看到隔壁回帖里说可以原价卖回店里买新的，看的我觉得太可笑了。 事情是这样的，之前自己买钻戒的时候，我也曾很天真的认为钻石这种东西就像投资黄金一样，花再多也值，因为拥有了equity货币怎么浮动都可以保值。。。blahblahblah。。。。直到有一天搜了一下re－sell钻戒的问题，看到了eye－openning的一面，有一本书里面有一章叫＂Have you ever tried to sell a diamond＂，这是link： http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap20.htm
这是其中一段： Selling diamonds can also be particularly frustrating for individuals. One wealthy woman living in New York city decided to sell back a diamond ring that she had bought from Tiffany two years earlier for $100,000, and use the proceeds to buy a necklace of matched pearls that she fancied. She had read about the "diamond boom" in news magazines, and hoped that she might make a profit on the diamond. Instead, the sales executive with whom she dealt explained, with a touch of embarrassment, that Tiffany had "a strict policy against repurchasing diamonds." He assured her, however, that the diamond was extremely valuable and suggested another jewelry store. The woman went from one leading jeweler to another, trying to sell her diamond. One store offered her the opportunity to swap it for another jewel, and two other jewelers offered to accept the diamond "on consignment," and pay her a percentage of what they sold it for, but none of the half-dozen jewelers she visited that day offered her cash for her $100,000 diamond. She finally gave up and kept it.
另一段： Many of the elderly women who bring their Jewelry to Empire Diamonds and other buying services have been the recent victims of burglaries or muggings and fear further attempts. Thieves, however, have an even more difficult time selling diamonds than their victims. When suspicious-looking characters turn up at Empire Diamonds, for instance, they are asked to wait in the reception room, and the police are called in. In 1980, for example, a disheveled youth came into Empire with a bag full of jewelry that he called "family heirlooms." When Brand pointed out that a few pieces were imitations, the young man casually tossed them in the wastepaper basket. Braud buzzed for the police. When thieves bring diamonds to underworld fences, they usually get a pittance for them. In 1979, for example, New York City police recovered stolen diamonds with an insured value Of $50,000 that had been sold to a fence for only $200. According to the assistant district attorney that handled this particular case, the fence was unable to dispose of the diamonds on 47th Street, and was eventually turned in by one of the diamond dealers whom he had contacted.
另一段： While those who actually attempt to sell diamonds often experience disappointment at the low price they are offered, the stories circulated in the press by N. W. Ayer continue to suggest that diamonds are resold at enormous profits. Consider, the legend created around the so-called "Elizabeth Taylor" diamond. This pear-shaped diamond, which weighed 69.42 carats after it had been cut and polished, was the fifty-sixth largest diamond in the world, and one of the few large cut diamonds in private hands. Except for the fact that it was a diamond, it had little in common with the millions of small stones that are mass-marketed each year in engagement rings and other jewelry. When Harry Winston originally bought the diamond from De Beers, it weighed over 100 carats. Winston had it cut into a fifty-eight-faceted jewel, which he sold in 1967 to Harriet Annenberg Ames, the daughter of publisher Moses Annenberg, for $500,000. Mrs. Ames found it, however, extremely costly to maintain: the insurance premium just for keeping it in her safe was $30,000 a year. After keeping it for two years, she decided to resell it and brought it back to Harry Winston.
Winston advised Mrs. Ames that he could not buy it back for the price for which she had purchased it from him. She then called Ward Landrigan, the head of Parke-Bernet's jewelry department, and explained that because she did not want any publicity, the diamond should be auctioned without her family's name attached to it.
This caveat gave the publicist that Parke-Bernet retained for the auction the idea for a brilliant gambit. The huge diamond, which would appear on the cover of the catalogue, would be called "The No Name Diamond," and the buyer would have the right to re-christen it. In August of 1969, Ward Landrigan brought the diamond to Elizabeth Taylor's chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland, and assured her that it was the finest diamond then available on the market. She expressed interest in it, and shortly thereafter items were planted in gossip columns suggesting that Elizabeth Taylor planned to bid up to a million dollars for the No Name Diamond.
