The profit Miss Taylor received from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years of insurance premiums on it.
sorry I don't have Chinese input here to give everybody an example that used bags can trade at higher prices: http://www.hautegallery.com/hg/hermes-kelly-sellier-32cm-black-leather-gold-p-564.html This bag was made in 1990, so 22 years old. The bag was definitely used but in good condition. The price was $4,200. This is close to a new bag price in early 2000 or so (correct me if I'm wrong). yes we can include inflation etc., but the point is that for Birkin and Kelly bags, you can sell your used bags with higher prices than what you paid for as long as the condition is acceptable. Picking the right leather and take good care of the bags can certainly keep its value up.
This is obviously not to say that people buy bags to resell. I'm just using this as an example that when there is a true imbalance b/w supply and demand, secondary prices can be higher. It's not the case with diamond, as many have said earlier.
Some of my "wealthy" friends go to auctions to buy real jewelry pieces for this reason. (By wealthy, I meant people who don't need to work to make a living.) [此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 16:52:56编辑过]
看到隔壁回帖里说可以原价卖回店里买新的,看的我觉得太可笑了。 事情是这样的,之前自己买钻戒的时候,我也曾很天真的认为钻石这种东西就像投资黄金一样,花再多也值,因为拥有了equity货币怎么浮动都可以保值。。。blahblahblah。。。。直到有一天搜了一下re-sell钻戒的问题,看到了eye-openning的一面,有一本书里面有一章叫"Have you ever tried to sell a diamond",这是link: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap20.htm
这是其中一段: Selling diamonds can also be particularly frustrating for individuals. One wealthy woman living in New York city decided to sell back a diamond ring that she had bought from Tiffany two years earlier for $100,000, and use the proceeds to buy a necklace of matched pearls that she fancied. She had read about the "diamond boom" in news magazines, and hoped that she might make a profit on the diamond. Instead, the sales executive with whom she dealt explained, with a touch of embarrassment, that Tiffany had "a strict policy against repurchasing diamonds." He assured her, however, that the diamond was extremely valuable and suggested another jewelry store. The woman went from one leading jeweler to another, trying to sell her diamond. One store offered her the opportunity to swap it for another jewel, and two other jewelers offered to accept the diamond "on consignment," and pay her a percentage of what they sold it for, but none of the half-dozen jewelers she visited that day offered her cash for her $100,000 diamond. She finally gave up and kept it.
另一段: Many of the elderly women who bring their Jewelry to Empire Diamonds and other buying services have been the recent victims of burglaries or muggings and fear further attempts. Thieves, however, have an even more difficult time selling diamonds than their victims. When suspicious-looking characters turn up at Empire Diamonds, for instance, they are asked to wait in the reception room, and the police are called in. In 1980, for example, a disheveled youth came into Empire with a bag full of jewelry that he called "family heirlooms." When Brand pointed out that a few pieces were imitations, the young man casually tossed them in the wastepaper basket. Braud buzzed for the police. When thieves bring diamonds to underworld fences, they usually get a pittance for them. In 1979, for example, New York City police recovered stolen diamonds with an insured value Of $50,000 that had been sold to a fence for only $200. According to the assistant district attorney that handled this particular case, the fence was unable to dispose of the diamonds on 47th Street, and was eventually turned in by one of the diamond dealers whom he had contacted.
另一段: While those who actually attempt to sell diamonds often experience disappointment at the low price they are offered, the stories circulated in the press by N. W. Ayer continue to suggest that diamonds are resold at enormous profits. Consider, the legend created around the so-called "Elizabeth Taylor" diamond. This pear-shaped diamond, which weighed 69.42 carats after it had been cut and polished, was the fifty-sixth largest diamond in the world, and one of the few large cut diamonds in private hands. Except for the fact that it was a diamond, it had little in common with the millions of small stones that are mass-marketed each year in engagement rings and other jewelry. When Harry Winston originally bought the diamond from De Beers, it weighed over 100 carats. Winston had it cut into a fifty-eight-faceted jewel, which he sold in 1967 to Harriet Annenberg Ames, the daughter of publisher Moses Annenberg, for $500,000. Mrs. Ames found it, however, extremely costly to maintain: the insurance premium just for keeping it in her safe was $30,000 a year. After keeping it for two years, she decided to resell it and brought it back to Harry Winston.
