1) I paid the application fee twice! (The application fee is for the leasing office) Once for their appartment, once for my current appartment. We are not in the same village. Our villages belongs to the same company. But the application fee can not be transfered.
2) On the first application (the sublease one), since we went together to the office, I list them as the referee for this perticular apartment. Then they changed their mind, and we never go to sign the lease. I found the current apartment in another village myself. How could it ever possible I will put their name as referee.
3) They knew that I won't be the only one person living in the apartment on their visit to Houston (One week before we move). They didn't change their mind at that time. They didn't changed mind on the morning I moved.
4) Let me confirm the baby sitting stuff even though this is not related. My aunt visited US to attend my graduation ceremony. Her plan stay is one and a half month. At first, my parents don't want to sent my daughter to daycare. They want to ask my aunt to stay and find another child. That's why I post the baby-sitting list. But I still prefered to send my daughter to daycare (and already got one). That's why my aunt left as schedule.
5) I never want to cheat the other lz. Therefore I never hide any facts. They can decide whether or not they want to sublease.
6) Without subleasing, we're just strangers. Leave me alone and don't ask for the referee bonus.
7) I don't know what this means. They never mention split. I'd rather ignore such amount of money and get my peace.
8) A brief timeline. (I don't remember the date exactly, but won't differ more than 1day) Dec. 28 or so me and my husband went to Dallas for apartment hunting, also see their apartment too. Dec.29: We decided to sublease their apartment. Two couples went to the leasing office together. And we know that their name cannot be removed. Jan 1 or so: They came to Houston for their aparment hunting and gave us the key. We paid the Jan. rent to them. Jan 7: I called on the morning to confirm that I was going to move. They said ok. Then I arrived. They changed their mind at 4pm. I found another apartment at 5:30pm. Feb 1: They asked where I live. Feb 7: They asked to be referal.
9) I won't hide any facts. I admit that we ask them whether they can paid half the rent for the moving day, since we're said they will schedule the moving company to come only on the same day. We also asked whether we don't need to pay the full deposit, since almost half leasing period had passed. They didn't agree. Then I said fine, no problem, not a big deal. I'll pay everything in full. The result tells who care about money more. [此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:59:46编辑过]
I'm honored that I can entertain so many folks for an entire day. The issue itself is not a big deal. Different people has different thoughts. That's why our world is full of variety. Nothing is absoluatly right or wrong. All depends on individule's background and desire.
I tried to follow this post as much as possible till now. (just realized that I'm not able to finish today's work). So I can't follow anymore. Feel free to believe whatever you think is the truth. Have a good day.
To the other lz: We don't know each other... We never met... never met... Who are you... Why I'm here...
Answers for some doubt are list in 2nd Lou.
1) I posted "asking for apartment suggestion in Dallas" on mitbbs. They contacted me first, not me "这对极品就看到了，千里迢迢从别的城市赶来". Below is their massage for me on mitbbs.
2) They lied to me saying that they want to sublease the apartment because they're moving out of Dallas. See below two mitbbs post by them. Actually, the wife still stays in Dallas. They want to either sublease their apartment, or find a roomate. In her post, she said they rather to terminate the contract. In fact, they're still living there. I think they find a roomate eventually. http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Texas/31607465.html http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Texas/31608613.html
3) They said they reduced to rent from 980 to 820. That's not true. Their rent is 875 as list in their lease. We both agreed on 810 after I saw their apartment. Since they already lived in that apartment for half the leasing period, I asked them that maybe I should not paid the deposit in full ($200). They told me that usually the apartment complex won't deduct the deposit if you keep the apartment clean. So eventually I agree to pay the full deposit to them ($200).
4) The price for leasing a new apartment of their size is 900~1000 (I found out in the leasing office when I went to lease my own apartment). Their apartment is $875 for 950sqrt, mine apartment now is $1035 for 1250sqrt.
5) On the same day as I went to look at their apartment, we went to sign the new application. Which cose me an application fee. Both of us two couples went to talk with the leasing office. The agent already told us that the husband's name cannot be removed. Both of us agreed.
6) The wife still stays in Dallas, but the husband is going to Houston. He needs to find an apartment for himself in Houston. That's why we scheduled that they can give us one key on their apartment hunting trip. At that day, they gave one set of the keys to us, and we gave them the rent for Jan. "这对极品居然为了省油费，硬要让我们把钥匙送到他家" is not true. Since they were going to Houston, we both agreed that this is the best working plan.
7) It will be me, my 2year old daughter, and my parents living in the apartment. Totally 4 persons. My husband stays in Houston for his job. My aunt came to visit us one month. But already went back to China. I have the air ticket as a proof. We are not baby sitting to earn money. Originally, my parents feel that one child is too lonely and they was thinking to get a same-age child to baby sit. But I decided to sent my daughter to daycare, so we don't baby sit.
8) They came to Houston one week before I moved. If they had any concern or changed their mind, they can always inform me earlier. They didn't even tell me when I called them on the day I was moving.
9) I totally agreed that individule person has his/her own consideration towards this issue. That's why I never feel so bad that they changed their mind. Weather or not they want to sublease is their freedom. And I chose to keep scilent even if they changed their mind at the last mimute after my arrival. The thing really makes me upset is that how can you ask to be my referee after setting me in such a trouble.