At that point, Robert H. Kenmore, whose conglomerate had just acquired Cartier in New York, saw the possibility of gaining considerable publicity for Cartier by buying the No Name Diamond, renaming it the Cartier Diamond and reselling it to Elizabeth Taylor. He preferred to pay a million dollars for it, so that the sale would be indelibly impressed on the public's mind as the most expensive diamond ever purchased. He arranged to borrow the million dollars from a bank, and took the $60,000 interest cost on the loan out of his conglomerate's public relations budget.
The auction was held on October 2 3, 1969, and after sixty seconds of excited bidding, the diamond was sold to Cartier for $1,050,000. Harriet Ames received from Parke-Bernet, after paying their commission and sales tax, $868,600, and Cartier received the diamond. Four days later, Elizabeth Taylor and her husband, Richard Burton, bought the diamond from Cartier for $1,100,000 (which meant that Cartier took a slight loss on the interest charge), and a few days later the diamond was transferred to Elizabeth Taylor's representative on an international airliner flying over the Mediterranean to avoid any further sales tax on the diamond.
Some ten years later, when she was married to John Warner, the United States senator from Virginia, Elizabeth Taylor decided to sell this well-publicized diamond. She announced that the minimum price was four million dollars, and to cover the insurance costs for showing it to prospective buyers, she further asked to be paid $2,000 for each viewing of the diamond. At this price, however, there were no buyers. Finally in 1980 she agreed to sell the diamond for a reported $2 million to a New York diamond dealer named Henry Lambert who, in turn, planned to sell the stone to an Arabian client. The profit Miss Taylor received from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years of insurance premiums on it. 这段的撒马瑞是：这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的＂无名钻＂的故事，基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆，Cartier得知后，幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家，然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来，这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名，人皆认为价值连城。事实是，多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付１１年来的保险，交易税等其他乱七八糟费用，之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了～～～ 全文萨马瑞就是：钻石值多少钱，能卖多少钱，完全只取决于买家愿意出多少钱，根本没有任何自身价值可言。
段的撒马瑞是：连强盗们抢来的钻石都卖不掉，结果不但卖不掉钻石还经常在等给钻石估价的地方被警察叔叔抓走。。。曾有个贼抢来的一个５万的钻石最后卖到２００块。。。
看来以后要找强盗买钻石拉？
........你以为现在是50年代？还手工切？
论保值还不如买黄金。
太好了, 再也不梦想等有钱了买T家和C家的钻戒了
从不觉的钻戒是保值的投资，还是黄金实惠
agree
t家c家好像都有个policy，如果你下一个钻戒还在她家买，而且double前一个的value，她们就会以原价的xx%买回原来那只，这个xx我忘记多少了，应该至少80％，那个楼的mm是不是这个意思？
这个要求就挺高了。
论保值还不如买黄金。
也同意这个，这个还算硬通货
看来钻石一颗就够了 不用再费心思找deal了 谢谢LZ灭草
卖不了，所以只能一颗永留传。。。。。。
haha~~~
卖不了，所以只能一颗永留传。。。。。。
haha
奢侈品，手表钻戒啊这些，从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
香奈儿的包都求之不得，只升的份。。。
论保值还不如买黄金。
以下是引用冰海美人鱼在12/23/2011 10:48:00 AM的发言：
早就有了，但是规定只能工业使用，每批次出的人工钻必须直接刻镭射标记
论保值还不如买黄金。
这个帖子是男人写的吧？
我不是男人啊。。。。。。。
是啊，什么1ct以上保值都是商家的噱头或者自我安慰的
钻戒就是个特殊饰品，自己喜欢，珍惜最重要
要讲价值，或者想保值买黄金，呵呵
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这段的撒马瑞是：有个老太要卖一个T家的１０万钻戒，先去T家，T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石，然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要，最后老太只好自己留着了。
Tiffany? They told me they would purchase the diamon ring they sold. At least 7 yrs ago they said that.
did they say the condition is that you have to buy a more expensive one?