Winston advised Mrs. Ames that he could not buy it back for the price for which she had purchased it from him. She then called Ward Landrigan, the head of Parke-Bernet's jewelry department, and explained that because she did not want any publicity, the diamond should be auctioned without her family's name attached to it.
This caveat gave the publicist that Parke-Bernet retained for the auction the idea for a brilliant gambit. The huge diamond, which would appear on the cover of the catalogue, would be called "The No Name Diamond," and the buyer would have the right to re-christen it. In August of 1969, Ward Landrigan brought the diamond to Elizabeth Taylor's chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland, and assured her that it was the finest diamond then available on the market. She expressed interest in it, and shortly thereafter items were planted in gossip columns suggesting that Elizabeth Taylor planned to bid up to a million dollars for the No Name Diamond.
At that point, Robert H. Kenmore, whose conglomerate had just acquired Cartier in New York, saw the possibility of gaining considerable publicity for Cartier by buying the No Name Diamond, renaming it the Cartier Diamond and reselling it to Elizabeth Taylor. He preferred to pay a million dollars for it, so that the sale would be indelibly impressed on the public's mind as the most expensive diamond ever purchased. He arranged to borrow the million dollars from a bank, and took the $60,000 interest cost on the loan out of his conglomerate's public relations budget.
The auction was held on October 2 3, 1969, and after sixty seconds of excited bidding, the diamond was sold to Cartier for $1,050,000. Harriet Ames received from Parke-Bernet, after paying their commission and sales tax, $868,600, and Cartier received the diamond. Four days later, Elizabeth Taylor and her husband, Richard Burton, bought the diamond from Cartier for $1,100,000 (which meant that Cartier took a slight loss on the interest charge), and a few days later the diamond was transferred to Elizabeth Taylor's representative on an international airliner flying over the Mediterranean to avoid any further sales tax on the diamond.
Some ten years later, when she was married to John Warner, the United States senator from Virginia, Elizabeth Taylor decided to sell this well-publicized diamond. She announced that the minimum price was four million dollars, and to cover the insurance costs for showing it to prospective buyers, she further asked to be paid $2,000 for each viewing of the diamond. At this price, however, there were no buyers. Finally in 1980 she agreed to sell the diamond for a reported $2 million to a New York diamond dealer named Henry Lambert who, in turn, planned to sell the stone to an Arabian client. The profit Miss Taylor received from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years of insurance premiums on it. 这段的撒马瑞是:这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的"无名钻"的故事,基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆,Cartier得知后,幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家,然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来,这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名,人皆认为价值连城。事实是,多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付11年来的保险,交易税等其他乱七八糟费用,之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了~~~ 全文萨马瑞就是:钻石值多少钱,能卖多少钱,完全只取决于买家愿意出多少钱,根本没有任何自身价值可言。
是啊,什么1ct以上保值都是商家的噱头或者自我安慰的
钻戒就是个特殊饰品,自己喜欢,珍惜最重要
要讲价值,或者想保值买黄金,呵呵
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t家c家好像都有个policy,如果你下一个钻戒还在她家买,而且double前一个的value,她们就会以原价的xx%买回原来那只,这个xx我忘记多少了,应该至少80%,那个楼的mm是不是这个意思?
按照这个意思,买越小的越划算咯?
赞 撒马瑞
再有值,也得有市场,有买主,否则还是砸自己手里
1卡拉是不保值的,因为1卡拉的天然供应非常多,不过是被Debeers故意压住供应抬高1克拉的价格而已。
3克拉以上的完美钻石天然供应就开始真的少了,所以如果真的想保值,起码要3克拉,完美。其实钻石也是能比较保值的,不过那个门槛非常高,一般人的1克拉订婚戒指不过是个装饰品,跟保值没有关系。
re,小的钻不保值的。保值的都是在保险箱的
而且,钻戒珍贵是因为相对稀有,最重要的送的人和感情因素
The profit Miss Taylor received from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years of insurance premiums on it.
这段的撒马瑞是:这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的"无名钻"的故事,基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆,Cartier得知后,幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家,然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来,这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名,人皆认为价值连城。事实是,多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付11年来的保险,交易税等其他乱七八糟费用,之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了~~~
原文里说的是profit, 所以是除掉原来哦买钻石付的钱的
也就是是伊丽莎白赚的钱, 除掉买钻石的钱剩下刚够付保险, 也就是说11年的投资没有赚到钱, 而不是说之前买钻石的几个米连打水漂了。
追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
房子 can do that though. But, i totally agree with u that "对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用". 保值 is not a good reason for women to buy diamond.
