【奥巴去广岛,称美国不能“repeat the evil”,为反法西斯的胜利道歉?】大选聊天帖

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luckyso
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WSJ说只剩三人的情况下cruz是最可能赢的。
  
   Dohremi 发表于 2/21/2016 2:14:42 AM

前两天WSJ的不靠谱poll也是向着cruz的,看来cruz和华尔街的联系真紧密啊。
@PositiveVibe, 不知道可不可以让Trump挖掘一下这方面的消息,暴露cruz的真面目。
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BlueNDGold
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Cruz: Washington cartel in terror of conservative uprising
我就不明白他为啥老用Washington cartel这个词,一下子就联想到毒贩子。。。
  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 1:19:10 AM
他就是希望你联想到毒贩子
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BlueNDGold
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  yep. http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/20/politics/jeb-bush-drops-out-2016/index.html
  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 1:43:29 AM

要团结起来对付Anti-establishment 了。
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trump 报复成功
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ScottishFold
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    要团结起来对付Anti-establishment 了。
  
    BlueNDGold 发表于 2/21/2016 6:38:32 AM

是的,美国民众这次倾向于选一个以前从来没有参加过总统选举的人,所以TRUMP这次肯定会赢。民主党初选中,女性不倾向于选HILLARY,HILLIARY这个同性恋很令人讨厌。
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Sophia2011
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馒头的老婆
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@mikeliberation: This is the best reaction shot I've ever seen lol #Trump2016"


luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 2:02:44 AM
Hahahaha, look at ur face, bitches!
馒头的老婆
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是的,美国民众这次倾向于选一个以从来前没有参加过总统选举的人,所以TRUMP这次肯定会赢。民主党初选中,女性不倾向于选HILLARY,HILLIARY这个同性恋很令人讨厌。

ScottishFold 发表于 2/21/2016 9:16:40 AM
Trump甚至会得到一部分Democrat s的投票,因为对两个party和politicians的厌恶到极点。
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PositiveVibe
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http://theantimedia.org/the-us-dollar-just-became-the-official-currency-of-isis/?AID=7236

From now on, the U.S. dollar will be the only form of currency ISIS accepts for tax payments, fines, and utility payments. 

哇,ISIS直接跟美国货币接轨
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ScottishFold
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Trump甚至会得到一部分Democrat s的投票,因为对两个party和politicians的厌恶到极点。
  馒头的老婆 发表于 2/21/2016 9:50:20 AM
很多美国的退伍大兵都支持TRUMP,里面应该2党的人都有,他会得到很多选票
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ocmom
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看了今天的Face the nation,Trump对Dr Carson很nice, 看来有Carson为VP的可能性。如果是真的,民主党的黑人票有一些可能流入Trump……
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PositiveVibe
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看了今天的Face the nation,Trump对Dr Carson很nice, 看来有Carson为VP的可能性。如果是真的,民主党的黑人票有一些可能流入Trump……
  ocmom 发表于 2/21/2016 11:29:55 AM
不一定。。。。。。以Trump的眼光,Carson is not competent enough
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whyhere
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回复 10369楼whyhere的帖子

一般情况下我根本不会提政治话题。

   要我就不理她们啦。而且有的公司有规定, 也不好在单位聊。除非特别近的同事,否则没人说真话。
  可是有些民众,对政治,党派不敏感的会改变主意,我有个邻居,派另外一个邻居打听我们支持谁,他就支持谁。
  结果他特别不喜欢 Trump。法国恐袭后,他开始摇摆,加州的确定后,就支持Trump 啦。
  大家都是支持Trump , 希望他赢。 策略不同,殊途同归。  加油。
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PositiveVibe
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    要我就不理她们啦。而且有的公司有规定, 也不好在单位聊。除非特别近的同事,否则没人说真话。
   可是有些民众,对政治,党派不敏感的会改变主意,我有个邻居,派另外一个邻居打听我们支持谁,他就支持谁。
   结果他特别不喜欢 Trump。法国恐袭后,他开始摇摆,加州的确定后,就支持Trump 啦。
   大家都是支持Trump , 希望他赢。 策略不同,殊途同归。  加油。



  whyhere 发表于 2/21/2016 12:29:14 PM

我们公司邻居不用猜,都知道我支持谁,看一眼我的车就知道了 :)))
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shoon_yee
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他不大可能让他当vp的,给个其他职位倒是有可能。


