有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧
有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧 jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 3:51:45 PM
有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧 jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 3:51:45 PM
有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧 jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 3:51:45 PM
有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧 jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 3:51:45 PM
有人转过这一条吗 16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said "Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative." 太气人了吧 jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 3:51:45 PM
"Malaysia Airlines offered initial financial assistance to the families of Flight 370 passengers on Tuesday, and promised that additional compensation was being prepared.
The payments of $5,000 per passenger should help families cope with the immediate financial strain caused by a long search for the plane. But the airline is eventually likely to pay next of kin compensation that ranges into the millions of dollars per passenger. "
Under an international treaty known as the Montreal Convention, the airline must pay relatives of each deceased passenger an initial sum of around $150,000 to $175,000.
Relatives of victims can also sue for further damages -- unless the airline can prove that it took all necessary measures to prevent a crash or any other incident that prevented passengers from arriving safely.
Under an international treaty known as the Montreal Convention, the airline must pay relatives of each deceased passenger an initial sum of around $150,000 to $175,000.
Relatives of victims can also sue for further damages -- unless the airline can prove that it took all necessary measures to prevent a crash or any other incident that prevented passengers from arriving safely. proserpina 发表于 3/25/2014 5:06:45 PM
After bad weather halted the hunt for a day, searching resumed Wednesday for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said. A Chinese plane took off for the search area in the Indian Ocean at 5 a.m. Wednesday (5 p.m. ET Tuesday), several hours ahead of schedule, the authority told CNN's Kyung Lah.
中国前方的搜救人员真心不容易，看着很感动啊 After bad weather halted the hunt for a day, searching resumed Wednesday for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said. A Chinese plane took off for the search area in the Indian Ocean at 5 a.m. Wednesday (5 p.m. ET Tuesday), several hours ahead of schedule, the authority told CNN's Kyung Lah.jeannebj 发表于 2014-03-25 18:39 PM
中国前方的搜救人员真心不容易，看着很感动啊 After bad weather halted the hunt for a day, searching resumed Wednesday for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said. A Chinese plane took off for the search area in the Indian Ocean at 5 a.m. Wednesday (5 p.m. ET Tuesday), several hours ahead of schedule, the authority told CNN's Kyung Lah.jeannebj 发表于 2014-03-25 18:50 PM
After bad weather halted the hunt for a day, searching resumed Wednesday for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said. A Chinese plane took off for the search area in the Indian Ocean at 5 a.m. Wednesday (5 p.m. ET Tuesday), several hours ahead of schedule, the authority told CNN's Kyung Lah. jeannebj 发表于 3/25/2014 6:35:50 PM
大家别理那个神经病！我刚看cnn，就10分钟前的专家连线（可能是重播节目），一个aviation 律师说的和我们微博上看的一样，马来西亚现在宣布飞机坠毁没人生还，根据蒙特利尔treaty 还有一个什么international tready，这个statement就产生了legal liabiity to 马行，就是说现在开始这个事情就可以move on了， 开始进行赔偿了。而且他很替这些家属担心，根据这个公约，原来20几个国家开展的搜索就可以降到2，3个国家进行的打捞了（前面有mm提到主要是马来西亚，中国和澳大利亚）。大概就是这个意思。我想起上周六还是周日有一条新闻说马行携手德国再保险几家保险公司理赔，说是理赔已经在上周末协商好了之类的。我当时就觉得很奇怪，马行为什么这么着急，赔偿肯定要赔偿但当时连飞机是坠海还是着陆都没定论怎么设定赔偿金额？果然周一马来流氓总理就开记者会了。马来西亚这个无耻的流氓一步一步的都设计好了，现在就是很明显的想赶紧close up 然后out of this 了。我好奇打捞的工作到底谁出钱，是马行还是有一部分保险cover，流氓政府估计想out of this一个原因就是不想掏钱了所以在没有残骸的情况下这么着急宣布坠毁。
