看到隔壁说离婚卖钻戒想到的科普一下:钻戒一但从店里买来再想卖就很难很难了(就算是很贵的T家C家的也没用)

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bunnyisa
301 楼
以下是引用littlevest在12/23/2011 1:21:00 AM的发言:

    
    是啊,什么1ct以上保值都是商家的噱头或者自我安慰的
钻戒就是个特殊饰品,自己喜欢,珍惜最重要
要讲价值,或者想保值买黄金,呵呵

     [此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 1:21:57编辑过]

    
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ilikesoup
302 楼
 好帖
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janeee
303 楼
以下是引用xhnqian在12/23/2011 12:11:00 PM的发言:

    
     
t家c家好像都有个policy,如果你下一个钻戒还在她家买,而且double前一个的value,她们就会以原价的xx%买回原来那只,这个xx我忘记多少了,应该至少80%,那个楼的mm是不是这个意思?

    
按照这个意思,买越小的越划算咯?
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janeee
304 楼
终于有人说这个问题了,,,暑假我一朋友老嚷着让我带她去买T家的钻石,问她为什么要买T家,她说好牌子保值,我好说歹说那个保不了值,人家就是不信,结果我们去了T家,人家经理很委婉地说要上1C的好点儿(保值),人家就是在忽悠她,我实在无语,就说了一句要保值,没切割过得天然钻好点儿,也得大的,,,然后人家经理意味深长地看了我一眼~~~
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zhenjingcai
305 楼
以下是引用anthemz在12/23/2011 9:20:00 AM的发言:

    
    赞 撒马瑞
    
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ellenwu
306 楼
以下是引用笨笨熊在12/23/2011 2:00:00 AM的发言:

再有值,也得有市场,有买主,否则还是砸自己手里
 
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keaixiaoyatou
307 楼
以下是引用Charlesriver1在12/23/2011 1:31:00 AM的发言:

    
     1卡拉是不保值的,因为1卡拉的天然供应非常多,不过是被Debeers故意压住供应抬高1克拉的价格而已。

3克拉以上的完美钻石天然供应就开始真的少了,所以如果真的想保值,起码要3克拉,完美。其实钻石也是能比较保值的,不过那个门槛非常高,一般人的1克拉订婚戒指不过是个装饰品,跟保值没有关系。

    


re,小的钻不保值的。保值的都是在保险箱的
而且,钻戒珍贵是因为相对稀有,最重要的送的人和感情因素
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brandy
308 楼
以下是引用spiderpig在12/23/2011 1:06:00 AM的发言:

The profit Miss Taylor received from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years of insurance premiums on it.


这段的撒马瑞是:这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的"无名钻"的故事,基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆,Cartier得知后,幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家,然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来,这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名,人皆认为价值连城。事实是,多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付11年来的保险,交易税等其他乱七八糟费用,之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了~~~


 
原文里说的是profit, 所以是除掉原来哦买钻石付的钱的
也就是是伊丽莎白赚的钱, 除掉买钻石的钱剩下刚够付保险, 也就是说11年的投资没有赚到钱, 而不是说之前买钻石的几个米连打水漂了。
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chenxytj
309 楼
 钻石就是买了为了开心嘛 要是为了投资还不如买一堆银呢
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nv_nv
310 楼
 
追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
 
买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
 
对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
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sharatan
311 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
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Mindiado
312 楼
以下是引用nv_nv在12/23/2011 4:37:00 PM的发言:

    
      
     追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
      
     买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
      
     对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
    

房子 can do that though. But, i totally agree with u that "对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用". 保值 is not a good reason for women to buy diamond.
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Tia99
313 楼
傻子才会觉得钻戒保值。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。稍微用脑细胞想一下就知道的事情
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honghu1999
314 楼
Nice to know about this. 
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Caffeine
315 楼
以下是引用minijing在12/23/2011 1:43:00 PM的发言:

    
    
    
那是新包在升,二手包什么价钱阿?
    

sorry I don't have Chinese input here
to give everybody an example that used bags can trade at higher prices:
http://www.hautegallery.com/hg/hermes-kelly-sellier-32cm-black-leather-gold-p-564.html
This bag was made in 1990, so 22 years old. The bag was definitely used but in good condition. The price was $4,200. This is close to a new bag price in early 2000 or so (correct me if I'm wrong). yes we can include inflation etc., but the point is that for Birkin and Kelly bags, you can sell your used bags with higher prices than what you paid for as long as the condition is acceptable. Picking the right leather and take good care of the bags can certainly keep its value up.