看了今天的Face the nation,Trump对Dr Carson很nice, 看来有Carson为VP的可能性。如果是真的,民主党的黑人票有一些可能流入Trump……

ocmom 发表于 2/21/2016 11:29:00 AM
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goldengate
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Trump 把50票全拿了。
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cindy2012
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Trump 把50票全拿了。
  goldengate 发表于 2/21/2016 1:39:21 PM

太好了
后面的州都是按票数比例分配delegate,不是像SC这样take all.
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cindy2012
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不一定。。。。。。以Trump的眼光,Carson is not competent enough

  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/21/2016 12:27:21 PM
Carson坚持到底就是胜利
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PositiveVibe
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Trump 把50票全拿了。
  goldengate 发表于 2/21/2016 1:39:21 PM

这是咋算的,29个给选票最多的,那另外那21个为啥都给Trump了


21 district delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the state's 7 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates and the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all 3 of that district's National Convention delegates. [Rule 11(b)(4)]
29 (10 base at-large delegates plus 16 bonus delegates plus 3 RNC delegates) at-large delegates are to be allocated to the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in the primary statewide. [Rule 11(b)(5)]
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PositiveVibe
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哦,我知道了,另外那21个delegates是分7个选区,每区3个delegates,每个区的三个delegates给那个区选票最多的,结果Trump在七个区里全是选票最高,所以,21个delegates就全归他了
  
  
  
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PositiveVibe
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南卡,Trump真是大获全胜啊!!!!

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PositiveVibe
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所有的SC北面的evangelical的counties全都是Trump胜,没有Cruz一点什么事儿,哈哈哈哈哈
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cindy2012
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那现在trump已经拿到67个delegates,不是61个
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cindy2012
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南卡,Trump真是大获全胜啊!!!!
  
  
   PositiveVibe 发表于 2/21/2016 2:23:47 PM

看图是Rubio赢了两个County啊,那trump应该是44票,减掉6票啊
哦不对,按区算。
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luckyso
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luckyso
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yiyiyaya0627
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  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 2:41:50 PM
GOP里面最不想看到的就是这个一脸假意和奸邪的rubio。我觉得他的举止完美的诠释了小人得志之后的那种状态。
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goldengate
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机器人哭参了,一票没得。
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goldengate
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  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 2:46:45 PM

哈哈,i said so.
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katharinezl
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我觉的这里面

jeb 做vp
carson 管医疗
kasich 管预算
christie 管执法这一块
cruz 还rubio还是算了,2个都不行,三观不正
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luckyso
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我觉的这里面
  
  jeb 做vp
  carson 管医疗
  kasich 管预算
  christie 管执法这一块
  cruz 还rubio还是算了,2个都不行,三观不正
   katharinezl 发表于 2/21/2016 4:35:02 PM

除了jeb以外同意。
可不能再让bush出来了,GOP好容易翻过这篇。当初里根离开时,那是historical high approval ratings, 打下了GOP的坚实基础。现在全被这家子bush败光了。
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luckyso
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Trump去Georgia了,他help当地农民:
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/10156671213285725/
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katharinezl
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  除了jeb以外同意。
  可不能再让bush出来了,GOP好容易翻过这篇。当初里根离开时,那是historical high approval ratings, 打下了GOP的坚实基础。现在全被这家子bush败光了。
  

  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 4:41:19 PM

是啊,jeb是不太行。我觉的这个vp要比选总统还难!我觉的这里面还就是christie 是个能力很强的人,但是vp这个位置太重要,jeb有esbalishment支持,可以强强联合。
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luckyso
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Cruz这次是大败啊:
Going forward, Rubio is probably the bigger threat to Trump than Cruz, who won only 26 percent of South Carolina voters who identified themselves as evangelical or born-again Christians despite having campaigned as narrowly and fiercely as possible for their favor. More of them chose Trump, who got 34 percent of the evangelical vote, and plenty of them chose Rubio, who got 21 percent.
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ocmom
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  是啊,jeb是不太行。我觉的这个vp要比选总统还难!我觉的这里面还就是christie 是个能力很强的人,但是vp这个位置太重要,jeb有esbalishment支持,可以强强联合。


  katharinezl 发表于 2/21/2016 4:55:47 PM
Rand Paul 或Condolezza Rice也是好的VP选择。我不看好Jeb。
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luckyso
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NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/22/us/politics/donald-trumps-victory-south-carolina-spurs-renewed-scrambling-among-republicans.html

Despite the concerns, there was little evidence of either a party-wide distress call or donors moving off the bench en masse toward Mr. Rubio, who has positioned himself to be the most palatable and electable remaining option to the Republican elites.

