No company is taking care of their employees at current world. We have been gone through rounds of rounds of layoff, reorg. Then finally, the company decided not to pay severance package so they can CUT COST. Now everyone is living in hell - the so called leadership purposely make everyone uncomfortable, disaster, so employee will have to leave; or they will MAP you a role you know it is not your right fit, then you will get low-performance and forced out. And all the cause is there are some cheaper incompetent outsourcing people there to replace us.
非常同情,他的家庭太惨了。浙大毕业,到美国念一个course Master,真不一定“非常优秀”(鄙人有不算太小的一手样本)。眼高手低+社会阅历浅+从小家庭学校汉式成功学灌输,不出精神状况都难。呆不了美国就是the end of the world?
非常钦佩视频里这个勇敢发声的东亚人,无论谁都不可以被上司恶意玩弄,如果指控属实的话。
0:30/9:51
... The more I looked into this, the more it became clear to me that people need
to know the story. We need to understand what happened. And FB management, HR,
they are not covering this properly. In fact, rumors are that they are trying to
hide this and not even admit that this is a suicide. They are simply saying that
an employee passed away and that if you need help you should go get some help,
get some consuling. That's about all they are doing now.
... as well as myself that the way he chose to die he tried to send a message
out and FB upper management they are completely ignoring that and they are
sweeping it under the rug.
Anytime sth like this happens, executives will be doing everything they can to
make you forget about it. Maybe they will have a TownHall Meeting in which they
answer a few questions, tell you to get some consuling, call some crisis
numbers, and sweep everything under the rug and in two week they hope you forget
about this whole thing and they won't have to change a thing. Just probably
what's going to happen.
Let me tell you though the details I know about this case. I don't know Qin
personally. I'm still piecing together parts of the story. But the allegation
appears pretty serious which is why I think we need a full investigation. As I
understand it, he was working in the advertising group, which is already a
high-stress group, you know. Any smart technical issue, it can cause millions of
dollars of revenue loss. Now his performance rating was starting to suffer. And
if you are not performing well for multiple quarters, then you are put on the
PIP plan, performance improvement plan, which is essentially the path to you
getting fired.
According to a report, so many people in his team burnt out of stress and
starting to leave.
4:00/9:51
... and the management would squeeze every blood out of ICs to hit PSC goals.
There have been times I wanted to kill myself and were reading our death
benefits that my wife will get if I die at work."
So apparently, Qin was not alone in feeling that high stress environment. The
final straw came in when there was a SEV which is a severe site event,
essentially like a crash where production servers go down or something due to
some technical error and it was assigned to Qin, the SEV review, and apparently
he tried to delay the process, push that review back but internal script
prohibited that and blocked that process. So he was forced to do this and what's
telling was that just an hour before the SEV review, he committed the suicide.
He jumped.
And from this you can kind of paint a picture of the amount of stress he may
have been under: the REV review, the internal transfer being blocked,
performance rating meant that he would be fired soon, not to mention he was also
on an H1B visa. So his ability to remain in the US was also seriously at risk
here. Within 60 days of being let-go he would have to have another visa sponsor
or he would have to return back to China.
Some of you may be wondering with a background like that couldn't he just go get
another job? The thing is, maybe he was mentally ill in some capacity.
Depression is not logical. It is an impulse decision and, you know, I've been
there myself. I have moments too when I've been very depressed. Your heart sinks
your eyelids just want to close. And you know, you take a look at a ledge, a
balcony and you just think "Oh yeah. That's a quick way to end it."
I would encourage any of you who are feelign like this to get some help. They
have a suicide hotline which you can call. But I hope we can honor Qin's death
by making sure that it's not in vain. How sad would it be if in two weeks, two
months, or two years from now, this happen again? Over and over again, and we
just learn nothing.
You know the way he decided to die, I think he tried to make a statement in
such a public fashion. It seems that facebook leadership has simply muted it,
silenced it. They just told people due to privacy concerns and respect for the
family, do not talk about it. And essentially every facebook employee is
now silenced from this censure. Many people don't feel safe talking about this
and it's clear that so many people in that company still feel that culture is
toxic and there is a high degree of stress.
