【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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cherubtessie
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怎么根本不能convince我ISIS没有恐怖袭击美国的capacity?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/politics/isis-us-threat-paris-attacks/index.html

By Michelle Kosinski, CNN

Updated 11:55 AM ET, Sun November 15, 2015

White House: ISIS has ambition for U.S. attack, but likely lacks capability

Antalya, Turkey (CNN)President Barack Obama's national security team is sending a message Sunday that might lend at least a glimmer of reassurance to Americans traumatized by the terror attacks in Paris.

Saying that while the ISIS ambition is certainly there to launch similar attacks on U.S. shores, the capability is not great.

Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters that one big difference between the situation in Europe and that in the U.S. is that "thousands" of fighters have traveled to Syria and then returned to Europe. That number being tracked in America is far smaller-- around 40, according to the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper earlier this year.

Clapper added that not all of those ISIS joiners were necessarily fighting -- some might have served other roles for the terrorist group, such as first aid -- and he knew of no terrorist plots that any of those returning have been involved in once back in the U.S.

Rhodes said that ISIS has found more utility in trying to recruit or motivate sympathizers in America online, from abroad.

A top FBI counterterrorism official told Congress this year that "hundreds, maybe thousands" of people in the U.S. follow ISIS online. And this year alone, at least 49 alleged ISIS "supporters" in America have been charged with related crimes. The largest number of those were in New York.

An ISIS-inspired plot in Garland, Texas, in May, in which two men with body armor and assault rifles opened fire outside an art contest in which participants drew pictures of the prophet Mohammed, was thwarted by a security officer who shot and killed both suspects.

The FBI had been watching one of the suspects' online activity referencing the contest, and had warned police in Garland hours before the attack, though officials didn't know he was planning an attack, and weren't closely monitoring his physical whereabouts.

Following that attack, intelligence officials have said they are now doing more monitoring of "hundreds" of suspected ISIS supporters.

Rhodes emphasized Sunday there is currently "no specific, credible threat" of an attack being planned in the U.S., but vigilance among law enforcement is high.
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:30:39 AM
呵呵,估计要被打脸,还没对战就低估对方,这不激将法嘛,人家分分钟花式打脸
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cindyzz328
3902 楼
现在他们都几乎是以两周的频率搞袭击了,看了下会不会是感恩节啊?而且大城市人口多肯定是主要攻击目的,如果当地还有什么活动的话

  cherubtessie 发表于 11/16/2015 12:33:07 AM
可是按照圣母的理论,如果取消这些大型活动 就是示弱, 必须继续。。。此题无解。
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brookhaven
3903 楼
可是按照圣母的理论,如果取消这些大型活动 就是示弱, 必须继续。。。此题无解。

  cindyzz328 发表于 11/16/2015 12:38:08 AM
那随圣母去吧。 圣母永远都是对的。
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luckyso
3904 楼
怎么根本不能convince我ISIS没有恐怖袭击美国的capacity?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/politics/isis-us-threat-paris-attacks/index.html

By Michelle Kosinski, CNN

Updated 11:55 AM ET, Sun November 15, 2015

White House: ISIS has ambition for U.S. attack, but likely lacks capability

Antalya, Turkey (CNN)President Barack Obama's national security team is sending a message Sunday that might lend at least a glimmer of reassurance to Americans traumatized by the terror attacks in Paris.

Saying that while the ISIS ambition is certainly there to launch similar attacks on U.S. shores, the capability is not great.

Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters that one big difference between the situation in Europe and that in the U.S. is that "thousands" of fighters have traveled to Syria and then returned to Europe. That number being tracked in America is far smaller-- around 40, according to the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper earlier this year.

Clapper added that not all of those ISIS joiners were necessarily fighting -- some might have served other roles for the terrorist group, such as first aid -- and he knew of no terrorist plots that any of those returning have been involved in once back in the U.S.

Rhodes said that ISIS has found more utility in trying to recruit or motivate sympathizers in America online, from abroad.

A top FBI counterterrorism official told Congress this year that "hundreds, maybe thousands" of people in the U.S. follow ISIS online. And this year alone, at least 49 alleged ISIS "supporters" in America have been charged with related crimes. The largest number of those were in New York.

An ISIS-inspired plot in Garland, Texas, in May, in which two men with body armor and assault rifles opened fire outside an art contest in which participants drew pictures of the prophet Mohammed, was thwarted by a security officer who shot and killed both suspects.

The FBI had been watching one of the suspects' online activity referencing the contest, and had warned police in Garland hours before the attack, though officials didn't know he was planning an attack, and weren't closely monitoring his physical whereabouts.

Following that attack, intelligence officials have said they are now doing more monitoring of "hundreds" of suspected ISIS supporters.