换个角度，去买二手钻戒会不会很值啊？呵呵呵呵～～～200块买到5万的……
谁要是有那种卖给我啊～我要！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！有多少要多少～～～～～～～
最后切割当然是机器操作，但是怎么切法，切成什么形状，哪里开切，这些都是看切割设计的功力，跟机器无关。
以下是引用冰海美人鱼在12/23/2011 10:46:00 AM的发言：
........你以为现在是50年代？还手工切？
不是早有的那种，是最新的，没有人工标记，比真钻石还要完美，2002年左右才出现的新科技。De Beers一看到了2004年全买断了。
他买断了想干啥
现在千万不要买有色彩钻，因为这种科技已经能够做到2-3克拉的完美彩钻（蓝色粉红色桔色黄色色什么的），彩钻的价格会崩溃得很快。无色钻的科技发展更慢一点，只能做到1克拉左右。
以下是引用TravelinLt在12/23/2011 1:07:00 PM的发言：
他买断了想干啥
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买断了不让这种人工钻石面世。因为这种人工钻石一旦面世，1克拉左右的钻石全部不值钱了。
现在千万不要买有色彩钻，因为这种科技已经能够做到2-3克拉的完美彩钻（蓝色粉红色桔色黄色色什么的），彩钻的价格会崩溃得很快。无色钻的科技发展更慢一点，只能做到1克拉左右。
不是早有的那种，是最新的，没有人工标记，比真钻石还要完美，2002年左右才出现的新科技。De Beers一看到了2004年全买断了。
De Beers为什么没有垄断有色宝石和翡翠的市场？这几种宝石现在的市场前景不是也很看好吗？我觉得有色宝石估价更难，作假太多了，有些还挺难分辨，品质高的天然有色宝石不比同等级的钻石多啊。
还是金子保值呀，我04年买的1对24K金大号龙凤镯，很沉的，实打实的黄金，现在已经是涨了1.5倍了。。。。。。回国肯定能找到肯出钱的卖家。。。。。
买断了不让这种人工钻石面世。因为这种人工钻石一旦面世，1克拉左右的钻石全部不值钱了。
现在千万不要买有色彩钻，因为这种科技已经能够做到2-3克拉的完美彩钻（蓝色粉红色桔色黄色色什么的），彩钻的价格会崩溃得很快。无色钻的科技发展更慢一点，只能做到1克拉左右。
人工彩钻和天然的技术上能区分开来吗？
钻石就是marketing做得好
以下是引用MissSweety在12/23/2011 1:11:00 PM的发言：
你的回帖总是冒充专家
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人工彩钻和天然的技术上能区分开来吗？
你不如指出什么地方不对？
04年买的好象都涨两倍了
我的意思是原价的基础上再加1.5倍。因为是知名珠宝商的里面有名的师傅雕的，单论雕工还能增点值。。。
你还特喜欢缠住人说个不停，一般情况下不招惹，只是偶尔有实在看不下去你误导别人的时候，不想多费口舌了
哪里误导了你指出来说嘛。
太多了，指出来又被你缠上，没完没了的
你这个态度没有说服力，真理是越辩越明的，实在口才不好，可以引用资料嘛，技术问题尤其如此。
太多了，指出来又被你缠上，没完没了的
你这就有点无理取闹了
还有姐妹买LV“投资”的。
看到隔壁回帖里说可以原价卖回店里买新的，看的我觉得太可笑了。
事情是这样的，之前自己买钻戒的时候，我也曾很天真的认为钻石这种东西就像投资黄金一样，花再多也值，因为拥有了equity货币怎么浮动都可以保值。。。blahblahblah。。。。直到有一天搜了一下re－sell钻戒的问题，看到了eye－openning的一面，有一本书里面有一章叫＂Have you ever tried to sell a diamond＂，这是link：
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap20.htm
这是其中一段：
Selling diamonds can
also be particularly frustrating for individuals. One
wealthy woman living in New York city decided to sell
back a diamond ring that she had bought from Tiffany
two years earlier for $100,000, and use the proceeds
to buy a necklace of matched pearls that she fancied.
She had read about the "diamond boom" in news magazines,
and hoped that she might make a profit on the diamond.
Instead, the sales executive with whom she dealt explained,
with a touch of embarrassment, that Tiffany had "a strict
policy against repurchasing diamonds." He assured her,
however, that the diamond was extremely valuable and
suggested another jewelry store. The woman went from
one leading jeweler to another, trying to sell her diamond.