10) That couple is smart. They first emailed me whether I find my own apartment. Then they contacted the leasing office themselves without my approval! Please see the following massages they sent me on mitbbs.
**， the hill leasing office的人今天给我打电话，说到推荐的事儿，你能不能去下 leasing office把推荐人写上***,这样好像有$50gift card可以拿，之前他们 是不给的，我打电话去了说了几次才答应给，所以对我们都是好事,麻烦你给说一下,那 个卡是寄来的,需要1-2个月的时间.我们的住址是***.谢谢!
Note: The address they provided is the old address, which means that they never thought to terminate the apartment.
1) I paid the application fee twice! (The application fee is for the leasing office) Once for their appartment, once for my current appartment. We are not in the same village. Our villages belongs to the same company. But the application fee can not be transfered.
2) On the first application (the sublease one), since we went together to the office, I list them as the referee for this perticular apartment. Then they changed their mind, and we never go to sign the lease. I found the current apartment in another village myself. How could it ever possible I will put their name as referee.
3) They knew that I won't be the only one person living in the apartment on their visit to Houston (One week before we move). They didn't change their mind at that time. They didn't changed mind on the morning I moved.
4) Let me confirm the baby sitting stuff even though this is not related. My aunt visited US to attend my graduation ceremony. Her plan stay is one and a half month. At first, my parents don't want to sent my daughter to daycare. They want to ask my aunt to stay and find another child. That's why I post the baby-sitting list. But I still prefered to send my daughter to daycare (and already got one). That's why my aunt left as schedule.
5) I never want to cheat the other lz. Therefore I never hide any facts. They can decide whether or not they want to sublease.
6) Without subleasing, we're just strangers. Leave me alone and don't ask for the referee bonus.
7) I don't know what this means. They never mention split. I'd rather ignore such amount of money and get my peace.
8) A brief timeline. (I don't remember the date exactly, but won't differ more than 1day) Dec. 28 or so me and my husband went to Dallas for apartment hunting, also see their apartment too. Dec.29: We decided to sublease their apartment. Two couples went to the leasing office together. And we know that their name cannot be removed. Jan 1 or so: They came to Houston for their aparment hunting and gave us the key. We paid the Jan. rent to them. Jan 7: I called on the morning to confirm that I was going to move. They said ok. Then I arrived. They changed their mind at 4pm. I found another apartment at 5:30pm. Feb 1: They asked where I live. Feb 7: They asked to be referal.
9) I won't hide any facts. I admit that we ask them whether they can paid half the rent for the moving day, since we're said they will schedule the moving company to come only on the same day. We also asked whether we don't need to pay the full deposit, since almost half leasing period had passed. They didn't agree. Then I said fine, no problem, not a big deal. I'll pay everything in full. The result tells who care about money more. [此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:59:46编辑过]
恩，我感觉二房东喜欢打肚皮官司，算计都在自己心里；我如果是她，对房租不满，又那么多人啥的，早就不租了，何苦搞到最后来放鸽子
退租直接和物业打交道就好了，该怎么办就怎么办，最后停租似乎也只罚了一个月的租金而已。如果租给ＬＺ， 每个月损失１６０， 半年也有一个月的房租了。还要承担连带责任的风险，何苦来哉
二房东自己临时反悔，我觉得应该退还人家申请费。
而且二房东都自己own营业部，应该也不缺十几刀，还了算了，吵啥啊。
嗯
你厉害，哈哈
那个ＬＺ老公讨价还价说交接房子那天付半天房租的，二房东说的是真的还是假的？
其实也没有啥，如果二房东不是一大清早就搬空了的话
退租直接和物业打交道就好了，该怎么办就怎么办，最后停租似乎也只罚了一个月的租金而已。如果租给ＬＺ， 每个月损失１６０， 半年也有一个月的房租了。还要承担连带责任的风险，何苦来哉
感觉这才是二房东最后反悔的真正原因。
其实也没有啥，如果二房东不是一大清早就搬空了的话
晚上谁睡在那里归谁付吧。
退租直接和物业打交道就好了，该怎么办就怎么办，最后停租似乎也只罚了一个月的租金而已。如果租给ＬＺ， 每个月损失１６０， 半年也有一个月的房租了。还要承担连带责任的风险，何苦来哉
有一个看贴不仔细的
二房东本来的价格就不是980，是875貌似
3) They said they reduced to rent from 980 to 820. That's not true. Their rent is 875 as list in their lease.