This is obviously not to say that people buy bags to resell. I'm just using this as an example that when there is a true imbalance b/w supply and demand, secondary prices can be higher. It's not the case with diamond, as many have said earlier.

Some of my "wealthy" friends go to auctions to buy real jewelry pieces for this reason. (By wealthy, I meant people who don't need to work to make a living.)
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 16:52:56编辑过]
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morashu
316 楼
我觉得大多数人买钻戒也不是冲着将来要再卖出去的这个想法去买的。钻石也真就是一个承诺的载体而已,戴着闪闪亮亮,开心就好了,卖不出去就卖不出去吧。
距离拥抱被
317 楼
感谢科普啊,不过这玩意谁买了也不是为了以后要变卖的,用我家那位说就是个投名状而已,大头收益还在后面额~~
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nvqing
318 楼
大概六七十年前钻石还不是什么昂贵东西呢。 以下是引用tang8226在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:

    
    钻石就是marketing做得好
    
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bacy
319 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
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graciehao25
320 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
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graciehao25
321 楼
赞lz~码那么多字~~~~~~~~~~~讲得很有道理!!!!!
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iambaobao
322 楼
以下是引用g00gle在12/23/2011 1:32:00 PM的发言:
只有黄金白银保值,其他都是浮云。
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misukshoo
323 楼
而且也少有人会买转手的钻戒吧,除非的图价格优势的男人?
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galah
324 楼
以下是引用tobeornottobe在12/23/2011 1:23:00 AM的发言:
论保值还不如买黄金。 
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nv_nv
325 楼
 
保值本来就是浮云,我妈以前老是念叨说70年代末3千块钱就能买一院子房,拜托!!!30年前有几家人一下子拿得出3000块钱。要是真凑出3000多块钱,别的方面得多节约!!!人活着有啥意义。
 
人就一辈子,买了爱马仕的人也不是想着哪天要卖吧,趁着能享受的时候多享受,什么保值不保值的事,哪天死了娃能卖了发笔财就发比笔财,如果就卖个破铜烂铁的价,那就破铜烂铁呗。
 
最近lg想升级相机和镜头,一下子估计几千刀就出去了,游说我说,“你不知道,好镜头很保值”,哈哈,男人也这么自己骗自己。
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hsaw
326 楼
酱紫啊,那以后订婚还是收现金比较好~~~~
我爱吃cherry
327 楼
以下是引用MissSweety在12/23/2011 3:08:00 PM的发言:

    
    fashion版好几个5万块的钻石,最大的秀的我见过的4克拉的,不过秀的人也没想着保值
     [此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 15:09:30编辑过]

    


晕,说的好像自己的似的
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Lilian1978
328 楼
以下是引用snowxyxy在12/23/2011 10:14:00 AM的发言:

    
    谢谢科普。。。。。。。。。。。
    
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tobeornottobe
329 楼
以下是引用hsaw在12/23/2011 5:44:00 PM的发言:

    
    酱紫啊,那以后订婚还是收现金比较好~~~~
    


偶一个朋友收了价值20万的股票(当时的价值)。。。。
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panflute
330 楼
以下是引用coke在12/23/2011 1:25:00 AM的发言:

    
    这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。

Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
    
你确定么?我也是大概那个时候去看的T家。他家是不回购钻石的,只是如果你想upgrade,当初出的钱,一分不少的可以用来买upgrade的钻戒,条件是新upgrade的钻戒价格要是当初的钻戒价格的两倍。
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soroban71
331 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
看来还是金块保值?
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doll-bear
332 楼
以下是引用nv_nv在12/23/2011 4:37:00 PM的发言:

