【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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xiang2010
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这个不错
  
  
   Colorado1, Wyoming1
   Delegates in Colorado are selected through a process that starts with the March 1st caucuses and culminates at the state convention on April 9th. Colorado Delegates can go to the national convention as unbound or bound to a candidate. The Wyoming precinct caucuses on March 1st do not bind any delegates, but they start a delegate selection process that culminates at the state convention on April 14-16. Delegates from Wyoming can be bound or unbound.
   Open**
   Republicans and Independents can vote in these primaries, but Democrats can't.
   * — Threshold
   Candidates have to reach a certain level of support to earn delegates
   10% threshold: New Hampshire, Minnesota, Kansas, Maine, Rhode Island
   20% threshold: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Idaho, New York, Connecticut, Washington
   15% threshold: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Mississippi, District of Columbia, Utah, New Mexico
   5% threshold: Massachusetts, Kentucky
   13% threshold: Alaska
   # — Ceiling
   Candidates can win all at-large or all delegates by surpassing a certain level of support.
   The ceiling is 50 percent in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah and Connecticut.
   The ceiling is 66 percent in Tennessee.
   The ceiling is 85 percent in Minnesota.
   If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee or Texas, he or she earns all the at-large delegates from the state.
   If a candidate reaches the ceiling in Georgia, Minnesota, Vermont, Maine, Puerto Rico, Idaho, Michigan, Utah or Connecticut, he or she earns all the at-large and congressional district delegates from the state.
   Arkansas: every candidate who gets over 15 percent gets one at-large delegate. If no candidate gets over 50 percent, the remaining delegates are allocated proportionally among those who get over 15 percent. If a candidate gets over 50 percent, he or she gets the remaining at-large delegates.
   ▽ — Congressional District Delegates
   Congressional district delegates are allocated according to results in that district rather than statewide. The rules are the same for the at-large and congressional delegates (e.g. same floor, same ceiling, proportional or WTA, etc.) in most states. Here are the states in which they differ significantly and the ways in which they differ:
   Arkansas — the congressional district delegates are allocated proportionally with no threshold, unless a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in that district. In that case they get all three delegates.
   Georgia and Minnesota — There's no ceiling in the congressional districts.
   Louisiana — There's no threshold in the congressional districts.
   Mississippi — There's not threshold in the congressional districts and if a candidate gets over 50 percent of the vote in a district, he or she gets all the delegates from that district.
   Illinois and Pennsylvania — at-large delegates are WTA by statewide vote, but congressional district delegates are elected directly.
   Missouri — Nine at-large delegates are allocated to the statewide winner, and five delegates are allocated to the winner of each congressional district. If a candidate gets over 50 percent he or she gets all the delegates.
   Connecticut — Plurality winner in each congressional district gets all three delegates.
   Rhode Island — If three candidates get over 10 percent in a congressional district, they each get one delegate. If any candidate gets over 67 percent in a district, they get all three delegates.
  
  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 1:55:52 PM
真好,一目了然。
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dingdingdddd
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目前Trump总代表数为458个(有些地区还没有最后点票完成,最终代表数可能有点小出入),比我之前在另一个回答里预计的450个还稍好一些。
展望未来,周六的华盛顿特区选举(19个代表)都无关紧要。
下周二的俄亥俄和佛罗里达是重点,此时有四种情况,我们来推演一下:
(1)Trump两州都拿下(目前看来是这是最有可能的情况)。那就基本锁定胜局。
因为这种情况下他的代表数应该在700个左右,领先第二名Cruz 300个以上,再考虑到Kasich此时会退选,他的支持者分流给Trump。最终Trump应该能拿到大于1237个代表。
(2) 只拿下佛罗里达。这种情况下他的代表数大概在650个左右,领先第二名Cruz 200个代表。这种情况下Trump有可能最终只能拿到1100到1200个代表,不过半数,但是因为比第二名Cruz领先很多>300个,想必共和党高层也不敢冒天下之大不韪,强行换马。
(3)只拿下俄亥俄。这种情况可能性不大,即使发生和(2)的分析差不多,从略。
(4)佛罗里达和俄亥俄两者皆失。这是最糟糕的情况。首先是Contested Convention几乎不可避免,而且选出来的代表无论是谁都无法服众。此时不管Trump是否独立参选,共和党都会因为内部分裂输掉大选。当然建制派还有一根救命稻草就是Hillary因为邮件门一案被起诉,其实这种情况下Bernie Sanders以哀兵姿态上阵,民主党同仇敌忾,共和党只会输的更惨。不但输掉大选,而且很有可能输掉参议院多数。最高法院自由派的金斯堡大法官乘机宣布退休,新任民主党总统一举任命两个年富力强的自由派大法官(其中包括刚卸任的Obama),一举奠定未来三十年美国的政治格局。
从这个角度看,下周二佛罗里达的初选是一场决定美国未来命运的选举。因此对几则新闻加以分析:这两天就有传闻说Rubio的幕僚建议他在佛罗里达初选前退出,以免初选时惨败伤害他未来参选州长的机会,今天的两场惨败以后,恐怕Rubio需要慎重考虑这个选项了。目前他在佛罗里达排名第二,如果他退出的话,Trump的赢面应该是更大。
另一个因素是Bush家族的表态,Bush家族两代总统,共和党内第一豪门的位置恐怕没有人会质疑。而Jeb作为前佛州州长,虽然曾经被Trump百般羞辱,但是至今没有出来为Rubio背书,而是强调他会支持最终的共和党候选人即使他是Trump,这其中恐怕不是因为昔日小弟Rubio的冒犯伤害了他的感情,而是“相忍为党”的情怀起了作用。类似情况的还有前总统George W Bush,虽然Trump在辩论中批评了他的伊战决定和9/11恐怖袭击前后的表现,但是他没有公开反驳,或者为其他候选人背书,甚至在私人场合表达了对Cruz的不喜欢,这几乎可以说是对Trump的支持了。而最近Bush家老四Neil Bush对Cruz的支持,以及老夫人Barbara对Trump的批评,更像是他们不忿于亲人被羞辱而采取的私人行为,而非家族的正式表态。