那是新包在升,二手包什么价钱阿?
sorry I don't have Chinese input here
to give everybody an example that used bags can trade at higher prices:
http://www.hautegallery.com/hg/hermes-kelly-sellier-32cm-black-leather-gold-p-564.html
This bag was made in 1990, so 22 years old. The bag was definitely used but in good condition. The price was $4,200. This is close to a new bag price in early 2000 or so (correct me if I'm wrong). yes we can include inflation etc., but the point is that for Birkin and Kelly bags, you can sell your used bags with higher prices than what you paid for as long as the condition is acceptable. Picking the right leather and take good care of the bags can certainly keep its value up.
This is obviously not to say that people buy bags to resell. I'm just using this as an example that when there is a true imbalance b/w supply and demand, secondary prices can be higher. It's not the case with diamond, as many have said earlier.
Some of my "wealthy" friends go to auctions to buy real jewelry pieces for this reason. (By wealthy, I meant people who don't need to work to make a living.)
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 16:52:56编辑过]
钻石就是marketing做得好
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
只有黄金白银保值,其他都是浮云。
论保值还不如买黄金。
保值本来就是浮云,我妈以前老是念叨说70年代末3千块钱就能买一院子房,拜托!!!30年前有几家人一下子拿得出3000块钱。要是真凑出3000多块钱,别的方面得多节约!!!人活着有啥意义。
人就一辈子,买了爱马仕的人也不是想着哪天要卖吧,趁着能享受的时候多享受,什么保值不保值的事,哪天死了娃能卖了发笔财就发比笔财,如果就卖个破铜烂铁的价,那就破铜烂铁呗。
最近lg想升级相机和镜头,一下子估计几千刀就出去了,游说我说,“你不知道,好镜头很保值”,哈哈,男人也这么自己骗自己。
fashion版好几个5万块的钻石,最大的秀的我见过的4克拉的,不过秀的人也没想着保值
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晕,说的好像自己的似的
谢谢科普。。。。。。。。。。。
酱紫啊,那以后订婚还是收现金比较好~~~~
偶一个朋友收了价值20万的股票(当时的价值)。。。。
这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。
Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
你确定么?我也是大概那个时候去看的T家。他家是不回购钻石的,只是如果你想upgrade,当初出的钱,一分不少的可以用来买upgrade的钻戒,条件是新upgrade的钻戒价格要是当初的钻戒价格的两倍。
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
看来还是金块保值?
追求东西保值本来就是人贪婪一面的流露,事实证明世界上没有绝对保值的好事。
买了钻石房子包等等等等的,自己用过了美过了,还像在原价甚至更高买出去,根本就是做梦啊,还是讨论什么东西损失少比较实际。
对于喜欢的东西,享受得起就买就用,买了之后的事情就别操心,讨论保值不保值感觉很像葛朗台。
不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧,大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
啊啊啊。
晕,说的好像自己的似的
还是你能解读啊,视角真奇特,有那功夫关心下自己吧
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以下是引用spiderpig在12/23/2011 1:06:00 AM的发言:
看到隔壁回帖里说可以原价卖回店里买新的,看的我觉得太可笑了。
事情是这样的,之前自己买钻戒的时候,我也曾很天真的认为钻石这种东西就像投资黄金一样,花再多也值,因为拥有了equity货币怎么浮动都可以保值。。。blahblahblah。。。。直到有一天搜了一下re-sell钻戒的问题,看到了eye-openning的一面,有一本书里面有一章叫"Have you ever tried to sell a diamond",这是link:
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap20.htm
这是其中一段:
Selling diamonds can
also be particularly frustrating for individuals. One
wealthy woman living in New York city decided to sell
back a diamond ring that she had bought from Tiffany
two years earlier for $100,000, and use the proceeds
to buy a necklace of matched pearls that she fancied.
She had read about the "diamond boom" in news magazines,
and hoped that she might make a profit on the diamond.
Instead, the sales executive with whom she dealt explained,
with a touch of embarrassment, that Tiffany had "a strict
policy against repurchasing diamonds." He assured her,
however, that the diamond was extremely valuable and
suggested another jewelry store. The woman went from
one leading jeweler to another, trying to sell her diamond.