Rhodes emphasized Sunday there is currently "no specific, credible threat" of an attack being planned in the U.S., but vigilance among law enforcement is high.
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:30:39 AM
"ISIS has ambition for U.S. attack, but likely lacks capability" 这个新闻当时发FB上发时,点赞最多的一个评论是:“The only one lacks capability is Obama."
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PositiveVibe
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那随圣母去吧。 圣母永远都是对的。

  brookhaven 发表于 11/16/2015 12:40:32 AM

圣母愿意被爆头,就随她们去吧,正好看看脑子是怎么长的
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brookhaven
3906 楼
"ISIS has ambition for U.S. attack, but likely lacks capability" 这个新闻当时发FB上发时,点赞最多的一个评论是:“The only one lacks capability is Obama."

  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 12:42:46 AM
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PositiveVibe
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  brookhaven 发表于 11/16/2015 12:44:15 AM

就像把俄国飞机炸下来的时候,还说ISIS没有这个能力,因为飞机在高空30,000 ft,ISIS根本没有能打到这个高度的装备,可是人家才不会那么麻烦,搞个炸弹足够了
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PositiveVibe
3909 楼
The French interior minister says he's going to start the "dissolution of mosques where hate is preached."
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brookhaven
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The French interior minister says he's going to start the "dissolution of mosques where hate is preached."
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 1:56:28 AM
   Finally, but I wonder how far he can move. 这时候突然就不要政治正确了? 脑残圣母们肯会为难他。
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Dohremi
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The French interior minister says he's going to start the "dissolution of mosques where hate is preached."
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 1:56:28 AM
完蛋喽,这就上升到宗教自由了,法国想打圣战吗?国内几百万绿绿要造反的呀。
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brookhaven
3912 楼
这是我看到的对FRENCH INTERIORMISTOR 的评论

“Can we adopted the French extremeist speech policy here and use to export republicans that preach hate?”

“It would be a headache to deport a few thousand old, uneducated, southern, white men; let them die out quietly.  When they're all gone, I'll show you an honest civil war reinactment (plus a Jim Crow reinactment, followed by a Jim Crow two-point-oh reinactment).”

这些人怎么会被洗脑的这么严重???DEMOCRATIC 才是PREACH HATE 的人。。
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PositiveVibe
3913 楼
President Obama on U.S. accepting refugees: "Slamming our door in their faces would be a betrayal of our values."
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PositiveVibe
3914 楼
ALERT: President Obama says it would be a mistake to send U.S. troops into ground war against
Islamic State.  https://t.co/LSVa0BNglf
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peacelily921
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The French interior minister says he's going to start the "dissolution of mosques where hate is preached."
    PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 1:56:28 AM

这就剥夺了人家的宗教信仰自由,人权呢,普世呢,msl答应么?
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PositiveVibe
3916 楼
Obama on #ISIS strategy: "It's best that we don't shoot first and aim later." https://t.co/2q8OEjO7Lc
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PositiveVibe
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Obama: “The overwhelming majority of victims of ISIL are themselves Muslims. ISIL does not represent Islam.” https://t.co/Kbw1rjwbpP

O8从来不叫ISIS,而叫ISIL
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luckyso
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Obama: “The overwhelming majority of victims of ISIL are themselves Muslims. ISIL does not represent Islam.” https://t.co/Kbw1rjwbpP

O8从来不叫ISIS,而叫ISIL
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 10:46:21 AM
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有什么区别吗?
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luckyso
3919 楼
French Pres. Hollande wants new law to strip citizenship from terrorists.
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Dohremi
3920 楼
取消国籍好啊,可以随便上刑了。反正没有公民权了。
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monmon
3921 楼
这次巴黎恐袭似乎改变了好多人的立场, 那些中立的媒体偏向要打,只有08还是坚守立场。
依然笑眯眯
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这次巴黎恐袭似乎改变了好多人的立场, 那些中立的媒体偏向要打,只有08还是坚守立场。
  monmon 发表于 11/16/2015 11:41:29 AM
感觉O8就是为了ISIS潜伏在美国的一名卧底。。都不用ISIS亲自出马,估计美国就被O8搞烂了。。。。。
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luckyso
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感觉O8就是为了ISIS潜伏在美国的一名卧底。。都不用ISIS亲自出马,估计美国就被O8搞烂了。。。。。

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 11:45:04 AM
今早看O8讲话,他说如果有好办法,我们一定会做,我就在想, 你是lack of idea or lack of will? 当你无法信任你的总统说一句话的动机的时候,真是一件可怕的事情
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whyhere
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当年 尼克松 也就偷听一下 就是下台了, 那时候的人好单纯欧。
依然笑眯眯
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今早看O8讲话,他说如果有好办法,我们一定会做,我就在想, 你是lack of idea or lack of will? 当你无法信任你的总统说一句话的动机的时候,真是一件可怕的事情

  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 11:48:04 AM
真的,我从来没有对一个美国总统这么失望过。 以前小bush就算再烂,我觉得他至少有尝试过做些什么,现在的O8就是打嘴炮,满嘴遛火车。。。
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whyhere
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  美国可供袭击的目标太多了,我们这儿地铁都没安检的,而且大包小包随便往里带,人还特多,虽然事发在法国,怎么忽然很没安全感。我去找本可兰经读读的,说ISIS所尊呈的是最远古的教义。这些人袭击在时间上的选择都是有意义的,不是随便选的,看911,以及这次黑色周五(圣经上的大屠杀),我觉得与其死拼,应该好好研究一下这些人的动机,才能对症下药。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/15/2015 11:56:44 PM
   mm 研究出来什么的话, 发贴给大家 update 哟。

   南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
   南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
   南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
   BLESS America ! BLESS 大家平平安安!
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PositiveVibe
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有什么区别吗?