我真闲今天，厚厚
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:45:04编辑过]
感觉这才是二房东最后反悔的真正原因。
最后想通了，但还是不能忘情于那５０ＧＣ
这件事情真没有多极品，我觉得都各自有各自的想法吧。
二房东最后一刻反悔，不厚道，应该退还十几刀申请费，甚至给予楼主必要的补偿，毕竟人家本来是准备住进来的。
如果二房东态度好一些，没准楼主真会答应refer fee各分一半，大家继续面子上好看呢。
有一个看贴不仔细的
二房东本来的价格就不是980，是875貌似
那真是宁可赔本也不愿意租给ＬＺ了。
二房东没觉得自己替楼主省了申请费，是楼主觉得自己申请费白出了，看引用“3） 当初决定sublease时，提交了application，交了fee。这个fee我也白出了。”，实际上她并没有白出，对吧，虽然sublease没成，但是后来申请房子没有再缴钱了，相当于楼主交一次钱拿到一套房子。ref fee，根据二房东说是楼主自己找房子的时候，由于是同一家物业，因此把二房东列为ref，所以才来要钱的，这个楼主还没说到底咋回事。显然是你没明白啊。
再看更新，lz明说付了两次application fee，你明白了不？？还说别人不明白……
嗨，买卖不成仁义在，吵啥啊。
这件事情真没有多极品，我觉得都各自有各自的想法吧。
二房东最后一刻反悔，不厚道，应该退还十几刀申请费，甚至给予楼主必要的补偿，毕竟人家本来是准备住进来的。
如果二房东态度好一些，没准楼主真会答应refer fee各分一半，大家继续面子上好看呢。
以下是引用sharbelm在2/14/2012 3:46:00 PM的发言：
那真是宁可赔本也不愿意租给ＬＺ了。
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 18:24:54编辑过]
再看更新，lz明说付了两次application fee，你明白了不？？还说别人不明白……
没错，我就是没看见楼主得更新，你自己看看，除了我，看到楼主更新前有多少人说你自己糊涂了，还说别人呢。。。
跟不上了，把自己绕糊涂了，反正就记住了dallas有个green in village。。。 汗，搞不好真是打广告来的
哈哈哈哈，我也记住这个了，而且似乎还是个不错的地方，以后如果要搬去休斯顿，可以考虑去那里找房子哦
以下是引用joyia在2/14/2012 3:50:00 PM的发言：
哈哈哈哈，我也记住这个了，而且似乎还是个不错的地方，以后如果要搬去休斯顿，可以考虑去那里找房子哦
哈哈哈哈，我也记住这个了，而且似乎还是个不错的地方，以后如果要搬去休斯顿，可以考虑去那里找房子哦
说不定溜弯还能碰到双方lz
我怎么觉得这个想法可以理解，汗
you are not alone...same 汗
没错,她一开始说开车280mile去给人家送钥匙,被人抓住疑问才补充是顺便去那个城市,再然后事实是,送钥匙是其次,主要是拿一月份的租金
对，这个二房东给我的感觉就是跟本不是木讷；很多东西大家觉得她开始怎么说的不清楚啊，后来发现是因为说清楚了对她不利撒！
以下是引用ForeverSunshine在2/14/2012 1:41:00 PM的发言：
去个老公，也还有原lz+孩子+父母+姨妈+babysit 的孩子，5-6人
哈哈哈哈，我也记住这个了，而且似乎还是个不错的地方，以后如果要搬去休斯顿，可以考虑去那里找房子哦
原来是 Green in Village 的广告贴啊！！实在是高！！
对，这个二房东给我的感觉就是跟本不是木讷；很多东西大家觉得她开始怎么说的不清楚啊，后来发现是因为说清楚了对她不利撒！
没错,二房东自己小算盘劈哩叭啦打的好的很
哈哈，看来你被绕的不行，别人明明在dallas，不在houston
哈哈哈哈，终于被彻底绕晕，达拉斯才有the green in village哦
应该是送完钥匙之后，否则不make sense
哟，又看到您老人家了。
您怎么又看帖不仔细捏，我刚才看到这个贴，本楼lz一楼就写了，二房东是在和本楼lz一起去签sublease的合同的时候（也就是lz要把自己的名字放进lease，交application的时候）就知道了二房东老公的名字是不能拿下来的。可能后来二房东顺便送钥匙的时候发现lz家里人口比较多，害怕所有人都住过来万一把房子弄坏了，自己因为名字也在lease上而需要负责。所以心里有点打鼓，那这个时候就应该不租了，至少要再回去考虑一下到底是租还是不租，为啥一定还要把这个交易的过程完成（给钥匙＋收房租）捏。
这个钥匙也还蛮奇怪的，既然都是通过了leasing office走的正轨的程序，为啥leasing office不能给他们钥匙呢，既然是被加到了lease里面，给个钥匙也行吧。
二房东回到家之后，也一直没有告诉lz不租了，lz自以为完成了一切手续就等入住了。人家大老远携家带口开车过去，开到家门口了，二房东说不租了。这个实在是太不厚道了吧，找过apartment的人都知道在不熟的地方想找个apartment，而且最好能当天赶紧入住也不是那么容易的不是么？lz在附近找自己找了个地方住下，自己申请，走正轨手续，和二房东完全无关。结果后来二房东知道是同一家公司下的房子，居然去要求分refer fee（我的理解是lz没有写是二房东refer的，是二房东自己打电话去leasing office说的，也不知道是不是理解错了）。一个口口声声说本楼lz是“农村来的”的众人推知的有钱人，就为了50刀的refer fee，如此大费周章，真是匪夷所思啊。
lz能不能用中文啊
这个好玩。。。。。babysit 的孩子也跟别人搬？？？？孩子父母不跟你急~~~~~~
不follow了，二房东比lz更看重钱，（只有特别看重钱的人才会歧视没钱的人）
Re
二房东自知无趣，已然退缩！
现lz更有道理！
不过三人看俩孩。。。不觉得有道理！
。
一个口口声声说本楼lz是“农村来的”的众人推知的有钱人，就为了50刀的refer fee，如此大费周章，真是匪夷所思啊。
re。我觉得这一点特别offensive。别人是农村来的怎么了呢。这也变成攻击点了。
这个好玩。。。。。babysit 的孩子也跟别人搬？？？？孩子父母不跟你急~~~~~~
smart
看总结贴
以下是引用bannie在2/14/2012 4:02:00 PM的发言：
看见大篇英文，
lz能不能用中文啊
这个好玩。。。。。babysit 的孩子也跟别人搬？？？？孩子父母不跟你急~~~~~~
搬到新的地方可以招新的小孩来babysit啊。
To answer some people's doubt:
1) I paid the application fee twice! (The application fee is for the leasing office) Once for their appartment, once for my current appartment. We are not in the same village. Our villages belongs to the same company. But the application fee can not be transfered.