作者:章威
链接:https://www.zhihu.com/question/41129580/answer/89896373
来源:知乎
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PositiveVibe
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赞,很清楚!
但是还是没有看懂怀俄明和科罗拉多是怎么回事,delegate自行选择不要投票的吗?
  jianzhiqi1234 发表于 3/9/2016 2:02:42 PM
我看那意思,unbound,不管大家民意是如何选的,最后进convention时,那个州到底选谁不是大众民意来决定的。

“To put it simply, bound delegates are "bound" by their state's choice in the primary or caucus process when the nominating convention rolls around. In other words, if a bound delegate is assigned to Donald Trump in one of the upcoming Super Tuesday primaries, that delegate will have to support Trump at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, this July. Pledged or unbound delegates, on the other hand, are only loosely committed to their state's preferences, though they often do tend to stick with those preferences. ”

http://www.bustle.com/articles/144624-what-is-a-bound-delegate-gop-rules-mean-their-votes-could-be-a-total-waste
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PositiveVibe
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目前Trump总代表数为458个(有些地区还没有最后点票完成,最终代表数可能有点小出入),比我之前在另一个回答里预计的450个还稍好一些。
展望未来,周六的华盛顿特区选举(19个代表)都无关紧要。
下周二的俄亥俄和佛罗里达是重点,此时有四种情况,我们来推演一下:
(1)Trump两州都拿下(目前看来是这是最有可能的情况)。那就基本锁定胜局。
因为这种情况下他的代表数应该在700个左右,领先第二名Cruz 300个以上,再考虑到Kasich此时会退选,他的支持者分流给Trump。最终Trump应该能拿到大于1237个代表。
(2) 只拿下佛罗里达。这种情况下他的代表数大概在650个左右,领先第二名Cruz 200个代表。这种情况下Trump有可能最终只能拿到1100到1200个代表,不过半数,但是因为比第二名Cruz领先很多>300个,想必共和党高层也不敢冒天下之大不韪,强行换马。
(3)只拿下俄亥俄。这种情况可能性不大,即使发生和(2)的分析差不多,从略。
(4)佛罗里达和俄亥俄两者皆失。这是最糟糕的情况。首先是Contested Convention几乎不可避免,而且选出来的代表无论是谁都无法服众。此时不管Trump是否独立参选,共和党都会因为内部分裂输掉大选。当然建制派还有一根救命稻草就是Hillary因为邮件门一案被起诉,其实这种情况下Bernie Sanders以哀兵姿态上阵,民主党同仇敌忾,共和党只会输的更惨。不但输掉大选,而且很有可能输掉参议院多数。最高法院自由派的金斯堡大法官乘机宣布退休,新任民主党总统一举任命两个年富力强的自由派大法官(其中包括刚卸任的Obama),一举奠定未来三十年美国的政治格局。
从这个角度看,下周二佛罗里达的初选是一场决定美国未来命运的选举。因此对几则新闻加以分析:这两天就有传闻说Rubio的幕僚建议他在佛罗里达初选前退出,以免初选时惨败伤害他未来参选州长的机会,今天的两场惨败以后,恐怕Rubio需要慎重考虑这个选项了。目前他在佛罗里达排名第二,如果他退出的话,Trump的赢面应该是更大。
另一个因素是Bush家族的表态,Bush家族两代总统,共和党内第一豪门的位置恐怕没有人会质疑。而Jeb作为前佛州州长,虽然曾经被Trump百般羞辱,但是至今没有出来为Rubio背书,而是强调他会支持最终的共和党候选人即使他是Trump,这其中恐怕不是因为昔日小弟Rubio的冒犯伤害了他的感情,而是“相忍为党”的情怀起了作用。类似情况的还有前总统George W Bush,虽然Trump在辩论中批评了他的伊战决定和9/11恐怖袭击前后的表现,但是他没有公开反驳,或者为其他候选人背书,甚至在私人场合表达了对Cruz的不喜欢,这几乎可以说是对Trump的支持了。而最近Bush家老四Neil Bush对Cruz的支持,以及老夫人Barbara对Trump的批评,更像是他们不忿于亲人被羞辱而采取的私人行为,而非家族的正式表态。
  