  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 11:13:10 AM
http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/09/15/why-obamas-use-of-the-term-isil-instead-of-isis-is-actually-really-important/

ISIL includes Levant, which includes the area we like to call Israel.

  大概的意思就是说O8眼里有以色列,而伊斯兰国眼里没以色列
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PositiveVibe
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这次巴黎恐袭似乎改变了好多人的立场, 那些中立的媒体偏向要打,只有08还是坚守立场。
   monmon 发表于 11/16/2015 11:41:29 AM

而且还要坚持释放关岛囚犯,刚放了5个也门的,还要坚持大幅度的接纳难民,它现在每做的一件事,都不是有利于美国大众以及基督徒的。
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PositiveVibe
3929 楼
真的,我从来没有对一个美国总统这么失望过。 以前小bush就算再烂,我觉得他至少有尝试过做些什么,现在的O8就是打嘴炮,满嘴遛火车。。。

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 11:51:05 AM

以前小布什,我还能看出一颗爱国的红心,虽然有点憨傻。
依然笑眯眯
3930 楼

  美国可供袭击的目标太多了,我们这儿地铁都没安检的,而且大包小包随便往里带,人还特多,虽然事发在法国,怎么忽然很没安全感。我去找本可兰经读读的,说ISIS所尊呈的是最远古的教义。这些人袭击在时间上的选择都是有意义的,不是随便选的,看911,以及这次黑色周五(圣经上的大屠杀),我觉得与其死拼,应该好好研究一下这些人的动机,才能对症下药。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/15/2015 11:56:44 PM
下一次恐怖袭击会不会就在下周五啊?虽然不是传统意义上的黑五。。。或者感恩节圣诞节之类的大型节日。感觉ISIS挺针对这些西方宗教的“特别日子”。。。。原版可兰经是不是网上就能下载?我也去研究研究。。
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PositiveVibe
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下一次恐怖袭击会不会就在下周五啊?虽然不是传统意义上的黑五。。。或者感恩节圣诞节之类的大型节日。感觉ISIS挺针对这些西方宗教的“特别日子”。。。。原版可兰经是不是网上就能下载?我也去研究研究。。
  


  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 12:00:46 PM

我觉得很可能啊,感恩节,圣诞节,新年的时候,人群聚集的最佳时期
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PositiveVibe
3932 楼
下一次恐怖袭击会不会就在下周五啊?虽然不是传统意义上的黑五。。。或者感恩节圣诞节之类的大型节日。感觉ISIS挺针对这些西方宗教的“特别日子”。。。。原版可兰经是不是网上就能下载?我也去研究研究。。
  


  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 12:00:46 PM

http://islamhouse.com/zh/books/46352/
依然笑眯眯
3933 楼

   http://islamhouse.com/zh/books/46352/
  
   PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:07:14 PM

非常abstract!!!感觉各种open to interpretation。
”不过那个准备火狱,用人和石头做燃料,已为不信教的人们准备好了“(page15),这个赤裸裸活生生的例子啊。。。
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ronyning
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大家小心点好了!Isis发录像,声明发生在法国的就会发生在美国华盛顿!加上马上感恩节黑色星期五!大家小心点没错!
媒体现在有点批评o8 的记者问!太娘们了!就这样还要当老大呢!也就Msnbc还在奥巴一边!现在媒体都反应过来了,难民原来不都是好人!
几个州长说不,真好!这个世界要几个敢说不的人才好!左派怎不知道怎么想的!包头对同性恋,吸大麻,几乎是赶紧杀绝呀!还不如一般移民!这么大肆引进!脑子在想什么!
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luckyso
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  以前小布什,我还能看出一颗爱国的红心,虽然有点憨傻。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 11:59:46 AM
他在911废墟上的那一刻还是很经典的,能真切的感觉出他爱国。希拉里昨天还用911解释为啥华尔街给她捐钱,我好想抽她
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luckyso
3936 楼