大家别理那个神经病！我刚看cnn，就10分钟前的专家连线（可能是重播节目），一个aviation 律师说的和我们微博上看的一样，马来西亚现在宣布飞机坠毁没人生还，根据蒙特利尔treaty 还有一个什么international tready，这个statement就产生了legal liabiity to 马行，就是说现在开始这个事情就可以move on了， 开始进行赔偿了。而且他很替这些家属担心，根据这个公约，原来20几个国家开展的搜索就可以降到2，3个国家进行的打捞了（前面有mm提到主要是马来西亚，中国和澳大利亚）。大概就是这个意思。我想起上周六还是周日有一条新闻说马行携手德国再保险几家保险公司理赔，说是理赔已经在上周末协商好了之类的。我当时就觉得很奇怪，马行为什么这么着急，赔偿肯定要赔偿但当时连飞机是坠海还是着陆都没定论怎么设定赔偿金额？果然周一无耻的马来猪总理就开记者会了。马来西亚这个无耻的流氓一步一步的都设计好了，现在就是很明显的想赶紧close up 然后out of this 了。我好奇打捞的工作到底谁出钱，是马行还是有一部分保险cover，流氓政府估计想out of this一个原因就是不想掏钱了所以在没有残骸的情况下这么着急宣布坠毁。 梦的衣裳 发表于 3/26/2014 1:14:31 AM
大家别理那个神经病！我刚看cnn，就10分钟前的专家连线（可能是重播节目），一个aviation 律师说的和我们微博上看的一样，马来西亚现在宣布飞机坠毁没人生还，根据蒙特利尔treaty 还有一个什么international tready，这个statement就产生了legal liabiity to 马行，就是说现在开始这个事情就可以move on了， 开始进行赔偿了。而且他很替这些家属担心，根据这个公约，原来20几个国家开展的搜索就可以降到2，3个国家进行的打捞了（前面有mm提到主要是马来西亚，中国和澳大利亚）。大概就是这个意思。我想起上周六还是周日有一条新闻说马行携手德国再保险几家保险公司理赔，说是理赔已经在上周末协商好了之类的。我当时就觉得很奇怪，马行为什么这么着急，赔偿肯定要赔偿但当时连飞机是坠海还是着陆都没定论怎么设定赔偿金额？果然周一马来流氓总理就开记者会了。马来西亚这个无耻的流氓一步一步的都设计好了，现在就是很明显的想赶紧close up 然后out of this 了。我好奇打捞的工作到底谁出钱，是马行还是有一部分保险cover，流氓政府估计想out of this一个原因就是不想掏钱了所以在没有残骸的情况下这么着急宣布坠毁。 梦的衣裳 发表于 3/26/2014 1:14:31 AM
大家别理那个神经病！我刚看cnn，就10分钟前的专家连线（可能是重播节目），一个aviation 律师说的和我们微博上看的一样，马来西亚现在宣布飞机坠毁没人生还，根据蒙特利尔treaty 还有一个什么international tready，这个statement就产生了legal liabiity to 马行，就是说现在开始这个事情就可以move on了， 开始进行赔偿了。而且他很替这些家属担心，根据这个公约，原来20几个国家开展的搜索就可以降到2，3个国家进行的打捞了（前面有mm提到主要是马来西亚，中国和澳大利亚）。大概就是这个意思。我想起上周六还是周日有一条新闻说马行携手德国再保险几家保险公司理赔，说是理赔已经在上周末协商好了之类的。我当时就觉得很奇怪，马行为什么这么着急，赔偿肯定要赔偿但当时连飞机是坠海还是着陆都没定论怎么设定赔偿金额？果然周一马来流氓总理就开记者会了。马来西亚这个无耻的流氓一步一步的都设计好了，现在就是很明显的想赶紧close up 然后out of this 了。我好奇打捞的工作到底谁出钱，是马行还是有一部分保险cover，流氓政府估计想out of this一个原因就是不想掏钱了所以在没有残骸的情况下这么着急宣布坠毁。 梦的衣裳 发表于 3/26/2014 1:14:31 AM
Investigators revealed that eight minutes after the last complete transmission from Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.17% Flight 370, there was a "partial ping" from the aircraft that could help unravel what happened to the missing jet before it stopped flying.
The final partial transmission from the missing Boeing Co. BA +0.51% 777-200ER, which disappeared from civilian radar on March 8, "originates with the aircraft for reasons not understood," said Chris McLaughlin, senior vice president of Inmarsat ISAT.LN +3.13% PLC, which operates the satellite.
The company is investigating the partial ping—or digital handshake between the jet and the satellite—as "a failed login" to its satellite network or as a "potential attempt by the system [aboard the aircraft] to reset itself," Mr. McLaughlin said.
The cause of the partial ping could have several possible explanations, he added, but that human interaction with the satellite communications system had been ruled out.
"We're not looking at this [partial ping] as someone trying to turn on the system and communicate," he said.
The partial ping is the latest in a series of clues that have presented new questions for investigators as they try to piece together what happened to the missing aircraft and the 239 people aboard.
Unlike the partial final ping initiated by the aircraft, the earlier, roughly hourly contacts originated as part of automated communications between Inmarsat ground stations, its satellite and the jet. Those transmissions are intended to ascertain if the jet is able to send and receive information.
A statement released earlier Tuesday by Malaysian authorities indicated the U.K. Air Accidents Investigation Branch determined there was "evidence of a partial handshake between the aircraft and ground station" that followed the last complete ping eight minutes earlier.