Fred Zeidman, a major Republican donor and longtime Bush family friend who had backed Mr. Bush, said he planned to take a breath and see how things played out. The same was true for Woody Johnson, the owner of the Jets football team, who was Mr. Bush’s national finance chairman. An aide to Mr. Johnson pointed out that he had knocked on doors in early states for Mr. Bush and invested lots of time to help him, and he was not ready to shift allegiances so soon.

Mr. Johnson, who has long been a friend of Mr. Trump, has nonetheless found himself used as an object lesson over the last week by Mr. Trump, who named him at rallies as an example of special-interest donors who supported candidates like Mr. Bush. And in conversations on Sunday morning, there was evidence of interest among some of Mr. Bush’s former donors about possibly backing Mr. Trump.

Only a disparate patchwork of forces — the pro-Bush “super PAC” Right to Rise, groups backing Mr. Cruz and the anti-tax organization Club for Growth — have run ads against Mr. Trump, and most of them have done so only recently. A group called Our Principles PAC, funded heavily by a member of the wealthy Ricketts family, began airing ads in the last month. It was not yet clear whether the Ricketts family would donate more heavily after Saturday’s primary, or if Right to Rise would spend its remaining funds to stop Mr. Trump.
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luckyso
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Rand Paul 或Condolezza Rice也是好的VP选择。我不看好Jeb。

  ocmom 发表于 2/21/2016 5:09:31 PM
vp应该找个鲜活新面孔,之前打得挺狠的,到时必须要有翻篇的感觉,也让voter有新鲜感。我不知道是找个铁杆conservative去团结神棍呢,还是找个女的或少数族裔之类的争取更多independents或democrats好
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yiyiyaya0627
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   是啊,jeb是不太行。我觉的这个vp要比选总统还难!我觉的这里面还就是christie 是个能力很强的人,但是vp这个位置太重要,jeb有esbalishment支持,可以强强联合。
  
  
   katharinezl 发表于 2/21/2016 4:55:47 PM

恩,我也同意christie能力很强。半年前我自己幻想的最终组合是christie和kasich/或者一个FL的结合,把NJ,OH/FL变红,就差不多了。
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ajilon
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强强联手不一定是最佳组合,trump太强势,得找个相对温和又有政治管理经验的VP,kasich不错
唐伯虎点蚊香
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大家来说说Texas primary吧,155个delegate (好像比加州,纽约都多),cruz在德州的poll一直好过trump。
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luckyso
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大家来说说Texas primary吧,155个delegate (好像比加州,纽约都多),cruz在德州的poll一直好过trump。
  唐伯虎点蚊香 发表于 2/21/2016 6:02:15 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas
Cruz在1月时优势只有5个点,最近没人poll。感觉有一拼。Trump只要差不太多就可以,如果能赢,cruz is over. So is Florida for Rubio.
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cindy2012
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas
Cruz在1月时优势只有5个点,最近没人poll。感觉有一拼。Trump只要差不太多就可以,如果能赢,cruz is over. So is Florida for Rubio.


  luckyso 发表于 2/21/2016 6:16:37 PM
Florida的polls,trump高高在上
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adoy
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我觉的这里面

jeb 做vp
carson 管医疗
kasich 管预算
christie 管执法这一块
cruz 还rubio还是算了,2个都不行,三观不正
  katharinezl 发表于 2/21/2016 4:35:02 PM
Trump家那么多子女,vp一个位置一个,挺好
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cindy2012
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我觉的这里面