  我觉得很可能啊,感恩节,圣诞节,新年的时候,人群聚集的最佳时期

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:01:59 PM
圣诞节那天好多地方不开门,不过也难说。只有把他们隔绝,不让进来是良策,进来了再防守十分困难
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Dohremi
3937 楼
圣诞节大家都在电影院和教堂啊。
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whyhere
3938 楼
我等草民恳请老天爷批准 TRUMP  立马上台。
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SDSPAGE
3939 楼
我等草民恳请老天爷批准 TRUMP  立马上台。
whyhere 发表于 11/16/2015 12:35:55 PM
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PositiveVibe
3940 楼
自从今早O8在G20峰会上发表对巴黎恐袭的讲话以后,好多媒体的态度是,你要么lead us要么resign。
依然笑眯眯
3941 楼
自从今早O8在G20峰会上发表对巴黎恐袭的讲话以后,好多媒体的态度是,你要么lead us要么resign。
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:41:19 PM
我记得最后一个办法好像可以impeach总统来着,是要2/3 Senators通过对吗?
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cindyzz328
3942 楼
我等草民恳请老天爷批准 TRUMP  立马上台。
  whyhere 发表于 11/16/2015 12:35:55 PM
复议~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!
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PositiveVibe
3943 楼
我等草民恳请老天爷批准 TRUMP  立马上台。
  whyhere 发表于 11/16/2015 12:35:55 PM

强re!
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bodysoul
3944 楼
Obama is such a coward without any gut.
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ronyning
3945 楼
可不是!最后奥巴说一句话差点没吐血!和记者说,我都说好多遍了,你让我怎么办?!CNN的主持😓!想说好话也没有!还说!难民不是恐怖分子,要接纳的!妈的!但难民里有恐怖分子事实!你不查就收,不是找死吗!
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ronyning
3946 楼
昨天一个同事左的可以!说收难民,有多少收多少!我说慢慢来要调查!人家一瞪眼说,政府敢收这么多,一定都调查完了,你不知道罢了!还当你面差呀!你以为你是谁!我靠!那自信!那白痴!真是觉得傻到家了!
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PositiveVibe
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我记得最后一个办法好像可以impeach总统来着,是要2/3 Senators通过对吗?

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 12:46:56 PM
居然找到个签名要O8下台的网站。
http://www.pledgetoimpeach.com/

弹劾总统程序:

In essence, the House first decides if there are grounds to impeach the president, and if it does, the Senate holds a formal impeachment trial. In the House of Representatives
The House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to proceed with impeachment. If they do...

The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.
        
Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another Resolution to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why (the Articles of Impeachment), or that impeachment is not called for.

The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.

Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be "impeached." However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.
    
        In the Senate
The Articles of Impeachment are received from the House.
The Senate formulates rules and procedures for holding a trial.

A trial will be held. The President will be represented by his lawyers. A select group of House members will serve as "prosecutors." The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (currently John G. Roberts) will preside with all 100 Senators acting as the jury.

The Senate will meet in private session to debate a verdict.

The Senate, in open session, will vote on a verdict. A 2/3 vote of the Senate will result in a conviction.

The Senate will vote to remove the President from office.

The Senate may also vote (by a simple majority) to prohibit the President from holding any public office in the future.

不过现在senators,R是54个,D是45个,还有一个I的,能达到2/3的要求么。
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cindyzz328
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  非常abstract!!!感觉各种open to interpretation。
  ”不过那个准备火狱,用人和石头做燃料,已为不信教的人们准备好了“(page15),这个赤裸裸活生生的例子啊。。。
  

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 12:21:24 P



。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。请问蓝州会不会举行游行。。。。要去参加。。。。
想起那个被石头砸死的人质了。。。。
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luckyso
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第一个拒绝难民的蓝州出来了:麻省。州长是共和党的。估计最后就剩下一堆州长也是民主党的蓝州收了。。。
依然笑眯眯
3950 楼
居然找到个签名要O8下台的网站。
   http://www.pledgetoimpeach.com/
  
   弹劾总统程序:
  
   In essence, the House first decides if there are grounds to impeach the president, and if it does, the Senate holds a formal impeachment trial. In the House of Representatives
The House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to proceed with impeachment. If they do...

The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.
                
Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another Resolution to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why (the Articles of Impeachment), or that impeachment is not called for.

The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.

Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be "impeached." However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.
        
                  In the Senate
The Articles of Impeachment are received from the House.
The Senate formulates rules and procedures for holding a trial.

A trial will be held. The President will be represented by his lawyers. A select group of House members will serve as "prosecutors." The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (currently John G. Roberts) will preside with all 100 Senators acting as the jury.

The Senate will meet in private session to debate a verdict.

The Senate, in open session, will vote on a verdict. A 2/3 vote of the Senate will result in a conviction.

The Senate will vote to remove the President from office.

The Senate may also vote (by a simple majority) to prohibit the President from holding any public office in the future.

