Greek Tanker Finds Possible Debris of Missing Malaysia flight 370 By Scoop2010 | Posted 5 hours ago 5 Share
Greek Tanker ELKA Athina steamed to area of possible wreckage of Malaysia Flight 370, missing for about a week now.
The debris was found in the Strait of Malacca at latitude 0550 N and longitude 09657.4 east.
Dimitris Zambelis is the Captain of ELKA Athina and Dimitris Karagiannis is vice-captain of the Greek tanker, owned by European Product Carriers and Greek tycoon Karnezis.
The Boeing 777 was enroute to Beijing, China from Kuala Lampur, Malaysia and has been missing for 8 days now.
Items discovered were floating suitcases and debris that appears to be from the ill fated 777.
Delta Plane Loses Wing Panel During Flight COLLAPSE STORY A panel on one of the wings on a Delta aircraft fell off during a flight from Orlando, Fla., to Atlanta, Ga., on Sunday, according to the airline.
The detached panel did not impact the aircraft's ability to fly or land, Delta spokesman Anthony Black said of Flight 2412.
Wing panel falls off of Delta planeTODAY
"The crew, knowing that, followed procedure by declaring an emergency to air traffic control as they were landing, which gave them priority clearance to land and alerted ground crews," Black said.
The aircraft landed uneventfully at 7:30 p.m. Sunday and taxied to the gate. None of the 179 passengers and six crew members aboard the flight was injured.
The airline is inspecting the plane to determine why the panel came off.
Delta Plane Loses Wing Panel During Flight COLLAPSE STORY A panel on one of the wings on a Delta aircraft fell off during a flight from Orlando, Fla., to Atlanta, Ga., on Sunday, according to the airline.
The detached panel did not impact the aircraft's ability to fly or land, Delta spokesman Anthony Black said of Flight 2412.
Wing panel falls off of Delta planeTODAY
"The crew, knowing that, followed procedure by declaring an emergency to air traffic control as they were landing, which gave them priority clearance to land and alerted ground crews," Black said.
The aircraft landed uneventfully at 7:30 p.m. Sunday and taxied to the gate. None of the 179 passengers and six crew members aboard the flight was injured.
The airline is inspecting the plane to determine why the panel came off.
First published March 16th 2014, 11:50 pm 杨伟南 发表于 3/17/2014 11:45:44 PM
Missing Jet's U-Turn Programmed Before Signoff, Sources Say COLLAPSE STORY BY TOM COSTELLO The missing Malaysia Airlines jet's abrupt U-turn was programmed into the on-board computer well before the co-pilot calmly signed off with air traffic controllers, sources tell NBC News.
The change in direction was made at least 12 minutes before co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid said "All right, good night," to controllers on the ground, the sources said.
In fact, several people on the ground or at sea claimed they saw Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 before it went missing after its post-midnight takeoff from Kuala Lumpur on March 8.
The purported eyewitnesses include fishermen, an oil rig worker and islanders in an atoll. Some even alleged they saw it crash.
While none of their claims have been substantiated, their assertions add to the ongoing mystery of the missing Boeing 777 and the 239 people aboard.
Sighting claim: Kota Bharu, Malaysia
In the middle of the night, two fishermen near the Malaysia-Thailand border saw a plane flying low over the South China Sea -- at the same time that air traffic controllers lost contact with Flight 370 over the same body of water, at 1:30 a.m. or almost 50 minutes after takeoff.
Fisherman Azid Ibrahim and a friend had taken people fishing that night off the coast of Kota Bharu.
"I was fishing when I saw the plane -- it looked strange. Flying low. I told my friend that's not normal. Normally, it flies at 35,000 feet. But that night it touched the clouds. I thought the pilot must be crazy," Ibrahim said.
"It was really low. I saw the lights they looked like the size of a coconut," he said.
Their fishing grounds lay under a flight path, but the predawn plane was unusual to see because of its low altitude, they said.
The fishermen filed a police report about their sighting, but Malaysian officials haven't commented.
Sighting claim: Oil rig off Vietnam
A New Zealand man working on an oil rig off Vietnam claimed he saw a burning object in the sky Saturday morning, hours after the plane had taken off.