jeb 做vp
carson 管医疗
kasich 管预算
christie 管执法这一块
cruz 还rubio还是算了,2个都不行,三观不正
  katharinezl 发表于 2/21/2016 4:35:02 PM
同意,cruz和rubio两个投机分子,靠察言观色耍嘴皮子上来的,不能重用
唐伯虎点蚊香
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AP poll: 86%
的共和党认为Trump童鞋可以当选总统
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Donald Trump has emerged as the front-runner for the GOP nomination by winning over roughly a third of Republicans in the early voting states and in preference polls, packing his rallies with men and
women, evangelical Christians and military veterans, blue-collar workers and wealthy retirees.
His critics have argued for months he’ll never be able to grow that wide-
but-only-so-deep coalition by clashing with Pope Francis, attacking former President George W. Bush and skipping debates like he did once in Iowa. His negatives, they say, are just too high.
But a new AP-GfK poll finds registered Republicans and GOP-leaning voters put Trump at the top of the still-unwieldy GOP field when it comes to which candidate fits best with their stand on the issues. They give Trump the best marks for competence and decisiveness.
Far more Republicans than not say they’d vote for Trump in the general
election, and 86 percent of Republican voters think he can win in November – giving him a 15 percentage point advantage over his nearest rival.
If the number of Republican candidates shrinks as expected after Saturday’s primary in South Carolina, Tuesday’s Nevada caucuses and on Super Tuesday on March 1, the Trump coalition, it would appear, has plenty of room to grow.
“He understands what the problems are and he conveys that in a way that
attracts blacks, whites and Democrats and Jews and Christians and
independents and a lot of conservatives and a lot of evangelicals,” said Ed
McMullen, a Trump co-chairman in South Carolina. “When you really assess the base of who’s out there for Mr. Trump and why it’s there, it’s there
because he’s got the message that they’re looking for.”
Predictions of Trump’s inevitable political demise have arrived almost
daily since the brash real estate mogul huaren.used into the White House race.
They came again after last weekend’s GOP debate, when Trump aggressively went after Bush as a president who failed to protect the country from
terrorism. “The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George
Bush,” he said. “He kept us safe? That is not safe.”
Barry Wynn, a national fundraising leader for Bush’s brother, Trump rival
Jeb Bush, said the moment “crystallized that if you’re for Trump, you’re
still for Trump.”
“But it also raised negatives among everybody else,” he said. “Eventually
you have to pay for that.”
Indeed, only 42 percent of Republicans consider Trump likable and only 32 percent consider him compassionate. The AP-GfK poll found Trump and Jeb Bush are nearly tied as the candidates with the highest unfavorable ratings
within their own party, with only 4 in 10 GOP voters seeing Trump in a
positive light.
By comparison, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
79%
leads the field in terms of favorability and likability. But he’s yet to
come close to the top of the pack, perhaps because those same voters put “likability” at the bottom of their list of priorities, with just half of
GOP respondents calling it important.
Competence and decisiveness, the measures on which Trump dominates, were important to more than 9 out of 10 Republican voters.
Joan Brewer, a 70-year-old retiree from Garden City, South Carolina, is an
evangelical Christian voter leaning toward casting her ballot on Saturday
for Trump. She acknowledged “that mouth may get him into trouble,” but she may be willing to look past his penchant for controversy to get the leader
she thinks the country needs.
“This country is in trouble,” Brewer said. “I want it to be Trump. We
need it to be Trump.”
McMullen rejected the impression that Trump’s supporters are only a bunch of “lower-income, angry white men” and “rednecks,” pointing to a series
of campaign events in recent days at exclusive golf resorts and gated
communities in South Carolina that attracted wealthy retirees and business leaders.
“The moment he started having events that brought 5,000 or 10,000 people in a room, you had African-Americans, you had independents,” he said. “I
mean, it was always 50-50 men-women.”
While the AP-GfK poll suggests Trump can broaden his support to win the
nomination, it also suggests his coalition has some limits.
Among all registered voters nationally, 6 in 10 say they have an unfavorable opinion of Trump and 54 percent say they wouldn’t even consider voting for him in a general election. Perhaps most troubling for Trump is that he
finishes at the bottom of the GOP field among Americans who are Hispanic,with just 16 percent viewing him favorably.
Those numbers will almost surely have to improve for Trump to be a
competitive general election candidate. Hispanic voters are expected to grow to close to 12 percent of the electorate in November.
Trump’s most ardent backers, however, have faith he will expand his appeal.
“I don’t think he represents a particular side of the aisle,” said Susan
Simon, a resident of the Sun City retirement community in Bluffton, South
Carolina, and a Democrat who intends to vote for Trump on Saturday. “I hope he can get rid of that gridlock and get things accomplished and not
fighting that it has to be a Republican win or a Democratic win. It should
be a U.S.A. win.”