   不过现在senators,R是54个,D是45个,还有一个I的,能达到2/3的要求么。
  
   PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:55:42 PM

我瞄了下那个case for impeachment of Barack Obama,article 5,6,8都非常符合啊!!
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happy3001
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昨天一个同事左的可以!说收难民,有多少收多少!我说慢慢来要调查!人家一瞪眼说,政府敢收这么多,一定都调查完了,你不知道罢了!还当你面差呀!你以为你是谁!我靠!那自信!那白痴!真是觉得傻到家了!
  ronyning 发表于 11/16/2015 12:55:39 PM
还好我身边都是非常保守的美国人,遇到这种傻叉我真有打他脸的冲动,脑子都被洗成肠子了。
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luckyso
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我瞄了下那个case for impeachment of Barack Obama,article 5 非常符合啊!!

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 1:13:36 PM
Article 6也符合。每条都很符合
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PositiveVibe
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  我瞄了下那个case for impeachment of Barack Obama,article 5,6,8都非常符合啊!!
  

  依然笑眯眯 发表于 11/16/2015 1:13:36 PM

我签了那个请愿弹劾总统的网站了,不知道管啥用。
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ceciliaring
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居然找到个签名要O8下台的网站。
http://www.pledgetoimpeach.com/

弹劾总统程序:

In essence, the House first decides if there are grounds to impeach the president, and if it does, the Senate holds a formal impeachment trial. In the House of Representatives
The House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to proceed with impeachment. If they do...

The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.
        
Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another Resolution to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why (the Articles of Impeachment), or that impeachment is not called for.

The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.

Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be "impeached." However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.
    
        In the Senate
The Articles of Impeachment are received from the House.
The Senate formulates rules and procedures for holding a trial.

A trial will be held. The President will be represented by his lawyers. A select group of House members will serve as "prosecutors." The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (currently John G. Roberts) will preside with all 100 Senators acting as the jury.

The Senate will meet in private session to debate a verdict.

The Senate, in open session, will vote on a verdict. A 2/3 vote of the Senate will result in a conviction.

The Senate will vote to remove the President from office.

The Senate may also vote (by a simple majority) to prohibit the President from holding any public office in the future.

不过现在senators,R是54个,D是45个,还有一个I的,能达到2/3的要求么。

PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:55:42 PM

马克。下班去签。
依然笑眯眯
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  我签了那个请愿弹劾总统的网站了,不知道管啥用。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 1:31:27 PM
我也签了,虽然也不知道有没有用。
唐伯虎点蚊香
3956 楼
今天就签
o8恶心死人
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luckyso
3957 楼
今天FB上个top comment: After I listened to what Obama said in the summit, I want Air Force One to take off immediately and leave O8 in Turkey.
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luckyso
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Dartmouth College: Black Lives Matter Protest on Campus Breaks Out Into Violence, Report Says
Black Lives Matter protesters on Thursday shouted racial statements and physically pushed others at the New Hampshire college's library, according to The Dartmouth Review.
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ronyning
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Dartmouth College: Black Lives Matter Protest on Campus Breaks Out Into Violence, Report Says
Black Lives Matter protesters on Thursday shouted racial statements and physically pushed others at the New Hampshire college's library, according to The Dartmouth Review.
  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 2:49:16 PM


哈哈,终于没停住,恐怖袭击,搞得媒体根本不报道他们了,他们在不闹点事情,大家就把它们忘了。
依然笑眯眯
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今天FB上个top comment: After I listened to what Obama said in the summit, I want Air Force One to take off immediately and leave O8 in Turkey.
  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 2:48:10 PM
哈哈哈哈哈我也想!或者直接把O8丢到他兄弟那!我猜他在Rappa生活得应该会很不错!
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luckyso
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There are currently 31 Republicans, 18 Democrats, and one independent that hold the office of governor in the states.
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drspurple
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第一个拒绝难民的蓝州出来了:麻省。州长是共和党的。估计最后就剩下一堆州长也是民主党的蓝州收了。。。
  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 1:08:47 PM
好的。缅因也不会收的。其实NH 一群北方红脖,不知为何选了个民主党背景的州长。
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luckyso
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http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/islamic-state-terrorist-attack-proves-donald-trump-was-right-about-border-and-immigration/

写得不错
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 5:59:13 PM
Next, always remember Trump wrote the book on negotiation. It’s called “The Art of the Deal.” Well his new book should be called “The Art of the Immigration Deal.” Will Trump ever get the chance to deport 12 to 15 million illegal aliens? Maybe not. But Trump understands this is all a negotiation. Just the threat of deporting millions of illegal aliens puts Trump in the drivers seat to get what he really wants.

其实Trump周一在Texas的演讲已经hint了,只要说要deport, 严查所有employer, 很多人自然会离开,一堆criminal先弄走,剩下的就没那么多了, 最后怎么样可以再看再谈,但你如果不说要deport所有,谁也不会走。一说到mass deportation一些GOP也跟着说impossible, 实在无脑。
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goldengate
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Next, always remember Trump wrote the book on negotiation. It’s called “The Art of the Deal.” Well his new book should be called “The Art of the Immigration Deal.” Will Trump ever get the chance to deport 12 to 15 million illegal aliens? Maybe not. But Trump understands this is all a negotiation. Just the threat of deporting millions of illegal aliens puts Trump in the drivers seat to get what he really wants.
  