  作者:章威
  链接:https://www.zhihu.com/question/41129580/answer/89896373
  来源:知乎
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  dingdingdddd 发表于 3/9/2016 2:12:48 PM
OH和FL两州都拿,还是会差几个
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xiang2010
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看完这个表后,觉得真担忧,Cruz咬得这么紧的话,只怕一路打到CA Primary,然后大家Brokered Convention。
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Louisewu
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   原来他也没投票权啊,发现好几个热衷唱衰的都没投票权。
     公民的不会担心父母没福利,也不会那么在乎H1b。
    
    
  
  
   liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 12:41:32 PM

他肯定没投票权,因为上周Trump发表关于终结cheap H1B的观点,你看把他急的~
如果是公民,根本不受影响。早就投票去了……

我发现支持民主党的,好几个都很反对Trump对H1B的态度。
因为他要brightest brain啊,工作机会native优先啊,不够优秀就留不下来。
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cindy2012
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看完这个表后,觉得真担忧,Cruz咬得这么紧的话,只怕一路打到CA Primary,然后大家Brokered Convention。
  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:59 PM

Trump会赢的
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liangdoudou
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Ben Carson on Hannity: I support Donald Trump over GOP establishment
http://www.ethyper.com/ben-carson-on-hannity-i-support-donald-trump-over-gop-establishment.html
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xiang2010
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这篇文章写的真好,结尾看得我笑死

Three Clear Messages From Tuesday's Primaries

1) Donald Trump is very, very close to clinching the nomination.

--Marco Rubio is toast. That’s true even if he wins Florida. He hasn’t racked up victories in big states, and he’s fading, not rising. Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for Marco.
--John Kasich has no path to the nomination, even if he wins Ohio. His only path was a deadlocked convention, and that won’t happen unless Trump falls down a manhole. Kasich has waged a decent, honorable campaign, has extensive experience governing, and knows how to work with Congress. Trumps appreciates those assets, knows they complement his own, and must be thinking of Kasich for VP. The Ohio governor won’t blow that by turning negative.

--Ted Cruz is still standing but he has a hidden weakness. And it’s devastating. He has not been able to expand beyond his solid base of evangelicals and ideological conservatives (whether they are economic conservatives or values conservatives). In a normal year, that might be enough for Cruz to win the primaries. Not this year. Cruz has won a lot of delegates, but if you can't win the Mississippi Republican primary, you aren't going to win in the Northeast.

--That leaves Trump. He faces grave difficulties in the general election, beginning with women and Hispanics, but he is on the glide path to win his party’s nomination.

2) Hillary Clinton’s loss in Michigan won’t stop her steady march to the nomination.

--Bernie Sanders, like The Donald, is selling the stuff that dreams are made of. Barack Obama did it in 2008, and it worked. This year, the message is angrier. It’s “shut up and listen to us, dammit.” Sanders voices that message, which is why lots of primary voters are feeling the Bern. (The exception is African-Americans, who remember Bill Clinton fondly and appreciate Hillary’s promise to continue the Obama presidency.) Since Bernie is waging an ideological battle and can fund his campaign with online donations, he has no incentive to exit the race. He’ll keep pushing Hillary to the left. In the fall, his voters will cast their lot with Hillary, but they won't be enthusiastic. They will be voting against the Republicans.

--As Hillary trudges forward, her party ought to worry about two things. First, she has been unable to put away a 74-year-old socialist from a small state with zero legislative accomplishments. That’s not exactly a sizzling campaign record. Second, she has more legal troubles than Perry Mason could handle. In public, she waves them off. In private, she must be worried. When your IT guy has immunity, the FBI has hacked your home-brew server, and the Bureau has 150 agents on the case, you better hope you have a loyal friend in the White House. The only thing standing between Hillary and the nomination is an indictment or refusal to answer FBI questions when they interview her later this spring.

3) The electorate is furious.

--It’s furious with Washington, Wall Street, hedge funds, big banks, lobbyists, fat cats in corner offices—all of them cutting special deals for themselves while average folks are left out. Voters know their real incomes are down. They know their retirements are in jeopardy, their kids are loaded with college debt, and everybody is looking at a tough job market. We are not in a recession, mind you, and employment is actually growing. No matter. All across the country, voters are saying, “We’re mad as hell and we aren’t gonna take it anymore.” That’s why the most damning indictment this year is to be called an “establishment candidate.” The second most damning is to receive Mitt Romney’s endorsement. If there was a ballot option for “tar-and-feather the lousy SOBs,” it would win in a landslide. Tuesday night proved it again.
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xiang2010
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Tarring and feathering is a form of public humiliation, used to enforce unofficial justice or revenge. It was used in feudal Europe and its colonies in the early modern period, as well as the early American frontier, mostly as a type of mob vengeance (compare Lynch law).