The AP-GfK Poll of 1,033 adults, including 345 Republican or Republican
leaning registered voters, was conducted online Feb. 11-15, using a sample
drawn from GfK’s probability-based KnowledgePanel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all
respondents is plus or minus 3.4 percentage points, and is plus or minus 5.8percentage points for Republican voters.

but-only-so-deep coalition by clashing with Pope Francis, attacking former President George W. Bush and skipping debates like he did once in Iowa.
His
negatives, they say, are just too high.
But a new AP-GfK poll finds registered Republicans and GOP-leaning voters ...................
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luckyso
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Florida的polls,trump高高在上

  cindy2012 发表于 2/21/2016 6:31:06 PM
但当时Bush还没退,不知道他们会不会转而支持Bush。全国角度来讲,我感觉Bush的support除了一部分会转Rubio外,也还有一部分转Kasich, 也许还有一小部分转Trump,不会像他们说的一样一股脑冲向Rubio
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BlueNDGold
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  恩,我也同意christie能力很强。半年前我自己幻想的最终组合是christie和kasich/或者一个FL的结合,把NJ,OH/FL变红,就差不多了。
  

  yiyiyaya0627 发表于 2/21/2016 5:34:59 PM
NJ的人现在很讨厌Christie. 骂他也许能帮忙。
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BlueNDGold
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Trump家那么多子女,vp一个位置一个,挺好
  

  adoy 发表于 2/21/2016 6:31:22 PM
好主意!支持Trump现在就把这个计划公布。
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cindy2012
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Trump确实精力过人啊
连着几天的rally,别说这个年纪,小伙子也吃不消啊
唐伯虎点蚊香
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5字头啦!

#Massachusetts #GOP Poll
@realDonaldTrump 50%
Marco Rubio 16%
John Kasich 13%
Ted Cruz  10%
Ben Carson 2%
#Emmerson #Trump2016 #TrumpTrain
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PositiveVibe
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.@tedcruz spokesman apologizes for 'inaccurate' @marcorubio video https://t.co/4TiskbVPTQ https://t.co/hQDJHJQjLw

Cruz继续无中生有,被caught,然后道歉,恶心
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PositiveVibe
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Rubio的父母在FL生它的时候都不是美国公民,那Rubio算natural-born US citizen么?
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SDSPAGE
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Rubio的父母在FL生它的时候都不是美国公民,那Rubio算natural-born US citizen么?
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 7:41:52 AM
算吧。在美国生的。
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ginger227
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昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。
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drspurple
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昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。

  ginger227 发表于 2/22/2016 8:37:15 AM
有的人愚蠢不自知,有的人可以改变意见但嘴上不认错。你老公的朋友有可能是后者;即使不能改变他的意见,起码也让他意识到了别人跟他有不同意见。总之你的据理力争是有意义的,值得尊敬!
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SDSPAGE
10459 楼

昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。

  ginger227 发表于 2/22/2016 8:37:15 AM
赞mm.
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happyniu
10460 楼

昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。

  ginger227 发表于 2/22/2016 8:37:15 AM
同赞mm
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xiang2010
10461 楼
5字头啦!

#Massachusetts #GOP Poll
@realDonaldTrump 50%
Marco Rubio 16%
John Kasich 13%
Ted Cruz  10%
Ben Carson 2%
#Emmerson #Trump2016 #TrumpTrain
  唐伯虎点蚊香 发表于 2/22/2016 6:52:17 AM
麻州看到好些支持trump的banner, poster.
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datoufeifei
10462 楼
GOP establishment 打算用brokered convention来恶心川普
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luckyso
10463 楼

昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。

ginger227 发表于 2/22/2016 8:37:15 AM

赞!肯定是他家有非移,屁股决定脑袋。要么就是脑残。ps 每年花在非移的钱100billion都不止
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atypia
10464 楼
5字头啦!