2) On the first application (the sublease one), since we went together to the office, I list them as the referee for this perticular apartment. Then they changed their mind, and we never go to sign the lease. I found the current apartment in another village myself. How could it ever possible I will put their name as referee.
3) They knew that I won't be the only one person living in the apartment on their visit to Houston (One week before we move). They didn't change their mind at that time. They didn't changed mind on the morning I moved.
4) Let me confirm the baby sitting stuff even though this is not related. My aunt visited US to attend my graduation ceremony. Her plan stay is one and a half month. At first, my parents don't want to sent my daughter to daycare. They want to ask my aunt to stay and find another child. That's why I post the baby-sitting list. But I still prefered to send my daughter to daycare (and already got one). That's why my aunt left as schedule.
5) I never want to cheat the other lz. Therefore I never hide any facts. They can decide whether or not they want to sublease.
6) Without subleasing, we're just strangers. Leave me alone and don't ask for the referee bonus.
7) I don't know what this means. They never mention split. I'd rather ignore such amount of money and get my peace.
8) A brief timeline. (I don't remember the date exactly, but won't differ more than 1day)
Dec. 28 or so me and my husband went to Dallas for apartment hunting, also see their apartment too.
Dec.29: We decided to sublease their apartment. Two couples went to the leasing office together. And we know that their name cannot be removed.
Jan 1 or so: They came to Houston for their aparment hunting and gave us the key. We paid the Jan. rent to them.
Jan 7: I called on the morning to confirm that I was going to move. They said ok. Then I arrived. They changed their mind at 4pm. I found another apartment at 5:30pm.
Feb 1: They asked where I live.
Feb 7: They asked to be referal.
9) I won't hide any facts. I admit that we ask them whether they can paid half the rent for the moving day, since we're said they will schedule the moving company to come only on the same day. We also asked whether we don't need to pay the full deposit, since almost half leasing period had passed. They didn't agree. Then I said fine, no problem, not a big deal. I'll pay everything in full. The result tells who care about money more.
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:59:46编辑过]
好几个facts，lz已经在一楼说了，不过这一楼里更加明确。
LZ,我顶你！
哟，又看到您老人家了。
您怎么又看帖不仔细捏，我刚才看到这个贴，本楼lz一楼就写了，二房东是在和本楼lz一起去签sublease的合同的时候（也就是lz要把自己的名字放进lease，交application的时候）就知道了二房东老公的名字是不能拿下来的。可能后来二房东顺便送钥匙的时候发现lz家里人口比较多，害怕所有人都住过来万一把房子弄坏了，自己因为名字也在lease上而需要负责。所以心里有点打鼓，那这个时候就应该不租了，至少要再回去考虑一下到底是租还是不租，为啥一定还要把这个交易的过程完成（给钥匙＋收房租）捏。
这个钥匙也还蛮奇怪的，既然都是通过了leasing office走的正轨的程序，为啥leasing office不能给他们钥匙呢，既然是被加到了lease里面，给个钥匙也行吧。
二房东回到家之后，也一直没有告诉lz不租了，lz自以为完成了一切手续就等入住了。人家大老远携家带口开车过去，开到家门口了，二房东说不租了。这个实在是太不厚道了吧，找过apartment的人都知道在不熟的地方想找个apartment，而且最好能当天赶紧入住也不是那么容易的不是么？lz在附近找自己找了个地方住下，自己申请，走正轨手续，和二房东完全无关。结果后来二房东知道是同一家公司下的房子，居然去要求分refer fee（我的理解是lz没有写是二房东refer的，是二房东自己打电话去leasing office说的，也不知道是不是理解错了）。一个口口声声说本楼lz是“农村来的”的众人推知的有钱人，就为了50刀的refer fee，如此大费周章，真是匪夷所思啊。
是你没赶上直播，ＬＺ是一点一点编辑修改的，我们看的时候还没有写到这些。
看这两个贴我头都晕了
哈哈, 和你头像和相配啊.