Mike McKay of New Zealand was stationed on the Sona-Mercur oil rig on seas about 186 miles southeast of Vung Tau, a coastal Vietnamese town outside Ho Chi Minh City, according to CNN affiliate Radio New Zealand.
McKay wrote of his sighting in an e-mail, the news outlet said.
"Gentlemen. I believe I saw the Malaysian Airlines flight come down. The timing is right. I tried to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese officials several days ago. But I do not know if the message has been received," he wrote last week. "I observed the plane burning at high altitude at a compass bearing of 265 to 275 degrees from our surface location.
"While I observed (the plane) it appeared to be in one piece. From when I first saw the burning (plane?) until the flames went out (at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds. There was no lateral movement so it was either coming toward our position stationary (falling) or going away from our location. The general position of the observation was perpendicular/south-west of the normal flight path and at a lower altitude than the normal flight paths," he wrote.
In fact, Vietnamese authorities dispatched aircraft last week to search for the plane, in response to McKay's report, the affiliate reported.
When the Vietnamese navy sent a plane to conduct a search, it found nothing, ABC News reported. Vietnamese naval officer Le Minh Thanh told that network that the plane investigated the area cited by McKay, but the search came up empty.
Sighting claim: Maldives atoll
On a remote island in the Maldives, residents claimed they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" the same morning that the Malaysia plane disappeared, according to the website of the Maldivian news outlet Haveeru.
Residents on the isle of Kuda Huvadhoo in the Dhaalu Atoll gave a description that matched the commercial airliners: white with red stripes, according to the news outlet.
"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," an unidentified eyewitness said, according to Haveeru. "It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."
These claims, published in a story Tuesday, were dismissed by Malaysian officials.
The Maldives coast guard told CNN it had no reports of such sightings and had not even been requested to conduct a search.
The acting Malaysian transport minister also declared the reports false.
"I can confirm that the Malaysian Chief of the Defense Force has contacted his counterpart in the Maldives, who has confirmed that these reports are not true," Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said at a press conference.
The Maldives Ministry of Defense and National Security also confirmed that their radar systems and surveillance mechanisms show no indication of the missing plane.
Sighting claim: Off Indonesia coast
Indonesian fishermen claim they saw an airplane crash around the Strait of Malacca on the morning of March 9 -- more than a full day after the Malaysian plane took off -- the Indonesian state news agency Antara reported late Monday.
The strait lies between Indonesia and Malaysia. The Indonesia fishermen, based in the North Sumatra provincial subdistrict of Pangkalan Susu, went to sea for a week of fishing on March 9, a Sunday.
At 11 a.m., they saw a plane crash, Antara reported.
"We saw an airplane crash around the Malacca Straits," a fisherman identified as Hendra said, according to Antara.
The fishermen saw a white plane crossing and circling, Antara reported. Smoke came from the plane's right rear portion when it circled for a second round and tilted to the left, the agency said.
Flying lower, the plane then fell from sight.
"We suspect the plane crashed into the sea," Hendra said, according to Antara. "We could not go to the location where the aircraft was lost due to large waves, and the boat did not have enough fuel."
The aircraft is believed to have crashed in waters off the Aceh provincial district of East Aceh.
But there are two problems with these fishermen's account.
They spotted the plane more than 24 hours after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
And Indonesian military officials said their radar didn't spot Flight 370.
The Jakarta Post reported that Indonesian air force spokesman Air Commodore Hadi Tjahjanto said the Air Force's radar in Lhokseumawe, Aceh, didn't detect the missing flight in the area that the Malaysian military suggested was the plane's last detected position, around Penang waters.
"Our radar information has been shared with our Malaysian counterparts," the air force spokesman added, according to the Jakarta Post.
In fact, several people on the ground or at sea claimed they saw Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 before it went missing after its post-midnight takeoff from Kuala Lumpur on March 8.