One store offered her the opportunity to swap it for
another jewel, and two other jewelers offered to accept
the diamond "on consignment," and pay her a percentage
of what they sold it for, but none of the half-dozen
jewelers she visited that day offered her cash for her
$100,000 diamond. She finally gave up and kept it.
这段的撒马瑞是：有个老太要卖一个T家的１０万钻戒，先去T家，T家明文规定不买回已卖出的钻石，然后跑遍了无数珠宝商没人要，最后老太只好自己留着了。
另一段：
Many of the elderly
women who bring their Jewelry to Empire Diamonds and
other buying services have been the recent victims of
burglaries or muggings and fear further attempts. Thieves,
however, have an even more difficult time selling diamonds
than their victims. When suspicious-looking characters
turn up at Empire Diamonds, for instance, they are asked
to wait in the reception room, and the police are called
in. In 1980, for example, a disheveled youth came into
Empire with a bag full of jewelry that he called "family
heirlooms." When Brand pointed out that a few pieces
were imitations, the young man casually tossed them
in the wastepaper basket. Braud buzzed for the police.
When thieves bring
diamonds to underworld fences, they usually get a pittance
for them. In 1979, for example, New York City police
recovered stolen diamonds with an insured value Of $50,000
that had been sold to a fence for only $200. According
to the assistant district attorney that handled this
particular case, the fence was unable to dispose of
the diamonds on 47th Street, and was eventually turned
in by one of the diamond dealers whom he had contacted.
这段的撒马瑞是：连强盗们抢来的钻石都卖不掉，结果不但卖不掉钻石还经常在等给钻石估价的地方被警察叔叔抓走。。。曾有个贼抢来的一个５万的钻石最后卖到２００块。。。
另一段：
While those who actually
attempt to sell diamonds often experience disappointment
at the low price they are offered, the stories circulated
in the press by N. W. Ayer continue to suggest that
diamonds are resold at enormous profits. Consider, the
legend created around the so-called "Elizabeth Taylor"
diamond. This pear-shaped diamond, which weighed 69.42
carats after it had been cut and polished, was the fifty-sixth
largest diamond in the world, and one of the few large
cut diamonds in private hands. Except for the fact that
it was a diamond, it had little in common with the millions
of small stones that are mass-marketed each year in
engagement rings and other jewelry. When Harry Winston
originally bought the diamond from De Beers, it weighed
over 100 carats. Winston had it cut into a fifty-eight-faceted
jewel, which he sold in 1967 to Harriet Annenberg Ames,
the daughter of publisher Moses Annenberg, for $500,000.
Mrs. Ames found it, however, extremely costly to maintain:
the insurance premium just for keeping it in her safe
was $30,000 a year. After keeping it for two years,
she decided to resell it and brought it back to Harry
Winston.
Winston advised Mrs.
Ames that he could not buy it back for the price for
which she had purchased it from him. She then called
Ward Landrigan, the head of Parke-Bernet's jewelry department,
and explained that because she did not want any publicity,
the diamond should be auctioned without her family's
name attached to it.
This caveat gave the
publicist that Parke-Bernet retained for the auction
the idea for a brilliant gambit. The huge diamond, which
would appear on the cover of the catalogue, would be
called "The No Name Diamond," and the buyer would have
the right to re-christen it. In August of 1969, Ward
Landrigan brought the diamond to Elizabeth Taylor's
chalet in Gstaad, Switzerland, and assured her that
it was the finest diamond then available on the market.
She expressed interest in it, and shortly thereafter
items were planted in gossip columns suggesting that
Elizabeth Taylor planned to bid up to a million dollars
for the No Name Diamond.
At that point, Robert
H. Kenmore, whose conglomerate had just acquired Cartier
in New York, saw the possibility of gaining considerable
publicity for Cartier by buying the No Name Diamond,
renaming it the Cartier Diamond and reselling it to
Elizabeth Taylor. He preferred to pay a million dollars
for it, so that the sale would be indelibly impressed
on the public's mind as the most expensive diamond ever
purchased. He arranged to borrow the million dollars
from a bank, and took the $60,000 interest cost on the
loan out of his conglomerate's public relations budget.
The auction was held
on October 2 3, 1969, and after sixty seconds of excited
bidding, the diamond was sold to Cartier for $1,050,000.
