NYT: Gen. Rodzali Daud, the Malaysian air force chief, said Wednesday that the military was not certain that its radar had detected the jetliner heading west across the peninsula. He declined to offer another explanation for the coincidence of an unidentified blip suddenly appearing on military radar screens after Flight 370 stopped transmitting its identification signal to civilian ground controllers 40 minutes into its flight. “Today we are still not sure that it is the same aircraft,” Hishammuddin Hussein, the country’s defense minister, told reporters. “That is why we are searching in two areas.” Malaysia is sharing the radar data with officials from American agencies, including the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board. Spokesmen for those agencies declined to comment on Wednesday, referring inquiries to the Malaysian authorities. If experts determine that the radar signals probably did reflect the movements of Flight 370, the search for the plane is likely to be expanded to vast new areas of the Indian Ocean. The final blip came from about 200 miles northwest of Penang at 2:15 a.m. local time on Saturday, General Rodzali said, adding that the data showed the aircraft at an altitude of 29,500 feet. That is near the missing plane’s usual cruising altitude: When its pilots were last heard from around 1:30 a.m., it was cruising at 35,000 feet. The jet, a Boeing 777, was fueled for a six-hour flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, a journey of more than 2,500 miles. “I have no feeling for what happened to this plane,” said David Learmount, operations and safety editor at Flightglobal, a Britain-based aviation news and data service. “The number of possibilities is so massive that it’s completely pointless.” The existence of the radar data suggests that the Malaysian authorities may have missed a chance to send military jets to intercept, identify and track the plane as it passed over the country. General Rodzali said interceptors were not scrambled because the unidentified plane appeared to be a civilian aircraft and was not seen as hostile. For days, official statements had put the last known contact with Flight 370 almost an hour earlier, at about 1:30 a.m. The aircraft’s transponders, which automatically transmit identifying information and some other data about the plane, including altitude, apparently ceased to function at 1:21 a.m.; after that, radar screens would show the plane only as an unidentified blip. Certain weather conditions, and even flocks of birds, can occasionally cause radar blips that may be mistaken for aircraft. An American aviation official noted that the statement from Malaysian officials on Wednesday indicated that they were still searching for the plane on both sides of the peninsula. If the plane did turn west as the radar blips suggest, the official said, there would be no reason to keep searching on the eastern side. 现已有第二楼,喜欢讨论吐槽马来西亚的可以去那里,本楼将继续update,以便读者了解官方发布的最新消息。
An unconfirmed report from a flight tracking website said the plane had plunged more than 200 metres and changed course in the last minute that it had transmitted data.
失去联系的飞行位置。
【最新消息】马航VP接受CNN访问表示,本次航班配有7小时航油,他们相信到目前为止,飞机航油已经耗尽。马航目前对飞机位置完全没有头绪。
【最新消息】据突发新闻网,MH370最后一次向地面传回数据时下降了200多米,并且从24度转向333度。
【背景资料】飞机的飞行方向分为360度。正北即000或360。正东为90,正南为180,正西为270。根据消息描述,该航班从24即朝向东北方向飞行改为了333即西北方向飞行。
【最新消息】据另一消息,该航班最后与外界联络是在南海海域。
【最新消息】亚洲航空CEO Tony Fernandes发推特说未经证实马航飞机是无线电故障。
【背景资料】民航飞机失联一般有两类,一是通讯失联,也就是飞机上呼叫不到地面,或者地面无法呼叫到飞机。民航空管一专家介绍,这种情况不能说非常多,但也屡有发生。多是飞行员调错频道或者设备故障,但一般30分钟内就会恢复,或采用应急编码联系。 第二类是雷达信号失去联系,这类失联问题较大。民航采用的是二次雷达,也就说飞机主动发出信号,地面雷达可以搜索到。 该航班最后一次与地面联系距此刻已超过8个小时,飞机失事可能性很大。
【独家连线】南航原机长,有10年飞行经验的周剑分析,以该航班目前油量状况已无飞行可能。按相关航空法规,飞机失去联系时间超过预计飞行计划半个小时,就应启动紧急救援。目前现代大型航空器上装有4种通信设备:1、高频通讯设备,2、甚高频通讯设备,3、ACARS航空无线电寻址系统,4、卫星电话。以现在情况分析,这4种通讯应已全部失效。
【最新消息】经向相关管制部门联络证实,该机也一直未与中国民航管制部门建立联络,或进入三亚及香港飞航管制区,宣告失踪。也就是说基本可以确认飞机已经坠毁。
【最新消息】今日10点21分,南宁吴圩国际机场一名接线员表示,已问过现场,目前并未接到任何航班备降信息,建议到北京首都机场进一步核实。此前网上有消息说,客机已安全着陆南宁。
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【最新消息】越南媒体:搜救人员说发现马航失联信号
【名单中的意大利人来电:我还活着!】外媒最新报道,今天凌晨失去联系的马来西亚航空MH370航班名单上的意大利人Luigi Maraldi打电话给母亲说:“我还活着”。原因是,去年八月这位老兄护照在泰国被偷,而今晨不知是谁拿着他护照冒充意大利人登上这班飞往北京的航班。 (难道有恐怖分子用假护照上机?)