The purported eyew...... 杨伟南 发表于 3/19/2014 11:32:32 PM
我们还据此分析出劫机者牛B，各国雷达分布都清楚的很。
[quote]高度突降突升不是说躲雷达吗？
我们还据此分析出劫机者牛B，各国雷达分布都清楚的很。
[color=#999999]sisiying 发表于 3/15/2014 11:56:25 AM [/color][/quote]
六大迹象显示遭劫 或已在印度洋上耗尽燃油(图)
机长在无线通信向马航最后说alright good night前，飞机上雷达反馈信号已经被关掉。
因为事先关掉transponder，意味这是计划好的行动。
也可能不是暗号，马航外劫持人应付回答；也可能是马航机长不职业的回答。
但确认是谁的声音至关重要，说明谁在当时控制飞机。
感情在家就练这个呢
他同时披露，这架飞机的操控者熟知马来西亚与周边地区的地理信息，以及民用、军事雷达部署情况。
这位军官表示，有多种证据显示，从凌晨1点30分之后，该航班开始低空飞行，以避开雷达监测。这架飞机于1点30分左右开始降低高度、转弯，甚至可以推断这架飞机当时顺时针方向转了一圈。
实际上，在1点30分前后，的确有多起目击者称见到一家低空飞行的飞机。哥达巴鲁警方曾接到四起相关报告。报告的渔民均称，这架飞机当时正在低空向北飞行。当时哥达巴鲁警方发言人曾向腾讯财经表示，向北飞行意味着向飞机在向南中国海方向前进，是在正确的航线上。MH370自吉隆坡出发至北京的正确的航向，应该是向北偏西。
这位军官称，本地渔民口中通常所指的向北，实际上是偏马来西亚与泰国交汇的陆地方向，是向北偏东。这意味着，哥达巴鲁目击者看到飞机时，MH370或已偏离了航线。
而在哥达巴鲁北方的一个欧洲公司的海上钻井平台上的工作人员，也曾报告说有飞机低空向，方向是西南方向。那个钻井平台所在的位置，是整个航班航行已知踪迹最北点。
MH370自失去联系的Igari导航点，经过前述海上钻井平台，再至哥达巴鲁上空，转了一圈之后沿着马来西亚、泰国边境处低空向西飞行。此前路透引述消息人士的话称，MH370经过Igari的时间是1点21分。
尽管这时MH370已经可以避开航空雷达，但仍在马来西亚军方雷达侦测范围内。
这位军官称，MH370的操控者选择的后续路径，一开始沿着马来西亚、泰国交界处飞行，然后沿着前段交界线向西偏南直飞到槟城。经过槟城后调整方向，向西偏北方向飞过Paulau Perak小岛。MH370选择的此段航线，地面上均有航标灯可供操控者掌握航向。
他表示，MH370从Igari折回直到槟城的航线，军事雷达上都有它的飞行记录。
这位军官透露，根据这架飞机的路线、高度的复杂调整信息，可以看出操控者对军事雷达、航空雷达的侦测能力非常清楚，并且通过飞行高度的控制，对油耗与躲避雷达之间也做了极佳平衡。
根据马来西亚军方雷达数据显示，MH370在Igari低空折返之后，经过马来西亚与泰国边境的陆地时，飞机爬升到了正常巡航高度，这是因为该高度比较节省航油。马来西亚大陆上有很多2000-3000米的山地，飞机低空飞行较为危险。
雷达显示，MH370经过槟城来到海面上空之后逐渐降低了飞行高度。
MH370在经过Paulau Perak小岛后，军事雷达上信号一度消失。最后在与Langkawi平行纬度的地方上一个名为Vampi的导航点上，这架飞机再次短暂出现。这是MH370进入安达曼海之后最后一次出现信号的地方。
这位军官解释称，MH370在Paulau Perak附近开始下降，是为将高度降低到了军事雷达也不能侦测到的区域。经过一段低空飞行之后，MH370已到达马来西亚军事雷达侦测的边界，飞机操控者为了省油将飞机高度提升。在提升的过程中，刚好短暂经过马方雷达侦测的最远处。
经过Vampi之后，这架飞机就进入了各国雷达监控不到的海域。
这位军官分析称，这架飞机有两个可能的航向，一个是往西走，至索马里；一个是往北面走，先后经过泰国、缅甸等国边境处，至蒙古南部。蒙古方向的线路，正好是经过几个国家的边境处，均为雷达监测薄弱地带。
他表示，在航空界有一个常识，索马里和蒙古南部，是世界上两个不需要目标国同意就有着陆可能的地方，其中索马里处于事实无政府状态，而蒙古南部则有供走私犯使用的秘密机场。（腾讯财经 黄媛 发自马来西亚哥打巴鲁）
美国情报机构现在倾向于机长和马航370失踪有关。
【CNN：为什么不是飞行员自杀？】很多人将此次客机失联与之前飞行员自杀导致的空难联系起来。但CNN连线专家称，若飞行员想自杀，本可以在飞行开始阶段选择坠毁，但本次客机失联后仍持续飞行数小时。因此控制飞机的人应是想飞往某个既定区域，但最后很可能因某种原因无法到达而坠毁。（新浪）