#Massachusetts #GOP Poll
@realDonaldTrump 50%
Marco Rubio 16%
John Kasich 13%
Ted Cruz  10%
Ben Carson 2%
#Emmerson #Trump2016 #TrumpTrain
  唐伯虎点蚊香 发表于 2/22/2016 6:52:17 AM
坦白讲,深蓝州的民调看看就好。
有可能是一些左棍故意来冲高川普的票。
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wobuaichicu
10465 楼

昨晚在fb上和老公一劳模朋友吵了一架, 我老公传了一张我们去trump南卡胜利演讲的照片, 那人在下面说"come on, your wife is immigrant, Trump hates ALL the immigrants! how could you support trump???",  我老公不好意思回,我就回了他一通就是问他从哪里听说trump hates all immigrants了, 他两任老婆都是移民好不好。 非移和合法移民区别太大了,而且trump说的很明确支持合法移民而且还说非法移民是对合法的不公平。 他说非法移民也pay sales tax的, 说我ignorant, 我说他无中生有说trump讨厌所有移民才是ignorant, 让他去听听演讲再来说, 每年政府花在非移上的11-22billion 花在什么地方不好?  然后说我从没被trump移民政策offend过。 他说我愚蠢不和我说了。 我说同样的......  真是讨厌死了。老公说他可能家人或者朋友有非移。

  ginger227 发表于 2/22/2016 8:37:15 AM

好多学生糊里糊涂的认定:川普反移民!根本不了解还有合法和非法之分。
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luckyso
10466 楼

In one of the upcoming primaries, Marco Rubio will get a win under his belt, and that may serve to wake up outsiders and force them to unite.

Ted Cruz had better read “The Art of the Deal” now, because at some point in the near future, Donald Trump will offer Cruz a deal.

Unless Cruz pulls into first place soon, he would be wise to take Trump’s deal. Whether it is an offer to be Trump’s running mate, or some other promise, Cruz will either need to step down, or he will hand the election to Marco Rubio.

If Trump and Cruz are both in this race until the end, this will just be another presidential race for Phyllis Schlafly to write about how the establishment installed its candidate and the grassroots got the shaft.

At this point, Cruz may not have any hope of winning the presidency, but he holds all the cards in his decision to hand the election to the establishment. An outsider victory lies solely in the hands of Ted Cruz. One way or another, his commitment to ousting the establishment will become obvious.

Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/02/trumps-deal-with-cruz/#diQVJLvYTwgWqB3X.99
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luckyso
10467 楼
坦白讲,深蓝州的民调看看就好。
有可能是一些左棍故意来冲高川普的票。

atypia 发表于 2/22/2016 12:12:15 PM

我觉得是东北部特别好,原因new york value plus brady。我觉得在加州就没这么好
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goldengate
10468 楼
GOP establishment 打算用brokered convention来恶心川普
  datoufeifei 发表于 2/22/2016 11:39:16 AM
他们要敢,就永世别想选上了。Trump会给他们个deal的。
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luckyso
10469 楼

Check out @FoxNews's Tweet: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/701794874702454784?s=09
今晚Hannity full hour with Trump in Vegas!
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BlueNDGold
10470 楼
他们要敢,就永世别想选上了。Trump会给他们个deal的。
  

  goldengate 发表于 2/22/2016 12:25:08 PM
为什么不敢?难道你会去投票给民主党?

两党系统比一党独政好一点。不过也就好一点而已。
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PositiveVibe
10471 楼
天,我们州居然GOP和DEM争论初选投票要不要出示photo ID,GOP说,要求出示减少,voting fraud,DEM说,好多minority, young and poor没有photo ID,要求出示会使这些人不能投票,GOP说要求美国公民具有photo ID并不是什么burden,所以不应该是什么问题。我快服了DEM了。
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BlueNDGold
10472 楼
天,我们州居然GOP和DEM争论初选投票要不要出示photo ID,GOP说,要求出示减少voting fraud,DEM说,好多minority, young and poor没有photo ID,要求出示会使这些人不能投票,GOP说要求美国公民具有photo ID并不是什么burden,所以不应该是什么问题。我快服了DEM了。
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:09:23 PM
你要是愿意免费发photo ID那么随你。
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luckyso
10473 楼
天,我们州居然GOP和DEM争论初选投票要不要出示photo ID,GOP说,要求出示减少,voting fraud,DEM说,好多minority, young and poor没有photo ID,要求出示会使这些人不能投票,GOP说要求美国公民具有photo ID并不是什么burden,所以不应该是什么问题。我快服了DEM了。
PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:09:23 PM

这个争论已久,好多州都有voter id law, 有些需要有些不需要。
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PositiveVibe
10474 楼
你要是愿意免费发photo ID那么随你。
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 2/22/2016 1:11:52 PM
懒得屌你
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luckyso
10475 楼

大家看昨天Trump演讲黑灯后的反映了吗?临场反应一流
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urthur
10476 楼

  In one of the upcoming primaries, Marco Rubio will get a win under his belt, and that may serve to wake up outsiders and force them to unite.
  