其实Trump周一在Texas的演讲已经hint了,只要说要deport, 严查所有employer, 很多人自然会离开,一堆criminal先弄走,剩下的就没那么多了, 最后怎么样可以再看再谈,但你如果不说要deport所有,谁也不会走。一说到mass deportation一些GOP也跟着说impossible, 实在无脑。


  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 6:34:20 PM
真是挺做鸡的,不跟他们讲他们不懂,讲清楚了也就什么都无效了。
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cherubtessie
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居然找到个签名要O8下台的网站。
  http://www.pledgetoimpeach.com/
  
  弹劾总统程序:
  
   In essence, the House first decides if there are grounds to impeach the president, and if it does, the Senate holds a formal impeachment trial. In the House of Representatives
The House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to proceed with impeachment. If they do...

The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.
                
Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another Resolution to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why (the Articles of Impeachment), or that impeachment is not called for.

The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.

Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be "impeached." However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.
        
                 In the Senate
The Articles of Impeachment are received from the House.
The Senate formulates rules and procedures for holding a trial.

A trial will be held. The President will be represented by his lawyers. A select group of House members will serve as "prosecutors." The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (currently John G. Roberts) will preside with all 100 Senators acting as the jury.

The Senate will meet in private session to debate a verdict.

The Senate, in open session, will vote on a verdict. A 2/3 vote of the Senate will result in a conviction.

The Senate will vote to remove the President from office.

The Senate may also vote (by a simple majority) to prohibit the President from holding any public office in the future.

  不过现在senators,R是54个,D是45个,还有一个I的,能达到2/3的要求么。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 12:55:42 PM
我想起以前克林顿因为搞了个莱温斯基就被弹劾,现在想想这些事,尼玛,小布什和o8都够弹劾七八十回了,真是搞不懂现在的美帝政治
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luckyso
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真是挺做鸡的,不跟他们讲他们不懂,讲清楚了也就什么都无效了。

  goldengate 发表于 11/16/2015 6:38:27 PM
美国的选举制度都把人弄傻啦,要干个啥得大喇叭广播,所有人都按字面意思乱分析一气,只分析“事”,不分析“人”,幼稚得很
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cherubtessie
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Next, always remember Trump wrote the book on negotiation. It’s called “The Art of the Deal.” Well his new book should be called “The Art of the Immigration Deal.” Will Trump ever get the chance to deport 12 to 15 million illegal aliens? Maybe not. But Trump understands this is all a negotiation. Just the threat of deporting millions of illegal aliens puts Trump in the drivers seat to get what he really wants.
  
其实Trump周一在Texas的演讲已经hint了,只要说要deport, 严查所有employer, 很多人自然会离开,一堆criminal先弄走,剩下的就没那么多了, 最后怎么样可以再看再谈,但你如果不说要deport所有,谁也不会走。一说到mass deportation一些GOP也跟着说impossible, 实在无脑。


  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 6:34:20 PM

trump对非移和移民的了解比那些什么律师医生政客出身的深刻多了,他也知道怎么才是有效的解决之道
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cherubtessie
3969 楼
美国的选举制度都把人弄傻啦,要干个啥得大喇叭广播,所有人都按字面意思乱分析一气,只分析“事”,不分析“人”,幼稚得很

  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 6:54:54 PM

关键是他们的教育,其实是很反智的,教育就天天谈leadership,不脚踏实地,现在这样的教育把问题都凸现出来了
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luckyso
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  关键是他们的教育,其实是很反智的,教育就天天谈leadership,不脚踏实地,现在这样的教育把问题都凸现出来了

  cherubtessie 发表于 11/16/2015 6:58:41 PM
leadership也就罢了,天天是那些liberal thoughts洗脑才可怕,变得越来越愚蠢
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PositiveVibe
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Obama: Get the facts on important issues like climate change—join the OFA Truth Team: https://t.co/ounOuTRFqA

OMG,这节骨眼儿上O8还在推销climate change,而且还要显得更重要,它是不是得了失心病了
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luckyso
3972 楼
Obama: Get the facts on important issues like climate change—join the OFA Truth Team: https://t.co/ounOuTRFqA

OMG,这节骨眼儿上O8还在推销climate change,而且还要显得更重要,它是不是得了失心病了
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 7:16:53 PM
Meteorologist in chief
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PositiveVibe
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Meteorologist in chief

  luckyso 发表于 11/16/2015 7:31:57 PM

按Sanders的看法,climate change和terrorism是紧密关联的,怎么关联?
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BlueNDGold
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Obama: Get the facts on important issues like climate change—join the OFA Truth Team: https://t.co/ounOuTRFqA