    
      
     追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
      
     买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
      
     对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
    
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proserpina
333 楼
 appreciation/depreciation is never a consideration when I buy a diamond.
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apap2
334 楼
以下是引用MaxReni在12/23/2011 1:22:00 AM的发言:
不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧,大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
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ruyimo
335 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    


啊啊啊。
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MissSweety
336 楼
以下是引用我爱吃cherry在12/23/2011 5:46:00 PM的发言:

    
    
    

晕,说的好像自己的似的
    

还是你能解读啊,视角真奇特,有那功夫关心下自己吧

[此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 19:05:41编辑过]
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vanilla_berry
337 楼
很有道理!不过不完全同意最后一句话 “所以lz认为买钻石就是买个浪漫买个心情,绝对不是投资。”

以下是引用spiderpig在12/23/2011 1:06:00 AM的发言:

    
    
看到隔壁回帖里说可以原价卖回店里买新的,看的我觉得太可笑了。
事情是这样的,之前自己买钻戒的时候,我也曾很天真的认为钻石这种东西就像投资黄金一样,花再多也值,因为拥有了equity货币怎么浮动都可以保值。。。blahblahblah。。。。直到有一天搜了一下re-sell钻戒的问题,看到了eye-openning的一面,有一本书里面有一章叫"Have you ever tried to sell a diamond",这是link:
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap20.htm

这是其中一段:
Selling diamonds can
                          also be particularly frustrating for individuals. One
                          wealthy woman living in New York city decided to sell
                          back a diamond ring that she had bought from Tiffany
                          two years earlier for $100,000, and use the proceeds
                          to buy a necklace of matched pearls that she fancied.
                          She had read about the "diamond boom" in news magazines,
                          and hoped that she might make a profit on the diamond.
                          Instead, the sales executive with whom she dealt explained,
                          with a touch of embarrassment, that Tiffany had "a strict
                          policy against repurchasing diamonds." He assured her,
                          however, that the diamond was extremely valuable and
                          suggested another jewelry store. The woman went from
                          one leading jeweler to another, trying to sell her diamond.
                          One store offered her the opportunity to swap it for
                          another jewel, and two other jewelers offered to accept
                          the diamond "on consignment," and pay her a percentage
                          of what they sold it for, but none of the half-dozen
                          jewelers she visited that day offered her cash for her
                          $100,000 diamond. She finally gave up and kept it.

这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。

另一段:
Many of the elderly
                          women who bring their Jewelry to Empire Diamonds and
                          other buying services have been the recent victims of
                          burglaries or muggings and fear further attempts. Thieves,
                          however, have an even more difficult time selling diamonds
                          than their victims. When suspicious-looking characters
                          turn up at Empire Diamonds, for instance, they are asked
                          to wait in the reception room, and the police are called
                          in. In 1980, for example, a disheveled youth came into
                          Empire with a bag full of jewelry that he called "family
                          heirlooms." When Brand pointed out that a few pieces
                          were imitations, the young man casually tossed them
                          in the wastepaper basket. Braud buzzed for the police.
When thieves bring
                          diamonds to underworld fences, they usually get a pittance
                          for them. In 1979, for example, New York City police
                          recovered stolen diamonds with an insured value Of $50,000
                          that had been sold to a fence for only $200. According
                          to the assistant district attorney that handled this
                          particular case, the fence was unable to dispose of
                          the diamonds on 47th Street, and was eventually turned
                          in by one of the diamond dealers whom he had contacted.