One store offered her the opportunity to swap it for
another jewel, and two other jewelers offered to accept
the diamond "on consignment," and pay her a percentage
of what they sold it for, but none of the half-dozen
jewelers she visited that day offered her cash for her
$100,000 diamond. She finally gave up and kept it.
这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。
另一段:
Many of the elderly
women who bring their Jewelry to Empire Diamonds and
other buying services have been the recent victims of
burglaries or muggings and fear further attempts. Thieves,
however, have an even more difficult time selling diamonds
than their victims. When suspicious-looking characters
turn up at Empire Diamonds, for instance, they are asked
to wait in the reception room, and the police are called
in. In 1980, for example, a disheveled youth came into
Empire with a bag full of jewelry that he called "family
heirlooms." When Brand pointed out that a few pieces
were imitations, the young man casually tossed them
in the wastepaper basket. Braud buzzed for the police.
When thieves bring
diamonds to underworld fences, they usually get a pittance
for them. In 1979, for example, New York City police
recovered stolen diamonds with an insured value Of $50,000
that had been sold to a fence for only $200. According
to the assistant district attorney that handled this
particular case, the fence was unable to dispose of
the diamonds on 47th Street, and was eventually turned
in by one of the diamond dealers whom he had contacted.
这段的撒马瑞是:连强盗们抢来的钻石都卖不掉,结果不但卖不掉钻石还经常在等给钻石估价的地方被警察叔叔抓走。。。曾有个贼抢来的一个5万的钻石最后卖到200块。。。
另一段:
While those who actually
attempt to sell diamonds often experience disappointment
at the low price they are offered, the stories circulated
in the press by N. W. Ayer continue to suggest that
diamonds are resold at enormous profits. Consider, the
legend created around the so-called "Elizabeth Taylor"
diamond. This pear-shaped diamond, which weighed 69.42
carats after it had been cut and polished, was the fifty-sixth
largest diamond in the world, and one of the few large
cut diamonds in private hands. Except for the fact that
it was a diamond, it had little in common with the millions
of small stones that are mass-marketed each year in
engagement rings and other jewelry. When Harry Winston
originally bought the diamond from De Beers, it weighed
over 100 carats. Winston had it cut into a fifty-eight-faceted
jewel, which he sold in 1967 to Harriet Annenberg Ames,
the daughter of publisher Moses Annenberg, for $500,000.
Mrs. Ames found it, however, extremely costly to maintain:
the insurance premium just for keeping it in her safe
was $30,000 a year. After keeping it for two years,
she decided to resell it and brought it back to Harry
Winston.
Winston advised Mrs.
Ames that he could not buy it back for the price for
which she had purchased it from him. She then called
Ward Landrigan, the head of Parke-Bernet's jewelry department,
and explained that because she did not want any publicity,
the diamond should be auctioned without her family's
name attached to it.
This caveat gave the
publicist that Parke-Bernet retained for the auction
the idea for a brilliant gambit. The huge diamond, which
would appear on the cover of the catalogue, would be
called "The No Name Diamond," and the buyer would have
the right to re-christen it. In August of 1969, Ward
Landrigan brought the diamond to Elizabeth Taylor's
chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland, and assured her that
it was the finest diamond then available on the market.
She expressed interest in it, and shortly thereafter
items were planted in gossip columns suggesting that
Elizabeth Taylor planned to bid up to a million dollars
for the No Name Diamond.
At that point, Robert
H. Kenmore, whose conglomerate had just acquired Cartier
in New York, saw the possibility of gaining considerable
publicity for Cartier by buying the No Name Diamond,
renaming it the Cartier Diamond and reselling it to
Elizabeth Taylor. He preferred to pay a million dollars
for it, so that the sale would be indelibly impressed
on the public's mind as the most expensive diamond ever
purchased. He arranged to borrow the million dollars
from a bank, and took the $60,000 interest cost on the
loan out of his conglomerate's public relations budget.
The auction was held
on October 2 3, 1969, and after sixty seconds of excited
bidding, the diamond was sold to Cartier for $1,050,000.
Harriet Ames received from Parke-Bernet, after paying
their commission and sales tax, $868,600, and Cartier
received the diamond. Four days later, Elizabeth Taylor
and her husband, Richard Burton, bought the diamond
from Cartier for $1,100,000 (which meant that Cartier
took a slight loss on the interest charge), and a few
days later the diamond was transferred to Elizabeth
Taylor's representative on an international airliner
flying over the Mediterranean to avoid any further sales
tax on the diamond.