对，这个二房东给我的感觉就是跟本不是木讷；很多东西大家觉得她开始怎么说的不清楚啊，后来发现是因为说清楚了对她不利撒！
sharp
一楼更新说父母怕一个小孩孤单想找个小孩来陪那段有点儿搞笑。
其实不搞笑。养过小孩的知道。有娃一起玩挺好的
那别收钱啊，多找小孩来家里玩就好了。大家都知道怎么回事，干嘛说得那么冠冕堂皇。
没错，我就是没看见楼主得更新，你自己看看，除了我，看到楼主更新前有多少人说你自己糊涂了，还说别人呢。。。
但事实证明是我对了啊，lz就是付了两次，人多不代表你们对好吧。就lz这上证据讲理的劲儿，真只交了一次会上来叫吗
是你没赶上直播，ＬＺ是一点一点编辑修改的，我们看的时候还没有写到这些。
我还真是半赶上直播了，我从你刚发贴就回复了，那个时候首页第一楼已经完全出来了，第二楼的关于两次app fee的澄清已经出来了，不过我打字慢，等我打完了，已经又好多页过去了。
但事实证明是我对了啊，lz就是付了两次，人多不代表你们对好吧。就lz这上证据讲理的劲儿，真只交了一次会上来叫吗
那位ID也是只看对二房东有力的话，本帖lz很其实第一楼很多事情（除了两个app fee以外）都已经说出来了，只不过没有一字一句的明确说出来，但是有些事情稍微一推理就出来了。有些人就只理解字面意思：（
不过房租好便宜
有一个看贴不仔细的
二房东本来的价格就不是980，是875貌似
3) They said they reduced to rent from 980 to 820. That's not true. Their rent is 875 as list in their lease.
我真闲今天，厚厚
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:45:04编辑过]
我把875看成了975了，还想，差5块钱还值得说吗
我还是不理解二房东怕人家不还钥匙，谁来解释一下啊。
那个时候二房东还没有说不愿意租，已经受了人家一个月房租了，那她怕啥啊？怕得应该是已经交钱的楼主啊。
以下是引用joyia在2/14/2012 3:14:00 PM的发言：
二房东没觉得自己替楼主省了申请费，是楼主觉得自己申请费白出了，看引用“3） 当初决定sublease时，提交了application，交了fee。这个fee我也白出了。”，实际上她并没有白出，对吧，虽然sublease没成，但是后来申请房子没有再缴钱了，相当于楼主交一次钱拿到一套房子。ref fee，根据二房东说是楼主自己找房子的时候，由于是同一家物业，因此把二房东列为ref，所以才来要钱的，这个楼主还没说到底咋回事。显然是你没明白啊。
哈哈哈哈，我也记住这个了，而且似乎还是个不错的地方，以后如果要搬去休斯顿，可以考虑去那里找房子哦
人家明明说的是dallas。看帖不仔细，打PP。
对，这个二房东给我的感觉就是跟本不是木讷；很多东西大家觉得她开始怎么说的不清楚啊，后来发现是因为说清楚了对她不利撒！
同感
人家明明说的是dallas。看帖不仔细，打PP。
哎唷，都被打了两遍了。。。。我是不是需要去编辑一下啊，后面还有多少酱油党啊
英文好烂 时态介词乱用 看不下去
看懂意思就可以了，8挂而已，又不是写论文。
以下是引用fivezerozero在2/14/2012 3:19:00 PM的发言：
我原来是打酱油的，不过现在觉得还是这个lz更有道理。
她pay了两次application fee，其中第一次的二房东答应还但是没有还。
二房东不管因为什么原因，她自己反悔了，而且手里拿着人家的第一个月房租的时候，担心人家不还钥匙，这是难以想象啊。最后以此在最后一分钟拒绝别人，不厚道啊。
哎唷，都被打了两遍了。。。。我是不是需要去编辑一下啊，后面还有多少酱油党啊
哈哈，快回去改。
俩老婆在dallas，俩老公在houston。
但事实证明是我对了啊，lz就是付了两次，人多不代表你们对好吧。就lz这上证据讲理的劲儿，真只交了一次会上来叫吗
是你正好赶上了ＬＺ写清楚了，ＬＺ只在主贴更新，后面盖楼的没有能及时跑回去刷新，所以没有看到。就好像ＬＺ后来已经把二房东要ref fee的信贴出来了，但大家还在后面干等一样，是个时间差的问题。
来晚了。。。看大篇英文头疼。。。求萨玛瑞。。。
但事实证明是我对了啊，lz就是付了两次，人多不代表你们对好吧。就lz这上证据讲理的劲儿，真只交了一次会上来叫吗
他们不是人多，而是回帖次数多，高楼贴就靠他们了。大多数MM是看了心里明白了，就不说话了
先跟你，再看贴。海归楼主表达能力不是一般的差，绝对不是对手
哈哈，快回去改。
俩老婆在dallas，俩老公在houston。
5555，在哪里都找不到了，还得一层一层爬回去啊。。。。。
这lz的对质也没写在关键点上啊。。。
1。你们到底打算是几个人住2b的房子？
2。有没有要人家送deposit？
3。有没有说你们中午搬进去所以要人家出半天的房租？
4。application fee你到底有没有损失？
5。原房主做ref 到底是你们自己填的还是他们打电话去office自告奋勇的？他们有没有专程给你们发信要求？
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我还真是半赶上直播了，我从你刚发贴就回复了，那个时候首页第一楼已经完全出来了，第二楼的关于两次app fee的澄清已经出来了，不过我打字慢，等我打完了，已经又好多页过去了。
以下是引用sharbelm在2/14/2012 3:28:00 PM的发言：
应该是送完钥匙之后，否则不make sense
你引用的我这个贴是３：２８：００ＰＭ 发的， 你在这个贴里面的第一次发帖时间是
以下是引用Purple_eyes在2/14/2012 4:07:00 PM的发言：
好几个facts，lz已经在一楼说了，不过这一楼里更加明确。 LZ,我顶你！
中间差了半个多小时，而且只有这么几个字，你打字是有多慢
你回帖里引用的ＬＺ的更新时间是[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:59:46编辑过， 和我那个帖子也相差了半个小时，我如果看见了才奇怪了。
你还是省省吧，让人自重不要追杀，结果自己这么不自重了。
我怎么觉得这个想法可以理解，汗
他家愿意100个人一间房，占着睡觉，跟我一打酱油的也没关系阿。不过但凡稍微正规点的出租公寓，都是规定人数的。另外常驻人口是需要登记的，一般居住超过一定时间，比如一个月，两个月什么的，就需要跟landlord声明，就算二房东不在乎，将来被landlord发现，他也会惹很多麻烦。
这吵架的两边我都不认识，谁占理也不知道，但公寓管理一般都是这样的。
我们以前租的公寓都是这样的，都有规定人数
这么大点事，娱乐 “ 共有12912人关注过本帖”，还不算另一个帖子的。这个其实要不是贪便宜（900~1000 - 810），就去正常地申请，不就什么事也没有了。
以下是引用triecy在2/14/2012 4:52:00 PM的发言：