这段的撒马瑞是:连强盗们抢来的钻石都卖不掉,结果不但卖不掉钻石还经常在等给钻石估价的地方被警察叔叔抓走。。。曾有个贼抢来的一个5万的钻石最后卖到200块。。。

另一段:
While those who actually
                          attempt to sell diamonds often experience disappointment
                          at the low price they are offered, the stories circulated
                          in the press by N. W. Ayer continue to suggest that
                          diamonds are resold at enormous profits. Consider, the
                          legend created around the so-called "Elizabeth Taylor"
                          diamond. This pear-shaped diamond, which weighed 69.42
                          carats after it had been cut and polished, was the fifty-sixth
                          largest diamond in the world, and one of the few large
                          cut diamonds in private hands. Except for the fact that
                          it was a diamond, it had little in common with the millions
                          of small stones that are mass-marketed each year in
                          engagement rings and other jewelry. When Harry Winston
                          originally bought the diamond from De Beers, it weighed
                          over 100 carats. Winston had it cut into a fifty-eight-faceted
                          jewel, which he sold in 1967 to Harriet Annenberg Ames,
                          the daughter of publisher Moses Annenberg, for $500,000.
                          Mrs. Ames found it, however, extremely costly to maintain:
                          the insurance premium just for keeping it in her safe
                          was $30,000 a year. After keeping it for two years,
                          she decided to resell it and brought it back to Harry
                          Winston.
    
     Winston advised Mrs.
                          Ames that he could not buy it back for the price for
                          which she had purchased it from him. She then called
                          Ward Landrigan, the head of Parke-Bernet's jewelry department,
                          and explained that because she did not want any publicity,
                          the diamond should be auctioned without her family's
                          name attached to it.
    
     This caveat gave the
                          publicist that Parke-Bernet retained for the auction
                          the idea for a brilliant gambit. The huge diamond, which
                          would appear on the cover of the catalogue, would be
                          called "The No Name Diamond," and the buyer would have
                          the right to re-christen it. In August of 1969, Ward
                          Landrigan brought the diamond to Elizabeth Taylor's
                          chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland, and assured her that
                          it was the finest diamond then available on the market.
                          She expressed interest in it, and shortly thereafter
                          items were planted in gossip columns suggesting that
                          Elizabeth Taylor planned to bid up to a million dollars
                          for the No Name Diamond.
    
     At that point, Robert
                          H. Kenmore, whose conglomerate had just acquired Cartier
                          in New York, saw the possibility of gaining considerable
                          publicity for Cartier by buying the No Name Diamond,
                          renaming it the Cartier Diamond and reselling it to
                          Elizabeth Taylor. He preferred to pay a million dollars
                          for it, so that the sale would be indelibly impressed
                          on the public's mind as the most expensive diamond ever
                          purchased. He arranged to borrow the million dollars
                          from a bank, and took the $60,000 interest cost on the
                          loan out of his conglomerate's public relations budget.
    
     The auction was held
                          on October 2 3, 1969, and after sixty seconds of excited
                          bidding, the diamond was sold to Cartier for $1,050,000.
                          Harriet Ames received from Parke-Bernet, after paying
                          their commission and sales tax, $868,600, and Cartier
                          received the diamond. Four days later, Elizabeth Taylor
                          and her husband, Richard Burton, bought the diamond
                          from Cartier for $1,100,000 (which meant that Cartier
                          took a slight loss on the interest charge), and a few
                          days later the diamond was transferred to Elizabeth
                          Taylor's representative on an international airliner
                          flying over the Mediterranean to avoid any further sales
                          tax on the diamond.
    
     Some ten years later,
                          when she was married to John Warner, the United States
                          senator from Virginia, Elizabeth Taylor decided to sell
                          this well-publicized diamond. She announced that the
                          minimum price was four million dollars, and to cover
                          the insurance costs for showing it to prospective buyers,
                          she further asked to be paid $2,000 for each viewing
                          of the diamond. At this price, however, there were no
                          buyers. Finally in 1980 she agreed to sell the diamond
                          for a reported $2 million to a New York diamond dealer
                          named Henry Lambert who, in turn, planned to sell the
                          stone to an Arabian client. The profit Miss Taylor received
                          from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other
                          charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years
                          of insurance premiums on it.
这段的撒马瑞是:这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的"无名钻"的故事,基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆,Cartier得知后,幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家,然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来,这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名,人皆认为价值连城。事实是,多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付11年来的保险,交易税等其他乱七八糟费用,之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了~~~
全文萨马瑞就是:钻石值多少钱,能卖多少钱,完全只取决于买家愿意出多少钱,根本没有任何自身价值可言。