In a typical tar-and-feathers attack, the mob's victim was stripped to their waist. Liquid tar was either poured or painted onto the person while they were immobilized. Then the victim either had feathers thrown on them or was rolled around on a pile of feathers so they stuck to the tar. Often the victim was then paraded around town on a cart or wooden rail. The aim was to inflict enough miserable pain and humiliation on a person to make them either conform their behavior to the mob's demands or be driven from town.

The image of the tarred-and-feathered outlaw remains a metaphor for public humiliation. "To tar and feather someone" can mean "to punish or severely criticize that person"
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jianingzhu17
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在知乎上看到一段:
事实上,我认为因为Cruz在Obamacare和Planned Parenthood等问题上的极端立场,在大选中对上Hillary必输无疑。而Trump反而因为在这些问题上立场温和,胜机较大。但是共和党建制派明显有一种“宁予国贼,不予家奴”的病态心理,即使冒着共和党分裂,大选失利,最高法院权利易位的巨大风险,也要把Trump拉下马。是的,建制派对他们的核心选民,有着一种主人对奴隶的傲慢心态,觉得只要大选年出来说两句场面话,奴隶们就应该感恩戴德了,这次看到奴隶们居然起来组织起来反抗,不由又惊又恼,决定不惜一切代价也要把这场反叛压制下去。

作者:章威
链接:https://www.zhihu.com/question/41129580/answer/89896373
来源:知乎
著作权归作者所有。商业转载请联系作者获得授权,非商业转载请注明出处。
  dingdingdddd 发表于 3/9/2016 2:11:13 PM
very wellsaid
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goldengate
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OH和FL两州都拿,还是会差几个
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:03 PM

后面有人退出的,所以我还是比较乐观。
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goldengate
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  这次bbg太让人失望了,trump是never give up,bbg是还没开始参选就认为自己一定输了,不放一起看都是成功的商人,放一起看,高下立现

  BlackQueen 发表于 3/9/2016 12:39:04 PM

本来就瞧不上他。
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yogi
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看完这个表后,觉得真担忧,Cruz咬得这么紧的话,只怕一路打到CA Primary,然后大家Brokered Convention。
  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 2:17:59 PM
想知道都是什么样的人投票cruz?
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goldengate
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我的乐观算法Trump没到California 就够了。
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cherubtessie
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看文学城上猜测Trump Sir可能放大招让Cruz当VP。。。。。。
  icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 1:18:50 PM

oh no, 真心讨厌cruz,而且他在体制内也没啥影响力
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cherubtessie
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  对啊这个脑洞有点忒大了。。。。


  icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 1:28:59 PM

宁愿相信是paul ryan这个小白脸
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goldengate
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最好还是州长。等他输了ohio他也许会改变不当副总统的决定。
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jjgouwu
16019 楼
第一次看到1600页的帖子。。。。。。。支持trump! 昨天看了这个帖子做了那个网上测试,竟然做出来和rubio 最符合。。。77% 汗啊。不过至少是共和党 哈哈
含笑的猫
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  看了好感动啊,never ever give up!

  liangdoudou 发表于 3/9/2016 1:47:44 PM
是感动啊,希望老爷子坚持到底,不达目的不罢休!我们川粉一直陪着他!
含笑的猫
16021 楼
话说如果cruz在选票上作弊被曝光,总票数会不会重算啊?就怕gop为奸臣捂着!
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tuer
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话说如果cruz在选票上作弊被曝光,总票数会不会重算啊?就怕gop为奸臣捂着!
含笑的猫 发表于 3/9/2016 4:03:48 PM

这个有新闻链接吗是坐实的吗
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QIQITG
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最好还是州长。等他输了ohio他也许会改变不当副总统的决定。
  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 3:36:38 PM
说得好像有谁求着他当副总统,或者他想当副总统就当得上……
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luckyso
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第一次看到1600页的帖子。。。。。。。支持trump! 昨天看了这个帖子做了那个网上测试,竟然做出来和rubio 最符合。。。77% 汗啊。不过至少是共和党 哈哈
jjgouwu 发表于 3/9/2016 3:43:51 PM

mm点开更多问题和更多立场了吗?
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luckyso
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说得好像有谁求着他当副总统,或者他想当副总统就当得上……

QIQITG 发表于 3/9/2016 4:33:03 PM

我真觉得他那个雷曼兄弟董事会的经历是个很大的liability
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Anand
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tuer
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回复 16005楼Anand的帖子

又把TRUMP黑了一遍、、、这、、、
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luckyso
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最新fox news poll ohio落后5个点。。。着急,不知道当地地面组织怎么样
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nonexistance
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我突然发现youtube上直播trump rally的实时评论很好玩啊。感觉大家都是去玩的。trump每说一句话,一堆人就在那里重复trump的关键词,大家都玩得不亦乐乎。OUT OUT OUT get them out of here 哈哈好好玩
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nonexistance
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Rubio 后悔下三滥攻击川普了
  
  
  Marco Rubio expressed regret Wednesday for his recent schoolyard taunts of
  Donald Trump, including poking fun at the size of Donald Trump's hands,
  mocking his spelling errors on Twitter and speculating that he may have
  urinated on himself during a debate.
  