  Ted Cruz had better read “The Art of the Deal” now, because at some point in the near future, Donald Trump will offer Cruz a deal.
  
  Unless Cruz pulls into first place soon, he would be wise to take Trump’s deal. Whether it is an offer to be Trump’s running mate, or some other promise, Cruz will either need to step down, or he will hand the election to Marco Rubio.
  
  If Trump and Cruz are both in this race until the end, this will just be another presidential race for Phyllis Schlafly to write about how the establishment installed its candidate and the grassroots got the shaft.
  
  At this point, Cruz may not have any hope of winning the presidency, but he holds all the cards in his decision to hand the election to the establishment. An outsider victory lies solely in the hands of Ted Cruz. One way or another, his commitment to ousting the establishment will become obvious.
  
  
  Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/02/trumps-deal-with-cruz/#diQVJLvYTwgWqB3X.99
  
   luckyso 发表于 2/22/2016 12:17:42 PM

cruz和rubio两个人之间有bad blood. 不太可能愿意成rubio之美 事情有的闹。。。
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PositiveVibe
10477 楼

这个争论已久,好多州都有voter id law, 有些需要有些不需要。

  luckyso 发表于 2/22/2016 1:14:06 PM
不明白这有什么可争论的必要,证明你确实是这个voter,通过出示photo ID不是最低要求么。除了DL,不是还有个什么卡么。
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PositiveVibe
10478 楼

大家看昨天Trump演讲黑灯后的反映了吗?临场反应一流

  luckyso 发表于 2/22/2016 1:18:43 PM
没有啊,被热情fans熊抱啦,哈哈哈
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goldengate
10479 楼
不明白这有什么可争论的必要,证明你确实是这个voter,通过出示photo ID不是最低要求么。除了DL,不是还有个什么卡么。

  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:19:42 PM
这些人要food stamp的时候可不会说什么我没有ID。
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SDSPAGE
10480 楼
天,我们州居然GOP和DEM争论初选投票要不要出示photo ID,GOP说,要求出示减少,voting fraud,DEM说,好多minority, young and poor没有photo ID,要求出示会使这些人不能投票,GOP说要求美国公民具有photo ID并不是什么burden,所以不应该是什么问题。我快服了DEM了。
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:09:23 PM
吐血。有photo id不是最基本的吗?
平时生活中都用的。
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urthur
10481 楼
Rubio的父母在FL生它的时候都不是美国公民,那Rubio算natural-born US citizen么?
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 7:41:52 AM

是,美国是属地主义,他们的小学中学教育也都这么讲。
虽然有cruz这种例子一出生就有美国国籍,但是不少普通美国人绝对不会认为他是常见情况。
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BlueNDGold
10482 楼
懒得屌你              
     PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:17:07 PM

投票是公民生有的权利。防止投票作假是政府的责任。
    
如果政府认为Photo ID 能防止投票作假,那么政府就有责任给没钱办photo ID的人发ID。
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luckyso
10483 楼
没有啊,被热情fans熊抱啦,哈哈哈
PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:20:38 PM

一分钟的小片段:Lights go out on Donald Trump at rally
https://youtu.be/ckzGe3w-gOI
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BlueNDGold
10484 楼
这些人要food stamp的时候可不会说什么我没有ID。
  goldengate 发表于 2/22/2016 1:22:27 PM
Food stamp 需要 ID 么?
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QIQITG
10485 楼
麻州看到好些支持trump的banner, poster.


  xiang2010 发表于 2/22/2016 11:17:26 AM
赞!!!
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ajilon
10486 楼
不明白,没有ID怎么能证明你是你
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BlueNDGold
10487 楼
吐血。有photo id不是最基本的吗?
平时生活中都用的。