Investigators said "at this time this transmission isn't understood and is subject to further ongoing work," but didn't elaborate.
【马来西亚该受多大指责，中国有多大权利？】
诚然，这次事件，马来西亚政府的反应，特别是信息发布，令人大跌眼镜，以致中国在总理、总参谋长和大使等层面多次要求马方提供准确信息。
这是基于中国政府对公民海外人身安全保护的职责，但尽管马政府各机构，包括其媒体都暴露出诸多问题，中国政府仍然不方便直接指责。而中国相当多的公众对国家利益及其边界、实现手段的认识仍然极为粗糙，基本还停留在村民扯皮的阶段。实际上，中国仍然只能通过外交渠道提出要求，若对方做得不好或不作为，当然可能影响两国关系，但远达不到马来西亚就此对中国国家犯下了国际罪行，应当承担国家责任，或者中国政府就此有权对马政府提出强制要求，甚至采取什么强制措施的程度。因而中国不少网民群情激愤，要求对马来西亚“强硬”、“教训”甚至武力云云，完全是无知之语。
包括劫机在内，除非能证明是政府指使甚至组织（如洛克比空难最终被证明是利比亚政府特工所为），仍然与空难一样，属于不可抗力和偶发事故。而这种事故一旦发生，仍然需依据一系列习惯原则来决定由哪国组织应对和调查。
这次事件中，中国是航空器目的地国，但这个目的地并未到达。而马来西亚是航空器所属国和出发地国，虽然导致灾难的行为，以致最终坠毁的地点很可能发生在公海上，马来西亚仍然是最方便的组织者。
包括前几日澳大利亚在卫星照片中发现疑似残骸后，仍通报给马方。只是各国飞机从澳空军基地起飞搜索，澳方应马请求承担起组织责任，但明确坠毁，各国力量移师南下后，澳仍表示搜索指挥权在马方。美国至今也只是提供协助。
这些都不过是国际惯例，并没有太多霸权或者谁看不惯谁的问题，遇到马这种能力有限的国家，也是客观现实，无法报怨。当今世界本来就发展极不平衡，跨国活动的风险因地而异，再强的国家也只能对国民提出风险评估、警告和事后救援，而无法要求自己的国民走到哪里，哪里就必须担保安全。这是全球化时代的特点之一，没有什么好办法，美国公民在海外个别甚至集体遇险遇难也时有发生。
当然，对中国乘客来说，作为消费者与空运服务承运人马航之间存在合同关系，由此产生了民事法律的责任和义务。因而其家属有权要求亲人得到妥善救助和善后赔偿，这是另一回事。有些中国报纸酷爱强调马政府必须“面对公众尖锐质询”，恐怕平时另一些国内的事多这么强调一下就更好了。
实际上，这次事件完全可能刺激全球航空业加快技术进步，尽快普及ADS-B（广播式自动相关监视）等技术手段，使民航客机不需任何地面辅助设备，即可使地面掌握其精确位置和飞行姿态，这将比黑匣子等事后被动措施有效得多。
ADS-B系统无需应答，各机都主动广播数据，相互联网，即使在无法部署航管雷达的地区，也能随时了解相互位置，而不像现在只有地面空中管制员了解空中全貌。
中国在这方面尽管起步不晚，但已经存在与国际体系接轨不畅的问题。其背后的原因又不无受制于人等担心。其实从这次事件来看，现在哪里是追求不受制于人的时候。Inmarsat不帮忙，中国的信息获取和马来西亚不会有什么区别，而搜索仍然会在错误的海域忙碌，只能抓住马来西亚这么一个在卫星通信和民航技术上也说了不算的小国大骂。
当然，此次事件也必然使中国另一自主技术得到高度重视和强大推进。众所周知，北斗导航系统目前只是区域性的，但其导航方式可以在飞机等用户获知自己位置的同时，也让总地面站掌握其位置。客观地说，这在这次事件中会有一定用处。而全球性的北斗二代正在酝酿之中，南印度洋显然是一代所无法覆盖之处。
更大的问题是，北斗二代即使全面建成，除中国军机以外，能够指望马航也用它，而不用GPS，以及以GPS为基础的ADS-B技术吗？很难，它显然达不到ADS-B的程度。这些，恐怕都是受此事件刺激，势必是大干快上高新技术手段的中国必须思考的问题。
16.00 China and Malaysia have had some terse communications today. China has demanded that Malaysia turn over the satellite data which was used to conclude that the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean.
Ealier today in a press conference Malaysia's acting Transport Minister criticised China's role in the search. When asked by a Chinese journalist why Malaysia had taken so long to release the satellite data, he said
"Can I also remind you that we received satellite data from China involving 'sightings' in the South China Sea, which made us detract ourselves from the search and rescue to search areas we already searched, and it was found to be negative."