Some ten years later,
when she was married to John Warner, the United States
senator from Virginia, Elizabeth Taylor decided to sell
this well-publicized diamond. She announced that the
minimum price was four million dollars, and to cover
the insurance costs for showing it to prospective buyers,
she further asked to be paid $2,000 for each viewing
of the diamond. At this price, however, there were no
buyers. Finally in 1980 she agreed to sell the diamond
for a reported $2 million to a New York diamond dealer
named Henry Lambert who, in turn, planned to sell the
stone to an Arabian client. The profit Miss Taylor received
from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other
charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years
of insurance premiums on it.
这段的撒马瑞是:这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的"无名钻"的故事,基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆,Cartier得知后,幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家,然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来,这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名,人皆认为价值连城。事实是,多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付11年来的保险,交易税等其他乱七八糟费用,之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了~~~
全文萨马瑞就是:钻石值多少钱,能卖多少钱,完全只取决于买家愿意出多少钱,根本没有任何自身价值可言。
所以lz认为买钻石就是买个浪漫买个心情,绝对不是投资。
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 1:10:52编辑过]
学习了
钻石就是marketing做得好
这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。
Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
at what price?
不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧,大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
钻石就是marketing做得好
对呀。“钻石恒久远”,这个完全是create出来的,非常好的marketing. 其实钻石产量不低,但是De Beers
控制了绝大部分钻石卖高价。
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对呀。“钻石恒久远”,这个完全是create出来的,非常好的marketing. 其实钻石产量不低,但是De Beers 控制了绝大部分钻石卖高价。
现在什么不是marketing,多少名牌包连皮都不是,有些还是帆布,有人追捧,一样卖天价
奢侈品都一样,不仅是钻石.
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结果被忽悠的还觉得少了这个不行……
以下是引用angeliali在12/23/2011 1:45:00 AM的发言:
不光是钻石,名牌包也是一样,说保值是一相情愿。
是啊,什么1ct以上保值都是商家的噱头或者自我安慰的
钻戒就是个特殊饰品,自己喜欢,珍惜最重要
要讲价值,或者想保值买黄金,呵呵
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切割工匠都是垄断的,最好的工匠都是犹太人,大钻石都是他们手里切的,因为怕其他技艺不怎样的切坏了。你要没有认识这样的工匠,拿着钻石璞也没用啊。
太好了, 再也不梦想等有钱了买T家和C家的钻戒了
囧。我就是戴着假钻石啊,看着一模一样,而且由于折射率还是什么还有clarity好的缘故,比真的还闪。据说买人工钻的setting要选透光差点的,否则火彩太好了,看着不象真的。LOL。不过我不care这个,就是喜欢亮闪闪的石头嘛,买个喜欢的戴着玩,看着开心就好了。我的e-ring是sapphire的,bf要买钻石我不让。
假的还是不同的,我专门买过假的和真的比。不仔细看还是不明显。不过我觉得在石头上花那么多钱,真的不值得。
钻石就是marketing做得好
strongly re!!!!