  "My kids were embarrassed by it, and I, you know, if I had to do it again, I
  wouldn’t," the Florida senator said in a clip of an MSNBC town hall set to
  air in full later Wednesday evening.
  
  Rubio defended his attacks on Trump's business ventures, however, telling a
  questioner that he felt comfortable as a man of faith going after him as a "
  con man."
  
  "When it comes to the fact that he is portraying himself as something that
  he’s not and has done this throughout his career," Rubio elaborated. "This
  time, the stakes are not a worthless $36,000 degree at Trump University. The
  stakes are the greatest nation on Earth," he said.
  
  “You know why? Because in the end, you know what happened is — first of
  all, I think he had to be stood up to. I really do believe that," Rubio
  asserted. "But that said, that’s not the campaign I want to run.”
  
  Todd then observed that Rubio did not look comfortable doing it.
  
  “This is a guy that’s basically offended everyone for a year,” Rubio said
  . “That said, yeah, I don’t want to be that. If that’s what it takes to
  be president of the United States, then I don’t want to be president.”
  
  He then quickly added, “I don’t think that’s what it takes to be
  president. In fact, I know it’s not what it takes. It’s not what we want
  from our next president, and if I had to do it again, I would have done that
  part differently. But not the stuff about his record on business.”
  
  Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/marco-rubio-kids-embarrassed-trump-220520#ixzz42S52w9D8
  

  Anand 发表于 3/9/2016 7:37:49 PM
他要不是昨晚输得那么惨,真以为他会后悔吗?虚伪的小人
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luckyso
16031 楼
他要不是昨晚输得那么惨,真以为他会后悔吗?虚伪的小人


nonexistance 发表于 3/9/2016 8:01:55 PM

他的反射弧好长,智商堪忧,很多人一上来就说会backfire的
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nonexistance
16032 楼

他的反射弧好长,智商堪忧,很多人一上来就说会backfire的

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 8:03:49 PM
他是不见棺材不落泪,真真小人一个。被GOP卖了还傻傻帮人输钱
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ScottishFold
16033 楼
最新fox news poll ohio落后5个点。。。着急,不知道当地地面组织怎么样

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 7:51:04 PM
SAMPLE SIZE是多少,误差是多少
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nonexistance
16034 楼
我觉得吧,不要对OHIO抱希望。这样如果赢了有惊喜,没赢也不至于失望。做好老头苦战到加州的准备
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luckyso
16035 楼
SAMPLE SIZE是多少,误差是多少

ScottishFold 发表于 3/9/2016 8:06:58 PM

没仔细看。不过明天的debate也很关键,如果Trump表现好,州长被揭露,很可能就能赢。否则悬。
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icylava
16036 楼
我觉得吧,不要对OHIO抱希望。这样如果赢了有惊喜,没赢也不至于失望。做好老头苦战到加州的准备
  nonexistance 发表于 3/9/2016 8:08:43 PM

现在POLL上面落后这样也好,希望老头和团队明天debate能更用心准备,地面部队能更努力争取一下last minute votes
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tuer
16037 楼
我今晚一直在看IVANKA的各种采访,觉得她真的好专业啊,特别特别得体,话语抑扬顿挫,每一个表情都狠到位,适当时候配合一个微笑,看着她我觉得自己是土坑里爬出来的烂泥虫……
真好啊。。。
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PositiveVibe
16038 楼
Rubio 后悔下三滥攻击川普了
  
  
  Marco Rubio expressed regret Wednesday for his recent schoolyard taunts of
  Donald Trump, including poking fun at the size of Donald Trump's hands,
  mocking his spelling errors on Twitter and speculating that he may have
  urinated on himself during a debate.
  
  "My kids were embarrassed by it, and I, you know, if I had to do it again, I
  wouldn’t," the Florida senator said in a clip of an MSNBC town hall set to
  air in full later Wednesday evening.
  
  Rubio defended his attacks on Trump's business ventures, however, telling a
  questioner that he felt comfortable as a man of faith going after him as a "
  con man."
  
  "When it comes to the fact that he is portraying himself as something that
  he’s not and has done this throughout his career," Rubio elaborated. "This
  time, the stakes are not a worthless $36,000 degree at Trump University. The
  stakes are the greatest nation on Earth," he said.
  
  “You know why? Because in the end, you know what happened is — first of
  all, I think he had to be stood up to. I really do believe that," Rubio
  asserted. "But that said, that’s not the campaign I want to run.”
  
  Todd then observed that Rubio did not look comfortable doing it.
  
  “This is a guy that’s basically offended everyone for a year,” Rubio said
  . “That said, yeah, I don’t want to be that. If that’s what it takes to
  be president of the United States, then I don’t want to be president.”
  
  He then quickly added, “I don’t think that’s what it takes to be
  president. In fact, I know it’s not what it takes. It’s not what we want
  from our next president, and if I had to do it again, I would have done that
  part differently. But not the stuff about his record on business.”
  
  Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/marco-rubio-kids-embarrassed-trump-220520#ixzz42S52w9D8
  

  Anand 发表于 3/9/2016 7:37:49 PM
早知现在,何必当初呢
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PositiveVibe
16039 楼
我今晚一直在看IVANKA的各种采访,觉得她真的好专业啊,特别特别得体,话语抑扬顿挫,每一个表情都狠到位,适当时候配合一个微笑,看着她我觉得自己是土坑里爬出来的烂泥虫……
真好啊。。。
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 8:33:06 PM
所以我真心希望她当第一夫人
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turtlezhu
16040 楼
这几天的rally上好多的protester啊!真心烦!怀疑很多都是被雇佣的
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nonexistance
16041 楼
这几天的rally上好多的protester啊!真心烦!怀疑很多都是被雇佣的
  turtlezhu 发表于 3/9/2016 8:46:05 PM
一定是啊。GOP的反trump运动一上来,才突然多了这么多protester的。这不是巧合吧
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BlueNDGold
16042 楼
所以我真心希望她当第一夫人
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 8:36:30 PM
你是想让她先生竞选还是希望她离婚再找个总统候选人?
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drspurple
16043 楼
我今晚一直在看IVANKA的各种采访,觉得她真的好专业啊,特别特别得体,话语抑扬顿挫,每一个表情都狠到位,适当时候配合一个微笑,看着她我觉得自己是土坑里爬出来的烂泥虫……
真好啊。。。
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 8:33:06 PM
你不是烂泥虫,不是这么比的; Chelsea Clinton才是烂泥虫。
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icylava
16044 楼
你是想让她先生竞选还是希望她离婚再找个总统候选人?
  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/9/2016 8:57:40 PM

First Lady =/= President's Wife 前面都说过一次了。。。
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liangdoudou
16045 楼

    First Lady =/= President's Wife 前面都说过一次了。。。
  
    icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 9:00:39 PM

发帖前先看下id
   不知道他是不是也有病,刚知道坑王是真有抑郁症,我以后都不忍心埋汰他了,挖坑是他觉得抗抑郁的方式吧,也可能别人越骂他他越不抑郁。
  

   另一个原因是我最近半年停止服用抗抑郁药,导致我的精神头比吃药的时候降低了很多。反差很明显,吃药的时候,同样的工作,白天干活+挖坑 晚上写歌,精力十足。现在白天也不想干活也不怎么挖坑了晚上也不想创作。可是也不能一辈子吃药啊。
  
  
   daluren1 发表于 3/9/2016 5:13:09 PM
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luckyso
16046 楼

First Lady =/= President's Wife 前面都说过一次了。。。

icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 9:00:39 PM

别理他,见首页。理他太上火,他是专门找茬的
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tuer
16047 楼
你不是烂泥虫,不是这么比的; Chelsea Clinton才是烂泥虫。

  drspurple 发表于 3/9/2016 8:58:58 PM
O8家的更糟糕,我觉得Michelle O8根本不怎么会带孩子,全是关注自己。
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goldengate
16048 楼
不知道各位有没有注意到,Trump Sir 样子都好像变了今天,更帅,更presidential了。好像瘦了,身板更直,头发也更正经了。
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tuer
16049 楼
隔壁那些楼也真是的,如果他们支持的人也被这么不公平的被媒体黑,肯定也是要愤愤然多讲几句的。有些事情是显而易见的。。。为撒他们看不出来。。。我这么说会不会也被撕。
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goldengate
16050 楼
NC Rally 我说的是,这身衣服也显得年轻。
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Anand
16051 楼
该用户帖子内容已被屏蔽
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goldengate
16052 楼
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOa3VrR_RqY
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goldengate
16053 楼
大家别管外面那些人了,人家想说什么就让他们说吧。
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tuer
16054 楼
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOa3VrR_RqY

  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:24:08 PM
哇塞那杂音是场外的protester吗?
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Anand
16055 楼
该用户帖子内容已被屏蔽
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BlueNDGold
16056 楼

  First Lady =/= President's Wife 前面都说过一次了。。。

  icylava 发表于 3/9/2016 9:00:39 PM
The only times in U.S. history when the First Lady =/= President's Wife is when the President isn't married or if the President's wife isn't suitable to be the First Lady.
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goldengate
16057 楼
The only times in U.S. history when the First Lady =/= President's Wife is when the President isn't married or if the President's wife isn't suitable to be the First Lady.

  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/9/2016 9:31:01 PM
那几个mm说想让她当纯粹是因为她形象好。你没有必要过多解读。
含笑的猫
16058 楼
所以我真心希望她当第一夫人
  

  PositiveVibe 发表于 3/9/2016 8:36:30 PM
怎么伊万卡的娃娃还没生出来啊?
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luckyso
16059 楼
那几个mm说想让她当纯粹是因为她形象好。你没有必要过多解读。

goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:34:59 PM

他不过分解读就怪了,钻牛角尖是他的强项。不要回他
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tuer
16060 楼
NC纺织业好像很发达,曾经被第三世界搞的纺织业快要消失了,后来靠科技提高生产效率起死回生的
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goldengate
16061 楼
哇,哪个家伙拿着一个Wall sign, Trump signed on it. 以后值钱了。
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BlueNDGold
16062 楼
那几个mm说想让她当纯粹是因为她形象好。你没有必要过多解读。

  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:34:59 PM
请解释为什么形象好就应该当First Lady?