Harriet Ames received from Parke-Bernet, after paying
their commission and sales tax, $868,600, and Cartier
received the diamond. Four days later, Elizabeth Taylor
and her husband, Richard Burton, bought the diamond
from Cartier for $1,100,000 (which meant that Cartier
took a slight loss on the interest charge), and a few
days later the diamond was transferred to Elizabeth
Taylor's representative on an international airliner
flying over the Mediterranean to avoid any further sales
tax on the diamond.
Some ten years later,
when she was married to John Warner, the United States
senator from Virginia, Elizabeth Taylor decided to sell
this well-publicized diamond. She announced that the
minimum price was four million dollars, and to cover
the insurance costs for showing it to prospective buyers,
she further asked to be paid $2,000 for each viewing
of the diamond. At this price, however, there were no
buyers. Finally in 1980 she agreed to sell the diamond
for a reported $2 million to a New York diamond dealer
named Henry Lambert who, in turn, planned to sell the
stone to an Arabian client. The profit Miss Taylor received
from the transaction, after paying sales taxes and other
charges, was barely enough to cover the eleven years
of insurance premiums on it.
这段的撒马瑞是：这是整个那颗著名的伊丽莎白 泰勒的＂无名钻＂的故事，基本上之所以这颗钻石成名完全是炒作出来的。泰勒小姐的老公先买来这颗钻孝敬老婆，Cartier得知后，幕后和她商量把钻先买回来到C家，然后泰勒小姐再高调拍回。这样一来，这颗无名钻和C家一夜成名，人皆认为价值连城。事实是，多年以后泰勒小姐卖掉这颗钻石以后所得的所有钱刚刚够付１１年来的保险，交易税等其他乱七八糟费用，之前买钻石付的钱就打打水漂了～～～
全文萨马瑞就是：钻石值多少钱，能卖多少钱，完全只取决于买家愿意出多少钱，根本没有任何自身价值可言。
所以lz认为买钻石就是买个浪漫买个心情，绝对不是投资。
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/12/23 1:10:52编辑过]
I agree with you.
奢侈品，手表钻戒啊这些，从店里买出来当天就应该跌价差不多1半乐
保值都是浮云
文革期间我妈上交了组织好些家传的珠宝，据她说其中就有个大概6卡的鸽子蛋钻戒，她说是姥姥家传的，还有好些什么祖母绿，猫眼，蓝宝石，玉的就不在话下了。。。。唉。。。。可惜呀。。。。
6 卡的鸽子蛋世上仅存的不多啊。
除了金子保值，银子都不保值，钻石更不保值了，不过钻石确实美丽阿，戴着高兴，何乐而不为呢。另外大家都说T家和C家overprice,如果论那点可怜的保值衡量的话，T家C家还是比那些其他中低端牌子保值得多了
钻石为什么一定要买品牌的？很多人都买石头自己镶的呀。
你这个态度没有说服力，真理是越辩越明的，实在口才不好，可以引用资料嘛，技术问题尤其如此。
你这就有点无理取闹了
我不是男人啊。。。。。。。
哈哈，男人教育女人不要买钻石
我这么说是有原因的，不是这一次，她最先给我印象就是认为被日本殖民没什么大不了的，然后被大家轰过一段时间，之后出来总是各种专家语气
意识形态问题和珠宝鉴定的性质不一样，后者是纯技术性的，有客观标准，前者对辩论技巧和判断力要求高一些，你确实水平差一点，说不过她。
6 卡的鸽子蛋世上仅存的不多啊。
6卡的鸽子蛋还是保值的，这个的确比较稀缺。
要看当时的买入价，和通货膨胀率，保险和保管费用、失窃和丢失的风险等等，当然，再没有更稳定回报的投资途径下，算是有效投资手段之一。
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意识形态问题和珠宝鉴定的性质不一样，后者是纯技术性的，有客观标准，前者对辩论技巧和判断力要求高一些，你确实水平差一点，说不过她。
只有黄金白银保值，其他都是浮云。
黄金保值其实也是相对的，但是黄金很容易变现，流通性更高是真的。
不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧，大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
哈哈，我也一直觉得说这东西保值是胡扯。歪个楼问一下，总有人说买名牌包保值，我听着怎么也不靠谱呢
hermes 价格还是上升的
CHANEL也升
以下是引用manoe在12/23/2011 1:32:00 PM的发言：
要看当时的买入价，和通货膨胀率，保险和保管费用、失窃和丢失的风险等等，当然，再没有更稳定回报的投资途径下，算是有效投资手段之一。
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图闪亮，好看，虚荣，想敲诈bf一笔，这些都是买大钻戒的理由，唯独作为投资品保值不是。
RE!