情人节的跟这么个楼。。哈哈。我觉得lz没什么啊。二房东才比较jp。 至于人家babysit，跟这事没关系吧。再说也没成形。 至于人家住的多，lz加父母加一个娃，就算姨妈拜访一个月也还好吧。先声明我还没娃。不过很多父母过来照顾小孩的都是租的2br吧，有几个租3br的，除非自己买房子的。这么算起来lz家还少了lg一个呢。顶多周末过来。凭什么说人家住的人太多啊。
跳。。。。。
打个广告，要看中文去http://www.huaren.us/dispbbs.asp?boardid=331&id=1159807&page=1&star=7
看总结贴
囧
http://www.huaren.us/dispbbs.asp?boardid=331&id=1159807&page=1&star=1
又抓住一个打广告的
====================以下是引用近猪者肥在2/14/2012 3:22:00 PM的发言：==========
然后，chumin1开贴对质
http://www.huaren.us/dispbbs.asp?boardid=331&id=1159723&page=0&star=1
称：
1。当初租房是jiuyang123主动跟她联系的，有mitbbs邮件为证
2。jiuyang123的lease租金不是980，是875，不过承认现在的时价的确已经要将近1000。
3。jiuyang123在mit上的广告贴说房子是2b2b，跟她帖子中说的2b1b不符。且要价是820obo，所以他们讲价天经地义，最后定为810。
4。deposit最后jiuyang123并没有同意送给他们，所以他们最后还是同意要付
5。他们之前看房的那天就去过leasing office，大家都知道原租户的名字不能remove，不是jiuyang123说的很晚才知道
6。送钥匙那天，他们付给了jiuyang123一个月的房租
7。租房只为她＋父母＋小孩住，姨妈年前已经回国，想给父母找个小孩带不是为了挣钱，是为了给孩子找个playdate， 最后因为小孩送了daycare，也没有带别的小孩。
8。referee不是他们填的，是jiuyang123在问过他们是不是租的同一公司房子之后，自己去跟公司说的，并出示mitbbs邮件为证。
9。申请费付了两次，不是jiuyang123说的一次。
不过酱油党考古发现在chumin1搬到dallas以后还发广告说为父母姨妈找个孩子带，并说父母姨妈都要待半年。所以即使后来姨妈回国了，也没找孩子带，但在租房当时确实有可能是chumin1＋父母＋姨妈＋孩子＋babysit别人孩子＋周末假期lg visit，最大7人住的。
参考链接
http://www.huaren.us/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=333&ID=1131369&replyID=&skin=1
能不能强调一下是因为chumin1觉得jiuyang325家已经住了超过半年，所以要求至少给一半的deposit (100 dallors our of 200 dollars),后来jiuyang325告诉他们这家公寓不怎么扣deposit (有的公寓严格，有的宽松）, chunmin1同意把deposit都补给jiuyang325 （因为以后office 会退给chunmin1) 声明：我谁也不支持。[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 15:27:52编辑过]
为啥英文啊。。。。。啊。。。。。啊。。。。。。
是啊，英文还不好。。。。
是啊，英文还不好。。。。
是不怎么好，不过能看明白。。哈哈。。。。。。
哟，又看到您老人家了。
您怎么又看帖不仔细捏，我刚才看到这个贴，本楼lz一楼就写了，二房东是在和本楼lz一起去签sublease的合同的时候（也就是lz要把自己的名字放进lease，交application的时候）就知道了二房东老公的名字是不能拿下来的。可能后来二房东顺便送钥匙的时候发现lz家里人口比较多，害怕所有人都住过来万一把房子弄坏了，自己因为名字也在lease上而需要负责。所以心里有点打鼓，那这个时候就应该不租了，至少要再回去考虑一下到底是租还是不租，为啥一定还要把这个交易的过程完成（给钥匙＋收房租）捏。
这个钥匙也还蛮奇怪的，既然都是通过了leasing office走的正轨的程序，为啥leasing office不能给他们钥匙呢，既然是被加到了lease里面，给个钥匙也行吧。
二房东回到家之后，也一直没有告诉lz不租了，lz自以为完成了一切手续就等入住了。人家大老远携家带口开车过去，开到家门口了，二房东说不租了。这个实在是太不厚道了吧，找过apartment的人都知道在不熟的地方想找个apartment，而且最好能当天赶紧入住也不是那么容易的不是么？lz在附近找自己找了个地方住下，自己申请，走正轨手续，和二房东完全无关。结果后来二房东知道是同一家公司下的房子，居然去要求分refer fee（我的理解是lz没有写是二房东refer的，是二房东自己打电话去leasing office说的，也不知道是不是理解错了）。一个口口声声说本楼lz是“农村来的”的众人推知的有钱人，就为了50刀的refer fee，如此大费周章，真是匪夷所思啊。
我觉得你理解没错哇。应该是lz附近找了房子后被二房东知道了，发现可以refer的，所以自己打电话去给leasing office，然后leasing office同意了，她就email了LZ要求分这个钱。并且还很隐晦的说，对我们都有好处。顺便给了地址。哈哈
是啊，英文还不好。。。。
楼主说她上班打不了中文，能理解就行了。
以下是引用coffeine在2/14/2012 5:39:00 PM的发言：
还没回到家啊， 还是用中文吧。 这英文水平。。。。
以下是引用stefaniechan在2/14/2012 5:19:00 PM的发言：
chinglish看得我累死了。
中国人和中国人就不要拿英文说事了，谁也不会比谁好多少
这英文的也比另一个楼主写的中文的好理解，另一个表达的实在是太差了。
I'm honored that I can entertain so many folks for an entire day. The issue itself is not a big deal. Different people has different thoughts. That's why our world is full of variety. Nothing is absoluatly right or wrong. All depends on individule's background and desire.