越南方面制作的飞机失事地点范围:
【最新消息】奥地利外交部8日确认,马来西亚航空公司公布的MH370失去联系的客机乘客名单中的奥地利乘客本人也没有登机。此人也是在泰国丢失了他的护照。
恐怖分子作案嫌疑上升。
【背景资料】[持假护照登机的可能] 其次,如对边检验护照感到担心,也有办法。如微博上有人分析的,登机者“拿着一真一假两个护照,买两张差不多时间从吉隆坡出发的机票,用假护照在马航自助值机的机器上出一次登机牌,然后另一机票再出一张。用后者和真护照过边检。然后用前者上了马航的飞机。”这需要的条件是过边检后自己在登机牌盖个边检章(这个不难做到),并且在登机口不需要再次验护照(有去过的乘客证实就是这样)。知名旅行实务专家刘朔廷表示这种做法完全可行,他自己就实验过带两张登机牌过关,想去哪都行。
【背景资料】[持假护照登机的可能] 首先,持假护照硬闯过安检。意大利人和奥地利人丢失的护照都是真护照,上面的个人信息、防伪识别都是真的,只要数据不接入国际刑警的数据库就不会有问题。并且,护照持有者很可能是在黑市买的护照,会挑选外形跟自己尽量相似的,配合一定程度的打扮,在边检不严的情况下,就容易闯关登上飞机。
【背景资料】[持假护照登机的可能] 再次,吉隆坡是国际知名的转机枢纽,到达和出发在一个平层。乘客从别的地方到达下机后,可以直接去要转机的登机口,如前所述,在登机口的安检不需要重新验护照,有登机牌就行。即便目的地是北京,只要再备一张北京出发至第三国的机票,在中国已对欧洲多数国家实行72小时过境免签政策的情形下,签证也不需要。
【最新消息】福州市公安局出入境管理处值班人员称,对于在失联航班上发现一福州护照,且其护照持有人仍在家中未登机一事,相关领导也刚刚得到消息,目前正在进一步核查中。
【现场直击】[丽都现场]马航发布会现场,一位家属表示,自己的哥哥就是航班里的一名乘客,自己曾试图拨打哥哥电话,是畅通状态,新加坡号码!不过,截至目前,又拨通两次均无人接听。马航方面已记录此电话,进一步调查。电话还能打通,这就是希望!!!MH370加油!!!
(担心越南空军发现的油迹会误导寻机地点,也许坠落在山区,手机有信号!)
【最新消息】马来西亚交通部长9日召开新闻发布会介绍:目前,已经确定持假护照的有4人,不排除有更多人。马情报局将和国际情报部门、反恐部门合作,调查所有登机名单。
又一天过去了,还是没发现飞机踪迹,不能靠无能的越南和马来西亚了,中国空军该出动了,什么规则主权的,学学美帝,做规则的制定者,而不是服从者!