钻石最主要的是算法，算法好的话一块原石切出卖家最高的价值
以下是引用xiaowuzhi在12/23/2011 12:20:00 PM的发言：
机器切应该也是人工操作的啊，这里头肯定是有讲究的。
不过一般买钻戒的不会抱着投资的心理吧，大家都希望买了以后不会再卖出了不是
以下是引用Charlesriver1在12/23/2011 1:07:00 PM的发言：
一块石头怎么切，能够maximize它的价值，非常讲究，因为最好的肯定是solitaire, 但不是每块石头都能做到，在石头形状与克拉与避开很大瑕疵与抛光最大化的选择里面怎么做，犹太人是这行的翘楚，同一块石头，他们切跟其他人切，价格会相差很远，因为只有他们久传的工艺才能做到石头价值最大化。
最后切割当然是机器操作，但是怎么切法，切成什么形状，哪里开切，这些都是看切割设计的功力，跟机器无关。
hermes 价格还是上升的
CHANEL也升
那是新包在升，二手包什么价钱阿？
那是新包在升，二手包什么价钱阿？
二手包比当初买的新包价格还贵
以下是引用faydevil在12/23/2011 1:44:00 PM的发言：
re楼上，数控机床么？话说钻石那么硬，得拿啥切啊？
估计是49年前买下的，De Beers开始垄断炒作钻石为珠宝之王是50年代的事，我外婆以前也有很大的鸽子蛋，我记得她说30年代左右中国的宝石行情里面，翡翠当然是最贵的，其次是红宝石，然后才是钻石，当年红宝蓝宝绿宝都没有人工合成的，价格比较接近大自然的本来供应。所以即使鸽子蛋大，当年的火钻行情相对于收入，比现在还是较低，加上又是6克拉，应该能够跑赢通胀。
翡翠那个时候也没有人工合成的，或者是人工的工艺很差，很容易分辨，现在彩色宝石其实大多数不是完全人工合成的，大部分是品质低的天然宝石人工处理后改善品相的，这种一般消费者很难分辨，所以彩色宝石的市场垮了，一般装饰作用的珠宝，有这种半人工宝石也够了，价格也很亲民。红宝石我是很喜欢的，其实纯天然又品质好的红宝石比钻石还难得，但是红宝石不如钻石闪，要非常好的设计和工艺才能显现她的美。大众珠宝市场和高端珠宝市场是两个概念，一般人买首饰应该就图个喜欢，保值就不要想了，实在要保值，还真是买金条来的实在。
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hermes 价格还是上升的
CHANEL也升
那是因为美元在跌。。。。。
我是说从那个时候注意到这个id,此后看到好几次技术讨论问题她喜欢冒充行家，而很多时候说的并不对，与意识形态问题完全无关，我是水平差，笨嘴饶舌的说不过她，这次钻石讨论那个人工钻石那块她说的太武断，人工钻石是不可能取代天然钻石的，算了，我一向嘴笨不擅长争吵，还是别扰了你们讨论的兴致
我觉得还是有很大的影响的，如果压根分布出来人工天然的区别，大伙就买个人工的得了。有钱人也不愿意买天然得了，因为人人都带一个跟你一样人工得，压根显不出你有钱了。
我觉得还是有很大的影响的，如果压根分布出来人工天然的区别，大伙就买个人工的得了。有钱人也不愿意买天然得了，因为人人都带一个跟你一样人工得，压根显不出你有钱了。
RE!