换个角度,去买二手钻戒会不会很值啊?呵呵呵呵~~~200块买到5万的……
没人看啊。。。。。。。
以下是引用甜汤在12/23/2011 1:19:00 AM的发言:
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
你在ebay上买私人出售的也不放心啊。不像名牌包还能看出个真假门道来,钻石鉴定麻烦多了。
所以私人手上要出手的钻也只有去贱卖到dealer那儿了。
以下是引用海鲜在12/23/2011 9:25:00 PM的发言:
50000的钻石卖200? 有点扯了。 如果真的在T家标价是50000, 卖我2000我也要啊。
这个应该算是情理之中吧,咱们老百姓有点闲钱会买点黄金啥的,心里踏实,增值多少不说,应该不会贬值,好像没人买钻石留着升值吧。钻石这东西,好像是货款两清后,立马贬值啊。俺是土人一个,看着明晃晃的钻石觉着挺好看,看着假钻一样觉得好看,根本分不出来的说。
奢侈品,手表钻戒啊这些,从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
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从保值角度讲,Birkin现在是最保值的之一。状况好的,抢手的颜色,尺寸,二手可以卖到比零售价高的地步。
同感 从我知道birkin开始到现在 都涨了20%了。。。。。。我估计这辈子是没戏买得起了。。。。
买断了不让这种人工钻石面世。因为这种人工钻石一旦面世,1克拉左右的钻石全部不值钱了。
现在千万不要买有色彩钻,因为这种科技已经能够做到2-3克拉的完美彩钻(蓝色粉红色桔色黄色色什么的),彩钻的价格会崩溃得很快。无色钻的科技发展更慢一点,只能做到1克拉左右。
我咋觉得啥都不买最值了。。。。。科技总是进步的啊。。。。我决定把这些钱都变成食物吃到肚子里。。。。。
除了金子保值,银子都不保值,钻石更不保值了,不过钻石确实美丽阿,戴着高兴,何乐而不为呢。另外大家都说T家和C家overprice,如果论那点可怜的保值衡量的话,T家C家还是比那些其他中低端牌子保值得多了
我觉得T 和C虽然overprice 但是比普通的还是要好看多了 话说这种东西也就买个漂亮买个高兴 有钱的话还是比普通钻石带着好看多了
哈哈,我也一直觉得说这东西保值是胡扯。歪个楼问一下,总有人说买名牌包保值,我听着怎么也不靠谱呢
如果是肯定要买的东西 那么早买还是比晚买好 从这个角度上来说也算省钱了吧?如果是作为投资 那就绝对不划算了
刚查了查,说人工钻和天然的用设备还是检测的出的,波长是不一样滴
总的来说,喜欢买的买继续买,觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的
可是谁也不会随身携带个测量仪器来测波长啊。。。。好看的就行~~
卖不了,所以只能一颗永留传。。。。。。
哈哈哈!!!
钻石的价格都是artificially抬起来的。。当年还和lg讨论了这个问题。。 不过最重要的问题是很多钻石的来源has blood on it,所以要买钻石最好搞清楚来源,表支持无良商人
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以下是引用抹茶红豆包在1/28/2012 10:59:00 PM的发言:
更加坚定了我要求买点金条
保值本来就是浮云,我妈以前老是念叨说70年代末3千块钱就能买一院子房,拜托!!!30年前有几家人一下子拿得出3000块钱。要是真凑出3000多块钱,别的方面得多节约!!!人活着有啥意义。
人就一辈子,买了爱马仕的人也不是想着哪天要卖吧,趁着能享受的时候多享受,什么保值不保值的事,哪天死了娃能卖了发笔财就发比笔财,如果就卖个破铜烂铁的价,那就破铜烂铁呗。
最近lg想升级相机和镜头,一下子估计几千刀就出去了,游说我说,“你不知道,好镜头很保值”,哈哈,男人也这么自己骗自己。
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那嫩说我买点小古董列?
钻石就是marketing做得好
这段的撒马瑞是:有个老太要卖一个T家的10万钻戒,先去T家,T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石,然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要,最后老太只好自己留着了。
Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
那是TRADE UP,你买更大个的,同时把以前买的小的卖回T家。
你太较真了。。。。。真把这个当辩论了,还对不对的,我就是表达我一个看法和观点而已,你劈头盖脸就说不对,这个说话态度好难受啊。。。。你说对就是对,你说不对就是不对?你要这个态度,我就无法和你说话了。。。我们是要来争辩一个谁对谁错吗? 那是不是先要选出一个权威来当裁判呢?不然争来争去,对错谁说了算?
我没有说机器生产不会取代手工成为主流,我说的是机器生产不会取代手工,并不一定是主流才能赚钱,才能生存。。。。。相反地, 机器生产的技术越成熟,机器生产的成本就会越低,相对地,手工或者天然的成本就越高,所以单价就更会上走。。。。是哪句话看不懂吗。。。。真要命。。。
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太好了, 再也不梦想等有钱了买T家和C家的钻戒了
LOL
这年头买个吃好也不容易,不仅原料要organic,还要有个好厨师加工好,还有个好环境氛围吃好,哈哈
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这世界上还有什么东西会保值呢? 买钻石,人家人工钻出来了;买黄金,黄金价格被别人操控;买房子吧,哪一天就淹在水底下了;买名牌包吧,打死我也不会觉得一个用过的包会增值(除非名人)...看来看去,还是买点好吃点吃进肚子里比较实惠,满足了味蕾,满足了腹欲,色欲,还能活下去。
这年头买个吃好也不容易,不仅原料要organic,还要有个好厨师加工好,还有个好环境氛围吃好,哈哈