喜欢她可以啊,但是说想让她当First Lady不就是瞎扯么?
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luckyso
16063 楼

辩论问问题居然要西班牙语,然后翻译才能回答。。。我觉得这辩论实在是舔过头了。。。美国还没成墨西哥呢
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goldengate
16064 楼
请解释为什么形象好就应该当First Lady?
  
  喜欢她可以啊,但是说想让她当First Lady不就是瞎扯么?
  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/9/2016 9:49:59 PM
有人说应该么?first lady形象好难到不是更好么?人家想你管得着么?
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goldengate
16065 楼

辩论问问题居然要西班牙语,然后翻译才能回答。。。我觉得这辩论实在是舔过头了。。。美国还没成墨西哥呢

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 9:51:45 PM
谁?民主党?
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cindy2012
16066 楼
那几个mm说想让她当纯粹是因为她形象好。你没有必要过多解读。

  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:34:59 PM

有人钻牛角上瘾,千万别理他,直接踩,越回他他越high.巴不得有人跟他交流
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luckyso
16067 楼
谁?民主党?
  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:54:05 PM
对。
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cindy2012
16068 楼
谁?民主党?
  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:54:05 PM

看了几分钟,晕倒
真的是用西班牙语啊,然后翻译成英文
那女主持明明说很好的英文偏偏用西班牙语
这太过了
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BlueNDGold
16069 楼
有人说应该么?first lady形象好难到不是更好么?人家想你管得着么?

  goldengate 发表于 3/9/2016 9:53:34 PM
我可不想管别人想什么。她自己有个可笑的想法,我笑笑不行么?
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tuer
16070 楼
我可不想管别人想什么。她自己有个可笑的想法,我笑笑不行么?
  
  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/9/2016 10:00:33 PM
你看着不像坑王的大衣啊,可是为啥老这么执着钻牛角尖
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BlueNDGold
16071 楼
你看着不像坑王的大衣啊,可是为啥老这么执着钻牛角尖
  
   tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 10:04:29 PM

因为有些人的发言好笑。所以我帮忙让他们意识到他们给别人带来的乐趣。

我不在乎他们回不回帖。如果他们回,那就即兴讨论。如果不回,那么完全可以转话题讨论其他话题。你认为我执着钻牛角尖,实际上我只是陪他们讨论。
含笑的猫
16072 楼

辩论问问题居然要西班牙语,然后翻译才能回答。。。我觉得这辩论实在是舔过头了。。。美国还没成墨西哥呢

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 9:51:45 PM
喧宾夺主!
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luckyso
16073 楼
你看着不像坑王的大衣啊,可是为啥老这么执着钻牛角尖
  
  tuer 发表于 3/9/2016 10:04:29 PM

他的特点就是钻牛角尖,直接忽略是最好的回复。参见首页。
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coca
16074 楼

  看了几分钟,晕倒
真的是用西班牙语啊,然后翻译成英文
那女主持明明说很好的英文偏偏用西班牙语
这太过了

  cindy2012 发表于 3/9/2016 9:57:49 PM
任何问题都是怎么帮拉美裔入籍,免学费,提高生活质量。看来黑人也得办个debate才能打平。亚裔人少言轻,只能干瞪眼了 。
含笑的猫
16075 楼
明天我又要为川爷敲木鱼一天!保佑明晚的debate一帆风顺!
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luckyso
16076 楼
大家看了这段了吗?心里难受又感动:
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/707779410137452545
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rabbit1688
16077 楼
民主党那两个socialists是在选美国总统,还是墨西哥总统。为了选票,跪舔成这样。
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icylava
16078 楼
跪舔成这样简直不能更low了,就不怕民主党里还有稍微正常点的人会反感吗

民主党那两个socialists是在选美国总统,还是墨西哥总统。为了选票,跪舔成这样。
rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 11:39:59 PM


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含笑的猫
16079 楼
民主党那两个socialists是在选美国总统,还是墨西哥总统。为了选票,跪舔成这样。
  rabbit1688 发表于 3/9/2016 11:39:59 PM
民主党这是要让美国彻底变成墨西哥的节奏啊!难怪现在的墨西哥总统那么牛掰,拜登副总统还要向他们道歉呢!原来民主党和墨西哥已经通气好了,只要民主党上台,墨西哥和美国就合并一国了!
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tuer
16080 楼
大家看了这段了吗?心里难受又感动:
  https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/707779410137452545

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 11:30:54 PM
没有twitter啊这个讲的什么呀
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Yadkin
16081 楼
univision的辩论, 用西班牙语很正常啊。


辩论问问题居然要西班牙语,然后翻译才能回答。。。我觉得这辩论实在是舔过头了。。。美国还没成墨西哥呢

luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 9:51:45 PM


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xiang2010
16082 楼
univision的辩论, 用西班牙语很正常啊。