遗失护照的意大利人露脸了:
越南空军发现的油迹,如果不是机油,海下估计一定有高产油田。
和像飞机机门的物件,希望这次的真的。
飞机黑盒子的设计实在太落后,不能设计成即时通信吗?靠,每次失事都要费大劲地找。
一、为何失去联系近7小时候,马航才公布? 一架飞机不可能凭空消失,它配有无线电、应答机、发射器等设备与地面保持联系。马航公布的失联时间,应该是飞机起飞2消失后进入巡航时,也正是一架飞机最平稳的时候。它忽然从二次雷达屏幕上消失,这种情况并不能说代表它出了危险,因为遭遇烟雾也可能忽然消失。 此时,空管员会在各个频道呼叫该机长。如果都没有应答,那么就需要排除这个航班是否飞到了下一个管制区。因此马航需要做的就是一个个排查,直到凌晨6点追溯到中国,而中国空管局回应说该航班没有进入管制区,此时才能确定失去联络,否则航空公司不可能贸然发布信息引起不必要恐慌。 此外,马航该航班携带了7个小时航油也是一个考虑因素。 二、航班已经失联长达39个小时,为何还不能定位? 这里面有很多可能,比如人为关掉应答机、比如发生坠毁调入海域等。航空公司宣告坠毁是一件非常严谨的工作,在没有确认看到飞机残骸后,它是不会宣布的,这也是为何马航至今都表示“没有证据表示MH370坠毁”。 而如果真的发生坠毁,残骸的搜寻可能持续非常长的时间。在大海里搜寻一架飞机的难度不亚于海底捞针,尤其夜间搜救的难度会加大。 注:民航历史上法航447就是在飞跃大西洋的上空时忽然失踪,6月1日宣布失踪,直到6月7日巴西军方找到了飞机垂尾并根据编号确认是法航447航班,航空公司才正式宣布飞机坠毁。此时已经过去了超过140小时。 三、为何飞行员没有发出求救信号及时与地面联络? 原则上,飞行员发出危险信号非常容易,比如在无线电中呼叫MAY DAY,或者用应答机发射代码,7500代表劫机、7700代表故障。 不过911之后FAA提高了飞机的适航标准,飞机的驾驶舱门即使凭借手枪也无法突破,因此飞行员在没有发出求救信号后飞机就失踪,代表着该航班遇见了不可控的突发问题。机组人员忙于去应付这种状况,乃至没有发出求救信号的时间,甚至不排除飞机爆炸空中解体的可能。 但看到事发时间的卫星云图,尽管地处热带,但该海域天气比较“干净”,至少现在可以排除遭遇热带风暴的可能。
目前搜索地带已阔展:
又一天过去了,搜索无果,搜索地区已经向左方陆地和海区阔展。相信最后一定会找到。美国舆论已经讨论改进黑盒子办法,比如即时和卫星通信,跳出设计,理由还不改进是没钱。
CNN最新报道两个持假护照登机的伊朗人用伊朗护照进入马来西亚,但又说可能不是恐怖分子。
由于马来西亚当局智商问题,失联飞机仍无下落,搜索力量越来越大,搜索面积不断扩增。
教训:绝对不要和智商低的猪做队友,事倍功半。
NYT:
Gen. Rodzali Daud, the Malaysian air force chief, said Wednesday that the military was not certain that its radar had detected the jetliner heading west across the peninsula. He declined to offer another explanation for the coincidence of an unidentified blip suddenly appearing on military radar screens after Flight 370 stopped transmitting its identification signal to civilian ground controllers 40 minutes into its flight.
“Today we are still not sure that it is the same aircraft,” Hishammuddin Hussein, the country’s defense minister, told reporters. “That is why we are searching in two areas.”
Malaysia is sharing the radar data with officials from American agencies, including the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board. Spokesmen for those agencies declined to comment on Wednesday, referring inquiries to the Malaysian authorities.
If experts determine that the radar signals probably did reflect the movements of Flight 370, the search for the plane is likely to be expanded to vast new areas of the Indian Ocean. The final blip came from about 200 miles northwest of Penang at 2:15 a.m. local time on Saturday, General Rodzali said, adding that the data showed the aircraft at an altitude of 29,500 feet. That is near the missing plane’s usual cruising altitude: When its pilots were last heard from around 1:30 a.m., it was cruising at 35,000 feet. The jet, a Boeing 777, was fueled for a six-hour flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, a journey of more than 2,500 miles.
“I have no feeling for what happened to this plane,” said David Learmount, operations and safety editor at Flightglobal, a Britain-based aviation news and data service. “The number of possibilities is so massive that it’s completely pointless.”
The existence of the radar data suggests that the Malaysian authorities may have missed a chance to send military jets to intercept, identify and track the plane as it passed over the country. General Rodzali said interceptors were not scrambled because the unidentified plane appeared to be a civilian aircraft and was not seen as hostile.
For days, official statements had put the last known contact with Flight 370 almost an hour earlier, at about 1:30 a.m. The aircraft’s transponders, which automatically transmit identifying information and some other data about the plane, including altitude, apparently ceased to function at 1:21 a.m.; after that, radar screens would show the plane only as an unidentified blip. Certain weather conditions, and even flocks of birds, can occasionally cause radar blips that may be mistaken for aircraft.
An American aviation official noted that the statement from Malaysian officials on Wednesday indicated that they were still searching for the plane on both sides of the peninsula. If the plane did turn west as the radar blips suggest, the official said, there would be no reason to keep searching on the eastern side.
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Bless飞机上的所有人!
Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
6个小时前就失联了?
失联,空管联系不到这个飞机,在没有找到,没有任何证据的情况下只能这么说,基本上最大的可能就是出事了,
一般都是起飞或者降落前后比较危险,这个是半道上啊。。。
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希望没事啊!!
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我一开始还担心又是恐怖事件。
完全可能啊 坠机的话一瞬间 就失去联系了
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好吓人,CNN也报了。这两天刚做了好几次飞机。
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