I tried to follow this post as much as possible till now. (just realized that I'm not able to finish today's work). So I can't follow anymore. Feel free to believe whatever you think is the truth. Have a good day.
To the other lz:
We don't know each other... We never met... never met... Who are you... Why I'm here...
Answers for some doubt are list in 2nd Lou.
1) I posted "asking for apartment suggestion in Dallas" on mitbbs. They contacted me first, not me "这对极品就看到了，千里迢迢从别的城市赶来". Below is their massage for me on mitbbs.
"寄信人: yatou1983 (christina)
标 题: Re: 请大家给我推荐一个Dallas的apartment吧
发信站: 未名空间 (Tue Dec 20 19:10:31 2011)
来 源: 76.185.
你好
冒昧给你发信了..
在TI上班的话, 毫无疑问, Village是个很好的选择, 上班和生活方面都很方便的.而且
,这边有trail along the lake,每天都有很多中国人带小孩在那边玩, 过来探亲的父母
经常在那边social, 很是"国内", 呵呵.当然还有gym, tennis court
我们现在在The Green in the Village住,2b2b, 房子很大. 我们在这里住了很久,价格
都是之前签的,所以比较低.当然现在签lease的话,价格会比较高.
我们因为要搬到别的城市了,打算sublease, 不知道你有兴趣么? 如果方便可以过来看
看房子之类的
【 在 brightsmoo 的大作中提到:】
: 打算下周过完圣诞节就过去定一个apartment了。希望如下（从最重要的到没那么重要
: 的）：
:
: 1）离TI开车单程不超过20分钟
: 2）附近有daycare
: 3）治安好，适合老人在周边散散步什么的。希望有比较多的中国邻居。
: 4）2房一厅，希望租金800左右，一个bathroom就可以了。
:
: 可能在villages里选一个，但是觉得有点小贵，请大家给推荐一个，十分感谢！
2) They lied to me saying that they want to sublease the apartment because they're moving out of Dallas. See below two mitbbs post by them. Actually, the wife still stays in Dallas. They want to either sublease their apartment, or find a roomate. In her post, she said they rather to terminate the contract. In fact, they're still living there. I think they find a roomate eventually.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Texas/31607465.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Texas/31608613.html
3) They said they reduced to rent from 980 to 820. That's not true. Their rent is 875 as list in their lease. We both agreed on 810 after I saw their apartment. Since they already lived in that apartment for half the leasing period, I asked them that maybe I should not paid the deposit in full ($200). They told me that usually the apartment complex won't deduct the deposit if you keep the apartment clean. So eventually I agree to pay the full deposit to them ($200).
4) The price for leasing a new apartment of their size is 900~1000 (I found out in the leasing office when I went to lease my own apartment). Their apartment is $875 for 950sqrt, mine apartment now is $1035 for 1250sqrt.
5) On the same day as I went to look at their apartment, we went to sign the new application. Which cose me an application fee. Both of us two couples went to talk with the leasing office. The agent already told us that the husband's name cannot be removed.
Both of us agreed.
6) The wife still stays in Dallas, but the husband is going to Houston. He needs to find an apartment for himself in Houston. That's why we scheduled that they can give us one key on their apartment hunting trip. At that day, they gave one set of the keys to us, and we gave them the rent for Jan. "这对极品居然为了省油费，硬要让我们把钥匙送到他家" is not true. Since they were going to Houston, we both agreed that this is the best working plan.