如果北飞，投奔某基地组织，如果需要用乘客做谈判条件，乘客存活还有希望。
如果南飞，降落某岛，被发现希望较大。
【视频：失联航班机长朋友称扎赫里是敬业机师】随着调查方向转变，搜救的同时调查组也开始排查机组成员及其家人。CNN采访了机长扎赫里的朋友，他表示机长会在模拟器上给自己设定不同的情节去体验。他虽不能担保其他机组成员，但坚持认为扎赫里是一位非常热爱飞行的敬业机师。 @管鑫http ://huaren.us/8s2mCd7
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【ABC：失联客机曾做出“战术躲避动作”】ABC报道，美国情报官员今天称，最新信息显示，MH370从雷达消失后做出了战术躲避动作，正调查至少一名飞行员参与此事的可能性。美国官员称，只有飞行或工程经验丰富的人才能做出这些动作，怀疑此举旨在避免被雷达发现。但不排除飞行员受胁迫可能性。（新浪）
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【马警方搜查失联班机副驾驶住所】据马新社报道，马警方昨日下午结束对客机机长和副机长家的搜查，媒体被禁止进入现场。据悉调查将包括机长和副驾驶政治和宗教倾向，他们的出行方式、爱好和行为。调查人员在其住所中逗留了大约一个半小时，并带走了副驾驶的两名家属。 http://huaren.us/8s2RyYu
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【马航称在北京失联乘客家属可自行选择去留】上午10点，马航发言人在丽都饭店向在场家属表示，家属们可以自行选择继续留京守候、前往马来西亚或是回到自己家中，马航都会做出相应安排；马航将于17日起每晚6点在住有家属的北京各酒店由专人与他们沟通，但不能发表航班调查信息。 http://huaren.us/8s2B9Bu
【失联客机机长是政治狂热分子？】英国每日邮报报道，调查人员称，失联客机机长沙阿是马反对派领导人安瓦尔-易卜拉欣铁杆支持者。警方认为他可能在客机起飞前数小时参加了易卜拉欣的庭审。庭审判处易卜拉欣5年监禁。消息人员透露，警方曾从沙阿家取走两台电脑，一台含有其家中飞行模拟器的数据。(新浪)
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Greek Tanker ELKA Athina steamed to area of possible wreckage of Malaysia Flight 370, missing for about a week now.
The debris was found in the Strait of Malacca at latitude 0550 N and longitude 09657.4 east.
Dimitris Zambelis is the Captain of ELKA Athina and Dimitris Karagiannis is vice-captain of the Greek tanker, owned by European Product Carriers and Greek tycoon Karnezis.
The Boeing 777 was enroute to Beijing, China from Kuala Lampur, Malaysia and has been missing for 8 days now.
Items discovered were floating suitcases and debris that appears to be from the ill fated 777.
Sources:
http://www.grreporter.info/en/greek_tanker_has_detected_possible_traces_missing_flight_%CE%BC%CE%B7370/10858
Numerous Twitter Reports
啥态度？是暗示有生还机会么？即使如此，大家这一周多的煎熬呢，不要道歉？
然后发现看到你的id。。。。
Delta Plane Loses Wing Panel During Flight
COLLAPSE STORY
A panel on one of the wings on a Delta aircraft fell off during a flight from Orlando, Fla., to Atlanta, Ga., on Sunday, according to the airline.
