降的曲线,反映了全球经济进程从一体化进入碎片化。     提高生产率,需要科技创新。科技产业化,需要全球大市场。历史上工业革命,无不需要全球市场背书。科技产业有规模经济特点,生产一千个产品是一个发明,生产一千万个产品也可以是同一个发明,但后者每个商品的研发成本只是前者的万分之一。科技成分越高,研发成本越高,需要的市场也越大。中国已经是全球最大的制造业国家,美国要用TPP和亚太再平衡把这个全球最大的制造国从全球经济中剥离出去,这不知道是剥离中国,还是美国自绝于全球经济。不难看出,美国产出率增长进入下降轨迹就是美国全球战略的必然结果。     那么,为什么美国全球战略要把全球经济碎片化呢?科技是提高生产率的必要因素,但不是充分因素。科技成果要转变成商业利润,需要巨大的投资。宏观经济告诉我们,在不考虑对外投资的情况下,一个经济体的投资等于这个经济体的储蓄。根据世界银行的数据,中国总储蓄大约占GDP的50%[7],固定资产形成占GDP的47%[8];而美国总储蓄大约占GDP的18%,固定资产形成占GDP的19%。在全球经济中,一国的储蓄可以是另外一国国家的投资。美国投资高于储蓄,有更多的资本流入;中国储储蓄高于投资,有更多的资本流出。中国持有的大量美国债务,显然是中国储蓄变成美国投资的途径之一。     所以,中国提高生产率,是资金有余技术不足。美国提高生产率,是技术有余资金不足。美国科技依然领先世界,美国高科技成果层出不穷,页岩油、无人驾驶车、航天火箭回收、人工智能阿尔法狗等等。劳动生产率的提高,科技进步是决定因素。以美国的科技优势,美国生产率增长为负简直是天理难容。美国要提高生产率,需要全球资本到美国投资。中东战乱,乌克兰战乱,南海和朝鲜半岛紧张局势,客观上都是把全球资本往美国赶,这种战乱化的全球美元政治是全球经济碎片化的根源。可见美国全球军事战略,虽然一方面增加了美国的投资,另一方面又碎片化了全球经济,两相抵消,净结果是美国生产率增长为负!这是得不偿失。     科索沃战争,欧洲资本跑到美国,成为美国互联网经济的尖刀班敢死队。乌克兰战乱,割断了俄欧产业链,欧洲资本没有俄国去路,也得往美国跑一些。南海万一发生中美冲突,中国资本能往美国跑吗?如果有中美战争风险,中国资本留在美国就有被冻结被没收的国际政治风险。即便仅仅是中美紧张对峙,美国国内投资环境也不利于中国资本。东海战争,朝鲜半岛战争,可以让日韩资本往美国跑,但是,南海冲突,要重复科索沃战争和乌克兰战争的欧洲资本跑到美国的故事,必须是中美是盟国才有可能。中菲冲突,必须是中美同盟反对菲律宾才能使得中国资本撤出菲律宾流向美国。美菲联盟,南海战乱,菲律宾有多少资本抽出中国投资美国?中越冲突南海战乱,越南有多少资本抽出中国流往美国?零。所以,奥巴马亚太再平衡战略放在南海搅局,是有失无得。美国生产率负增长,应该是对美国亚太再平衡战略的当头棒喝。     美国生产率负增长,也是经济空心化的必然结果,即劳动力人口从工业转到服务业。长期以来,美国服务业中的金融业和律师业是高收入行业,是全球经济中超额利润行业。金融、军工、和全球经济规则制定和解释的律师业,是美国全球霸权的基础行业,也是超额利润行业。这些行业,实际上是全球经济交易成本上升的原因。由于美国全球霸权要超额利润,美国军火集团和金融集团超额利润的增加就是全球经济交易成本的增加,就是全球经济生产率水平的降低。美国物流、零售等服务业的生态,就是把这些超额利润扩散到美国经济中转变为消费的辅助行业,这些流通领域的行业很难提高劳动生产率,因此降低了美国整体生产率。     全球经济一体化进程是过去三十年全球生产率健康增长的基础。911以后美国实行单边主义,使得全球经济进入碎片化。尤其是2008年以来,全球经济碎片化现象愈演愈烈,孤立主义在西方各国抬头。这是美国生产率负增长的关键原因,也是全球经济复苏无力的关键原因。 作者简介:郭晓明,加拿大麦吉尔大学物理学博士,中国科学技术大学科技与战略风云学会研究员,曾任汇丰证券信息安全副官、贵州大学社会科学研究所所长、加拿大劳里尔大学商学院和物理计算机系兼职教授,微博@西西河氏唵啊吽 。 致谢:感谢中国科学技术大学科技与战略风云学会会长袁岚峰博士(微博@中科大胡不归 )等人提供的宝贵意见。
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FEC是不是应该来调查希拉里?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/01/clinton-sought-secret-info-on-eu-bailout-plans-as-son-in-laws-doomed-hedge-fund-gambled-on-greece.html

luckyso 发表于 7/1/2016 2:36:29 PM
现在的美国还有几个敢做事的?
布瓴布丁
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贴几个漫画看看



含笑的猫
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ZT:男克和女克手里有多少人命?

Just a quick refresher course - lest we forget what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.

1- James McDougal – Clintons’ convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary prison confinement. He was a key
witness in the Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was
to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm; said to be her lover. Died of a
gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman; reported to
have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a
gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke
publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the
people on the plane also died. A few days later the air traffic controller
involved “committed suicide”.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992; described by Clinton as
a“dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the
oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton
fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock
Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly
threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were
mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had
a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found
dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were
going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the
Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancé of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June,
1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by
huaren.using out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
convicted drug distributor.

14- Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He
died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
ruled a suicide; was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident (?).

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. He was investigating Mena
Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet seat
June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment; had delivered a report to Janet
Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp.; he huaren.used to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer; worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown; died November 29, 1996. Her
bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally
treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather, and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas; his death
was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and a report on his death was never released.

26 - Hershel Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994,
when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug
operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, their
death was due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys
had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case
died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 -Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov. 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes”.

33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD – all relatively young; they all knew intimately of Clinton’s sexual escapades;

35 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

36 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds

37 - Sgt. Brian Hanley

38 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

39 - Major General William Robertson

40 - Col. William Densberger

41 - Col. Robert Kelly

42 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

43 - Steve Willis

44 - Robert Williams

45 - Conway LeBleu

46 - Todd McKeehan.

Quite an impressive list of “unexpected early deaths”! Pass this on and let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons – when
they become “unreliable”!

含笑的猫 发表于 6/30/2016 9:37:08 PM

满手鲜血啊
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奥地利大选左逼作弊,要重新投票。左逼真是无耻啊,不能不防啊。原本是49.7%对50.3%,动一点儿手脚就能左右大选结果。