OMG,这节骨眼儿上O8还在推销climate change,而且还要显得更重要,它是不是得了失心病了
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 7:16:53 PM
Theoretically speaking, climate change is a much bigger problem than terrorism.  The number of lives threatened by climate change is much, much greater.
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PositiveVibe
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Theoretically speaking, climate change is a much bigger problem than terrorism.  The number of lives threatened by climate change is much, much greater.
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 8:00:53 PM

都被恐怖分子杀光了,还担心lives被什么climate change威胁?!
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luckyso
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Theoretically speaking, climate change is a much bigger problem than terrorism.  The number of lives threatened by climate change is much, much greater.
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 8:00:53 PM
小声点,你也就在这说说,出去说非被拍死不可。climate change也许影响很大,但估计人类还没被影响到就已经被绿教灭绝了,so。。。
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BlueNDGold
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  都被恐怖分子杀光了,还担心lives被什么climate change威胁?!

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 8:12:09 PM
都被恐怖份子杀了? 你也太看的起恐怖份子了。

恐怖组织从2006-2014年总共杀了不到17万人。

http://www.statista.com/statistics/202871/number-of-fatalities-by-terrorist-attacks-worldwide/

WHO 预测从2030-2050年,climate change 每年会导致250,000人死亡。

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs266/en/
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cindyzz328
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  按Sanders的看法,climate change和terrorism是紧密关联的,怎么关联?

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 7:58:29 PM
可能叙利亚人民觉得气候变化是影响他们生活质量的主要原因,气候不变暖他们的主不会派ISIS下来?
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PositiveVibe
3979 楼
都被恐怖份子杀了? 你也太看的起恐怖份子了。
  
  恐怖组织从2006-2014年总共杀了不到17万人。
  
  http://www.statista.com/statistics/202871/number-of-fatalities-by-terrorist-attacks-worldwide/
  
  WHO 预测从2030-2050年,climate change 每年会导致250,000人死亡。
  
  http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs266/en/
  
  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 8:23:55 PM

那由于climate change,从2006到2014年死了多少?
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BlueNDGold
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可能叙利亚人民觉得气候变化是影响他们生活质量的主要原因,气候不变暖他们的主不会派ISIS下来?

  cindyzz328 发表于 11/16/2015 8:24:08 PM
Sanders 的话等于是把别人的话放大N倍。

Climate change 导致了很多局部的干旱状况,减少了可饮用的水源,可耕种的田地,以及其他自然资源。为了争抢剩下的资源而导致了更多的摩擦。好比Boko Haram在非洲崛起就跟这种现象有关。

别人总结的是climate change间接的导致了terrorism的扩广,到了Sanders这里就成了直接的因果关系了。
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BlueNDGold
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  那由于climate change,从2006到2014年死了多少?

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 8:33:51 PM

你是打算不见棺材不掉泪么?等每年死25万人的时候才开始重视climate change能一下子就解决问题么?
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PositiveVibe
3982 楼

  你是打算不见棺材不掉泪么?等每年死25万人的时候才开始重视climate change能一下子就解决问题么?
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 8:40:58 PM

2030年前还剩多少人类没被恐怖分子灭绝?
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BlueNDGold
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  2030年前还剩多少人类没被恐怖分子灭绝?

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 8:43:52 PM
绝对多于7.3 billion。
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PositiveVibe
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/16/politics/syrian-refugees-u-s-applicants-explainer/index.html?sr=twCNN111715syrian-refugees-u-s-applicants-explainer/0134AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=18804312

里面有审查叙利亚难民流程以及方法。
自从2011年叙利亚内战以来,来美的叙利亚难民共2200个,分部在36个州。
我怎么觉得还是很多漏洞呢?
晓月繁星
3985 楼
都被恐怖份子杀了? 你也太看的起恐怖份子了。

恐怖组织从2006-2014年总共杀了不到17万人。

http://www.statista.com/statistics/202871/number-of-fatalities-by-terrorist-attacks-worldwide/

WHO 预测从2030-2050年,climate change 每年会导致250,000人死亡。

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs266/en/

BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 8:23:55 PM

你拿预测的数据跟已发生的数据比,真会比。恐怖分子发起的是战争,人类社会最大的杀手就是战争,历史上绝大多数非正常死亡除了疾病就是战争。还有climate 不可能不change, 这个世界没有人类,climate 也是要change 的。不然恐龙现在还在,有人类什么事。另外你还要看人类影响里面贡献了多少。人类活动的确有影响,正面的消除负面的,就算还有负面影响好了,这个影响是全体人类一起承担,跟恐怖分子有目标性的杀戮能依样么?
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PositiveVibe
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绝对多于7.3 billion。
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 9:16:30 PM
2030年以后就没恐怖袭击了?
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BlueNDGold
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  你拿预测的数据跟已发生的数据比,真会比。恐怖分子发起的是战争,人类社会最大的杀手就是战争,历史上绝大多数非正常死亡除了疾病就是战争。还有climate 不可能不change, 这个世界没有人类,climate 也是要change 的。不然恐龙现在还在,有人类什么事。另外你还要看人类影响里面贡献了多少。人类活动的确有影响,正面的消除负面的,就算还有负面影响好了,这个影响是全体人类一起承担,跟恐怖分子有目标性的杀戮能依样么?