太气人了吧
真的假的？
滚
你自己去mit开贴玩儿吧，就不要在这个帖子里搅和了。
不要脸的东西！马来猪继续秀下限！真不想骂，侮辱猪了！
The payments of $5,000 per passenger should help families cope with the immediate financial strain caused by a long search for the plane. But the airline is eventually likely to pay next of kin compensation that ranges into the millions of dollars per passenger. "
The $5k is just the initial payment.
Relatives of victims can also sue for further damages -- unless the airline can prove that it took all necessary measures to prevent a crash or any other incident that prevented passengers from arriving safely.
Don think it'll happen in this case. Paying $150,000 to $175,000 each will not be a problem for most of the airlines.
大大来封ID啊。
如果是机长劫机，保险公司不会赔的应该~~~
After bad weather halted the hunt for a day, searching resumed Wednesday for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said.
A Chinese plane took off for the search area in the Indian Ocean at 5 a.m. Wednesday (5 p.m. ET Tuesday), several hours ahead of schedule, the authority told CNN's Kyung Lah.
马来西亚闯了这么大一祸
内部管理完全一锅粥
他总理怎么可能最后不出面
而且像马来那种地方的总理
还不知道一年换几个呢
都是保险公司赔的
马来西亚破不破产都和赔偿没什么关系
但是赔完这一次它家保险肯定会狂涨
这个混蛋公司和混蛋国家一块破产了好了
马来总理说 不妥
你妹啊 谁还惜得你致哀啊
昨天看cnn采访一个人他的弟弟原来也在空难中失踪了。已经11年了 他还在找。说就算是找到尸体也好 要不就会一直惦记着 真是伤心啊
那些家属们的后半辈子算是全毁了
这件事情不能这么算了
这次马来西亚今天东明天西
一会死一会活
最不能接受的是前一天还给家属暗示人可能还活着（当然这个我不敢保证是马来西亚无良还是记者无良，这年头无良的记者也比较多），然后当晚就宣布失事了
飞机失事不是头一次
总有一定的概率大家能接受
弄到如此恶心的它家也算头一家了
也就是美国把伊朗客机打下来那次恶心程度稍微能和这个相比
梦见火车被劫持了（最近破事太多了，估计是意念中把云南火车站和这件事嫁接了）
更不要说家属是怎么过的了
事情不能让马来说算了就算了
活要见人，死要见尸
光说没用，以实际行动支持马航吧，比如多坐马航航班？
希望今天能找到。
真心疼我们那些解放军官兵
昨天飞机飞的油都降到警戒线以下了才回来
千万要平安啊
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欠揍? 忘吃药了!
人英国人也说了是第一次这么预测
https://www.facebook.com/AustralianMaritimeSafetyAuthority
还有希望 还有希望！！！！
马国绝对有阴谋，想着宣布坠机让别的国家停止救援一了百了。 绝对不能让它得逞！！！！！！！！！！！！！
bless 所有的人都活着！！！
神经病一个,鉴定完毕!
坑王流放马来西亚
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现在在澳大利亚搜救，他们一个船一个飞机都没派，他们是不是也不出钱啊？尼玛有这么贱的么
而且说宣布完了家属都找不见他们人影了？
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以后国内别搞新马泰
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The final partial transmission from the missing Boeing Co. BA +0.51% 777-200ER, which disappeared from civilian radar on March 8, "originates with the aircraft for reasons not understood," said Chris McLaughlin, senior vice president of Inmarsat ISAT.LN +3.13% PLC, which operates the satellite.
The company is investigating the partial ping—or digital handshake between the jet and the satellite—as "a failed login" to its satellite network or as a "potential attempt by the system [aboard the aircraft] to reset itself," Mr. McLaughlin said.
The cause of the partial ping could have several possible explanations, he added, but that human interaction with the satellite communications system had been ruled out.
"We're not looking at this [partial ping] as someone trying to turn on the system and communicate," he said.
The partial ping is the latest in a series of clues that have presented new questions for investigators as they try to piece together what happened to the missing aircraft and the 239 people aboard.
Unlike the partial final ping initiated by the aircraft, the earlier, roughly hourly contacts originated as part of automated communications between Inmarsat ground stations, its satellite and the jet. Those transmissions are intended to ascertain if the jet is able to send and receive information.
A statement released earlier Tuesday by Malaysian authorities indicated the U.K. Air Accidents Investigation Branch determined there was "evidence of a partial handshake between the aircraft and ground station" that followed the last complete ping eight minutes earlier.
Investigators said "at this time this transmission isn't understood and is subject to further ongoing work," but didn't elaborate.