二手包比当初买的新包价格还贵
那得是品相非常好，基本没用过的。
那是因为美元在跌。。。。。
RE, you got it
我觉得还是有很大的影响的，如果压根分布出来人工天然的区别，大伙就买个人工的得了。有钱人也不愿意买天然得了，因为人人都带一个跟你一样人工得，压根显不出你有钱了。
对，对大众珠宝市场影响非常大，其实大部分珠宝商都是靠大众市场支撑，靠少数富豪消费支撑的是极少数。
以下是引用燕儿飞在12/23/2011 1:45:00 PM的发言：
二手包比当初买的新包价格还贵 以下是引用manoe在12/23/2011 1:48:00 PM的发言：
那得是品相非常好，基本没用过的。
那你还得算上通膨呢。当年的1刀不等于现在的1刀呀。
翡翠那个时候也没有人工合成的，或者是人工的工艺很差，很容易分辨，现在彩色宝石其实大多数不是完全人工合成的，大部分是品质低的天然宝石人工处理后改善品相的，这种一般消费者很难分辨，所以彩色宝石的市场垮了，一般装饰作用的珠宝，有这种半人工宝石也够了，价格也很亲民。红宝石我是很喜欢的，其实纯天然又品质好的红宝石比钻石还难得，但是红宝石不如钻石闪，要非常好的设计和工艺才能显现她的美。大众珠宝市场和高端珠宝市场是两个概念，一般人买首饰应该就图个喜欢，保值就不要想了，实在要保值，还真是买金条来的实在。
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mm很专业啊，是这一行的吗
总的来说，喜欢买的买继续买，觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的
刚查了查，说人工钻和天然的用设备还是检测的出的，波长是不一样滴
总的来说，喜欢买的买继续买，觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的
啊哈哈，所以要买有牌子的
mm很专业啊，是这一行的吗
不是，就是自己喜欢，买了一些专业书看看，跟专业人员比差远了。我没钱收藏珠宝的，就是过个眼瘾。
不是，就是自己喜欢，买了一些专业书看看，跟专业人员比差远了。我没钱收藏珠宝的，就是过个眼瘾。
嗯，我也只是喜欢石头的质感纹路，至于颜色是天然的还是染过的，不太在乎。
刚查了查，说人工钻和天然的用设备还是检测的出的，波长是不一样滴
总的来说，喜欢买的买继续买，觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的
以下是引用MissSweety在12/23/2011 2:04:00 PM的发言：
就算是波长相同，假钻石也不可能取代真钻石，因为假钻石是100%纯净的，而真钻石是不可能100%纯净的，买真钻石都追求clarity,但是100%的纯净度就太假了
以下是引用Queeniechan在12/23/2011 1:50:00 PM的发言：
那你还得算上通膨呢。当年的1刀不等于现在的1刀呀。
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就算是波长相同，假钻石也不可能取代真钻石，因为假钻石是100%纯净的，而真钻石是不可能100%纯净的，买真钻石都追求clarity,但是100%的纯净度就太假了
要存心作假，制造的时候故意加少量杂质就行了，现在是没有必要，因为人工的和天然的市场是分开的，还有一点，人工的钻石并不是没有成本的，成本在不大规模生产的情况下还不低。
刚查了查，说人工钻和天然的用设备还是检测的出的，波长是不一样滴
总的来说，喜欢买的买继续买，觉得无趣的大可去旅游
自求多福别碰上个ws的买个假的忽悠人倒是真的
以后估计人工也能加杂质。其实给我完美翡翠和完美钻石，想都不想会选翡翠。做传家之宝，贵价玉石更好。不过大部分人想都不用想了。
啊哈哈，所以要买有牌子的
不用买有牌子的，正规珠宝店买的，允许鉴定的，鉴定是假的可以退。
要存心作假，制造的时候故意加少量杂质就行了，现在是没有必要，因为人工的和天然的市场是分开的，还有一点，人工的钻石并不是没有成本的，成本在不大规模生产的情况下还不低。
嗯，我也只是喜欢石头的质感纹路，至于颜色是天然的还是染过的，不太在乎。
我在乎，但没钱在乎啊。
以后估计人工也能加杂质。其实给我完美翡翠和完美钻石，想都不想会选翡翠。做传家之宝，贵价玉石更好。不过大部分人想都不用想了。
懂得鉴赏是一种乐趣，不一定非要占有。
钻石就是marketing做得好