  晓月繁星 发表于 11/16/2015 9:23:35 PM
跟恐怖份子比较是要比较影响力。

除非恐怖份子掌握了核武器,要不然他们的杀伤力虽然可观,但相对来说还是有限的。除了楼上的那几位,你能找出几个人认为恐怖份子到2030年能达到每年杀死25万人的杀伤力?
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BlueNDGold
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2030年以后就没恐怖袭击了?
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/16/2015 9:26:06 PM
这是什么意思?

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whyhere
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大家何必费劲辩。
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BlueNDGold
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大家何必费劲辩。
  whyhere 发表于 11/16/2015 9:51:56 PM
有时间就聊,没时间就不聊。
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goldengate
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跟恐怖份子比较是要比较影响力。
  
  除非恐怖份子掌握了核武器,要不然他们的杀伤力虽然可观,但相对来说还是有限的。除了楼上的那几位,你能找出几个人认为恐怖份子到2030年能达到每年杀死25万人的杀伤力?
  
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 9:43:16 PM
恐怖分子能杀的也许不多,但是造成的影响巨大。杀了一百多人,就让西方国家的人口都受到了影响,各国要投入的人力金钱反恐真有人算的话也是非常大的数字。你说恐怖分子直接杀死的数字不大(用的是直接死亡),直接忽略了其全球性广泛的负面影响,另一方面你却又笼统的计算气候变化带来的死亡 (非直接死亡),后者往往是跟其他因素(例如家族基因,生活习惯等等)一起起作用,是间接性的死亡。真正每年因为自然灾害或者空气污染直接死亡的人数,少之又少。这个对比本身就很不科学。人类活动带来气候变化好歹一方面促进了经济发展,人类从中也得到了物质财富。恐怖分子的活动对谁也没有好处,除了极端主义穆斯林
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BlueNDGold
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恐怖分子能杀的也许不多,但是造成的影响巨大。杀了一百多人,就让西方国家的人口都受到了影响,各国要投入的人力金钱反恐真有人算的话也是非常大的数字。你说恐怖分子直接杀死的数字不大(用的是直接死亡),直接忽略了其全球性广泛的负面影响,另一方面你却又笼统的计算气候变化带来的死亡 (非直接死亡),后者往往是跟其他因素(例如家族基因,生活习惯等等)一起起作用,是间接性的死亡。真正每年因为自然灾害或者空气污染直接死亡的人数,少之又少。这个对比本身就很不科学。人类活动带来气候变化好歹一方面促进了经济发展,人类从中也得到了物质财富。恐怖分子的活动对谁也没有好处,除了极端主义穆斯林

  goldengate 发表于 11/16/2015 10:11:43 PM
中国也面临恐怖份子造成的危害。你认为在解决这个问题之前就不应该重视环保么?
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PositiveVibe
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喵了个咪,猫都上去了
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luckyso
3994 楼
中国也面临恐怖份子造成的危害。你认为在解决这个问题之前就不应该重视环保么?
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 11:01:43 PM
环保和climate change不同。Clean air, clean water是必须的
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luckyso
3995 楼
谁知道Carson今天又惹了啥事?FB上热点?
Ben Carson: GOP Presidential Candidate Says Terri Schiavo Case Was 'Much Ado About Nothing'
"I don't believe in euthanasia" but "I don't think it needed to get to that level," Carson said about Schiavo, whose parents were involved in a legal battle over removing her feeding tube.
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goldengate
3996 楼
中国也面临恐怖份子造成的危害。你认为在解决这个问题之前就不应该重视环保么?
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 11/16/2015 11:01:43 PM
这是那更哪,反恐也可以同时环保啊,又不是非此则彼。大部分国家都应该能兼顾两样。更别说发达国家和中国这样的次发达大国了。
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Dohremi
3997 楼
这是那更哪,反恐也可以同时环保啊,又不是非此则彼。大部分国家都应该能兼顾两样。更别说发达国家和中国这样的次发达大国了。

  goldengate 发表于 11/17/2015 12:48:48 AM
支持。占用的资源又不冲突。
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PositiveVibe
3998 楼
Russia: Plane brought down by homemade explosive device https://t.co/e1IfIbNMY6
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whyhere
3999 楼
Russia: Plane brought down by homemade explosive device https://t.co/e1IfIbNMY6
  PositiveVibe 发表于 11/17/2015 5:07:01 AM
  homemade!!!!!
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PositiveVibe
4000 楼
我要是知道是谁把俄国飞机炸下来的就好啦,可以挣$50 million