In a poll of how many employees are stressed out, 73% said so. Some employees
said they never had depression before but here they had it.
...
which largely reflect my experience as well.
You know the scary thing about this? Likely nothing is about to change.
HR@facebook they are going to deflect responsibility. They are going just to
blame this on mental illness. They are going to say: Hey if you need help, go to
talk to some consuler. They are going to have a townhall meeting in which they
answer some Q&A BS questions. I know how it goes. They'll come in and say "give
us your toughest questions. Ask us whatever you want." You ask some questions,
they just deflect it. They answer them all. They say goodbye and that's it. You
know what I like to see is a SEV review on the SEV review that ended Qin's life.
You know what I would like to see is a SEV review on the SEV review that ended
Qin's life. I would like to see a full post-mortum write-up by the direct
manager or the director, about exactly what happened everything detailing up
till the event why it happened, how much damage is done, and what will be done
to prevent this from happening again. And people need to be held responsible
here. There should be a complete criminal investigation opened up here into
workplace bullying. And for the people who worked with Qin and his manager, I
think they should seriously review their processes and think about the
environment they set up for their employees.
Now, I want to give you some real advice here. These companies, they can and
will just drive you into the ground. They will milk you for every ounce of blood
that they can get. We can sit here whine about it and demand better treatment
all day long but they may or may not listen. I would recommend you watch out for
yourself for your best interest. No company is worth dying for. No company is
your family. If you feel the environment is getting too toxic or stressful,
consider taking a vacation, take a break, or start looking into switching
companies ...
文学城综合报道,上周四,一名在Facebook全职工作的华人在facebook总部跳楼自杀,年仅38岁,让人痛心和惋惜。
此后的一周时间里,网上流传一则前Google /前Facebook TechLead揭露了最近Facebook员工的自杀故事和内部细节的视频,作者在视频中声明:
我本来不打算讲这个故事,但是员工要求我这样做,因为他们被领导层“消音”了,并担心职业报复。 我在这里做这个视频的目的不是指责或过度猜测,而是以要求答案的方式提出问题-为了陈勤的朋友,家人和技术人员。 请分享此视频,以帮助提高认识,并向Facebook施加压力,要求其正确解决这个问题。
案发时间:Sep. 19, 2019 11:30分 ,911接到电话
地点:100 block of Jefferson Drive, the City of Menlo Park
事件经过,19日,本周四11点30分左右,脸书硅谷总部,华人员工从四楼坠地死亡,姓名陈勤(Qin Chen)译音。
死者跳楼的地点,是脸书总部的杰佛逊街(Jefferson Dr.)162号的“MPK 27”大楼。
据悉死者38岁,是一在脸书工作的全职员工,来自中国,1999级浙江大学毕业生,南加大硕士。
据悉陈勤,只写了花两年,在USC读了个CS硕士(5 EE课,5 CS 课,然后5 个 CS project). 毕业后开始两年一跳,直到到了facebook,在Facebook呆了1年8个月,非常聪明和优秀。
警方表示,事发19日上午11时30分,警方在接到电话抵达现场时,死者已经没有了反应,送到医院后证实已经死亡。
警方初步调杳显示,死者是自杀,没有任何证据显示,是他杀;关于这方面,警方和法医都没有进一步消息。
法医也还没有说,真正死因是什么。
也有传闻与上司不合,让其调离其工作组,总之无论如何都不是轻生的理由。
去年6月17日,也曾发生了一名华人因被辞退跳楼事件,位于美国圣地亚哥的高通公司(Qualcomm)总部发生员工跳楼事件。
死者华裔工程师大卫·吴(David Wu)从总部办公楼六楼跳下,当场死亡。
大卫·吴领英资料显示,他毕业于清华大学,后到多伦多大学攻读博士,2008年进入高通,担任基带集成(Modem Integration)部门的全职工程师。
但在2015年9月,高通因投资人施压而宣布大规模裁员15%(超过4500名员工),削减14亿美元开支。
大卫·吴当时因此失业。
网友表示留着青山在,不怕没柴烧。
在海外生活压力大,好好活着才是最重要的,把痛苦留给家人是一种懦弱的表现。