所以lz认为买钻石就是买个浪漫买个心情,绝对不是投资。


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水墨江南
338 楼
我还准备买个1.3C左右的, 幸亏没买
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LynnCK
339 楼
以下是引用baby_blue在12/23/2011 11:31:00 AM的发言:

    
     学习了
    
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burgerking
340 楼
以下是引用tang8226在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:

    
    钻石就是marketing做得好
    
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burgerking
341 楼
以下是引用coke在12/23/2011 1:25:00 AM的发言:

    
    这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。

Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
    


at what price?
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minervayao
342 楼
这样啊,我是恶俗而财迷的人,我决定以后让老公买金戒指给我,不要钻石了
小草一棵
343 楼
以下是引用MaxReni在12/23/2011 1:22:00 AM的发言:

    
    不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧,大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
    
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seizetheday
344 楼
正常 买了一般就自用么 投资神马的不靠谱
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littlepeach
345 楼
以下是引用tang8226在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:

    
    钻石就是marketing做得好
    


对呀。“钻石恒久远”,这个完全是create出来的,非常好的marketing. 其实钻石产量不低,但是De Beers
控制了绝大部分钻石卖高价。
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febreze
346 楼
觉得好看就买,不要想着保值就对了
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pinkpiggy
347 楼
奢侈品都一样,不仅是钻石.
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unknown-
348 楼
以下是引用littlepeach在12/23/2011 8:38:00 PM的发言:
对呀。“钻石恒久远”,这个完全是create出来的,非常好的marketing. 其实钻石产量不低,但是De Beers 控制了绝大部分钻石卖高价。
现在什么不是marketing,多少名牌包连皮都不是,有些还是帆布,有人追捧,一样卖天价
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ltymoon
349 楼
以下是引用 pinkpiggy 的发言:
奢侈品都一样,不仅是钻石.
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新蛋
350 楼
钻石本来就是忽悠人的
结果被忽悠的还觉得少了这个不行……
 
海鲜
351 楼
50000的钻石卖200? 有点扯了。 如果真的在T家标价是50000, 卖我2000我也要啊。
小螃蟹six
352 楼
头回听说名牌包保值的论调,这东西不算消耗品么,也能被炒成保值货?

以下是引用angeliali在12/23/2011 1:45:00 AM的发言:

    
    不光是钻石,名牌包也是一样,说保值是一相情愿。
    
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tiantianshopping
353 楼
以下是引用littlevest在12/23/2011 1:21:00 AM的发言:

    
    是啊,什么1ct以上保值都是商家的噱头或者自我安慰的
钻戒就是个特殊饰品,自己喜欢,珍惜最重要
要讲价值,或者想保值买黄金,呵呵

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tiantianshopping
354 楼
以下是引用Charlesriver1在12/23/2011 1:41:00 AM的发言:

    
     切割工匠都是垄断的,最好的工匠都是犹太人,大钻石都是他们手里切的,因为怕其他技艺不怎样的切坏了。你要没有认识这样的工匠,拿着钻石璞也没用啊。

    
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acron
355 楼
囧。我就是戴着假钻石啊,看着一模一样,而且由于折射率还是什么还有clarity好的缘故,比真的还闪。据说买人工钻的setting要选透光差点的,否则火彩太好了,看着不象真的。LOL。不过我不care这个,就是喜欢亮闪闪的石头嘛,买个喜欢的戴着玩,看着开心就好了。我的e-ring是sapphire的,bf要买钻石我不让。
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DOLAMENG
356 楼
恩                                                                 
逍遥小妖
357 楼
Ben Bridge的receipt上就写着,它家的钻可以原价trade in,但条件是你必须在它家换购一颗最起码是旧钻两倍价格的新钻。
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yaoyaozhu
358 楼
学习了!!!!!!结婚前看到就好了!
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Gladiator_Mouse
359 楼
不觉得买黄金饰品能保值,真能保值的大概只有金条。
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smilingbaby
360 楼
这个应该算是情理之中吧,咱们老百姓有点闲钱会买点黄金啥的,心里踏实,增值多少不说,应该不会贬值,好像没人买钻石留着升值吧。钻石这东西,好像是货款两清后,立马贬值啊。俺是土人一个,看着明晃晃的钻石觉着挺好看,看着假钻一样觉得好看,根本分不出来的说。
樱桃丸子
361 楼
以下是引用ssn_wonder在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:

    
    太好了, 再也不梦想等有钱了买T家和C家的钻戒了
    
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wing123
362 楼
以下是引用acron在12/23/2011 10:27:00 PM的发言:

    
    囧。我就是戴着假钻石啊,看着一模一样,而且由于折射率还是什么还有clarity好的缘故,比真的还闪。据说买人工钻的setting要选透光差点的,否则火彩太好了,看着不象真的。LOL。不过我不care这个,就是喜欢亮闪闪的石头嘛,买个喜欢的戴着玩,看着开心就好了。我的e-ring是sapphire的,bf要买钻石我不让。
    

假的还是不同的,我专门买过假的和真的比。不仔细看还是不明显。不过我觉得在石头上花那么多钱,真的不值得。
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imniz
363 楼
这种纯粹用来看的东西,如果假的能够看起来跟真的一模一样,为什么要花多那么多的钱买真的呢?
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yeecanoe
364 楼
以下是引用tang8226在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:
钻石就是marketing做得好
 
strongly re!!!!
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babybearzy
365 楼
 好长。。。mark下先~~
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bribright
366 楼
以下是引用daiqiu在12/23/2011 11:16:00 AM的发言:

    
    换个角度,去买二手钻戒会不会很值啊?呵呵呵呵~~~200块买到5万的……
    
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yzz0015
367 楼
以下是引用spiderpig在12/23/2011 1:14:00 AM的发言:

    
     没人看啊。。。。。。。
    
青山流水
368 楼
钻石的价格都是artificially抬起来的。。当年还和lg讨论了这个问题。。 不过最重要的问题是很多钻石的来源has blood on it,所以要买钻石最好搞清楚来源,表支持无良商人
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
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likalalala
369 楼
问题是你敢找私人买二手钻石吗?

你在ebay上买私人出售的也不放心啊。不像名牌包还能看出个真假门道来,钻石鉴定麻烦多了。

所以私人手上要出手的钻也只有去贱卖到dealer那儿了。

以下是引用海鲜在12/23/2011 9:25:00 PM的发言:

    
    50000的钻石卖200? 有点扯了。 如果真的在T家标价是50000, 卖我2000我也要啊。
    
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ilovewanzi
370 楼
以下是引用smilingbaby在12/23/2011 10:59:00 PM的发言:

    
     这个应该算是情理之中吧,咱们老百姓有点闲钱会买点黄金啥的,心里踏实,增值多少不说,应该不会贬值,好像没人买钻石留着升值吧。钻石这东西,好像是货款两清后,立马贬值啊。俺是土人一个,看着明晃晃的钻石觉着挺好看,看着假钻一样觉得好看,根本分不出来的说。
    
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bluehare
371 楼
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:

    
     
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐

保值都是浮云

    
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queiny
372 楼
以下是引用sunflowerz在12/23/2011 1:50:00 AM的发言:

    
    奢侈品都一样,不仅是钻石★ Sent from i---- Lite 7.28
    
细雨梧桐
373 楼
没有钻石的人开心的飘过。。。。。。
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leesino
374 楼
淡定了~~~~~好吧...
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rainfall1988
375 楼
支持下 我也这么觉得
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rainfall1988
376 楼
以下是引用Caffeine在12/23/2011 10:13:00 AM的发言:

    
    从保值角度讲,Birkin现在是最保值的之一。状况好的,抢手的颜色,尺寸,二手可以卖到比零售价高的地步。

    

同感 从我知道birkin开始到现在 都涨了20%了。。。。。。我估计这辈子是没戏买得起了。。。。
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rainfall1988
377 楼
以下是引用Charlesriver1在12/23/2011 1:10:00 PM的发言:

    
    买断了不让这种人工钻石面世。因为这种人工钻石一旦面世,1克拉左右的钻石全部不值钱了。

现在千万不要买有色彩钻,因为这种科技已经能够做到2-3克拉的完美彩钻(蓝色粉红色桔色黄色色什么的),彩钻的价格会崩溃得很快。无色钻的科技发展更慢一点,只能做到1克拉左右。

    

我咋觉得啥都不买最值了。。。。。科技总是进步的啊。。。。我决定把这些钱都变成食物吃到肚子里。。。。。
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rainfall1988
378 楼
以下是引用MissSweety在12/23/2011 1:10:00 PM的发言:

    
     除了金子保值,银子都不保值,钻石更不保值了,不过钻石确实美丽阿,戴着高兴,何乐而不为呢。另外大家都说T家和C家overprice,如果论那点可怜的保值衡量的话,T家C家还是比那些其他中低端牌子保值得多了

    

我觉得T 和C虽然overprice 但是比普通的还是要好看多了 话说这种东西也就买个漂亮买个高兴 有钱的话还是比普通钻石带着好看多了
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rainfall1988
379 楼
以下是引用yanziyuan在12/23/2011 1:31:00 PM的发言:

    
    哈哈,我也一直觉得说这东西保值是胡扯。歪个楼问一下,总有人说买名牌包保值,我听着怎么也不靠谱呢
    

如果是肯定要买的东西 那么早买还是比晚买好 从这个角度上来说也算省钱了吧?如果是作为投资 那就绝对不划算了
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rainfall1988
380 楼
以下是引用冰海美人鱼在12/23/2011 1:52:00 PM的发言:

    
    刚查了查,说人工钻和天然的用设备还是检测的出的,波长是不一样滴
总的来说,喜欢买的买继续买,觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的

    

可是谁也不会随身携带个测量仪器来测波长啊。。。。好看的就行~~
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ljj1218
381 楼
我一直想等有钱了,买个比较奢侈的包啥的,我同学就很鄙视我,认为包什么的都是贬值的,几年后就不想要了,不值钱了,不如钻石。现在想通了,就买个自己想要得东西好了,别琢磨着保值啥的,除非买金子。我听说国内有些地方流行婆婆送金子给媳妇,以前还觉着巨丑无比,我见过俩送金子的,硕大的戒指啥的,现在觉着好有远见哇。
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datoufeifei
382 楼
以下是引用怎样让大排不硬在12/23/2011 1:34:00 AM的发言:

    
    卖不了,所以只能一颗永留传。。。。。。
    


哈哈哈!!!
抹茶红豆包
383 楼
 更加坚定了我要求买点金条
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PurinPurin
384 楼
以下是引用青山流水在12/24/2011 12:42:00 AM的发言:

    
    钻石的价格都是artificially抬起来的。。当年还和lg讨论了这个问题。。 不过最重要的问题是很多钻石的来源has blood on it,所以要买钻石最好搞清楚来源,表支持无良商人

    


re!!!
浮云呐
385 楼
金价是被操控的, 小农我不敢买

以下是引用抹茶红豆包在1/28/2012 10:59:00 PM的发言:


    
     更加坚定了我要求买点金条
    
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PurinPurin
386 楼
以下是引用nv_nv在12/23/2011 5:42:00 PM的发言:

    
      
     保值本来就是浮云,我妈以前老是念叨说70年代末3千块钱就能买一院子房,拜托!!!30年前有几家人一下子拿得出3000块钱。要是真凑出3000多块钱,别的方面得多节约!!!人活着有啥意义。
      