The detached panel did not impact the aircraft's ability to fly or land, Delta spokesman Anthony Black said of Flight 2412.
Wing panel falls off of Delta planeTODAY
"The crew, knowing that, followed procedure by declaring an emergency to air traffic control as they were landing, which gave them priority clearance to land and alerted ground crews," Black said.
The aircraft landed uneventfully at 7:30 p.m. Sunday and taxied to the gate. None of the 179 passengers and six crew members aboard the flight was injured.
The airline is inspecting the plane to determine why the panel came off.
First published March 16th 2014, 11:50 pm
1.客机失联第12天，黑匣子电池的30天寿命已经用了1/3。
2.白宫否认失踪航班降落美国基地。
3.中国家属称，如果马方不提供更多有效信息，将绝食抗议。
4.飞行员此前曾飞过北边走廊航线，但其电脑和邮件中无证据显示其筹划失联事件。
5.中国集中搜寻北部走廊区域。印尼拒绝搜救飞机入境。
6.联合国机构未监测到飞机爆炸或坠毁。
上次法航失事不是黑匣子花了2年才打捞起来的吗？不存在30天电池没有了的问题吧。
Missing Jet's U-Turn Programmed Before Signoff, Sources Say
COLLAPSE STORY
BY TOM COSTELLO
The missing Malaysia Airlines jet's abrupt U-turn was programmed into the on-board computer well before the co-pilot calmly signed off with air traffic controllers, sources tell NBC News.
The change in direction was made at least 12 minutes before co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid said "All right, good night," to controllers on the ground, the sources said.
如果劫机，机长可以利用这机会说暗号。
如果劫机，机长可以利用这机会说暗号。
不像啊。
迪戈加西亚岛机场跑道
迪戈加西亚岛机场跑道
The purported eyewitnesses include fishermen, an oil rig worker and islanders in an atoll. Some even alleged they saw it crash.
While none of their claims have been substantiated, their assertions add to the ongoing mystery of the missing Boeing 777 and the 239 people aboard.
Sighting claim: Kota Bharu, Malaysia
In the middle of the night, two fishermen near the Malaysia-Thailand border saw a plane flying low over the South China Sea -- at the same time that air traffic controllers lost contact with Flight 370 over the same body of water, at 1:30 a.m. or almost 50 minutes after takeoff.
Fisherman Azid Ibrahim and a friend had taken people fishing that night off the coast of Kota Bharu.
"I was fishing when I saw the plane -- it looked strange. Flying low. I told my friend that's not normal. Normally, it flies at 35,000 feet. But that night it touched the clouds. I thought the pilot must be crazy," Ibrahim said.
"It was really low. I saw the lights they looked like the size of a coconut," he said.
Their fishing grounds lay under a flight path, but the predawn plane was unusual to see because of its low altitude, they said.
The fishermen filed a police report about their sighting, but Malaysian officials haven't commented.
Sighting claim: Oil rig off Vietnam
A New Zealand man working on an oil rig off Vietnam claimed he saw a burning object in the sky Saturday morning, hours after the plane had taken off.
Mike McKay of New Zealand was stationed on the Sona-Mercur oil rig on seas about 186 miles southeast of Vung Tau, a coastal Vietnamese town outside Ho Chi Minh City, according to CNN affiliate Radio New Zealand.
McKay wrote of his sighting in an e-mail, the news outlet said.
"Gentlemen. I believe I saw the Malaysian Airlines flight come down. The timing is right. I tried to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese officials several days ago. But I do not know if the message has been received," he wrote last week. "I observed the plane burning at high altitude at a compass bearing of 265 to 275 degrees from our surface location.
"While I observed (the plane) it appeared to be in one piece. From when I first saw the burning (plane?) until the flames went out (at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds. There was no lateral movement so it was either coming toward our position stationary (falling) or going away from our location. The general position of the observation was perpendicular/south-west of the normal flight path and at a lower altitude than the normal flight paths," he wrote.