  SDSPAGE 发表于 2/22/2016 1:22:37 PM
11%的美国人没有photo ID。
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BlueNDGold
10488 楼
不明白,没有ID怎么能证明你是你
  ajilon 发表于 2/22/2016 1:35:15 PM
没人出生的时候是带着ID的。你第一个ID怎么来的?
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ajilon
10489 楼
没人出生的时候是带着ID的。你第一个ID怎么来的?
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 2/22/2016 1:38:28 PM
不明白你要说什么
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cindy2012
10490 楼
天,我们州居然GOP和DEM争论初选投票要不要出示photo ID,GOP说,要求出示减少,voting fraud,DEM说,好多minority, young and poor没有photo ID,要求出示会使这些人不能投票,GOP说要求美国公民具有photo ID并不是什么burden,所以不应该是什么问题。我快服了DEM了。
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 1:09:23 PM
Dem是想明目张胆作弊了
那告诉没有id的又想行使投票权的赶紧申请啊,在自己州内申请很快的应该
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9tonight
10491 楼
John Oliver 上周的专题就是和这个ID有关。主要的argument就是很多州,办state ID很麻烦,比如office不常开,需要很多document,特别不方便seniors。
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cindy2012
10492 楼

  是,美国是属地主义,他们的小学中学教育也都这么讲。
  虽然有cruz这种例子一出生就有美国国籍,但是不少普通美国人绝对不会认为他是常见情况。

  urthur 发表于 2/22/2016 1:23:59 PM

所以现在提出修改这种出生地入籍的政策,要求必须是合法居民的孩子出生再美国即成美国公民,有些政策该与时俱进
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cindy2012
10493 楼

  投票是公民生有的权利。防止投票作假是政府的责任。
    
  如果政府认为Photo ID 能防止投票作假,那么政府就有责任给没钱办photo ID的人发ID。
    

  BlueNDGold 发表于 2/22/2016 1:26:33 PM
公民的权利不错,所以投的时候证明自己是公民
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xiang2010
10494 楼

  投票是公民生有的权利。防止投票作假是政府的责任。
    
  如果政府认为Photo ID 能防止投票作假,那么政府就有责任给没钱办photo ID的人发ID。
    

  BlueNDGold 发表于 2/22/2016 1:26:33 PM
怎么证明是公民?出生证,DL, social secury card...都拿不出来叫公民。
本来觉得有时候你的观点还值得看看,现在彻底倒胃口了。
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ronyning
10495 楼
没人出生的时候是带着ID的。你第一个ID怎么来的?
  

  BlueNDGold 发表于 2/22/2016 1:38:28 PM
没有就去办!你家东西没有不是买的?想投票,办ID,不对吗? 有11%人没ID,就让89% 让着他们。你错你有理呀!
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cindy2012
10496 楼
有些人恨trump恨得逻辑都混乱了,Lol
Trump 确实不完美,不过是唯一一个实际,有common sense的选手,其他的选手,真可以用"各怀鬼胎"来形容,不说别的,人拿自己的钱往上贴,这点就可以了,想想rubio还6次盗用公家信用卡给自己家买家具等大件,他要当了总统,还不知得花上多少,跟奥巴一个德行,靠当总统翻身的
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goldengate
10497 楼
有些人恨trump恨得逻辑都混乱了,Lol
Trump 确实不完美,不过是唯一一个实际,有common sense的选手,其他的选手,真可以用"各怀鬼胎"来形容,不说别的,人拿自己的钱往上贴,这点就可以了,想想rubio还6次盗用公家信用卡给自己家买家具等大件,他要当了总统,还不知得花上多少,跟奥巴一个德行,靠当总统翻身的
  cindy2012 发表于 2/22/2016 3:03:31 PM

语无伦次了都。Trump赢了,他们茶饭不思阿。
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PositiveVibe
10498 楼
楼主,要不要把Trump的stances贴首页啊,真烦有些人自己也不搞清他主张什么,然后就开帖子造谣
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goldengate
10499 楼
楼主,要不要把Trump的stances贴首页啊,真烦有些人自己也不搞清他主张什么,然后就开帖子造谣
  PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 3:30:19 PM

就算他们知道也装作不知道的。屁股决定立场。
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luckyso
10500 楼
楼主,要不要把Trump的stances贴首页啊,真烦有些人自己也不搞清他主张什么,然后就开帖子造谣
PositiveVibe 发表于 2/22/2016 3:30:19 PM

我其实第一页里面有,还有专门总结Trump的移民主张,有人视而不见。。。打算初选差不多了以后开个新帖聊general election。我现在去改题目辟谣吧