     人就一辈子,买了爱马仕的人也不是想着哪天要卖吧,趁着能享受的时候多享受,什么保值不保值的事,哪天死了娃能卖了发笔财就发比笔财,如果就卖个破铜烂铁的价,那就破铜烂铁呗。
      
     最近lg想升级相机和镜头,一下子估计几千刀就出去了,游说我说,“你不知道,好镜头很保值”,哈哈,男人也这么自己骗自己。
    


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抹茶红豆包
387 楼
以下是引用浮云呐在1/28/2012 11:00:00 PM的发言:

    
    

    
那嫩说我买点小古董列?
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chenyaoz
388 楼
以下是引用tang8226在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:

    
    钻石就是marketing做得好
    
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wellye
389 楼
我是不会为了保值买个1克拉的戒指的,7.80分戴着足够了,我也不会买T或者C家戒指,一样价格买好的多得钻了,当然有钱人除外。
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BruceG
390 楼
就是买个开心啊。
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janeloveschocolate
391 楼
以下是引用coke在12/23/2011 1:25:00 AM的发言:

    
    这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。

Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
    


那是TRADE UP,你买更大个的,同时把以前买的小的卖回T家。
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PurinPurin
392 楼
以下是引用说你傻你就傻在12/23/2011 2:50:00 PM的发言:

    
    
      
     你太较真了。。。。。真把这个当辩论了,还对不对的,我就是表达我一个看法和观点而已,你劈头盖脸就说不对,这个说话态度好难受啊。。。。你说对就是对,你说不对就是不对?你要这个态度,我就无法和你说话了。。。我们是要来争辩一个谁对谁错吗? 那是不是先要选出一个权威来当裁判呢?不然争来争去,对错谁说了算?
      
     我没有说机器生产不会取代手工成为主流,我说的是机器生产不会取代手工,并不一定是主流才能赚钱,才能生存。。。。。相反地, 机器生产的技术越成熟,机器生产的成本就会越低,相对地,手工或者天然的成本就越高,所以单价就更会上走。。。。是哪句话看不懂吗。。。。真要命。。。
      
      
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WENGIRL
393 楼
以下是引用ssn_wonder在12/23/2011 1:26:00 AM的发言:
太好了, 再也不梦想等有钱了买T家和C家的钻戒了
LOL
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carteryang
394 楼
 就是一块石头,结婚当当饰品就算了
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hotpinkqueen
395 楼
 这世界上还有什么东西会保值呢? 买钻石,人家人工钻出来了;买黄金,黄金价格被别人操控;买房子吧,哪一天就淹在水底下了;买名牌包吧,打死我也不会觉得一个用过的包会增值(除非名人)...看来看去,还是买点好吃点吃进肚子里比较实惠,满足了味蕾,满足了腹欲,色欲,还能活下去。
这年头买个吃好也不容易,不仅原料要organic,还要有个好厨师加工好,还有个好环境氛围吃好,哈哈
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maomao1234
396 楼
所以lz认为买钻石就是买个浪漫买个心情,绝对不是投资。


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iThwl
397 楼
爱戴有负担的起就买一个。和衣服一样,谈不上投资,一个比较贵重的首饰而已。
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COHIBA
398 楼
说得对.买得起T,C之类克拉钻的人,谁还会考虑买used ? 保值回收什么的纯粹是类似心理暗示的自我安慰,
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sharon1025
399 楼
还是金条最值钱~
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loving2008
400 楼
以下是引用hotpinkqueen在1/28/2012 11:47:00 PM的发言:
 这世界上还有什么东西会保值呢? 买钻石,人家人工钻出来了;买黄金,黄金价格被别人操控;买房子吧,哪一天就淹在水底下了;买名牌包吧,打死我也不会觉得一个用过的包会增值(除非名人)...看来看去,还是买点好吃点吃进肚子里比较实惠,满足了味蕾,满足了腹欲,色欲,还能活下去。
这年头买个吃好也不容易,不仅原料要organic,还要有个好厨师加工好,还有个好环境氛围吃好,哈哈