In fact, Vietnamese authorities dispatched aircraft last week to search for the plane, in response to McKay's report, the affiliate reported.
When the Vietnamese navy sent a plane to conduct a search, it found nothing, ABC News reported. Vietnamese naval officer Le Minh Thanh told that network that the plane investigated the area cited by McKay, but the search came up empty.
Sighting claim: Maldives atoll
On a remote island in the Maldives, residents claimed they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" the same morning that the Malaysia plane disappeared, according to the website of the Maldivian news outlet Haveeru.
Residents on the isle of Kuda Huvadhoo in the Dhaalu Atoll gave a description that matched the commercial airliners: white with red stripes, according to the news outlet.
"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," an unidentified eyewitness said, according to Haveeru. "It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."
These claims, published in a story Tuesday, were dismissed by Malaysian officials.
The Maldives coast guard told CNN it had no reports of such sightings and had not even been requested to conduct a search.
The acting Malaysian transport minister also declared the reports false.
"I can confirm that the Malaysian Chief of the Defense Force has contacted his counterpart in the Maldives, who has confirmed that these reports are not true," Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said at a press conference.
The Maldives Ministry of Defense and National Security also confirmed that their radar systems and surveillance mechanisms show no indication of the missing plane.
Sighting claim: Off Indonesia coast
Indonesian fishermen claim they saw an airplane crash around the Strait of Malacca on the morning of March 9 -- more than a full day after the Malaysian plane took off -- the Indonesian state news agency Antara reported late Monday.
The strait lies between Indonesia and Malaysia. The Indonesia fishermen, based in the North Sumatra provincial subdistrict of Pangkalan Susu, went to sea for a week of fishing on March 9, a Sunday.
At 11 a.m., they saw a plane crash, Antara reported.
"We saw an airplane crash around the Malacca Straits," a fisherman identified as Hendra said, according to Antara.
The fishermen saw a white plane crossing and circling, Antara reported. Smoke came from the plane's right rear portion when it circled for a second round and tilted to the left, the agency said.
Flying lower, the plane then fell from sight.
"We suspect the plane crashed into the sea," Hendra said, according to Antara. "We could not go to the location where the aircraft was lost due to large waves, and the boat did not have enough fuel."
The aircraft is believed to have crashed in waters off the Aceh provincial district of East Aceh.
But there are two problems with these fishermen's account.
They spotted the plane more than 24 hours after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
And Indonesian military officials said their radar didn't spot Flight 370.
The Jakarta Post reported that Indonesian air force spokesman Air Commodore Hadi Tjahjanto said the Air Force's radar in Lhokseumawe, Aceh, didn't detect the missing flight in the area that the Malaysian military suggested was the plane's last detected position, around Penang waters.
"Our radar information has been shared with our Malaysian counterparts," the air force spokesman added, according to the Jakarta Post.
【分析解读：P-8A接收到较强雷达回波说明什么？】美军P-8A“波塞冬”反潜巡逻机，它是在波音737-700宽体客机基础上改装而成。与此次搜索任务相关的设备是APY-10水面监视雷达。APY-10主要用于搜索、跟踪海面舰艇和潜艇通气管，它也可以发现海面上体积较大的漂浮物。媒体最新报道称，抵达相关海域美军P-8A收到较强雷达回波，这说明它已发现漂浮物。
Wing span: 60.9 metres
Overall length: 63.7 metres
Tail height: 18.5 metres
Fuselage diameter: 6.19 metres
我的ID有什么问题吗
不懂为什么中国的舆论还是注重这种毫无意义的数量比较，做事成功靠的不是数量多大，还是有效的方法和结果。典型的红豆思维。
据称，电话由驾驶舱里拨出。美方人员将彻查这一电话，并可能于近日将机长家中发现的飞行模拟器和电脑硬盘等移送至FBI总部鉴定。
根据卫星收到ping的信号的途径，计算出失联飞机飞行途径，飞机应该飞回马来西亚领空，这和马方说的军方雷达的发现结果不一致！
我想问问这个雷达回波最后怎么没找到那个大规模物体呢？？？