7) It will be me, my 2year old daughter, and my parents living in the apartment. Totally 4 persons. My husband stays in Houston for his job. My aunt came to visit us one month. But already went back to China. I have the air ticket as a proof. We are not baby sitting to earn money. Originally, my parents feel that one child is too lonely and they was thinking to get a same-age child to baby sit. But I decided to sent my daughter to daycare, so we don't baby sit.
8) They came to Houston one week before I moved. If they had any concern or changed their mind, they can always inform me earlier. They didn't even tell me when I called them on the day I was moving.
9) I totally agreed that individule person has his/her own consideration towards this issue. That's why I never feel so bad that they changed their mind. Weather or not they want to sublease is their freedom. And I chose to keep scilent even if they changed their mind at the last mimute after my arrival. The thing really makes me upset is that how can you ask to be my referee after setting me in such a trouble.
10) That couple is smart. They first emailed me whether I find my own apartment. Then they contacted the leasing office themselves without my approval! Please see the following massages they sent me on mitbbs.
寄信人: yatou1983 (christina)
标 题: Re: 请大家给我推荐一个Dallas的apartment吧
发信站: 未名空间 (Wed Feb 1 10:17:34 2012)
来 源: 108.78.
你们还住village吗？是新租的还是续租？
寄信人: yatou1983 (christina)
标 题: Re: 请大家给我推荐一个Dallas的apartment吧
发信站: 未名空间 (Tue Feb 7 00:02:40 2012)
来 源: 76.185.
**，
the hill leasing office的人今天给我打电话，说到推荐的事儿，你能不能去下
leasing office把推荐人写上***,这样好像有$50gift card可以拿，之前他们
是不给的，我打电话去了说了几次才答应给，所以对我们都是好事,麻烦你给说一下,那
个卡是寄来的,需要1-2个月的时间.我们的住址是***.谢谢!
Note: The address they provided is the old address, which means that they never thought to terminate the apartment.
[此贴子已经被作者于2012/2/14 16:13:22编辑过]
To answer some people's doubt:
1) I paid the application fee twice! (The application fee is for the leasing office) Once for their appartment, once for my current appartment. We are not in the same village. Our villages belongs to the same company. But the application fee can not be transfered.
2) On the first application (the sublease one), since we went together to the office, I list them as the referee for this perticular apartment. Then they changed their mind, and we never go to sign the lease. I found the current apartment in another village myself. How could it ever possible I will put their name as referee.
3) They knew that I won't be the only one person living in the apartment on their visit to Houston (One week before we move). They didn't change their mind at that time. They didn't changed mind on the morning I moved.
4) Let me confirm the baby sitting stuff even though this is not related. My aunt visited US to attend my graduation ceremony. Her plan stay is one and a half month. At first, my parents don't want to sent my daughter to daycare. They want to ask my aunt to stay and find another child. That's why I post the baby-sitting list. But I still prefered to send my daughter to daycare (and already got one). That's why my aunt left as schedule.
5) I never want to cheat the other lz. Therefore I never hide any facts. They can decide whether or not they want to sublease.
6) Without subleasing, we're just strangers. Leave me alone and don't ask for the referee bonus.
7) I don't know what this means. They never mention split. I'd rather ignore such amount of money and get my peace.
8) A brief timeline. (I don't remember the date exactly, but won't differ more than 1day)
Dec. 28 or so me and my husband went to Dallas for apartment hunting, also see their apartment too.
Dec.29: We decided to sublease their apartment. Two couples went to the leasing office together. And we know that their name cannot be removed.
Jan 1 or so: They came to Houston for their aparment hunting and gave us the key. We paid the Jan. rent to them.
Jan 7: I called on the morning to confirm that I was going to move. They said ok. Then I arrived. They changed their mind at 4pm. I found another apartment at 5:30pm.
Feb 1: They asked where I live.
Feb 7: They asked to be referal.
9) I won't hide any facts. I admit that we ask them whether they can paid half the rent for the moving day, since we're said they will schedule the moving company to come only on the same day. We also asked whether we don't need to pay the full deposit, since almost half leasing period had passed. They didn't agree. Then I said fine, no problem, not a big deal. I'll pay everything in full. The result tells who care about money more.
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可是你是1月3号发帖 说父母要待1个月 想带小孩赚钱。。。
lz 可能急着打字，所以没来得及proof read.
我倒是觉得英文好的人看不好的人写的文章不会累。我看过美国mm写的中文作文，虽然非常烂，但是作为中文native speaker， 读起来还是很简单的。 就像美国人听印度英语不累，我听印度英语就要疯了。
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lz 可能急着打字，所以没来得及proof read.
我倒是觉得英文好的人看不好的人写的文章不会累。我看过美国mm写的中文作文，虽然非常烂，但是作为中文native speaker， 读起来还是很简单的。 就像美国人听印度英语不累，我听印度英语就要疯了。
对印度的是这样，要是同胞说的就相反。
我以前认识一个中国人英语很不好的，说的像家乡方言式英语，美国人听不懂他说什么，我就能听懂。
对印度的是这样，要是同胞说的就相反。
我以前认识一个中国人英语很不好的，说的像家乡方言式英语，美国人听不懂他说什么，我就能听懂。
那也不一定，中国好多方言，大家英语方言也不同，我有时听某些方言英语真的好吃力。。。另外一个lz呢，赶紧来回应吧！！！