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  Yadkin 发表于 3/9/2016 11:53:27 PM
Oh, 美国官方语言什么时候变的西语。
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xiang2010
16083 楼
bush家阴魂不散,要支持cruz了,恐怕明天辩论Rubio 接着董存瑞,3人围殴trump.
3月5号情势不乐观,Ohio 州长赢,Florida  bush家只怕全力上阵,trump 能不能赢难讲。
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tuer
16084 楼
Oh, 美国官方语言什么时候变的西语。

  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 11:56:15 PM
平时客服不就是英语和西语选嘛。。是不是跟波多黎各有关啊?
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turtlezhu
16085 楼
大家看了这段了吗?心里难受又感动:
  https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/707779410137452545

  luckyso 发表于 3/9/2016 11:30:54 PM
泪点比较低,看到最后一句时没忍住落泪了,"when you become the president, I don't want you to worry for those guys who are giving tons of money to a lot of people, I want you to worry for us, for us."
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tuer
16086 楼
bush家阴魂不散,要支持cruz了,恐怕明天辩论Rubio 接着董存瑞,3人围殴trump.
3月5号情势不乐观,Ohio 州长赢,Florida  bush家只怕全力上阵,trump 能不能赢难讲。
  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 11:59:53 PM
真是一分钟都不能掉以轻心啊呜呜呜。
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tuer
16087 楼
泪点比较低,看到最后一句时没忍住落泪了,"when you become the president, I don't want you to worry for those guys who are giving tons of money to a lot of people, I want you to worry for us, for us."
  turtlezhu 发表于 3/10/2016 12:02:13 AM
这个twitter link显示不是这个啊。确实好感人啊,比当时在缅因说的I don't want your money 那个神态和语气还感人。trump是保护大家的大哥!
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Yadkin
16088 楼
Univision hosts debates又不是第一次,这么多年了,gop 的debate以前也host过。

比如candidates去chinatown 拉选票,town hall, 提问人用中文,然后让会议组织者翻译肯定也是可以的。

Univision就相当于办了一个巨大的town hall一样。

Oh, 美国官方语言什么时候变的西语。

xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 11:56:15 PM


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luckyso
16089 楼
这个twitter link显示不是这个啊。确实好感人啊,比当时在缅因说的I don't want your money 那个神态和语气还感人。trump是保护大家的大哥!

  tuer 发表于 3/10/2016 12:03:59 AM
是这个,最后那个伤残的vet说的
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tuer
16090 楼
是这个,最后那个伤残的vet说的

  luckyso 发表于 3/10/2016 12:09:52 AM
噢噢我看错啦。心酸的一米,老大哥快站出来啊呜呜。
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cindy2012
16091 楼
bush家阴魂不散,要支持cruz了,恐怕明天辩论Rubio 接着董存瑞,3人围殴trump.
3月5号情势不乐观,Ohio 州长赢,Florida  bush家只怕全力上阵,trump 能不能赢难讲。
  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 11:59:53 PM

老百姓要反了
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BlueNDGold
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Oh, 美国官方语言什么时候变的西语。

  xiang2010 发表于 3/9/2016 11:56:15 PM
美国什么时候有官方语言了?
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tuer
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美国什么时候有官方语言了?
    
    BlueNDGold 发表于 3/10/2016 12:12:24 AM

你说的对,but英语是主要语言啊,所有官方文件,法律条文不都是英语吗
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tuer
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每天论来论去打来打去,心好累!你说那些竞选人累不累啊换我肯定早就意志薄弱退了。从这点上来说他们个个是奇葩啊(褒义),确实比那些没勇气的人强太多太多了。
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BlueNDGold
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   你说的对,but英语是主要语言啊,所有官方文件,法律条文不都是英语吗
   而且为了跪舔一群人拉选票连自己祖宗都不认识了是什么样的人啊
  
  
   tuer 发表于 3/10/2016 12:14:47 AM

至于么?有多少华人每天工作,生活中都用英语。难道用英语的华人就都是为了生存而跪舔人,不认自己祖宗的人了?什么逻辑啊?
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tuer
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至于么?有多少华人每天工作,生活中都用英语。难道不用中文的华人就都是为了生存而跪舔人,不认自己祖宗的人了?什么逻辑啊?
  
  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/10/2016 12:28:52 AM
英语是生存的语言啊
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BlueNDGold
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英语是生存的语言啊
  tuer 发表于 3/10/2016 12:30:14 AM
很多纽约,三藩市的老移民来美国多年还是不会说英文。我看他们并没有因为不会英文而无法生存。
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tuer
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很多纽约,三藩市的老移民来美国多年还是不会说英文。我看他们并没有因为不会英文而无法生存。
  BlueNDGold 发表于 3/10/2016 12:36:22 AM
What's your point?
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BlueNDGold
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What's your point?

  tuer 发表于 3/10/2016 12:38:08 AM
My point is there is nothing wrong with asking questions in Spanish.
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luckyso
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What's your point?

  tuer 发表于 3/10/2016 12:38:08 AM
别和他辩了,他的风格就是没有point, 只会splitting hair钻牛角尖。我们这里的人早就忽略他了。